Eminem Accused of Assaulting Man in Detroit Strip Club

eminem.jpgA Detroit man identified only as “Miad J.” is accusing Eminem of assaulting him at the Cheetah Strip Club on the city’s notorious 8 Mile Road early Thursday morning (July 13), according to local station WXYZ. The man says that he was using the restroom at the same time as Eminem, when another man came in and started speaking to the rapper. According to Miad, when one of the rapper’s bodyguards told the man to be quiet, he spoke up in the his defense. As soon as Eminem finished using the urinal, he swung at Miad “4 or 5 times.” “I wasn’t even expecting it, I was just minding my own business, taking a leak,” Miad is quoted as saying. Detroit Police are seeking Eminem to question him about the incident. No one from the Cheetah club’s staff or Eminem’s camp cared to comment, according to the WXYZ story. The station also reports that a witness claims to have seen Detroit rapper Trick Trick brandishing a firearm outside the club.

  • Killa Cam

    Looks like another lawsuit for Em.

  • talkofthetdot

    I said welcome to Detroit city……

  • http://myspace.com JOSH Bonilla

    Hopefully this is mentioned in his next album which it probly will be..

  • RAMMY

    Don’t fuck with EM.

  • http://www.myspace.com/br1anke11y Brian

    Hopefully all of this negative shit happening in Em’s life will resilt into another classic album.

  • Che

    ^Hopefully all of this negative shit happening in Em’s life will resilt into another classic album -You’re a maggot.

  • jojochicago

    Mind ya buiness and not get swung on or stop looking at his D*CK u gay Fuk!

  • blackman

    Motherfuckers need to mind their fucking business.Why would a grown man try and talk to a person he don’t know while taking a piss.Also why would this clown want to get involved if he didn’t want a law suit.Can’t a nigga go to the strip club an look at some pussy in privacy. Miad should have went to the strip club with Game so he could see some dick.lol

  • d

    welcome to Detroit

    r.i.p. proof

  • dshhsh gdgde

    always blamin the white man

  • http://XXLmag.com westside money

    See dont strap with my favorite rapper or you’ll get knocked the crap out.He may be white but Em can fight.

  • emmic

    GO EM, next time beat the shit out of him!!

  • freeagent

    this one is so crazy that I don’t have any comments

  • breezy

    Man I’m from the D. I don’t think shit happened like that. Just another broke ass nigga trying to get some money. Although I do think that the trick trick part is true. Them wonder boyz are wild. Ask Trick Daddy

  • INTERSCOPE JACKSON

    dont fuck with Em, or you get beat up like a ho mayn
    Like blackman said Miad J should have went to the strip club with Gayme so he could see some dick. lol
    muhahahahahaa

  • http://yahoo.com throwback

    haha i beat dis niggaz ass just think wut he do 2 ja rule or benzinhoe

  • LOL

    Eminem Accused of Assaulting Man at Strip Club
    By Kimberly Craig
    Web produced by Seth Myers
    July 13, 2006

    A man named Miad J. says he was punched in the face by rapper Eminem early Thursday. He says he was hit 4 or 5 times while using the men’s room at a local strip club.

    Witnesses say Eminem was at the Cheetah’s strip club on 8 Mile Road in Detroit Wednesday night, accompanied by an entourage.

    Miad J. spoke to 7 Action News Thursday afternoon and said he was hit by the celebrity rapper at about 1 a.m. Thursday.

    Miad says he was in the men’s room, using a urinal next to Eminem, when another man entered the men’s room and started to talk to the rapper.

    He says one of Eminem’s bodyguards told the man to be quiet. Miad says he then asked the bodyguard to ease up on the star struck man in the restroom.

    “Eminem got done and boom,” Miad recounts. “He started swinging.”

    “I wasn’t even expecting it,” Miad said Thursday. “I was just minding my own business, taking a leak.”

    Detroit police would like to hear Eminem’s side of the story and then they say they will present their case to the prosecutor’s office for possible charges.

    No one from Eminem’s camp or from Cheetah’s strip club would comment on the alleged incident Thursday evening.

    Miad insists it was Eminem who hit him and left him with a knot on the side of his face.

    After he was punched, Miad says Eminem left the club and Cheetah’s bouncers threw the rapper’s bodyguards out of the club.

    As one of the vehicles in Eminem’s entourage was pulling out from the club, witnesses tell police the rapper known as Trick Trick pulled out a gun. While Trick Trick did not point it at anyone, witnesses outside the club did see the weapon.

  • Kyle

    isn’t this shit jacked straight out of “hustle and flow”? when luda got ethered and pissed on that fool’s demo tape?

