BLOG: T-Pain Vs. Nate Dogg Vs. Akon

I don’t love or hate T-Pain. I just take him for what he is: a freakin’ hook machine.

I’m not looking to him for substance or octaves, but catchy hollow melodies. I remember seeing his funny-looking ass barefoot (I think) in the “I’m Sprung” video three years ago. People complained about his Vocoder left and right, but it didn’t bother me for some reason. I was just indifferent…And then R. Kelly’s “I’m A Flirt” and Pain’s own “Buy U A Drank” came out.

Man, I’ve done some of my best “both in the club singing off key” to “Buy U A Drank.” From that point on, it just seemed like T. Pizzle kept coming with monstrous hooks, especially on other folks’ records.  Me and a few of the staffers were talking Pain earlier today and I thought of something. The man has recorded so many cameos, I was wondering whether he already out-recorded what Nate Dogg has done (in 16 years) since coming out in 2005. Not so much. According to the every “trustworthy” wikipedia, Nate (Nate Dogg Discography) has recorded 192 guest appearances while Pain (T-Pain Discography) has 117.

It really doesn’t matter in the end, though. If I’m giving one of these dudes 50k off the budget, it better be a Billboard Hot 100 No.1 investment. But interestingly, despite providing timeless hooks for titanic singles like Ludacris’ “Area Codes,” Dr. Dre’s “Next Episode” and Warren G’s “Regulate,” Nate’s only No. 1 came with 50 Cent’s “21 Questions.”

What about Pain? Well, he can’t sing, can’t dance, can’t dress, can’t spell and he’s apparently no Mariah Carey either. The self-proclaimed “Ring Leader” has three No. 1 singles, including “Buy U A Drank,” Chris Brown’s “Kiss Kiss” and Flo Rida’s “Low.” Those other records may have charted as high as No. 7, (Kanye West’s “The Good Life”) but they never reached the top.

Meanwhile, Akon, the other hook machine, has two number ones: “Don’t Matter” and “I Wanna Luv U.” But T-Pain apparently isn’t going anywhere. I never really knocked dude, but I’d be lying if I thought he’d be dropping his third album (Thr33 Ringz) on November 11th, 2008. He definitely struck me as flash in the pan. But now, I’m convinced. Pain probably won’t be around in 2021, which would make his a16-year veteran like Nate Dogg is today, but he’ll be here for a few more years. Furthermore, he’s already done enough to be crowned the hookman G.O.A.T.

What do you guys think? Does Nate still hold the crown? Should Akon be looked at more closely? My money’s on the Ring Leader. -Jackpot


  • Juzzy

    Nate wins hands down!!!!

    • hurryUPnBUY

      nate dogg is still the man but where is he?? it seems he kinda fell off after his drug incident.

      he’s still king cuz tpain or akon cant ever last as long as nate did, doing his thing and staying relevant.

      and i think akon’s got one up on tpain. tpain’s got more features but akon gets more play off his own songs.

      • RMB_MG

        He Had A Stroke…

      • xlwhite

        i read online that nate dogg had a stroke or two in past couple years, dunno for sure but hes definately the best and a classic/west coast icon.
        akon is second and it was funny that his song on curtis was one of 50′s hardest and best songs as of late, had me thinking akon is ‘gangsta’ and 50 went pop(oh wait, he did).
        Would t pain even be famous right now if he didnt have that vocoder? i think not

    • DonCapo

      T-pain needs shit to make his fuckin voice! so Nate Dogg EAzy!!

  • http://www.ronmexicocity.com Ron Mexico

    cuz iiiiiiiiiiiiii have neverrrrrrrr meeeeeet a giiiiiiirrrrrrrrrlllllll…

  • los-souljahman

    nobody does it better than Nate Dogg.

  • Pierzy

    Nate Dogg will always hold the crown until someone comes along that is the major hook-machine for a label powerhouse like Death Row was…

    • squadwildin

      Agreed….T-Paine=pop music. Nate Dogg did gangsta music. Its never gone be #1 but its more respected

      The Next Episode>Buy You A Drink hands down any day all ya’ll niggas know it.

