When The Fuck Did Bad Boy Fall Off?!?

So we were in the barber shop this weekend contemplating Bad Boy’s run as a label. You know Puff used to say “I thought I told ya that we won’t stop” so much, I actually started to believe dude. Jokes on me huh? I mean I’m far from a hater but Day 26 and Danity Kane just ain’t my shit. And while Puff always had a roster of dope rappers (respect due to Ness and Aasim), why he doesn’t put them out is confusing to me. Still, despite their current positioning in the game Bad Boy had one of the greatest runs of any hip-hop label. But when exactly did the house that Big built fall the fuck off? Some would say the label died when Notorious did (right Jackpot?), but I beg to differ.

I won’t front when Biggie got murdered I counted Bad Boy out, but Puff still managed to put out a mix of both radio hits and street bangers. Here are 10 of the dopest Bad Boy songs A.B. (aka After Big). –Rob the Music Ed

** Before you start bitching about where’s Lil Kim, she wasn’t actually signed to Bad Boy. I’m also not counting Yung Joc (one because I don’t personally dig his music and two because he is really a Block Ent. Artist, Puffy just piggybacked that deal).

10. “Ready” – Black Rob: The first single off of Robbie O’s sophomore album was criminally slept-on. Scram Jones’ rolling military drum track was the perfect compliment to BR’s gruff vocal tone. And the lyrics were on point too (“I’m the up top gangsta, I’m the star in the hood/One of the few motherfuckers that ain’t scared of Suge“).

9. “We’ll Always Love Big Poppa” – The LOX: L.O.X’s proper debut single definitely struck a sentimental chord after Frank White’s untimely death. While Puff’s “I’ll Be Missing You,” ruled the pop charts, Kiss, Sheek and Styles made the thugs cry.

8. “Bad Boyz” – Shyne: Before Shyne became rap’s favorite convict (sorry Akon); he was hip-hop’s most hated. His vocal similarities to the Notorious one drew angst amongst rap circles and there were serious doubts as to whether or not dude would pop off. However, this Barrington Levy-assisted heat rock was undeniably ill. Guess we gotta thank Nicky Barnes for hittin’ his moms.

7. “Special Delivery” – G.Dep: Remember the collective hip-hop gasp when Puff signed the kid from Gangstarr’s “The Mall.” I can’t front I didn’t understand that one either, but when it was all said and done G Deputy’s debut was a solid one with “Special Delivery” ringing off crazy- oh yeah the remix was ill too, shout to Ghostface and Keith Murray!

6. “I Dare You” – Black Rob: This one was a NYC street classic. The menacing track and A&R Harve Pierre’s singing hook were insane. I couldn’t believe Puff pushed Rob’s release date back after this joint dropped, but then again it forced BR back into the studio to record “Whoa.” Diddy was right, I was wrong.

5. “24 Hours to Live” – Ma$e: Folks forgot, but before “P. Diddy made him pretty” the cat formerly known as Murder Ma$e was a pretty good rapper with tons of street respect. This concept track off of his Harlem World debut featured The Lox, Black Rob and DMX and once again proved that Bad Boy can churn out club hits and street bangers with equal vigor.

4. “Let’s Get It” – P. Diddy: Actually this was originally a G.Dep solo cut before Puff jacked it for his 2nd album The Saga Continues… That’s why the track had 5 verses. The song’s video also brought the Harlem Shake to the world for better or for worse.

3. “Money, Power, Respect” – The Lox: “If You Think I’m Jiggy” has been a running joke in hip-hop since it dropped in ’98. Truth be told that song could’ve single-handedly killed the Lox’s career if it wasn’t for their follow-up single “Money, Power, Respect.” The DMX and Lil’ Kim features helped, but L.O.X. held their own on this one.

2. “Whoa” – Black Rob: During an interview with 50 Cent back in my SCRATCH Magazine days (R.I.P.) Curtis named-dropped BR’s “Whoa” as a beat that every rapper wish they had back when it dropped in ’99 (much like Curtis’ “I Get Money” beat in ’07). This Buckwild produced SMASH was an important chapter in Bad Boy’s history, proving that Big and Puff weren’t the only platinum rappers on the label. That’s right BR did A Milli!

