What if Lloyd Banks, Fabolous & Juelz Santana Made a Super Group?

The Gotham City Gangsters… Whatever you want to call them—it doesn’t matter, I simply want Lloyd Banks, Fabolous, and Juelz Santana to put out a group album.

Now before you throw a hissy fit and say it won’t happen, I need you to be quiet and listen carefully. These days, everyone is making super groups. Jay-Z brought in Trey Songz and Jeezy for his newly minted Mob Squad. Lupe Fiasco enlisted Asher Roth, B.O.B., Wale, Charles Hamilton (assuming he escapes the institution), Blu, J. Cole, and the Cool Kids to form his All City Chess Club. CRS consists of Lupe, Kanye, and Pharrell. We already know about Slaughterhouse. Apparently, there’s a group called Ocean’s 7, which is made up of ringleader Jermaine Dupri, Nelly, Usher, Trey Songz, Johnta Austin, Bryan-Michael Cox, and some other guy. And, don’t forget about Mos Def’s Center Edge Territory, which includes Jay Electronica and Currency (sorry C-note, but I’m not typing the dollar sign in your name, it’s not a good look. What, you don’t believe me? Okay, then tell me how it worked out for All $tar).

Now going back to the Gotham City Gangsters or GCG for short. Banks might be on the verge of retaking the mainstream with his Hunger For More 2 album, especially after BBB and his work with Kanye. However, Fabolous has been quietly suffering from lackluster sales lately (stop spending all of your time on Twitter and get into the studio!), while Juelz can’t put out a hit record for the life of him (see “Days of Our Lives,” “Back to the Crib,” “Mixin Up the Medicine”).

I think that with the hype he has right now, Banks can make this trio happen and get NY back into it. Jay’s “Empire State of Mind” was the launching pad. We need someone to take the baton already. Fabolous’s career started off hot, but he has since stalled like a ’98 Explorer leaving the Yankee Stadium parking lot after a playoff game. Grieving music was okay, but does not compare to his Clue days.

Juelz doesn’t have the same respect as Banks or the same history as Fab, but he has potential. He gets slack for his “nursery rhyme” lyrics, but his delivery is one of the best in the game. The problem with Juelz is that he struggles when he’s not competing. His best work was I Can’t Feel My Face with Weezy. I’m absolutely convinced that if one were to lock Juelz into the studio with Banks and Fab, the punch lines would explode out of him as if Big L himself descended from the heavens into the session.

Red Café would need to be an affiliate. He’s the realest rapper from New York. We know this because when listening to his drug trade lyrics, one gets the feeling that Red knows exactly what he’s talking about. What he lacks for in lyrics, he makes up for with truth.

Now imagine the production side of this group. I’m assuming a super group of this stature would have its choice in producers. (Speaking of super group stature, the word super group has been bandied about too recklessly. Yeah, I’m talking to you, Slaughterhouse, as well as, uh, Center Edge Territory…)

I would not want Kanye, Dre, Pharell, or Timbaland. Why? Because they wouldn’t bring out the best from the GCG. I would definitely go with Just Blaze, for at least four or five tracks. I have yet to hear Banks over a Just track, and both Fab and Juelz have done well with him (“Breathe” and “Second Coming,” respectively). It could be dope. Additionally, I think Needlz would be good for a few gritty cuts.

Now before you say “Premier would be perfect for this album,” let me remind you that people always want Premier for every New York rapper. However, I feel like Premier isn’t always the best fit. While he does represent NY hip-hop from a production standpoint, his collaboration depends on the artist. For Nas and maybe even 50, he would work. But in a bar for bar type setting in which tracks would be punched out like Arturo Gatti in the ring, I’m not so sure.

The surprise producer who might be a risk would be newcomer Lex Luger. Imagine this trio spitting over a dark Luger beat? I know the kid is new, but his beats from Flockaveli were absolutely filthy. That they carry a Southern taste would make it so much more interesting. Sure, it’s a risk, sort of like when you’re like at the supermarket parking lot and you finish packing the items from the cart into your car, you roll the cart toward the cart depot, all the while hoping that it doesn’t crash into another car with the owner walking towards you. But if you successfully roll it into the depot, it’s a very satisfying feeling. Risky, but all the more satisfying. That’s sort of how it would be bringing these three guys into the booth with Luger. It would also help give the album some Southern appeal, this way the Confederate States don’t feel left out.