      Akon got a little bit of both mixes. Boss’s Life by Snoop Dogg feat. Akon was good, better than Nate Dogg’s version but you cant take the crown away from Nate Dogg just yet

  • og bobby j

    Nate is the originator….Akon and pain can bless a hook tho…

    TTHHHHAAAAAT I LOVEd IN THE WHOLE WIDE WWOOOOOORLDDD – i see you Ron

  • That’s What’s Up

    Regulate and The Next Episode. I’ll put that up against anything Akon and T-Pain ever did or will do. “Hold up waaait, to them nygha’s who be thinkin’ we soft, we don’t plaaaay, we gone rock it still wheels fall off………….” I’m about to rock that shyt now!!

  • Canto

    NONE OF THESE DUDES!!!!! The hook King is MAX B!!! OWWWWWWWW

  • Warren G

    Nate Dogg all day baby!!!

  • http://www.theroyaltytakeover2.blogspot.com Yoda

    Nate will always be a personal favorite, but I gotta say T-Pain is the dude with the hooks as of right now. Nate got classic hooks doe, so he’ll always have the throne.

    Akon has fell off with the hooks in recent years to me…the last one I really fucked with was “Soul Survivor”.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com jackpot

    Damn! I forgot about “Ain’t No Fun.” Nate does have a lot of classic hooks, but I think Pain charts more.

  • capcobra

    t.pain…..all day…..shout out to nate dogg tho’….all these 50 cent/pharrell ass niguz on the mic fucked up his hustle…caused a nigga to have a stroke over that shit.

  • http://xxl.co.uk SCRAPZ

    Nate Doog still has da crown hands down!!!

    Akon & T-pain do more popish songs but nate dogg does more hip-hop/street shit. Nate Dogg has dat kinda raw soundin voice. Akon & T-pain have da more soft soundin voice dat wud be more likeable to a wider audience. and wud evn sing bout real street ppl can relate to.

    • http://xxl.co.uk scrapz

      and nate dogg wud evn sing bout real shit ppl can relate to.

      My badd

  • http://xxl.co.uk SCRAPZ

    Nate Doog still has da crown hands down!!!

    Akon & T-pain do more popish songs but nate dogg does more hip-hop/street shit. Nate Dogg has dat kinda raw soundin voice. Akon & T-pain have da more soft soundin voice dat wud be more likeable to a wider audience. and nate dogg wud evn sing bout real shit ppl can relate to.

  • ri067963

    Yo, I am glad to see that the majority of ppl on here recoginze that Nate Dogg is the true legend here. I doubt that T-pain or Akon’s songs will hold up even 5 years from now. Their songs will sound dated, meanwhile Nate has produced nothing but classic material, regardless of how many No. 1 hits he has had.

  • monster

    Nate, get well soon.

  • Justice4All

    At this point in music, who cares anymore.

  • Justice4All

    At this point in music, who cares anymore….

    • http://1290wmcs.com The Party Killa

      CoSign^^^^ Ima side wit the OG I grew up on Nate Dogg!!

  • kng

    nate dogg all the way, by a landslide.

  • ErvGotti85

    From songs like Lay Low he did for Snoop when he was on No Limit, to the underrated hook he did on Eminem’s Til I Collapse, Nate Dogg is still the King hands down.

  • kEITH

    nate is and was the man! t-pain is PUSS! akon is tha man too!

  • Emperor Doom

    Nate. T-Pain and Akon simply can’t compare. Nate is and always will be that dude.

  • oskamadison

    Nate Dogg could get in an accident and fuck up his voice like the D.O.C. and still dust either one of them. One thing that separates Nate from Pain and ‘Kon is soul. Nate can really sing and I ain’t never heard him use that Auto-Tune shit. “Ain’t No Fun” will roast both of their entire catalogs, dolo. Nate comes from an era where music was made to last. All this shit droppin’ now wouldn’t make it past the first week’s sales reports.

  • Albert

    how can u even compare Nate Dog n those homo’s??? t-pain n akon r’nt even rappers. they’re like the pop of hip-hop. the ppl who like that shit r the same ppl who like justin timberlake, n they dont like method man. none of akons or t-pains songs can even compare with “regulate”. that song was so preme. thats like comparing soulja boy to cahmillionaire, wu-tang or lil wayne

  • http://www.incilin.blogspot.com Incilin

    Three singers, and only one can actually sing. Who you think my money’s on?

