If there’s a lot of anything these days, it’s new rappers. XXL‘s The Break podcast is for those aspiring MCs who need a little help getting on. This is the place to hear valuable info on how to make it in hip-hop from some of the biggest and most experienced names in the game. Hosted by XXL‘s Vanessa Satten and Miranda J., The Break podcast is an essential tool for artists willing to listen and learn. XXL‘s The Break: Where New Artists Come First.

In episode 10, we have the VP of Marketing at Def Jam Records, Rob Caiaffa, the label's signee Logic and one of the best present day example of a truly independent rapper, Lil Dicky. Here they explain what it means to be signed to a major label as a new artist or how to go about it yourself while on the independent tip, plus the pros and cons of each avenue.

Listen to the latest episodes of XXL’s new sports podcast, Ante Up, here. Watch the ninth episode of The Break below.