  • robbie

    m&m is lame. what’s he doin’ takin’ his bodyguard to the bathroom with him in the first place? i thought he sits down to pee anyways.

  • 184th Boy

    4 KYLE:
    Yeah, but its backwards. I wouldnt b surprised if Miad J waz actually another disguise of Michael Jackson.

  • http://MINDSTATELA HELTAH SIN SAY

    “IM THANKFUL FOR EVERY FAN THAT I GET BUT I CANT TAKE SHIT IN THE BATHROOM WITH OUT SOMEONE STANDING BY IT”

    ” I DONT CARE WHO WHO WAS THERE AND JUST SAW ME JUST JAW YOU GO CALL YOU A LAWYER FILE YOU A LAW SUIT”

    LIFE IMITATING ART OR ART IMITATING LIFE?

    THATS MY BOY EM CANT LEAVE RAP HELLO THE GAME NEEDS YOU.

  • 3_THIRTEEN

    He shouldv’e shot his ass….well maybe not. Em aint touch that nigga. Sounds like the guy is Chaldean or Arabic….They think they are actually black. U have to come to Detroit to c the shit for urself. this nigga name should’ve been Dee
    Jay, Em’s body guards probably “Whomped that trick”.lol

  • H-Man

    Alot of dis goin on these dayz. Guy waz probably tryin to cop a peak at his …. Guess I should stop grabbin my unit. Attracts wrong kind of people… 4 dudes got knocked da fuck out. Im wit Jackson here, whats wit peoples obsession wit his cack. Must have mistaken him 4 da game. lolol

  • Will T. Bagyou

    INTERSCOPE JACKSON Says:

    July 14th, 2006 at 1:31 am
    dont fuck with Em, or you get beat up like a ho mayn
    Like blackman said Miad J should have went to the strip club with Gayme so he could see some dick.
    ^^thats true or he could have stayed home and watched gay ass 50 snitches cock fighting movie or lloyd banks gay porn like you do faggot.

  • bb

    i dont care about the lil shit that happend in the bathroom ….dint em learn from his boy proof thats how shit happens

  • Reed Dot Dollaz

    Em and Kim’s marriage then divorce, Proofs death, numerous lawsuits, Expect Em 2 have another diamond album

  • Da Yung Wun

    Funny shit dude juss tryna get at EM so he can get some spotlight…das sum bullshit but funni tho

  • http://Roadee2009AOL.com 50 Cent

    HOLD UP EM … U ALREADY KNOW YALL DO NE THING 4 SUM PUSSY ALL EM ANTED 2 DOO WAS BUST A NIGGA HEAD IN 4 SUM. KEEP IT GANGSTA EM. SH SH SH SH … SHADY … AFTERMATH GGGG…GUNIT!

  • http://UG-RS.com Tyler

    Fuck Em man. . Dat nigga is a herb yo. Dats why his wife be playin him like a little bitch. Peep the heat at:
    http://www.myspace.com/marcusorealiusmusic
    http://www.myspace.com/marcmaysrockandrollthug

  • Jersey Boy

    THATS WACK EM DONT PAY EM NOTHING

  • baldyz

    regardless of who it is, you need to put your hands up and fight back

  • jhova1120

    what really bothers me is that people with such a high celeberity stills hang out in the hood. they should learn from the proof situation that once you blown up you can’t hang out the hood any longer. it’s a sad truth but it is the truth. these rappers are more accessible to the tuanting of others. Then being who they are and the bravado that they carry dose not allow them to just walk away. the sad thing is that these indiviual that may actually start the trouble have nothing to lose and every to gain. where as these artist catch case for their inabiliy to just walk away. so if em dose in fact catch a case it should show to just get back to rap and to rap the same way he used and stay out of trouble

  • Dipset

    Yo “tyler” fuck you homie!!! dissing em cuz he’s like the most succesfull artist ever and your still trying to get people to listen to your songs on myspace… we should boycott your ass for that comment pussy!!!… eat a dick and die mother fucker!!! hahaha

  • http://ww.xxlmag.com Chi-Town Representor

    All dis negative shit happening 2 EM may have a positive effect on his next album and he can redeem himself from his Encore bullshit.ALot of events have occurred in EM’s life. He gonna talk about dis in his next album.Now I cant wait until Em drops his next album. I just hope son has his shit together so we wont witness an encore part 2

  • Rascar

    who eva said “dontmess with Em” is a cock sucka…do u know Em? Em is a pussyhole..he had how many bodyguards n swung for the dude…he cudna dun dat if the dude had his crew n he was on his lonley but he took advantage of the vice versa n did it. his friend died. so? he dont kno if this otha dude kno his pain, we all lost someone dear. n proof was a killer n e ways. n who eva sed blame the white man, fuck you. dont care if u was jokin, go suck yo mutha. n whoeva said “another classic album” was gunna come out of this NEEDS to come to the realization that there was neva a classic before. LMAO..none of his albums EXCEPT INFINITE is classic. learn dat..

    dats all, me-outtie. 1′.

