Has the Kanye backlash gone too far?

Leave it to Mos Def to cause me to question my whole perspective on shit.

Yeah, his rap career has been in a more or less steady state of decline since the 1990s, which is almost two decades ago at this point, and yeah he got pwned by Christopher Hitchens on Real Time with Bill Maher, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Lest we forget, Mos Def is the one who invented the term tall Israeli. Or, if you want to be technical about it, Mos Def called Lyor Cohen a tall Israeli, and I pioneered the use of the term as a more general catchall for the people who really run the music business.

I was over at Vlad TV just now, seeing if they’d posted any more videos like this one, and I caught this clip where Mos is coming to the defense of Kanye. He was doing a show in Baltimore, and he mentioned that the next song he was about to do was produced by Kanye (like Rhymefest does before he does ” Brand New”), and the crowd erupted in boos. It was kinda amazing to see, having taken shots at Kanye since before it was all trendy. And it made me wonder if this was fallout from the Taylor Swift incident, or if this was just a group of salty underground heads who can’t stand Kanye, i.e. my kinda niggas. No fishsticks. Kanye’s whole thing used to be that he was the only rapper obsessed with material bullshit who still appealed to the underground crowd. Remember, he was the only ninja with a Benz and a backpack?

Mos Def was like, “Hold on a sec! It’s not like he slapped the bitch. All he did was voice an opinion that you were at home agreeing with. It may not have been at the most appropriate time, but it’s not like he didn’t apologize.” Keep in mind, I’m paraphrasing here from memory (my mind is sharper than a motherfucker, despite my lifestyle), but that’s more or less what he said verbatim. He really did call her a bitch. Then he went on to compare the outrage over Kanye’s stunt at the VMAs to the relative lack of outrage over Joe Wilson calling Obama a liar during the joint session of Congress, and that preacher who threatened to kill Obama, which I know they played on Stern a couple of weeks ago. Though for what it’s worth. Though for what it’s worth, I’m sure a huge crowd of black people would be unruly to say the least, if Joe Wilson for whatever reason decided to appear in front of a huge crowd of black people. I don’t even like Obama, and I’d slap the shit out of Joe Wilson on GP.

Mos Def might have a point. I can’t cosign the part about Beyonce having a better video than Taylor Swift, because I don’t like women with huge thighs, and I don’t like Beyonce’s music in general, and I’ve yet to see the video for “Single Ladies.” Plus, I heard one of the dancers in it is a tranny – or might be, like that track athlete from South Africa. And Taylor Swift was probably still in grade school when I was in college, when my knowledge of country music was at its peak. (Fun fact: Country videos are full of smokin’ hot, Midwestern-looking women.) But Mos Def was right about the fact that Kanye didn’t slap Taylor Swift or anything. He thought Beyonce got robbed, and he went onstage and said it. Isn’t that what hip-hop should be about, expressing your opinion, even if it upsets the tall Israelis? Why should I be against Kanye interrupting Taylor Swift any more than I’d be against KRS-One interrupting Kanye himself, except for the fact that the latter could never happen?

I’d almost jump to Kanye’s defense myself, except that I don’t like the way he went around apologizing. He apologized to Taylor Swift once on his blog, then he did it again, then she went on TV to say he hadn’t apologized to her in person, so he called her up and apologized. And I don’t know if I can respect a man who apologizes to a woman three times and he never even had sex with her. Once is bad enough. If two apologies don’t work, you might as well just slap her. She obviously thinks you’re some sort of monster – go ahead and give her a good reason to. No but really, Kanye could have played the aftermath of this incident better than he did. Especially since there’s growing evidence that MTV may have put him up to it. I heard on the Stern show the other day that the VMAs had their biggest audience since 2002, despite the recession. I finally got around to catching one of the umpteen reruns the other day, and I’m not sure if MTV went back and did some editing, but the camera angle seems to perfect for this to be a genuine, ODB-style stage crashing. And I read the other day on Drunken Stepfather that Kanye and Taylor Swift have the same agent.