1. “It’s All About The Benjamins” – Puff Daddy: Now I’m pretty sure that the Big verse that appears in the video and on Puff’s album was added after his death. So I’m actually talking about the original version, which featured the L.O.X. (Kim’s wack ass rhymes were also added as an afterthought). That beat was one of the illest ones of that late 90s era, just ask Pun (“We can battle I’ll even let you rhyme to ‘The Benjamins’ beat“). This track right here proved that Bad Boy would still be a label to be reckoned with despite the tragedy.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Gooch

    black rob did a milli back when a milli was a shit number to sell…. he actually flopped if you really think about it.

    my fav bad boy cut post-Big… “Last Night” by Diddy…. come on, Puff, singing? You can’t top that.

    • Deez Nutz

      Victory?

      YALL SHOULD DO THIS SAME ARTICLE FOR RUFF RYDERS

    • KO

      THEY FELL OFF WHEN THE LOX LEFT

  • KEV

    For sure some of these singles were hot, but we all know that BAD BOY started to go down with the death of the G.O.A.T BIGGIE. BAD BOY was never the same after losing its franchise player… So yeah, Bad Boy (as it was) ended with the loss of the NOTORIOUS B.I.G

  • http://xxlmag.com PePe LePEW

    BlackRob definately one of the most slept-on rappers EVER!

  • http://xxlmag.com PePe LePEW

    once they lost Jordan the bulls never been the same!

  • http://xxlmag.com murda187man

    YO BAD BOY 2 ME FELL OFF THA YEAR 2001 WEN THA NIGGA SHYNE WENT 2 JAIL..SHYNE WAS RIDIN HARD 4 BAD BOY MANE ON THA STREET TIP AND MUSIK TIP…HE WAS REPPIN BAD BOY LIKE HOW THA NIGGA BUCc WAS REPPIN 4 G UNIT HARD!!!

  • og bobby j

    the three things that killed bad boy
    shyne gettin knocked, mase quittin and puff sweatin j-lo.

    They had it all….but as they say, cut the head off and watch the body fall.

    They had street anthems and r&b looked….

    but on some real shit…..diddy is top 5 worst rappers ever….ever!

    Best bad boy joint post biggie era is hands down WHOA….that shit (similar to DMX Get at me DOG) will tear any club down tonight….classic!

    • BIGNAT

      remember diddy doesn’t write rhymes he writes checks. you can thank jada for the victory intro

  • ri067953

    Ummm…let’s see, Bad Boy as a record label. I never really put them in that category. See, a record label has a diverse portfolio of artists that sell records. Bad Boy had 112 and Faith after biggies down fall. Their other “Marquee” artists where lucky to put out one album or maybe a single

    I can say that after Diddy showed his bitchassness and let Shine take the rap in that trial, that is when Bad Boy fell the fuck off.

  • real talk

    I don’t know what you listened to but Press Play is one of the best albums to drop in the last 5 years. No B.S. it was pretty much perfect writing(ghostwriting anyway ), production, singles and everything. The Guests, and the mid album switch from rap to R&B flowed perfectly. I’ll go to my grave wondering why it didn’t do the numbers it sould have.

    It’s one of the maybe 10 cd’s I actually paid for in the last couple years.

    Puff if you read this, just know some niccas appreciated the work you put in. I’ll be playing that joint when I”m an old man.

  • 239allday

    Where the fuck G-Dep at?!?!?

    • http://www.ronmexicocity.com Ron Mexico

      church.

      • Rob The Music Ed

        Did ya’ll see entry #7? And technically “Lets Get It” was a G. Dep song too.

  • KLETEWOOD

    WHEN PUFFY changed his name to P-Diddy…

  • Mac Sleepy

    They fell Off When Shyne Went To jail…

  • http://jesustalkz.blogspot.com/ Jesus Talks

    The Curse of the Bambino < The Curse of Biggie

  • http://darrellsjohnson.blogspot.com johnson

    The Saga Continues was Diddy’s third joint. Remember that wack ass Forever?