  • pena capital

    :::louder than xplosions wrecking trains down in bombay
    :::like bombbeats from dre rockin clubs back in tha day
    :::not here to stay i pray my time be short to pay
    :::swallow mc’s like cray fish sharky eyes are grey
    :::hollow be my bones years from now found in clay
    :::inscriptions say reborned today,resurected never go away!!!!
    :::rejected from tha heavens where the little gods play
    :::dropped down to earth where 5 billion demons lay

  • qwerty

    that dude should just kept his mouth shut.. he got what was commin to him, he couldnt see that.. fuck him

  • Makavelli

    I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD YOU GO TO A CLUB WHEN YOU ARE A MEGA SUPERSTAR. REGARDLESS WHAT ANYBODY SAY YOUR LIFE CHANGES TO WHERE YOU ARE ALWAYS HARASSED WERE EVER YOU GO EVEN IN THE RESTROOM OF A STRIP CLUB. THAT SHIT IS JUST A LAWSUIT WAITING TO HAPPEN. SO WHY CHANCE IT. TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE HARD AND YOU AIN’T FORGOT THE HOOD. I AM STILL HERE IN THE HOOD AND BELIEVE YOU ME IT WILL KILL YOU AND ME AT ANYTIME, SO WHY COME BACK WHEN YOU TRIED SO HARD TO GET OUT. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED TO PROOF. NOT SAYING HE WAS TRYING TO BE HARD OR SOMETHING, IT IS JUST THAT WE AS BLACKS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE JEALOUS OF THE NEXT MAN OR WOMAN. AS FAR AS TRICK TRICK THAT GUN PLAY SHIT IS OUTDATED, MAN. PUT YOU DUKES UP, A 1 YEAR OLD CAN PICK UP A GUN. IF YOU WERE SO HARD WHY DIDN’T YOU FIRE IT, MY FAULT YOU CAN’T DO NOTHING WITHOUT YOUR CREW.

  • slyrical

    i agree with makavelli EM aint the whiteboy they won,t let rock the mic no more he a mega star y he in a club like that when its a million people waitin to get hit in the mouth & get paid.to all the superstars you rich stay out the fuckin hood

  • Dimez

    eminem sucks

  • http://www.myspace.com/mostwanted_aka_mw Junior

    HELTAH SIN SAY thanks for pointin that out!! Em said this n proved he’ll fuckin do it!!!! hopefully he makes a ablum soon!! a HIT ABLUM!! not his last bullshit!!

  • South Representa

    THINK ABOUT IT! IF YOU WERE IN DA RESTROOM AND SOME DUDES WERE HARASSING YOU, WHAT WOUL YOU DO! iF YOU SAY WALK AWAY YOU GAY THEN A MUTHAFUCKER! YOU GONNA LET A NIGGA VIOLATE YOU! WORD GET AROUND ABOUT THAT YOU GONNA HAVE HALF DA QUEERS IN DA COUNTRY WAITIN FOR YOU TO GO INSIDE A PUBLIC RESTROOM! EM AND HIS BODYGAURDS SHOULD’VE WHOOPED THEY ASS UNTIL THEM NIGGAS COULDN’T REMEMBER WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED! AND THEN NONE OF DA DUDES COULD’VE FILED A LAWSUIT! SO THIS SETS AN EXAMPLE! NONE OF YOU QUEER ASS NIGGAS NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING TO A NIGGA WHEN HE HOLDING HIS DICK IN HIS HAND! THAT’S A VIOLATION AND WON’T BE TOLERATED! CAUSE IF IT WAS ME, DA NIGGA SHOULD BE HAPPY IF HE COULD’VE GOT OUT OF THERE WIT BOTH OF HIS EYES OPEN! i WOULD’VE KNOCKED HIS TEETH OUT CAUSE I KNOW HE MUST’VE BEEN TALKIN SLICK TRYNA TAKE UP FOR ANOTHA NIGGA! HE ACTIN INNOCENT CAUSE HE TRYNA GET PAID BUT HE KNOW HE SHOULD’VE SHUT HIS MOUTH AND WALKED OUT!