    • BIGNAT

      YEAH SO WHO YOU PICKING AKON IS THE ONE WHO CAN REALLY SING. NATE DOGG CAN KINDA SING AND T-PAIN WELL YOU KOW WHAT HE CAN DO.

  • J Dillz

    You don’t even have to ask that question, DAMN IT IS SO CLEAR THAT NATE DOGG IS THE MASTER OF THE HOOK…C’MON HE WINS HANDS DOWN NOBODY IS FUCKING WITH HIS ABILITY TO SING A HOOK. NATE DOGG IS STRAIGHT CLASSIC MATERIAL, T-Pain & Akon are just temporary and following trends.NATE DOGG IS A BEAST!

  • J Dillz

    NATE DOGG IS THE ONLY ONE WORTH MENTIONING!

  • El Tico Loco

    Nate Dogg all day. But Sleepy Brown gets, well-slept on.

  • El Tico Loco

    Where’s Sleepy Brown people be sleeping on Sleepy Brown.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mc585 By a LAndslideee

    YOOOOO

    NOOOOBOODDDDYYYYYYY
    DOES It BETTTTEEEERRRRRRRRRRR
    THEY COME CUM CLOSER THEN CLOSE-
    YEAHhheahhhhhhhh–lol
    ORIGINALLLL
    THEY NEVER COULD BE-EEyeeehhhhh
    —-WOW–HE gOT aLL THESE FAGGOTZ By A LANDSLIDE HOMIE–THink about it–NATE’S SHT get the crowddd poppin””–HE tells bitches n niggaz —that hes in the house–bitches grab they purse niggaz grab they ballz..lol…There’s a hundred Akon n Tpain sht that i would skip–including hitz–not Nate my niggaz–game recognize game

  • BIGNAT

    MAN FUCK THERE IS NO CONTEST NATE DOGG ALL THE WAY.

  • DV8

    Nate Dogg is a legend. T-Pain and Akon will never make music anywhere near the classics Nate Dogg has been a part of. I will admit T-Pain is the hook man of the moment out shining the guy who signed him.

  • escobar9300

    Fool PLEASE. You need to stay away from those rocks if you actually think T Pain has standing over Nate Dogg, and to a lesser extent Akon. Pain has had some bangers dont get me wrong, but in 5 years nobody is going to remember this dude. Nate is etched into hip hop history and nobody is even close to Nate on the hook game. Get your mind right big homie.

  • balaramesh

    nate doggs has so many hooks than can EASILY kill either of their careers.

    realistically, do you think we would have heard of t-pain in the 90′s or early 2000′s?!?

  • JArrrra831

    I think what you have to keep in mind when judging these type of things is which song are you gonna be singing to five, ten, fifteen years from now. I don’t think T-pain tracks will be remembered as classics ten years from now, at least not as many as nate dogg. Akon might have a better chance, but won’t get close.

    NATE is the HOOK MASTER IN HIP HOP, DAMMIT!!!!!!!

    Favorite Nate Dogg Colabos:

    Dr. Dre-Xplosive
    Warren g-Game Don’t Wait
    Snoop-Ain’t No Fun
    WSC-Gangsta Nation
    Xzibit-My Name
    2Pac-All About You

  • http://www.justice.gov.za GO-Getta’

    1st time i heard Akon hook on Styles P joint “Locked Up”,i was hooked ya dig?

    T-pain had been everywhere lately & that’s always a good look.

    Nate Dogg aint no otha’ this dude is awesum,the crown is still intact on his head.

  • http://efhjf.com nate

    Nate DoGG!!!!!!!!!!!

    fuck these other hoes ass pop singers!!!

  • LBDII

    SHE EVEN LICKED MY BALLS

  • grant ny

    nate dogg is a legend and is the best in thier careers up to now, but what he doing at the moment, ignore how stupid t pain looks, hes a genius hook wise, more creative in my oponion, nate comes the same on every one he does, t- pain has the crown stop being fucking ignorant and living in the past, nates nothing without DRE OR SNOOP.