The one issue with this group album might be the contracts. Luckily, Fab and Juelz are both on Def Jam. So it would be up to Banks, and probably depends on the type of contract he signed with EMI. So I ask the rap gods, please make this album happen. If not, I might be subjected to, gulp, Ocean’s 7. Shlomo

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  • KiNGPiN

    Tech N9ne, Twista, and Krayzie Bone – Speed Demons. Now that would be dope!!!

    or KiD CuDi and XV should make a group

    • bry

      YEAH THAT KRAYZIE BONE TWISTA AND Tech N9ne would be dope…Lyrical shiiiiit

  • http://xxlmag.com bill

    good post, would be a good group./

  • M. Baby!

    Maybe, then maybe real Hip-Hop would come back. But I doubt it, they all would make songs like “Throw it in the bag.” They need to change it from Hip-Hop to Hip-Hop Entertainment

  • jigga

    that would be hot i can’t wait for this to happen



    • Big Mike

      Why you trippin man?? You dont like the blogs?? dont read em.

      You hate dumb ass blogs. I hate dumb ass elbino’s who read blogs and then bitch about it. Get your face outta your pussy and grow up.

    • nosleept1lbklyn

      Im sorry but “GAME,CASSIDY, AND JADAKISS!!” does not sound like a good idea…

  • The187Worm

    SlaughterHouse buries all these cats….Shit Crooked I, Joell Ortiz can do it themselves…They top in the game right now and will be ….Fuck the rest…aint nobody got shit on these muthufuckas

  • T-Mac

    Co sign M.Baby. Guess it would be cool. But they would make songs about their Gucci bags, swag, whateva …. If i wanna listen hip-hop supergroup, i can bump Slaughterhouse any time i want. Now that’s hip hop…. Loso ALWAYS come hard on mixtapes, but his albums are pure commercial shit. Lloyd Banks is good and Juelz is okay…

  • blkzombies

    how is this a super group, when their solo albums range between okay and good.

  • El Tico Loco

    That’s not a supergroup those are just cats that could use each other’s help.

  • og bobby j

    id rather see cassidy, saigon, termanology and papoose….

    for a real “super group”, you would need super stars…

    Jay, Em, Luda, wayne, Bun B – something like that…

  • DV8

    nah…Juelz hasnt done anything of note since his first album (if you want to count that) and Vado has damn near made him a distant memory. That disloyal cornball blamed Cam for his career not going anywhere and then when Cam let him go his career still didnt go anywhere, as far as I know nobody is checking for that new Juelz shit. Its crazy because Vado raps like Juelz used to on Cam’s S.D.E. album. Juelz really needs to step it up.

    As far as Banks and Fab. I wouldnt want to see them in a group because I would miss hearing the little subliminal shots theyve been taking at each other for a minute now.

    I would be pleased with a Nas/AZ album.

    • mav


  • Big Mike

    Outta this world!! Cool idea man.

    • Buff Bagwell

      You smokin Reggie


    how about CANIBUS, KOOL G RAP & JOJO PELLEGRINO. they are forming a group i dont want to use the term super group cause i think u need more then 3 mc’s to be a supergroup. wu-tang is a supergroup!

    but these 3 cats can spit and spit hard i cant wait to hear the name of the group and that first mixtape im fiendin for it!!!

  • will

    Rap gods, make it happen!

  • therealwayno

    I may be alone but I don’t think this would be a good “supergroup” or group at all. Maybe one song or two, but an album? Nah.

  • Justin

    Actually, I Would Take Out Juelz And Put Jadakiss. I’ve Been Saying This For Years, And Since Jadakiss Is 10xs Lyrical Than Juelz, It Makes Perfect Sense. Now Tell The Powers That Be To Make That Happen, ASAP!!

    PS. No Lex Luger Or Any Other Southern Tracks! Ain’t That What Got NY Hip Hop In Trouble In The First Place? Please, Let Some Bred Ny Producers Produce It.

  • http://yahoo.com Virse

    Hell Fab and Banks should’ve been did a album every collabo dey do is crazy

  • Dick B.

    Why should I give a s***. They’re all some trash. They don’t represent real hip hop.

