2Pac: Do people still give a shit?

Today I kept waiting for something involving 2Pac to take its rightful place atop the list of trending topics on Black People Twitter, but it never did. The closest “RIP Tupac” ever got was like, fourth. “Dear Taylor Swift” was number one for most of the day. It looks like someone came up with a great tweet (my bad) about how Kanye West took a microphone out of her hand, not her virginity, and that it’s time to move on, and people kept piling on – some people with similar open letters about how she needs to get over the incident at last year’s VMAs, and some people with words of encouragement. A lot of white people are still upset about that shit. They probably projected a lot of anger having to do with a half-black secret Muslim being elected president onto Kanye. They probably won’t get over it until another black man makes an especially bad decision involving a white woman, OJ-style. Imagine if Kobe Bryant had raped that chick out in Colorado during the Obama administration.

It just so happens that the umpteenth anniversary of 2Pac’s death (there’s been quite a few at this point), perhaps the first one since a lot of black people figured out about Twitter (I’ve been on it since summer ’07), happened the day after the VMAs – the day when of course a lot of people are gonna want to talk about it, either because it’s their first day back at work, at a place where people stand around talking about the motherfucking VMAs (I remember talking about the VMAs at Hardees), or because it’s a Monday, and they don’t have shit else better to do than go on Twitter and talk about whatever happened the day before. If this had been any other Monday, where the only thing that happened the day before was an especially cerebral (which is to say kinda boring) episode of Mad Men, then who knows. 2Pac could have dominated the entire list of trending topics, as if Kat Stacks had a new video on World Star. Black people tend to be big on celebrating anniversaries, when we can remember. Look at how many times 2Pac was on the cover of XXL, long after reasonable people ceased to give a shit.

But I do suspect that people just don’t care as much about 2Pac as they did, say, 10 years ago, when ridonkulous numbers (i.e. any number more than zero) of people actually went out and copped those albums where they took his old throwaway vocals and put them over elevator music versions of songs by Bruce Hornsby and the Range, and what have you. We all know about “Changes,” which I saw was posted over at the Smoking Section today, when I was there looking for shit I might be able to write about at this point in the afternoon, because I haven’t been very prolific lately, and I don’t want to up and forget how to blog. It’s a wonder my login here still works. But wasn’t there also a 2Pac version “Broken Wings’ by Mister Mister, or am I just imagining that? It’s too bad people people finally stopped buying CDs. Who knows kind of crap Afeni et al. would have pulled out of their ass. You’ve seen that 2Pac statue down on top of a mountain in Georgia, the one that got defaced by the same racists who hacked in SOHH a few years ago (we can presume). Obviously, they’re not capable of making very good decisions. Why does 2Pac even have a statue on top of a mountain in Georgia? Was he even in Georgia, other than that time he shot a cop? Maybe the cop was the one who wrote on the statue.

I DVRd that documentary on ESPN about 2Pac’s special relationship (nullus?) with Mike Tyson, because I was born in the ’80s, and I’ll force myself to watch something, if it has to do with hip-hop, because there’s a part of me that’s still holding on to the dream, and because you don’t write over a million words for the site over the course of going on five years without collecting as much fodder as you can. Who knows. Something interesting might happen. Watching One Night in Bangkok, or whatever it was called, I wondered if this was how old people felt, when Time Life started selling those compilations of oldies records on CD, back in the mid ’80s. There wasn’t anything worthwhile that hadn’t been rehashed from some ’90s-era MTV program. There wasn’t any real insight into the relationship between 2Pac and Mike Tyson. Because of course the narrator couldn’t have been like, “Well, 2Pac and Mike Tyson both raped chicks. Maybe that’s why they were friends,” as he would have in a Bol documentary on the topic. The while thing read like Afeni Shakur and her business manager went over it with a fine tooth comb. So the only reason to watch it was to be like, “Hey, some chick who used to write for Vibe magazine circa 1993! Her skin is remarkably taut for someone who must be closing in on 50. I guess it’s true what they say – black don’t crack. And look, it’s Maya Angelou! I can’t believe she’s still alive. I thought she was in slavery.” A total nostalgia trip. And what it comes down to is that I haven’t got it all figured out just yet a lot of kids these days just plain aren’t old enough to remember any of that shit. They know who 2Pac is, but why should they care. He’s never gonna do anything interesting ever again.