  • http://pimpinpens.blogspot.com enzo

    nate dogg

  • giantstepp

    I fucks wit the pain but that old deathrow sound which nate was a huge part of is classic shit! no denying that the Row ran the game at once and Nate was there banging shit out! as far as the Row has fallen, never to rise again, they produced staight BANGERS which are classics. Get well Nate Dogg!

  • Ali

    thats all Nate, u cant even compare….Akon has the crown now but its like he is a prodigy….Nate had the torch & passed it….Pain? Pain is 4 ppl who Akon rejected lol

  • Smel

    If Nate Dogg wasn’t havin so many health problems, he would probably be widening his guest spot lead in Snoop’s home studio right now…

    Get Well Soon Nate!!!

  • west up

    nate dogg had two strokes in the past couple of years .. his health aint all that .. thats why you see the lack in guest spots lately from him .. plus ….. HE was holdin back alot of material so he could sound “fresh” on detox (whenever that drops) ….

  • MC

    NATE!!!!!!

  • http://www.xxlmag.com 615banga

    i think it depends on the type of record and the artist..like for example..if its a west coast artist or a veteran artist..put nate on that shit..but if its a club record or southern record get tpain..and akon is the shit period u can put him on anything

  • sthxdnn

    dude nate has the g’est voice in the game..there aint one song by him thats bad..he is the king of singing to G-Funk beats..he needs to come back out and make mo records

  • teddy

    you forgot r-kelly

  • Vicious Seiger

    I can’t lie Nate Dogg is still the man and to see him in Head of State as the singing narrator just cements his status as an Icon in Hip Hop. He may not be Marvin or Luthor but his vocals has made so many songs so much more memorable maybe he should be on Vh1 Hip Honors 2009.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mc585 MC

    No bodyyyyy
    doesn’t ity betteerrrrrrrrr
    they can cum closer then close
    yeaheahhhhh
    original they never could beeeeeee

  • btrott

    hit was sure…
    but nobody is fucking w/ devin the dude
    “what a job”
    “fo sho’”
    “fuck faces”
    “i just wanna fuck you”
    “baby phat”
    “somebody’s gotta do it”
    “doobie ashtray”
    “see what i can pull”

  • droopey

    T-Pain is a monster. Ill be dancing to Buy You A Drank when im 90.

  • FlapJack

    I don’t get why nate has to be the king..maybe because he couldn’t do shit else.. both akon and t-pain is a lot more creative with the melodies..and they producing are they not? Pharrel, Sleepy Brown, Dre of Cool & Dre and Cee-lo are up there.. Who has the monster hook out of all of them? Akon – We takin over, hands down..

  • Esoteric

    Hands Down… It’s the dog- It’s not even a contest with T-Pain. He cannot sing- at all. T-Pain sings about as good as Kanye West. What’s the next debate? Who’s the best rapper alive, Jay-Z or Lil Wayne. This site is a fucking joke. This blog is a fucking joke.

    The writers for XXL are complete douche bags and there is too much ignorance within these blogs to want to come back. I do because I love hip-hop and there really is no other place to go. No place for real Hip-hop heads to call home. Just an oasis for wanna be gangsters and T-Wayne dick riders.

    Fuck T-pain

    Fuck Lil’ Wayne

    Fuck XXL

    XXL is one issue away from being scratched. There’s some dope writing for you editors. Eat a dick.

  • jovan mitchell

    fuck droopey for that bullshit ass comment someone should beat the shit out of you for saying that garbage ass shit.everybody on here know the answer to that dumb ass question.and fuck flapjack too pancake ass name both of y’all sound like some bitches saying that shit.

    • FlapJack

      Jovaaaaan… seriously.. Jovaaaaan.
      LOUDER!: Jovaaaaan!
      I think I’ll keep my pankake ass name, thank you very much.

      PS. I saw you shakin that ass in the Miss Honey-video, Jovan..

  • 4mat

    the reason why t-pain and akon had number one songs today is because hip hop is so much bigger today, if hip hop was that big back then
    every one of Nate’s singles would have been charted top ten