  • jonjon–23

    I think it was rigged for straight publicity: (1) Eminem aint tough like that. Him and his mom both admitted how he used to get bullied and knocked the fuck out in school (2)Everyone knows eminem rolls 50 deep with bodyguards and a whole shitload of armed and trained security. If yall think JoJo gettin’ within 50 feet of eminem yall crazy. Money can buy a lot of things but it can’t buy respect. You can pay for situations and publicity but you still aint real.

  • jonjon–23

    You racist.

  • http://www.ananzi.co.za PHONY YAYO

    EMINEM WAZ JUZ LUKIN 4SUM1 SUCK HIZ DICK CUZ 50 WAZNT AROUND…LOL

    GGGGGGGGGGGG-UNOT

  • Hugh Mann

    Anybody can claim something happened; has this mensroom brawl been proven fact? Does the victim have a lawsuit pending or filed? Also why would Eminem hit somebody in the mensroom when he has folks on his payrole to handle those situations? Remember that rappers are pretend, Ill say it again rappers are pretend. As men there equal to another man. But as larger than life, superbadd, have all the answers, leaders, following their methods is equal to the lunatics running the asylumn. Remember it is called the Rap Game. The object of the game is to extract the largest chunk you can while available. This is not a secret, even rappers at the upper-echelon, refer to it as the rap game. Wise-up young niggas and quit getting caught up with the shiny things, expand your mind, it is the only thing you will ever truly possess.

  • T. Gittys

    Can’t even steal on a nigga muthafuckers will sew.

  • RAMMY

    I would be fuckin mad if i was pissin and someone wouldn’t shut up. It probably went down like that Ludacris video “Get Back” so he took care of business. And fuck u to all u dumb fucks hatin on Em!

  • http://www.xxlmag.com L.A.’s Finest

    JoJoChicago is right, mind your own business and you won’t get dropped. Go ahead Em L.A. style!!!

  • http://letsbeef.com Excite

    Ya wanna know why Em is really pissed…cause a new Emcee called Excite…is hitting hard on letsbeef.com hurry go pep…..

  • http://ww.com Monte

    Ems been through a lot of shit…leave the man alone…period.

  • http://myspace.com/dahoodiesnig dahoodiesnig

    eminem is the best …niggas niggas niggaz

  • http://www.ananzi.co.za PHONY YAYO

    OK U GUYS NID2 UPDATE NOW

  • stephanie

    Eminem swung in defence because they wouldnt be qiet so he had to something for him to shut up right? RIGHT!

  • jonjon–23

    Ya’ll niggas believe everything you read. I bet you a showroom full of Bentleys to a pile of shit that eminem set the whole thing up for publicity. He a scary cracker that rolls with 50 plus of security. Aint nobody getting close to him unless he say so.

  • http://www.yahoomail.com [-Ricky-]

    full of shit!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/dirtylao Durrty

    Em can do whatever he wants, mothafuccaz rich

  • SHo-Dog

    Ya’ll need to get off EM’s Tupac wanna be ass dick!!!!!!!! All you black motherfuckers who like EM would let him call you nigga and you’d smile in his face like it’s a joke. EM is the biggest con in rap music today. Him and 50 try to sell rap off of beef and controversy (like the shit from this article). Ya’ll need to stop listening to that old commercialized shit and listen to real niggas like UGK, Eightball and MJG, Twista and Common. Instead of getting on the dick of white commercialized conterfeiters. Black people look at your history; Louis Armstrong-Bix Biederback, Benny Goodman-Duke Ellington, Elvis Presley-Little Richard, New Edition-New Kids on the Block, Gover Washington and Najee-Kenny G and David Koz, Tupac-Eminem, you get the picture. We create and innovate and then they take and imitate and call themselves the great. I’ll give you a perfect example. Charlie Parker was the greatest saxaphone player to ever touch a horn but if you ask any black man/woman between the ages of 10-30 who is the greatest sax player that they know I bet you $100.00 they’ll say Kenny G. I ain’t hating I’m just telling the truth. Open your eyes black people.

  • Jamie

    I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT TRICK TRICK DID THAT SHIT…LOL!!