You see how pissed off people are about this shit. Anytime you’ve got mofos at a Mos Def concert pissed about what happened to a teenage country singer, you know this shit is widespread. This might be one of those crimes white people can’t let go. Like OJ. They buried his ass under the jail, just for trying to get his shit back. They wouldn’t even let him make any money off that book about how he would have killed Ron and Nicole, if he did, in which case he wouldn’t have needed to get his shit back in the first place. See, that’s how they do: they make it so that you can’t make any money, then they bust you for stealing. In this case, some shit that already belonged to you. Kanye’s got a tour this fall with Lady Gaga, and I’m already hearing stories about dates being canceled. If MTV really did fuck him over like that, he needs to let the world know. It might save him from ending up in jail or some shit. You know he has a tendency to flip out on the stalkerazzi. He got off easy last time, but that was before he interrupted a white woman while she was trying to talk.

  • Vakuru Chaivo

    The track athlete from South Africa said she would slap the shit out of Yeezy if he tried that VMA stunt with her medal – off point – but i am just saying!!

  • capcobra

    the kanye incident was only a social experiment to see how quick the hip hop community and black people can turn on thier own…and we failed…even cyberspace niguz took taylor swift side…damn.

    • Mr. North

      Excellent point. WE always fall for it. I felt offended when my own people called him and ignorant ni66a. SMH who cares.

    • Enlightened

      I disagree. I love my Black people and I’m always defending and pointing out where i see bullshit…

      It’s niggas like Kanye West that are a huge part of the problem. We don’t need a Black man that is that high profile and has that much influence doing shit like that.

      Fuck the disrespectful part. He did it in a clown ass, immature way.
      If that nigga had taken the microphone and made a coherent statement ok. But getting up there talking about “BEYONCE HAD ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS OF ALL TIME” and handing the mic back.
      Get the fuck outta here.
      Walking around on the red carpet and in the show with a bottle of Henn.
      Get the fuck outta here.
      Where was all that sweet ass champagne and shit them niggas usually be advertising?

      I don’t really ride with the NAACP for a number of reasons (I don’t see NO presence in the Black community being the main one), but the Image Awards are one of the best things going for Black people.

      It’s voted on by people who actually listen to Black music and watch Black movies all year around instead of just at awards time or the “pop” acts.

      Black people need to cherish those type of awards more and create some more of our own. Stop crying over punk ass Grammy’s, Emmys, Oscars, and MTV awards. Fuck that shit. They don’t love our music or movies and that’s actually their prerogative.

      You don’t see any of them crying because they don’t get a BET award.

      Fuck that nigga. I hope he gets the vacation he spoke about and gets some sanity in his life. He can parade around here all proud with his bald-head white broad and think he’s an American hero if he wants to. Hopefully, they just showed him what they think about him.

      We didn’t turn on one of our own. That nigga turned on his people a long time ago.

      • Mr. North

        You have a valid point as well. I’m just personally tired of people saying he’s an ignorant ni66a or is acting ni66erish in my opinion he def. does a lot of things that are not associate with being a ni66er per se but an Asshole and has Insecurity Problems which are a categories in themselves and there are plenty of them of every race just like haters.

        • capcobra

          kanye always made outrageous statements..so what was so different now?

        • Enlightened

          Nothing is different. I told somebody on here before (it might have been you) that they were right that it’s no different (except for the white girl part).

          I always called him a bitch and said I didn’t like his stunts, so I’m just saying what I’ve been saying.

          But you’re right – if somebody didn’t have a problem with his other acts, they shouldn’t have a problem with this one.

  • BIGSCREECH

    Any award show that allows him in the venue does it at their own risk, and the award show should be held liable for his outburst. They should have a Kanye Clause in the contract, or have to sign a waiver before he gets clearance to attend.

  • Phillmatic

    You don’t even have to be cynical and bitter (as I obviously am) to realise the whole thing was staged.

    Taylor Swift looks vulnerable and heartbroken and reminds people of her young age.

    Kanye West looks like an arsehole, gets his name in the press (more than he expected) and has a chance to redeem himself with several hollow apologies.

    Beyonce gets to look like a scented princess who isn’t the diva she’s portrayed to be.

    And, most impotantly, the TIs at Mtv get shitloads of advertising $s during the repeats.

    Everyone’s a winner… except for common sense.

  • $ykotic/Don McCaine

    “Hold on a sec! It’s not like he slapped the bitch. All he did was voice an opinion that you were at home agreeing with. It may not have been at the most appropriate time, but it’s not like he didn’t apologize.”

    “Then he went on to compare the outrage over Kanye’s stunt at the VMAs to the relative lack of outrage over Joe Wilson calling Obama a liar during the joint session of Congress, and that preacher who threatened to kill Obama…”

    Just like Kanye supposedly picked the easier “target”, so are many others.