  • sealsaa

    “Well, 2Pac and Mike Tyson both raped chicks. Maybe that’s why they were friends,”

    ^I lol’d

    • Fartbox

      My fav part too.

    • salsa

      Tupac never raped that chick. Check your facts. The same girl performed oral sex on 2pac a week earlier in a club with tens of witnesess. Tupac was charged of sexual abuse – touching her buttocks, not of rape. Had tupac been white and not known, he would have walked free.

      cheers

  • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

    “And what it comes down to is that I haven’t got it all figured out just yet”

    ^ FIXED

    And sometimes I think you never will…

  • Jeff

    love the alanis reference

  • rell

    i fully agree. tupac has been done forever. all kids are too young to even care about what the man does. He was a 90s pop star and now hes done. People will cease to care about michael jackson in 20 years when he has no more new music or babies hanging out windows

    • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

      “People will cease to care about michael jackson in 20 years when he has no more new music or babies hanging out windows”

      ^ no-sign

      MJ had WAY more of an impression on the world thru his music than Pac had.

      Now if you would have said BIG, I would have agreed, but you cannot compare Micheal Jackson to Tupac Shakur. Your media shenanigan example proves you have no idea of what MJ meant to Black music.

      • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

        And before you reply with something, remember I said WORLD, not HOOD or GHETTO or America.

        I can even retract my Black music statement, and say MUSIC PERIOD.

        NO ARTIST has been able to duplicate what Michael Jackson did. Mike was a late 60′s pop star who lasted until this very day. You can’t compare what a dude did for decades to what a dude did 4 a couple of years.

        Mike’s new album will sell like hotcakes, believe this.

        RIP Pac and Mike.

      • kedordu

        MJ had WAY more of an impression on the world thru his music than Pac had.

        Now if you would have said BIG, I would have agreed.

        how did BIG have more influence than pac ?? really ?

        • http://bboycult.com $yk

          “People will cease to care about michael jackson BIG in 20 years when he has no more new music”

          ^ y’all knew damn well this is what I was talking about.

          “. AND MJ AINT GONNA SELL. DARKCHILD AND AKON ARE MAKING THE MUSIC . IF HE GOT WITH RAPHAEL SAADIQ ,SALAAM REMI , NEPTUNES ,TIMBO HE WOULD SELL 10MIL EASY”

          ^ NOW CYPHER (NO)

          It has been reported that they are releasing songs from the ‘Thriller’ and ‘Bad’ days (QUINCY JONES PRODUCTION). People will buy it to update their MJ collections, from the J5/Jacksons days.

          IT WILL SELL.

          You are wrong and incorrect son…cats worldwide don’t give a f^X about them names you dropped…only MICHEAL JACKSON’S NAME MATTERS.

    • http://specknasty.com -Sn

      Tupac was not a “pop star”…

  • black jesus

    look, it’s Maya Angelou! I can’t believe she’s still alive. I thought she was in slavery.
    ^hahahahahahaha

  • http://specknasty.com -Sn

    food for thought – What if rap had more people tryna be Tupac and less people tryna be Biggie??

    R.I.P. to both.

    • Kev

      I’m sure there’s lots of cats who would have tried to be more like 2pac. The TIs don’t want them though. Biggie was easier to control and wasn’t bound to say some shit that gets the black community riled up. Not that Big wasn’t talented, he just wasn’t a deep thinking or a loose cannon. He was just happy to chill watching mob movies and eating bacon wrapped snack cakes.

      • eesco

        Bacon wrapped snack cakes…… fucking hilarious.

