Did Kendrick Lamar Diss Drake Or Papoose?

The biggest piece of news in the hip-hop world today came with the leak of a 15-second clip—since removed—from Kendrick Lamar’s verse on the TDE section of the BET Cyphers, where K.Dot goes after a “sensitive” rapper and kicks it off by saying “nothing’s been the same since they dropped ‘Control,’” a clear reference to Drake’s recent album title Nothing Was The Same. The hip-hop world immediately and collectively ran with it, claiming Kendrick was going at Drake for the second time, after name-checking Drake alongside a whole host of their peers on Big Sean’s “Control” from a few months ago.

But within the last hour, another conspiracy theory has emerged: Kendrick was going after Papoose, who was one of the first to release a response to Kendrick after the verse dropped, taking particular exception to his “King of New York” claim. In the weeks since the verse dropped, Papoose has gone on a diss-track spree of sorts, going after Big Sean, Drake and Kanye West, to name a few, then going after Sean again in another track a few weeks later after Sean said he didn’t know who Papoose was.

So let’s break down this theory. Pap’s initial “Control” response, released the same week as the original, included the lines, “Tell Kendrick and TDE they need to lay off the PCP/ Far from the king, this is the city of BDP/ You’ll never be a real West Coast artist like Eazy-E/ You fucking joke, we laughing at you like hehehe.” Toward the end, he adds in the line, ”Strip him to his socks, I bet you he got a pussy/ My bullets hit ‘em dead in his cooty, come out his booty.” That set the stage for a real battle, as Pap went hard and didn’t back down.

The ensuing weeks played out more in the press, with Papoose following up his verse with an interview with XXL, in which he defended his city and laid claim to the title of King of New York, calling Kendrick disrespectful in the process. Kendrick was then forced to acknowledge the variety of responses that came his way in an interview with Hot 97, and dismissed Pap’s as “comical.” Papoose, as you’d expect, didn’t take kindly to that at all, following it up with a tweet quoting his own response and telling Kendrick that the joke was on him.

Okay, with that out of the way, back to the BET freestyle. The short clip of K.Dot’s cypher verse continues, “…And tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes/ Haha joke’s on you, high five…I’m bulletproof/ Your shit never penetrates/ Pin the tail on the donkey, boy you been a fake.” Looking at the verses side by side, it’s hard to deny that Kendrick was refuting both the first and last part of Pap’s response verse, flipping the laughter and calling himself bulletproof. Then, of course, when you add in the fact that the word “papoose” is also a type of pajama, it looks a lot like he was aiming his assault toward Pap rather than Drake.

The two have a history, after all; this whole thing stems back from Kendrick’s performance at Summer Jam in June in New York City, when Papoose confused everybody by hopping on stage after Kendrick’s set and performing “Get At Me” off Nacirema Dream. That incident sparked a heated exchanged on Hot 97, with Papoose regaining a footing in the hip-hop mainstream.

Then again, there’s another wrinkle here, which is that Kendrick is clearly aiming for the crown, and Drake is the one standing at the top of the charts and dangling it right in front of him. The rumors swirling around the TDE cypher were that K.Dot’s verse was 4 minutes out of the 10-minute segment, and that it had all the makings and feel of “Control Part II.” Drake has been throwing some subtle shade Kendrick’s way in recent interviews, saying he doesn’t feel threatened by anyone and that nobody is still talking about the “Control” verse.

Well, they are now.

Let’s face it: if Kendrick was going after Drake, he could have gone a lot harder and really forced Drizzy into a response. And if he was going after Pap, I mean, what’s the point in going after somebody who has less shine than you? Look what it did for Meek Mill when he went after Cassidy—it put Cassidy back in the headlines, and that was about it. But let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves—the BET Hip-Hop Awards don’t air until October 15, and if the company is smart they’re keeping the rest of that cypher under lock and key because they know everybody is focused on what else Kendrick has to say. Maybe K.Dot did go after Drake, but that that particular segment that came out wasn’t the piece where he did. Maybe somebody purposely leaked that segment, knowing that the “nothing’s been the same” line would immediately point the spotlight at Drizzy. And maybe he goes all the way back in and eviscerates everybody on the planet, taking his newfound cocky, heel persona and running with it until the bitter end. But until we see the full verse, the video—or the memory of the video, since it’s been scrubbed from YouTube—a slew of conspiracy theories will have to tide everyone over.