  • http://www.xxlmag.com jackpot

    Bad Boy had hits after Biggie.

  • kingequality

    I gotta agree with you homie when puffy changed his name to diddy was around the time when most hiphop heads was like enough. He needed an up and coming star to keep the label going shit if big was still around he would of had to reinvent himself after the 3rd lp rap fans have ADD Most of the vets in the game have a hard time going gold nowadays rap fans are like weed customers know loyality we copping off of whoever got it for the time being.

  • Brad

    He held Ball and JG up, so they had to get the hell on.

  • John Brown

    Bad Boy era ended right after “HIT EM UP” was recorded…lol…

  • FLYTE DA FLY BOY

    When Biggie died, then Shyne brought bad boy back to life, then bad boy fell off after again when Shyne got locked up.

    FREE SHYNE !!!! A couple more months to go.

  • Lou

    Bad Boy was a wrap when the Sean John clothing line stated to jump off. The plain Sean Jean tee (the one with the logo in script on the chest that EVERYBODY had)cost like $25-$35 in the store. It costs at most $3 to make. Why the fuck would you manage and promote artists that most likley wont make it when you have that amount of profit coming in from jeans and tee’s?

    • http://www.ronmexicocity.com Ron Mexico

      even in their relative failure those artists brought PUFFY money.

      then when dude figured out how to exploit them for television dollars, it was a wrizzle.

      as much as he repulses me, puffy is one of the ultimate hustlers of our time.

      ugh. vomit.

  • jamal kilz

    that Hennessey advertisement is super fucked up. promote liquor on a website thats primarily used by innercity youth.

  • REAL TALK 08

    Man,Bad boy was and alwayz will be BIGGIE SMALLS..when BIG died it was a rap…anything afterwards was a joke..it was all about Diddy after that…notice no one has had a career at Bad Boy but Diddy!…

  • paychexx

    you know, no way out was a really good cd, not a classic but good one.

    i think when the lox left and shyne got sent to the cell, mase retired, puff didnt know what to do. i mean br and g dep had hits( g.dep album was the shit)but it wasnt big or mase. so what huslters do, they hustler harder, clothes, tv, alcohol, movies all while keepin bad boy alive, but never count puff out.

    peace

  • Arcey

    4 reasons:

    1. When B.I.G. died

    2. When Mase left the game (introduced on a B.I.G. record, was able to maintain that Rap/R&B vibe that Bad Boy had i.e. “Juicy”, “Big Poppa”, “One More Chance” – Poster boy for the shiny suit era)

    3. When LOX wanted free from Puff (last hardcore act, only left Black Rob who couldn’t stay out of jail)

    4. When Shyne got incarcerated (that killed any kind of street cred left to BBE)

  • Arcey

    and oh yeah,
    Sean Combs as more studio albums(4) than B.I.G.(2), Mase(3), LOX(as a group)(2), Shyne(2), Black Rob(2)

    WTF!!?

  • Jerm

    Well its a good thing 8Ball & MJG left there, theyll be wit Grand Hustle and put some sick shit out ther.

  • Pierzy

    Yeah, “No Way Out” had real lyrics because Mase & The LOX (remember when they were one group in the early 90s?) wrote most of the album. “Bad Boy 4 Life” was a hot song and video too…

  • Shawty J

    It’s kinda hard to pinpoint when Bad Boy fell off. Truth be told it’s easier to pinpoint why Bad Boy fell off. I remember Suge Knight criticized Diddy for being all over Bad Boy’s artists records and all up in their videos.

    This is understandable, Diddy is supposed to be building his artist into stars, but once they get hot, he uses them to make himself hot Let’s use G. Dep as an example:

    “Let’s Get It” was G.Dep’s record it was supposed to be the first single on his album, but Diddy promoted as the first single of his own album. Once the buzz died down, all we saw was Diddy. The same thing happened with

    “Special Delivery” the song started getting hot, then next thing you know the Remix (featured on Diddy’s “We Invented The Remix” pops out and gets even hotter. Diddy was ad-libbing throughout the entire record and played the star in the video, despite not rapping one verse.