  • Simple like ABC, 123

    “They probably won’t get over it until another black man makes an especially bad decision involving a white woman, OJ-style.”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    HAHAHA

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  • kedordu

    AND GANGSTER RAP MADE MJ CORNY . DEATHROW AND PAC . ACROSS THE WORLD ITS NOT MY OPINION I WAS THERE. AND MJ AINT GONNA SELL. DARKCHILD AND AKON ARE MAKING THE MUSIC . IF HE GOT WITH RAPHAEL SAADIQ ,SALAAM REMI , NEPTUNES ,TIMBO HE WOULD SELL 10MIL EASY . BUT HE IS/WAS TOTALLY LOST . ”JUSTIFIED” 11 OF THOSE TRACKS WERE FOR MJ . HE SAID NAH ILL PASS . JUSITN DID HIS BEST MJ IMPERSONATION ON THOSE AND NOW HE HAS A CLASSIC UNDER HIS BELT .

  • Pac’s name will live forever

    People will always remember Tupac. There’s more than a few billion people in this world that don’t use or give a damn about twitter. So sorry if Pac wasn’t a trending topic or whatever. Every website to do with Hip Hop (A few million) remembered Pac. Every Hip Hop fan (a few million more) remembered Pac. Every rapper influenced by Pac whether signed or independant remembered (Untold amount). Even If these kids running arouound today didn’t remember. I’m sure their older brothers/sisters/mothers/fathers, who were around during those days did.

    At the end of the day as long as Hip Hop is alive the name Tupac Shakur will always be heard. The Soulja Boy’s and the Drake’s of this world will be forgotten in 10 years time. Tupac will live on. You don’t sell 80 million records and counting to be forgotten.

    Peace!!!

  • Teddy

    kill yo self for this post don’t even call yourself hiphop call yourself a cracker bol

  • Justin

    The whole rip2pac#/tupac#/pac#/tupacshakur# thing has been banging all day on twitter Bol. What the hell are you talking about? Funnily enough 90% of the people leaving the msgs are young teenagers who were probably in diapers when Pac was bombing. That puts an end to the whole “Oh most kids of today probably don’t even care pac died today” argument. You don’t give the “Power of Tupac” enough credit. Even people that don’t know the face know the name. Even people that don’t know the name *if such exist* have seen the face on a t-shirt or poster. I can’t imagine him ever being forgotten. Not in the Hip Hop community anyway.

  • Pock Iz DED

    Fuck Tewpock.

  • illy

    check Dubccn Forum.They post allday everyday about Pac like he’s still alive.They call him Jesus over there ;-)

  • Malik

    Well shit considering every single hip hop publication ran 50 page articles for the first 10 years after he did each year, I’m a little 2Pac’d out as for as coverage goes. But I was never a Pac or Biggie fan outside a handful of songs for each. I’ll remember that Pac was important, but I’m not going back to listen to his music.

  • 2pac

    Im the shittiest rapper of all time. Only some kind of punk pussy motherfucka would listen to my wack ass albums.

  • Worley

    “the only reason to watch it was to be like, ‘hey, some chick who used to write for Vibe magazine circa 1993!’ Her skin is remarkably taut for someone who must be closing in on 50.”

    I know exactly who you are talking about. Old girl is 44. I think to myself “damn that looks like some seasoned coochie” everytime I see her and her melons.

  • Chilly Willy

    2Pac IS the embodiment of 90′s young poor angry black youth. He was not a role model. He did a lot of dumb nigga shit. He was a great rapper. He did a lot of questionable shit. BUT, above all that, he was a mirror. He showed the mainstream an aspect of America they didn’t wanna see in which a lot of people could relate. Equal parts party, bullshit and revolution. That is his real legacy.

    There is no musical comparison possible with Mike.

    Bol still manage to sneak a Murray Head reference in all this.