    I don’t see anyone calling out MTV for allegedly “f**king with our intelligence”(stirring up controversy)…

    Co-sign capcobra.

  • HNIC

    “Though for what it’s worth. Though for what it’s worth…”

    Did Bol just repeat the same sentence twice, after proclaiming that his “mind is sharper than a motherfucker, despite my lifestyle”?

    Hilarious!

  • http://Pierzy11@gmail.com Pierzy

    I used to really like Mos Def but the more he talks, the more ridiculous and out-of-touch he sounds. He is type of person that screams at you for not agreeing with him.

    As far as his defense of Kanye, it sounds very close to Jigga’s and we saw what Ron Mexico did with that…

    • Detroit P

      Ay No offense, cus I don’t want you to take this the wrong way as if it’s some personal attack on you, but Get Off Ron Mexicos dick..before he wrote his blog you were cosigning Jay-Z, now afterwards you jumpin on Ron’s dick as if it were God speaking to you himself…No offense to Ron but he was on some bullshit and wasn’t doin nothing but fulfilling his quota for a Friday Post…or maybe it’s just cus you’re white…I wouldn’t wanna make it a race thing tho(sarcasm)…whether you agree with them or not, to act like Mos Def’s and Jay-Z’s statements had no validity is maaad suspect. Have a nice day.

      • http://Pierzy11@gmail.com Pierzy

        Wow…where to begin…?

        First off, I don’t remember “co-signing” Jay on what he said. I believe I wrote something agreeing with him very sarcastically. If you didn’t pick up the factiousness of it, oh well. Maybe I should write (sarcasm) afterwards like you did.

        Secondly, why are you telling me Ron’s blog was “on some bullshit”? I didn’t write it and I was far from the only one that agreed with it.

        Third, I guess since I’m White, that automatically makes me a fan of Ron Mexico? I’ll make sure to bring that up while we’re all eating Thanksgiving dinner. “Since most of us at this table are White, I’m assuming you’ve all been reading Ron Mexico’s blogs…”

        Finally, I thought Mos Def’s statement was flat-out ridiculous. Just because you disagree that makes it suspect? Nah, I don’t think so…

        And, by the way, I had a great day.

        • Detroit P

          Headline: Jay-Z Comes to Kanye’s Defense, “He Didn’t Kill Anybody”
          —————————————-
          HollyHood says:

          Thats real talk. Build a bridge and get over that shit.

          Reply

          September 18th, 2009
          at 10:39 am

          Pierzy says:

          Co-Sign

          Reply
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          The fact that you lied about this kills all your other points(that and the fact that I don’t know what you’re talking about.

          Never said you wrote Ron’s blog, wasn’t attacking you with that, I was aiming at Ron with that one, I just called you out for switching positions and hopping on his dick as soon as he said something(that’s not cool man)

          The race thing I mentioned was talking about how this country has turned this topic into a race thing, and that your Whiteness might have something to do with you not being able to find the slightest bit of validity in Mos or Jay’s statements(WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT(in caps cus you seemed to have missed this the first time i said it)), that’s not to say that your whiteness is the causation of your reasoning but there may be some correlation there.

          And a good day to you too sir.

        • http://Pierzy11@gmail.com Pierzy

          Actually, I was agreeing that people need to get over it but that doesn’t mean what Jay AND Mos said is intelligent or enlightened.

          I agreed with that comment, not with what they said. I think people need to get over it but it’s still not right what he did.

          Open your mind and get off me.

  • geico lizard

    Some of this Kanye outrage is still leftover from what he said about Bush after Hurricane Katrina. Taylor Swifts album would have gone diamond by now if all the pissed people were really her fans.

  • BIGSCREECH

    She’s sold almost 16,000,000 world wide.

  • Brooklyn

    the shit went too far when you had white folks on the ‘net calling him all kinds of “niggers” and “monkeys” and a myriad of other colorful racial slurs that only caucasoids could come up with. what he did was fucked up, that’s apparent but it isn’t surprising because we know how this nigga do. one reason why people were more outraged over this than they were the joe wilson/obama thing was because there was more news coverage on the vma incident than on the wilson/obama incident and another reason is that a white man calling a black man a liar isn’t as outrageous to society as a black man snatching an award out the hands of some southern white girl. they’re both fucked up incidents, yeezy and wilson are both assholes, and somebody needs to knock both of them motherfuckers out.