    Lloyd Banks – not lyrical at all.
    Fabolous – you can tell by his name. only gay people say fabolous
    Juelz Santana – doesn’t rap about anything

    Premier with these guys, come on now. Thats ludacris to even consider. I don’t know anybody who listens to Premo and thinks: you know who would be good on his beats, the guys who made “Throw It In The Bag” and “Beamers, Benz, and Bentley”.

    They ain’t a supergroup just a group.

    • El Tico Loco

      You got a point on the Premier part. But you know if it was to happen the 106 and Krap audience will jump on it.

      • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

        ^ 2x truth

        Lex Luger is still stuck in ‘BMF’ mode with the beats.

        And you knew you were gonna catch heat for saying him over Premo that’s why you threw the disclaimer in there Shlomo.

        If you said Swizz, I could see that. I could also see the above mentioned 3 killing ‘Shut Your Bloodclot Mouth’, that 50 throwaway Premo did.

        More Hip Hop headizm, and less mainstream rap fandom please. Good discussion blogs shLo.

  • Q461

    Niggaz need to realize not all those supergroup ideas are good ideas. As far a track or 2, hell ya! But we don’t need a full 12-14 songs with Banks, Fab and Juelz. Its just not needed. And I’m a fan of all 3. Slaughterhouse formed for a purpose: 4 sick lyricists who had been damn near blackballed in the industry, tired of major label bullshit and drama, and who knew nobody was seeing ANY of em on the mic despite all that. Listen to the move on remix and you will understand what I mean.

    Also as of now Curren$y says Center Edge Territory isnt putting out a full record or mixtape, they are just a trio who will collaborate in small doses when it makes sense. I gotta hear a Jay Elec solo album before any collabo shit personally.

    I’m down with super groups and alliances- but most of the time a full album just ain’t needed.

  • Jerm

    a nice supergroup not mentioned, are Crooked I’s 4 brothers, Horse Shoe GANG. If u wanna see unity on the mic, they can make pretty good tracks together, mostly because they understand each other way better than most rappers that collab.

  • caino

    Supergroups in general dont really work !!

    Remember Jayz, DMX and Ja RUlE , you remember the firm?

    like someone said it works for like 3 songs then after that…not so much!

    l mean even Slaughterhouse whose album was dope as hell , struggled to move units!!

    Good idea in theory but thats all!

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Sirctiano

    Canibus, Chino XL and Rass Kass would blow the industry, straight up !!!

  • jane

    If you minus Sheek Louch from the lox and thats your supergroup.


  • jane

    If you minus Sheek Louch from the lox…….you would have your supergroup…


  • mav

    i hate to admit it but that is true them two back and forth is the dopest shit period dope money we gon make it one more step shots firedeven that thug in the streets joint…pure crack

  • RissaBaby

    Do It Up , i Love Banks <3 ♥

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  • ab.zero

    ok…i started reading this because i figured you was gonna say some shit that made me go “hmmm..got a point” but then you DESTROY that thought when you started basically slandering Slaughterhouse and C.E.T..first off..Slaughterhouse says super-group because if you think about it..name another super group that even had lyrics like they ALL do..and stays togeather and are all on the same point and part in they career..let alone built that much buzz before dropping a pretty-much good album in 7 days of studio time..NOBODY..the only group that can even be put up against that is Wu-Tang and where are they???..C.E.T i cant really speak to much about because i havent heard them all togeather but just the thought of Curren$y,Jay Electronica and, Mos Def is like..Astonishing..that would be more of a breath of fresh air then Slaughterhouse is..I cant say i didnt see if comming after i heard Curren$y’s breakfast (Produced by Mos Def). Now this Githam City Gangsters bullshit would be nice..cuz we all know Fab and Banks sound nice on the same track.. (Remember the Titan) but i think Juelz is the wrong one…he aint on the same level as of right now…even tho he has a history of doing pretty decent on other peoples tracks..i think somebody with a lil bit more Flare would be better..but i kinda see why you have em because it really aint nobody else to put..Red Cafe’ wouldnt stay cuz we all know who is people is (Diddy a.k.a Grim Reaper) but all in all i get ya point..minus that shit you was talkin bout Slaughterhouse and C.E.T.. Jets Fool!

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