    When it was time for the third single to roll around nobody cared about G. Dep, because Diddy parlayed the fans interest in G. Dep into the fans interest in himself. Then once Diddy’s artist aren’t hot anymore he downgrades them to his ghostwriters. Diddy is a user, period.

  • Macdatruest

    WHEN DID BAD BOY FALL OFF? WHEN DIDDY CHANGED HIS NAME TO DIDDY AND WHEN DIDDY WAS THE FLAGSHIP ARTIST, WHAT WAS THE SONG CALLED PUBLIC ENEMY #1? PRESS PLAY WAS DOO DOO FEST MUZIK. AND HONESTLY, WHEN I SEEN PUFF ON MAKING THE BAND THAT MADE ME LOOK AT DUDE DIFFERENT, HE HAD RAP NIGGAZ WALKIN FOR AT NIGHT JUST FOR CHEESECAKE BUT THE POP BANDS WAS TRYING TO GET TO THAT MONEY MAKING REAL MOVES-HE HAD TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF NIGGAZ BEING AMBITIOUS AND BELIEVING IN HIM CAUSE OF BIGGIE AND TREAT THEM LIKE COONS. DUDE TRY TO GET “HOT” SINGLES OUT OF HIS ARTISTS. bADBOY FELL OFF WHEN BADBOY RECORDS BECAME THE DIDDY SHOW, AND NOT A LABEL FULL OF BADBOYS. THEY FELL OFF WHEN HE SIGNED BOYS N THE HOOD WITH THAT GENERIC ASS SONG AND IMAGE. THEY FELL OFF WHEN YOUNG JOC WAS DIDDYS NEW MASE FOR A SECOND. THEY FELL OFF WHEN DIDDY GREW THAT MOHAWK. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION AINT WHEN BADBOY FELL OFF , ITS WHO THE FUCK KEEP PUTTIN THEM BACK ON? AND ALL THE SONGS YOU MENTIONED…

  • no

    Same thing ass all the others g-unit roc-a-fella no-limit and def jam it’s hard for the artist to sit back and let somebody blow g-dep the lox and shine would have saved them but puff wanted all the shine look at g-unit add buck and the game with dre beats and 50 is on top but they hate to see there light go out if puffy would’nt a jacked lets get it g-dep would have held em down and kiss and the lox’s

  • gkid1234

    Notorious Big Forever. They had a few hits after Big but it was never the same. Big’s death left the label in critical condition. Everytime someone tried to give cpr puff came and killed it. By the way the 50 comment, 50 actually was trying to help those idiots by giving them cosigns with his features.

  • giantstepp

    “weak muthafcukas dont deserve to breathe how many niggas down ta die 4 me , yaee yayee”

  • http://XXLMAG.COM INTERNET BULLY

    AFTER BIG DIED, MA$E RAN,AND THE LOX GOT DROPPED AND DIDDY DIDNT RUN THE CITY… THEN “MAKING THE BAND” WHOMP WHOMP WHOOOOOOOMP…

  • fredMS

    another g dep song called everyday with faith evens should be on this list.

    • 239allday

      Yuh I remember that song was hot as hell. It was even on all those coundowns and shit. It would be real hard to get those kind of songs on any countdowns now.

  • Enlightened

    Nigga you crazy as hell. Lil’ Kim came tight as hell on “All About The Benjamins”

  • http://kellsfetish.com Lo-Doe

    Bad Boy slipped when Puff fucked the Lox out of their publishing deal & not promoting Black Rob like he should’ve. The Black Rob Report was the #1 slept on album of 2005. Like freeway’s “Free at Last” was for 2007. Rob dropped a banger and Puff didn’t really stand behind it.
    Shyne, he could’ve played that one out a lil better.
    G-Dep, was a failure from the get go.
    -As for Ma$e-??? Coming back (decent comeback album) but wasted a GREAT opportunity by signing to G-Unit and then getting off the label.

  • Who Dat?

    Kind of surprised no one talked about Loon….to me that’s when the wheel fell off the wagon. When you try to sell goons like Loon, you should know that your perspective of the industry is f the effed up.

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