  • Kev

    Most celebrity deaths really only hit hard with the media on the 10/20/30/40/50/ect. year marks. Rock music magazines and websites didn’t do big “RIP Kurt Cobain” articles on the 14th anniversary of his death either, but I’m sure he’ll be on all their covers and front pages on the 20th. So will Pac and Big.

  • Anonymous

    “Well, 2Pac and Mike Tyson both raped chicks. Maybe that’s why they were friends,”

    “it’s Maya Angelou! I can’t believe she’s still alive. I thought she was in slavery.”

    HILARIOUS!!!!!

  • Hey

    Nobody likes Pac. Fact.

  • D-Rock

    Nigga, I forgot it was the anniversary of Pac’s death, but that doesn’t mean that I forgot about 2pac; I was listening to him just the other day. By the way Bol you fat bitch, 2pac didn’t rape anybody. As much as the cop’s and the state’s attorney hated Pac and wanted to put him away for 15 years, they couldn’t even convict him of rape (even with a jury full people who disliked and were scared of rowdy tattooed rappers). A rape kit was done, and they found absolutely no evidence of rape (no signs of forcible entry, no semen in or around her vag, etc). He was there that night with same people that he knew through your boy Biggie, and he wasn’t even in the room when the alleged incident occured (he was asleep in another room and she came out and started yelling, and he was like what the fuck is going on). The whole thing was a fucking set up by the same people who set him up to be robbed, that Biggie knew about, but was too afraid to say anything, because they were some actual real gangstas and Biggie knew what would happen if he did. Anyhow, just for the record, Pac did not rape anybody–that shit is the total opposite of his character anyway if you listend to Pac and weren’t such a bitch–which was the same thing the jury concluded in his trial. Pac was found guilty of “feeling” on the girl’s “buttocks” (the same girl who he didn’t even know, who came up to him ass first in a club grindin’ on him, and pulled his dick out (nullus) and started suckin it in the corner on the dance floor just weeks before). Look it up. That’s what he went to jail for and was convicted of, rubbing said woman’s ass, which is bullshit, because it’s safe to assume that it’s OK to rub her ass at that point, and most girls would expect it (but Bol wouldn’t know that, obviously). That whole fucking thing was a set up, which is what you happens when you get caught up with clown ass, cowardly hearted niggaz.

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  • Dj Flip

    My Bad, i think it’s a horrible Blog, Because there are a Ton of people that give a shit! All The Young kids want to know about Pac. Over here in Cali, We put It Down all The time, On his Anniversary, On 93.5 KDAY they dedicated a whole day of nothin but Tupac. It was Bomb, & showed Massive Respect To Pac. On Power 106 Everyday they have The Ten O’Clock Tupac. Meaning everyday at 10 they play a Pac Song. Ya’ll can say, “Yeah” “They Both Raped a Girl” Whatever! No one will ever Knock people out Like “Iron Mike” Did! & No one will have the influence That Pac had for people. You gotta understand, These are two Rose’s That Grew from the concrete. Real People making Real Dreams. When i Dj Parties, I still get Tupac Request. People gotta understand That Tupac was still a Young Man growing up. He did lot’s stupid shit, but who hasn’t. I’m just Bummed because he was Growing up To be a Man. RIP Tupac Shakur!! Thanks for all the Great Music!! As long as I’m alive! I Will Always Bump Tupac!! To The Haters!! Keep Hate’n!! F*#* All Ya’ll!!

  • kendrick lamar

    REMEMBER THIS THO..TUPAC WAS VERY YOUNG AN INTELLEGENT HE SPOKE ABOUT REAL LIFE THINGS THAT WE ALL CAN RELATE TO..NICKI MINAJ LIL WAYNE KANYE WEST JAY-S NOR EMINEM COULD EVER BE REALER THAN PAC..THEY CAN GET CLOSE BUT..PAC IS THE G.O.A.T

  • TupacShakurSaveUs

    Platinum after just 2 months in April 1996, and finally Diamond in June 1998 by the RIAA.

  • joseph

    are trying to be like tupac