  • John

    well proof died em can do WHATEVER he wants (lol) why is this a huge deal “EMINEM ACCUSED OF BEATING UP MAN IN DETROIT STRIP CLUB”

    r.i.p. Proof 4 EVER

  • http://. Spurney

    sho-dog yo understand me nigga, i no hes commercail but i belive in em most hood do belive in him hes really made a name for himself hes the real deal dawg weather you wunna admit this shit or not the reasons im sayin this shit is not cause ima a fan{like 3/4 of this planet}but is i know sometimes that nigga is fake but 95% of the time he is doin it to just say “fuck you” to the media the world ..everyone thats what made him a gan…no, not a gangster a influencal icon the ghetto and most suberban white boys want be him no listion sho dog I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR SAYIN but we wont fully understand eminem’s impact on ghettos and suberbia until hes dead thats all im sayin.

  • Dima

    The article doesn’t even make sense…

    Look this dude is a retard:

    “Miad says he then ASKED THE BODYGUARD TO EASE UP on the star struck man in the restroom.”

    right…and then he says:

    “I was just minding my own business, taking a leak.”

    wtf???

    How are you just “minding your own business” when u just told his bodyguard to basically stop doing his job??

    It ain’t your fuckin place to tell he what to do…em was right for getting pissed…

    but either way this shit sounds fake…although it could be that em is still traumatized from proof’s death and it’s kinda a similar situation so maybe he had like a breakdown and decided to swing…shit who really knows…

  • O-Dog

    Ha Ha. That was a good one! I’m flatterd that my biz is noteworthy enough for you to fuck with it. – On a side note, how ’bout a battle Em? No bodygaurds, no managers, no staff, no lawyers – just some you in your ’97 form, one on one shit. W’dup?

  • san diego

    battle em? hahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • http://Letstakeadeeperlook. SHo-Dog

    Hey Spurney, let’s take a deeper look at the situation. Before Dr. Dre signed Em, he had been booted off of Death Row and didn’t really want to fuck with the hardcore anymore. Because Dre had been fucked by Eazy and Suge, he wanted to find a new business venture that would guarantee him some money. To his advantage, a white A&R finds Em’s demo, sits it on Dre’s desk and pleads for him to listen to it. Dre did (and you know he could tell that the rapper was white) and he decided to roll with Em. You know just like I know that before EM, there were NO white boys who were taken seriously in the rap game. Now you have Dre. (who has been dubbed as a legend in rap) signs EM (who can rap his ass off)and gves him street credibility through his affiliation. That combination was going to make millions off top because you’ve never seen anything like that before in rap’s history. Remember too that Dre and Rakim was supposed to come out with something around that time too but Dre chose Em. Anything that Dre makes will sell a minimum of 10 million copies. So imagine that 10 million coupled with tapping into a huge white fan base through EM and that’s nothing but paper. Dre saw that before he even signed EM. To trip your head out even more, guess how many units Em sold before he signed with Dre. “0″. Now the paralell with that is somebody like Ludacris had to sell 30,000 units before any major label would even consider signing him. Do you see my point? It was a business decision not a musical one.

  • http://. Spurney

    Sho-dog you bring up many good points i do admit it was a bussniuess descion not a musical one. As was em’s dscion to sign 50 anyways back on course… i do agree with you sayin dre new that em was white dispite what he tells the media “i didnt even know he was white” because ive listioned to some of ems stuff back on the “Infinite” album his voice was as white as can be. thought that sold less than 1000 copies out of his car. but unfortunitly i am not convinced thatludacris is lyrically,emotionally,meaningfuly at the same level wit eminem. i’ll im sayin is i am EXTREMLY curouis to see how his next album will be without his slim shady persona and weahter he will be a rap legend or be just another sub-par rapper. thats what makes this next album such a HUGE deal the next album will truly determine weather his influence has been flet or it has slipped from his grasp from the dayz of “Marshall Mathers Lp” and the not as inpressive “Eminem show”. Anyways one of the point ima tryin to get across is hes NEVER SAID NIGGA expected when he was 13-years old on a tape i dont belive he is a con because he IS a real rapper no matter his skin color or at least WAS real but unfortunitly these days im not to sure only time can tell is all im sayin.

  • http://. Spurney

    sorry sho dogg but i rushed it so there are some typos:

    “thought that sold less than 1000 copies out of his car”
    i meant to spell though not thought

  • san diego

    thank you spurney thank you! sho-dog if you listen to the infinite album you’ll see how amazing it is. dre’s been in the buisness a long time and i know for a fact dre knew em had a lot of talent! and plus when dre signed em he knew it would bigger his carrer too which it did. em built a hip hop empire there wouldnt be any good music if dre never signed eminem. ya guys eminem is white so if a white dude can come into a black culture be accepted and spit better than any of them in the game how is he not the best! see it sucks to still see eminem still portrayed as a “white rapper” fuck that eminem is a lyricist,artist,genious,and most of all hes opening doors to expand what i love…HIP HOP!