    • HNIC

      Co-Sign! Real shit!

  • AZ40

    you don’t think both those interruptions were staged(his and lil mama, who works for MTV), c’mon you know they got better security than that cuz they ain’t gon let no unknow black people just run up in the venue let alone on stage. And the situation was overblown b/c she was a “defenseless little white girl” and you know we got’s to protect them “OH Lawdy”

    • $ykotic/Don McCaine

      “I don’t see anyone calling out MTV for allegedly “f**king with our intelligence”(stirring up controversy)…”

  • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grands

    If Mos gets his credit for calling Cohen a “tall Israeli”, I want mine for saying “douche nozzle” more than any Black dude, on or offline.

    • $ykotic/Don McCaine

      Douche-nozzle©

      By Tony Grands coming soon to Wiki…

      • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grands

        $yk!

        Thank you, sir…..

        Maybe he should just watch some ‘White Shadow’ & smoke some pot.

  • hate

    i was the first post last week on one of these kanye blogs. i can’t remember exactly what i wrote but it was something like:

    FUCK KANYE FOR APOLOGIZING AND BOWING DOWN TO THE TI’S. AND FUCK THAT LIL WHITE DEVIL AND ALL THE RACISTS SHE REPRESENTS.

    needless to say most of the other 40 comments made after me was all hate directed toward your boy “hate”(me).

    you people still talkin bout that shit?

    you buggin.

    fuck kanye

    give ghost a beat you fishdick faggot

  • John Brown

    I’m really happy for you, Bol. And, I’mma let you finish. But, Ron had one of the best blogs of all time with ‘Breaking News: Kanye West Didn’t Kill Anybody!’. One of the best blogs of all time!

    • HNIC

      Are you the same cat from “The White Rapper Show”?

  • c. gabi

    “it ain’t like he slapped the bitch”.

    BUT IT IS like he slapped the bitch…

    HELLOOOO?! Are some of y’all that colorblind and blown to not see the dynamics of that entire situation.

    I’m not trying to be all deep or nothin, but, I mean damn. That shit he pulled plays into the fears and preconceived notions that White people have of Black men.

    This nigga, full of liquor, jumps on the stage, gullies the mic up off her, makes a backhanded compliment and damn near berates this precious, Country, blonde hair white chick on national, LIVE tv in front of millions.

    U think that shit would’ve rocked 50 yrs ago. Your boy ‘Ye would be looking like some strange fruit somewhere…and TRUST, the outrage wouldn’t be anywhere near what it is.

    The fact of the matter is, what he did was wrong. He’s more of a bitch than a bitch. Beyonce’s video really ISN’T one of the greatest videos of all time (or ever). He needs therapy…I’m sorry he lost his Mom, but real talk, he ain’t the first nigga to lose his Mom.

    • Enlightened

      Yep

  • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grands

    Everybody has an opinion on what happened from whatever their vantage point is. Outside of Hip Hop though, it was just something to talk about aside from all the political/social bullshit they’re beating us in the head with.

    If it wasn’t for all the recession & healthcare propaganda & all that it respectively entails, it wouldn’t have been nearly as important. “America” found a reason to bitch & complain about something else, & grabbed that bull by it’s horns.

    It all boils down to a time & place for everything. Kanye wasn’t wrong per se, because no one’s opinion can be deemed right or wrong.

    It’s just a matter of time & place. Btw, Jay’s album isn’t all that bad. Just saying…..

    • Detroit P

      I think I co-sign everything you said

    • $ykotic/Don McCaine

      “And my man Tony Grands had to regulate…”

  • http://www.ronmexicocity.com Ron Mexico

    this shit ain’t about his opinion, which he is entitled to. just like we all have on these blogs every day.

    it’s about doing something that was both inappropriate and disrespectful, which he did. he transcended merely voicing opinion when he got up on stage, said fuck you to taylor, the awards committee and basically every artist and fan there. it was disruptive and yet another slap in the face to whoever does not agree with the almighty kanye.

    i’ve never even seen taylor’s video and could give a fuck about that or really any VMA. i didn’t even watch the shit this year. i very well could agree with kanye on beyonce deserving it… not on that best video of all time shit, tho. that’s nuts.

    and yes, it’s wrong regardless of which artist is on stage at the time.

    now if he said what he said in an interview within his right, this would be a non-issue.