One thing is definitely for sure—Kendrick is keeping things interesting. And there’s definitely nothing wrong with that. —Dan Rys (@danrys)

H/T LowKey

Update (10/4, 5:09 pm): Papoose has responded to Kendrick Lamar’s verse, saying that Kendrick will “never be able to shine my shoes, lyrically,” and asserting that he will definitely respond with a new track. On K.Dot’s diss, Pap said it was “comical” and that “[BET] should have brought me there if they wanted a real MC on the microphone.” Check the full response here.

  • TRUTH

    I dont think he would go after Drizzy.

    • therealness101

      Why?

  • Blink

    Drake went at him in The Language, listen to it, he gotta be talking about K.Dot

  • Dorian Frsh

    Uh Oh… Its the EMOTIONALS! VV

  • BangBang

    im pretty sure he went at pap

  • rtrill

    Fact: Nothing has been the same since the Control verse.

    Fact: Papoose took the diss the most personal, aka sensative rapper

    Fact: Papoose says “You a fuking joke, we laugh at you like hee hee hee.

    Fact: Kendrick responds, “ha ha jokes on you”

    Fact: Papoose says “My bullets hit em’ dead in his cooty come out his booty”

    Fact: Kendrick responds, “I’m bullet proof, ya shits will never penetrate”

    Fact: they actually sell Papoose pajamas, google it

    • Craig

      Papoose is also a word that means child

    • Javier Gonzalez

      I’m glad you pointed that out. It really looks like it was a papoose diss. But the first part about nothin being the same did look like it was directed at Drake.

      • Rad Vids

        I think it was more of a reference than a diss but idk

    • Phillis G Spencer,

      my Aunty Alice just got a year 2012 Nissan Cube Wagon just by working online at home… the original source W­­­W­­­W.F­­­B­­­3­­­9.C­­O­­M

    • nn

      it wasn’t aimed at that old ugly nigga. What will Kendrick earn from dissing papoose? What the fuck is Papoose pajamas? Drake got sensitive about the song on interviews, so I guess its Drake.

    • guest222

      there are no Papoose pajamas…

  • A-T

    It’s still on worldstar you fools. Haha also, that pajama line could’ve been referring to Drake jumping on the ‘Versace’ remix. “Sensitive rapper”? That’s Drake to a T. Who says he didn’t throw jabs at both. “Joke’s on you” line Obviously is directed at Papoose. I won’t even get into the high five shit

  • JuJu

    pap

  • Crossword

    Who the hell is Papoose?

    • LeBongFlames

      chill b, papoose might diss you now..lol

      • Dyrmakr

        HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • trio

    Kendrick Lamar – where’s your last name rap bastard?
    You got two first names, your mama was ass backwards
    ………
    You gassed up, you thought you could just creep upon
    The MTV interview that TI was speaking on
    You tried to hug her, she pushed off like ”keep your arm”
    I’ve seen that footage when you got curved by Nia Long
    Good kid, mad city – you know nothing about the trap
    On your album cover you sat on another man’s lap

    HAHAHA KENDRICK WAS HURT THAT SHIT WAS HARD PEOPLE

    • realnixxa

      Let’s be honest tho, Papoose was trying to hard to be personal on a diss for a little ass reason (especially for publicity). And the “sat on another man’s lap” thing, if you’r really tryin to come at somebody on some gay shit when a nigga is like 2, then you’r tryin to hard.

    • therealness101

      Wow! you sound real hurt man! Did he personally do something to you, because you sound real emotional right about now. lol.

    • nn

      No, It wasn’t. Lamar is not his last name and who told bucket tooth Pap there are so so so names meant for surnames. What is biggy’s last name? That cootie coming out ur booty line was the corniest thing I ever heard plus thee hee hee her. Y’all realize this guy is almost 40 and has one wack album which magazines didn’t review and sold 3,000 records total.