  • http://Letstakeadeeperlook. SHo-Dog

    Hey Spurney, like I wrote earlier, EM can rap his ass off but I see that it was more business than anything. There are plenty of people who can spit fire but don’t get the recognition. For example, Twista has been the most feared rapper for over a decade. He’s in the book of world records for spittn but yet he just recently started getting nationwide props when he signed with Rocafella. That’s a motherfucking shame. 8Ball, Bun B., B.G. spit pure fire but they’re not such a national sensation in America because the dominating population of America doesn’t understand the hood and the real shit that real niggas rap about. On the other hand, the dominating population understands EM (for obvious reasons) and therefore gets more publicity. I grew up listening to rap and year after year I see how business has a high percentage of who is successful than talent. I saw Tupac and Biggie start from humble beginnings and grow to be the two best rappers ever. I’m fortunate to have lived in their lifetime. I remeber seeing Pac for the first time with the African outfit on rapping on Digital Underground’s same song. I remember seeing Biggie for the first time on Supercat’s video “Dolly My Baby”. I remember seeing and hearing them and thinking how their verse stood out from the other people on the video even though they weren’t the feature. I followed thier careers until they died. But it’s funny how after they died, all of a sudden you don’t see people come up through the ranks like Pac & Biggie. All of the sudden out of nowhere, you have people appearing (like Em and 50) and thier supposed to be the best ever. I don’t buy that. I won’t let the industry dictate to me who I’m supposed to like or not like. I still see people who are as cold and some are colder than Em but they don’t get the same recognition. Why do you think that is? I think Method Man is the most underrated rapper in rap today and he doesn’t get the props that he deserves. Somebody like EM can be off the scene for 2-3 years and still be on MTV and VH1 every month. Do you think that the dominating population really like rap that much or do they enjoy seeing themselves being represented on top of something that was dominated by blacks? I’m not being racist but I’m telling the truth. Blacks have always been open sharing with other races. On the other hand, blacks historically had to be 3 times better than their greatest great. In fact, look at what Tiger Woods had to go through playing golf. It is hard for a black man to be a race car driver or a jockey. I don’t care about Em being white. In fact I really like Bubba Sparxx and Paul Wall. I just feel like EMs career was a major business move that got everyone involved extremely rich. As far as selling 1000 out of the trunk, any rapper can say that because no one can really prove it. I saw his story on Driven and they said he didn’t move any units. As far as someone being a legend, really you have to wait until someone’s career is over to judge that. If you think about it, there were a lot of people in the music industry, in the media, in politics (black and white) and in everyday life who hated Tupac’s guts. Most of them hated him because they didn’t understand him just like that don’t understand most of us black males. Being consistent with history, people tend to hate what they don’t understand. When Pac died and they looked at all of they lives that he touched, the inspiration he gave, the range of talent that he possessed, the real love that he had in him, then they realized that they had the greatest rapper to ever touch the mic around them and didn’t even know it. You know someone is a legend when their enemies give them props, when their music stands the test of time and when their music relates to the issues in the days and times that we live in. Will Em be in that catagory. I don’t know. Many have tried to compare Em to Pac but there is no comparison. EM couldn’t hold Pac’s jock strap!! But once again, that was a business tactic for people on MTV to call EM the “white Tupac”. To me that was an insult. Not only because Em can’t touch Pac but at that time, EM didn’t really accomplish anything to warrant that comparison. If you notcie, they did the same thing when 50 came out. Pac was a Pro-black activist, a black panther, a real poet, real actor and the greatest rapper ever. How can you take somebody who just got into the game and honestly compare them to that. Tell you the truth that wasn’t even fair to EM and 50 but that added to the publicity and fame that they were searching for. Why do people need to compare themselves to someone else to make them look good? That’s a business tactic. Real niggas just let the music speak for itself. When Pac was alive he didn’t walk around talking about being the greatest, he just put in work. That’s what rappers should do. After Pac and Biggie died, there were a lot of “Self-Made Legends” including Jay-Z. When Pac was alive they wasn’t spittn that shit. Pac had the whole eastcoast quite as church mice. A lot of those motherfuckers went underground to diss Pac. If anybody claims that they are great, you need to prove it during wartime not peacetime. As for San Diego, I’m sure Dre has tons of demos with talented motherfuckers on them but Dre’s mind is on who he can make the most money with. Not only that, Dre is and would have been a legend in the game without Em. Em needed Dre, Dre didn’t need EM. Besides that, there are plenty of rappers who are just as good and better than Em. Em has an advantage over them and we all know why.