  • http://Daily-Math.com Combat Jack

    ^”See, that’s how they do: they make it so that you can’t make any money, then they bust you for stealing. In this case, some shit that already belonged to you.”

    Dunno how all these other fruits interpret this, but from where I sit, seems like you’re headed in the direction of becoming a civil rights leader or some other type of black leader against injustice. No Malcolm X rubbing talcum powder up on some old white man’s knuts.

    • $ykotic/Don McCaine

      Yo CJ that drop on you v. Lyor is fire.

      You, dP, & eskay deserve any “award” accolades given to you “Internet Celebrities”.

      PEACE

  • Big Willie

    Fuck Kanye

  • http://j-mace.deviantart.com Shawty J

    I don’t think MTV staged this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. I’ve been to MTV several times since the incident and MTV has been pimping the hell out of it. They’re using the incident as a draw to watch the award show online, in fact it’s the highlight. Which doesn’t say much about MTV it’s practically and admission that there was nothing else on the award show worth watching (and excluding the Jay-Z/Alicia Keys performance there wasn’t). I think MTV didn’t realize until after the fact how big of a deal it was and decided to cash in.

  • 3rd eye clear

    Racial Divide Is Huge!!

    What you expect after only 42 years!!

  • caino

    l find it crazy that this shit is sitll headline news nearly 2 weeks after the fact !! It was the VMA’s for christ sakes!

    And only in America can they make it out to be a race thing!!

  • macdatruest

    ALL NIGGAS IS STUPID!!!!! I SEEN AN ARTICLE THAT SAID “IS KANYE WEST AN AMERICAN DISSIDENT?” I WAS LIKE, OH FUCK NAW!!! SO I CALL THE PRESIDENT, THE HEAD OF STATE, A LIAR IN AN OUTBURST ABOUT THE MOTHERFUCKIN FUTURE OF THE NATION–MAN WOMAN AND CHILD BLACK AND WHITE- LIKE JOE WILSON DID….AND ITS ALL GOOD. JOE WILSON SAID HE APLOGIZES FOR THE OUTBURST BUT HE FEELS HE OWES NO APOLOGY. IT’S ALL GOOD RIGHT??? BLACK PEOPLE BARELY CARED AT ALL. WHY BECAUSE A NIGGER DONT JUMP LESS THE WHITE MAN SAY SO.

    KANYE ON THE OTHER HAND, HE SOMEHOW ENVOKED BLACK FOLKS EMOTIONS WHEN HE INTERRUPTED TAYLOR SWIFT. BUT TO ME IT DOESNT HAVE A FEEL LIKE, “FUCK KANYE HE SHOULDNT HAVE DID THAT TO TAYLOR SWIFT THAT WAS FLAT OUT WRONG” BECAUSE MOST BLACK PEOPLE NEVER EVEN KNEW TAYLOR SWIFT BEFORE DUDE RAN UP ON HER WECKLESS OFF HENNY(STAGED, I AGREE)

    BUT TOO ME AND TO WHITE PEOPLE IT COMES OFF ASS, “SHHHHHHHH!!!! HUSH YO MOUFIS KANYE!! M-M-M-MASSA GONE GET US ALL, YOU DIS’PECT THAT LUL OL’ WHITE GUH! YOU MAKIN US ALL LOOK BAD. SHAME US ALL! WE GOT TO DO EVERTHANG RIGHT! EVEN IF THEY NEVA ACCEPT US WE GOTTA SAY YESSUM! WAAAAADE IN THE WAAAAHTUH!”

    AND WHITE PEOPLE LOVE WHEN WE DIVIDED AND WHEN WE BEAT OURSELVES UP. THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GROUP US ALL WHEN ITS BAD, AND PRAISE THE ONE WHEN ITS SOMETHING GOOD. BLACK PEOPLE JUST FAILED. OH YEA, THANKS OBAMA FOR CALLING KANYE AN ASSHOLE AND CARRESSING JOE WILSON’S BALLS AFTER HE HOED YOU! BLACK POWER FAILURE….

  • macdatruest

    on a sidenote I think racial tolerance in Amerikkka right now is shaky at best. It seem like white folks is getting real mouthy and turning everything into a race thing ever since Obama got in office. So yea just know that if a race violence nationwide jump off, pop culture is NOT gonna save it. We did we are the world already…and I dont give a fuck what Kanye did aint nobody bout to disrescpect me over the fuckin MTV awards. Niggas aint got no business on mTV anyway…