  • Lucas Kane

    Bacon & Pancakesss

    ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v7sn4lI4lxQ

  • Lance

    yall could front like pap isnt and hasnt been extra nice

    if it was “cool” to like him more people would but dont front on his bars

    kendrick dissed both of them , i wish drake would respond

  • AreYouSerious

    i don’t see what’s the point in dissing drake even. it’s like adding insult to injury. it’s like stealing candy from a newborn. you would be dissing something that already is a joke.

  • Trill As Jojo

    Kendricks cypher verse…. wasn’t to Drake

    Fact: Nothing has been the same since the Control verse.
    Fact: Papoose took the diss the most personal, aka sensitive rapper
    Fact: Papoose says “You a fuking joke, we laugh at you like hee hee hee.
    Fact: Kendrick responds, “ha ha jokes on you”
    Fact: Papoose says “My bullets hit em’ dead in his cooty come out his booty”
    Fact: Kendrick responds, “I’m bullet proof, ya shits will never penetrate”
    Fact: they actually sell Papoose pajamas, google it ..
    I think this diss is directed at Papoose.

    SECOND The language was dropped before Kendricks control verse .

  • http://bit.ly/9bwxpc @zigzagswag

    fuck papoose tell him to sell a million cds

  • Inquiring2mind

    Kendrick going at Drake? What’s the point of going at somebody who’s relatively nice? Face it, Papoose and Cassidy got niggas talking because the shit they spitting is obviously striking enough to get a reaction from the masses. RECORD SALES DO NOT EQUAL DOPENESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Evan Hoffman

    haha, who is this dude, he has no room to diss anyone when he raps like that

  • cal973

    hammer and vanilla ice sold millions of records. so i guess that made them doper than MC’S of their era. SMH

  • Tidus

    Two birds. One stone.

  • JayKraft

    I think its a a way for Kendrick to diss both artists at once thus showing how unoriginal they are because they can both fit in the same box

  • Brian S.

    I think dude’s intelligent enough to kill a couple birds with one stone – first the Drake reference, then the shots at Papoose.

  • Papoose

    It was a clear diss at Papoose. Who ever wrote this article is embarrassing. It bewilders me people think he’s going after Drake. Kendrick said “Nothing’s been the same since they dropped Control.” It’s a common phrase and coincidentally sounds similar to Drake’s album title. A true statement as the entire Control verse offended a lot of NYC rappers because they misinterpreted that song as a diss when even Kendrick said it wasn’t meant to be that way. So it follows that Kendrick in the BET cypher would continue after the previous line to talk about those who responded to his Control verse. Drake did not respond to Control and was only one guy on a list of rappers that Kendrick called out. Papoose was the first one to respond and was the most personal when it came to his lyrics. It’s a terrible song filled with corny punchlines the most obvious one being “We laugh at you like He-He-He” …Now going back to Kendrick’s BET cypher verse he says “Ha-Ha jokes on you…” clearly mocking Pap’s line. He then give a high five to Schoolboy Q and says “I’m bulletproof…” Lol you really think he would say ‘I’m bulletproof’ to Drake? Especially when Pap says he would shoot him in that verse>. Kendrick then says “Tuck the sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes”. Papoose is literally a brand of Pajama clothes. Look it up. And Pap is obviously sensitive because of how he responded to Control like a whiny baby. Who ever wrote this article needs to kill themselves now…In the words of Nas ” The world could use one less man” Or probably woman in this case…This is a prime example of people falling victim to drama. Because Drake is at the top of the rap game and makes a ton of money and is on the radio blah blah blah so it’s a lot less interesting for Kendrick just to be throwing a couple lines at Pap which is what he clearly did. There’s literally not one thing that points to it being at Drake. He was one guy on a list. People just listen to stupid radio hosts and magazines without forming their own opinion..I find it hilarious cus in this case I thought everyone knew it was at Pap and I just recently learned there was some dumb conspiracy that it was at Drake. Do you fools even listen to music or just skim through it?