  • http://Letstakeadeeperlook. SHo-Dog

    San Diego, I don’t know why you made that arrogant ass statement about there would be no good music if dre didn’t sign EM. In fact, there’s tons of tight shit coming out of the south right now. I haven’t seen anything significant that Em has done in a while. Obviously you’re limiting yourself when it comes to worth while listening to rap music. Or maybe you just can’t relate to the good shit that’s out there. As far as building an empire, who are you referring to? D12? I don’t think so. Ole snitch ass, putting a restraining order on Vivica Fox, pseudo-beef starting 50? 50 gets far more respect in the commercial world than on the streets. Believe that.

  • san diego

    the reason you aint seen shit from em in a while is because he doesnt put out shit thats weak. 50 was about to put out an album but em said no! rappers now a days come out with albums left and right and they are weak! why do you think dres albums are so hot cause he takes his time. and the south is wack right now outkast holds it down aint nobody spittin fire down there. im talkin about real lyrics all rap is now is club bullshit and it all sucks.

  • http://Letstakeadeeperlook. SHo-Dog

    San Diego, you are outta your motherfucking mind. Who died and made Em the authority of making rap cds. Pac was spittin out cds left and right and the only one that was wack, was the one that Em produced “Loyal To The Game” because of EMs horrible production. The south is holding it down right now. All major rappers in the rap industry are giving it up to the south right now. You need to stop looking at videos exclusively and listen to the actual cds song for song. Rappers gotta make club songs nowadays because corporate america is controlling the airwaves and that’s what they want. They don’t want street/hood shit on the radio like in the late 80′s early 90′s. They want music that they can understand and relate to. Just because EM doesn’t put in the work to release cds left and right doesn’t give him any authority on what anybody else does. As far as Dre, he said in his song “Hello” that he doesn’t make music to stay in the game , he does it cause he wants to. Dre can charge $50,000-250,000 for one track so he doesn’t have to make cds. You need to get real. Bow down to the crunk!!

  • http://. Spurney

    Hey Sho-dog now dont get me wrong nigga i really do respect you in that you understand Raps REAL history not just the last 2 years like about 90% of the people of this site anyways to the point..i agree that eminem ISNT as good as Pac i belive the em is as good as B.I.G. When tupac and B.I.G died.THATS WHEN DRE{another REAL legend in the rap world}
    JAY-Z{hes a legend but jigga has been passed by em before remeber “renegade”} KAYNE WEST{NOT a legend ha.. for every bad tupac song is one urban kanye west fan whitch is zero} 50 CENT/G-UNIT{them niggaz are the most fake commercail shit out there aimed at suberban kids ages 10-14 trust them fake ass nuggas dont have any street creed and talk all this shit{50} and CANT back it up they wouldnt last a second in the hood i grew up in} and EMINEM {who back then lyrically had earned it by the time of the Marshall Mathers Lp he had been proclaimed a legend by the streets and suberbia the Eminem Show just continued that legacy} were handed down the thrown from biggie and Tupac. Eminem,Dre,Jigga were the only ones that carried on the tradition of REAL rap. I do belive that eminem is better than twista becasue lyrically em’s lyrics make you think more. Method man IS EXTERMLY UNDERATED but hes not accepted in suberbia that is the nitch that those bitches 50 cent and G-unit have caught on to. Now nigga you understand as strong as i do that this is a racsit world and if eminem was black we both know em most likly WOULDNT have been signed but lyrically without hearing his voice you could confuse him for being Black. I do also belive the best emcees in the world were never signed and i completly understand that dre would be a legend without em and person who has REALLY listioned to “the Chronic” would agree. when you said “Real niggas just let the music speak for itself. When Pac was alive he didn’t walk around talking about being the greatest, he just put in work” Thats personally issue for em if hes cocky some people are born at certain time he really had a reason at those time, not compared to the past. Eminem IS and amazing emcess and great actor and a hit or miss producer {“loyal to the game” BIG MISS} and a street poet. but im NOT comparing him to tupac theres nothing to compare there NEVER will be another tupac as there also NEVER will be another eminem. no matter what anyone says they’re two very or impressive and distinic styles. as for eminem bein signed by dre that was a bussinuss dusscion and eminem signing 50 was also only thing is 50 profits off of 9 shots in his body he dosent have any street creed many niggas{including myself} hate his fake ass thug image so its not hard to imagin why he has those nine shots.
    Anyways back on my points i cant prove he sold less than 1000 “infinte” albums expect alloooot of website links. Also when you said “If anybody claims that they are great, you need to prove it during wartime not peacetime” eminem has served MANY pop icons as well as emcees {ja.Rule,Icp{if you call them rappers} benzio those fagots limp bizkit{they dug there own grave more or less} etc…..} he has done in alot of people but unfortunitly our generation wont see another east vs west rap war agian. Though em has admitted “if i was balck i would have sold half”. For my last point ” As far as someone being a legend, really you have to wait until someone’s career is over to judge that.” Sho-Dog thats what ive been saying all along that will eminem be a legend only time can tell. thats what makes his next album so increible importance because “encore” was a major letdown {my perosnally oppion not all the tracks just some}. but sho-dog i do respect that you {like me} liston to real rap and old stuff not 99.7 percent of the bullshit thats out there today…

  • http://. Spurney

    sorry i meant 99.7 percent of the commercail shit out there today

  • http://Letstakeadeeperlook. SHo-Dog

    I respect what you said but don’t sleep on Twista. The combination of not only what he’s saying but how he’s flipping it is phenomonal. I like Kanye because (just like in the true spirit of rap) he says what he wants to say even if I or anybody else disagrees. Even in interviews (remember the Hurricane Katrina incident)he says it how he feels. I think when it’s all said and done, Em will be remembered for opening rap up to white america and helping them understand the power and beauty of rap. If you can recall, at one time and point, the American music awards didn’t even have a category for rap because they didn’t think it was real music. At one time and point MTV would never play any rap videos when BET was. At one time, America hated rap music and wasn’t willing to open it’s doors to rap or rappers. Do you know what changed all of that? Russell Simmons-Multimillionaire, Sean Puffy Combs-Multimillionaire, Suge Knight-Multimillionaire. Corporate America began to see that the rap business was making millions of dollars and they wanted a share of that. They didn’t give a fuck about the music or it’s evolution, they just wanted the money that it could produce. That’s fake to me. That’s like me knowing a bitch for 10 years and I’m trying to get with her but she keeps turning me down. Then I get on a hustle and start clocking some serious greenbacks and then she’s all on my nuts. What kind of shit is that. The same applies to America’s relationship with rap. I don’t buy that and I hate the fact that the majority of rappers are rapping to please the same motherfuckers who didn’t like rap in the first place. That’s why I listen to niggas who keep it gutter and say what the fuck they feel. When it comes down to it, that’s what rap was really based on “the experience of young black males in america”. We know we can’t walk up to a police officer and say fuck the police. But we can do that shit in a rap song and make paper off it. We can express our thoughts and feelings and tell the world what we’re going through. That’s why I love rap so much. If you think about, there’s nowhere else that we have the means to express ourselves how we feel it. I think rap needs to go back to what made it what was in the first place “street/hood”.

  • http://. Spurney

    you know what sho-dog i honestly will agree kanye isnt afriad to say whats on his mind but… i honestly didnt want to argue with you and i still dont this is a rascit world we DO need to go back to what created this industy i really cant argue with anything you said but hip hop also needs to get more then just some niggas sayin they came from a hard hood and later find out they grew up on a farm or somthin. Hip-Hop is going in some pretty confusing directions ut at the same time the industy needs some new more intovative stuff to expand the indsuty know what i mean?

  • http://. Spurney

    like what you said “Even in interviews (remember the Hurricane Katrina incident)he says it how he feels.”i may sound as if im condtrodicting myself but kayne has continued one of the most inportant legacys of hip-hop
    tupac-”i dont give a Fuck”
    Eminem-”i just dont give a fuck”
    Kayne-says whats on my mind
    ^like ive said he is nevertheless carring on the leagacy

    i may have been alittle hard on kanye but i still not a fan of his music i DO respect that he says whats on his mind however

  • http://. Spurney

    Kayne-says whats on my mind
    ^says whats on HIS mind
    well i found a typo

  • http://Letstakeadeeperlook. SHo-Dog

    My bad woodie.

  • B@YB3

    fuk emem

  • latinpistol

    I COULDNT HELP TO NOTICE SUM GAYME DICKRIDERS THO DIS GOT NOYIN TA DO WIT 50. ANYWAY EM HANDLED THAT LIKE A TRU GANGSTA. CANT BELEIVE THIS BITCH ACTUALLY WENT TO THE POLICE

  • stephen A

    maid is my unle that eminem him

  • em side boy

    yo this is messed em lie he said in his song i am who ever i say i am hes tired of trying to go to the bathroom with out someone theredosent this guy listen to this shit i mean damn he had it coming you dont be all talkin to a guy wen his wang out so yea go em you my boy .

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