Kanye sucks!

I had to wonder, when I saw the lineup for this year’s Lollapalooza. Usually, the way these things work is, there’s five headliners, and one of them is obviously higher profile than the rest of them. So they get to perform Sunday night, unopposed, while the rest of them have to play Friday and Saturday nights, opposite one another.

This time around, though, there wasn’t an artist that struck me as definitely being higher profile. The five headliners this year are Kanye West, Radiohead, Wilco, Nine Inch Nails, and Rage Against the Machine. Of the five of them, I figured Kanye West and Radiohead are the biggest of the bunch. A case could be made for Rage Against the Machine, which, it’s been suggested, was singlehandedly responsible for making Rock the Bells and Coachella as big as they were last year. But they haven’t even had an album out since I was in high school. Plus, I’m sure a lot of the people who were interested caught them last year.

Between the two remaining artists, I figured it’d be interesting to see which act was deemed more important and thus named the headliner of this year’s festival. You know how egos are in the music business. Some groups don’t necessarily want to “open” for other groups. Plus, sheduling can be a bitch at these festivals. You spend so much money to get there, you don’t want to miss any of the groups you specifically came there to see. But you end up kinda having to – especially if you’re like me, and you spend the entire weekend drunk off your ass. With the headliner, you don’t have to sweat it as much, because they’re not playing opposite anyone. You just have to stumble within the vicinity of the main stage.

Obviously, the choice for grown people who know good music would be Radiohead. They’ve got a catalog that’s unparalleled by any other act of their generation. Even a lot of black people like Radiohead. On the other hand, it’s debatable if Kanye West is even any good. While some people will insist that he’s got three classic rap albums under his belt, others will insist that he’s a fucking miserable rapper who would have been much better served producing for other people. That being said, there was definitely a case to be made for giving Kanye the big stage to himself. Commercially, the guy’s coming off a fucking banner year. While that Radiohead album was in the news a lot last year for its inventive pricing scheme, Kanye’s Graduation made the news for actually selling a shiteload of albums – upwards of a million in its first week alone. Also, Kanye is from Chicago, and Lollapalooza likes to spotlight local artists. Pearl Jam, for example (I know), headlined last year’s festival.

As it turns out, the organizers of Lollapalooza decided to go with something a bit different this year. Radiohead is gonna be this year’s headliner, so to speak, but they’re playing Friday night instead of Sunday night. Still, they’re playing on the big stage, not opposite any other acts. Kanye, on the other hand, is playing either Saturday or Sunday night (I can’t remember, and I’m too lazy to look it up), opposite Nine Inch Nails. I remember he’s playing against Nine Inch Nails, because I kinda like Nine Inch Nails anyway. So I was at a loss for what I was gonna do. I figured a lot of people would be interested in hearing my opinion of a Kanye West show, but it’s not like the TIs at Harris would give me a dollar to buy a bottled water at Lollapalooza, if I was in danger of having a heat stroke. So that’s not as much of a consideration for me, personally.

Of course, this was announced a few weeks ago, before Kanye West fucking ruined Bonnaroo by showing up two and a half hours late, because it took too long to put together his laser light show (which ended up being useless anyway, once the sun started to come up). I’m sure, when they heard about that shit, the organizers of Lollapalooza breathed a collective sigh of relief that they didn’t make his punk ass the headliner. Fuck how many albums he sold. He could fuck around and ruin Lollapalooza like he did Bonnaroo. Plus, let’s keep it real. Who really goes to one of these huge outdoor festivals to see a rapper anyway? The reason Kanye needed all of those lights and shit in the first place is that live hip-hop just doesn’t translate on such a large scale. Meanwhile, all week long, Pitchfork.tv has been running these clips of Nine Inch Nails rehearsing that make it look like their set might be fucking incredible.

There’s something similar going on right now over in England with the Glastonbury Festival, which I believe begins today or tomorrow, and runs throughout this weekend. There’s been a lot of controversy over the fact that Jay-Z was selected as one of this year’s headliners. A lot of people are pissed, and aren’t even going. Just as recently as yesterday, I read where one of the main TIs behind the festival was saying that there’s thousands of tickets to the thing that have yet to be sold, and this could be the first time in 15 years that the festival didn’t actually sell out. Damn, Jay-Z fucked up an entire outdoor music festival, as if he was some bad shrooms! This has to be a troubling development to his new business partners over at Live Nation aka Clear Channel.

I know there’s been some accusations of racism on behalf of the festivalgoers, but I wonder if that’s really the case. I thought white people in England loved black music even more than white people here in the states. Could it be that live hip-hop is just not worth a shit?

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562 BORN

    WHOEVER WROTE THIS SH.. IS A CO.. SUCKER! AND SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO WRITE SOME SH.. LIKE THIS ON A HIP HOP MAGAZINES WEBSITE! i GOT TWO WORDS FOR YOU FU.. YOU!!!!!

    • Deez Nutz

      Google Bol and the Parker Report and you will know exactly why he wrote this bullshyt…(I think Ralph Nader meant to make those comments about Bol instead of Obama)

      • render

        LMFAO!! Holy shit that videos fucking hilarious. Bol ethered himself foreal.

        LOL damn I really cant take any of this shit even half serious no more.

        LOL, thats just a real bad look

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    live hiphop does NOT translate well on a large scale; in clubs or auditoriums it sounds much better — and that of course requires that the artist knows how to put on a show in the first place. that being said, i am still fairly certain that kanye would put on a good show even in a large venue. his perfectionism makes him a dick for sure, but it also makes his production excellent and i would assume (from the overwhelmingly positive reviews from the GITD tour) his live show excellent as well, regardless of venue size.

    golden line:

    “Jay-Z fucked up an entire outdoor music festival, as if he was some bad shrooms!”

    hahahahaha!

    • http://www.going.com/chunkymonkey Lancelot

      Nas – Del la Sol – Kidz in the hall, were all suppose to do PAID DUES 2 weeks ago & THE SHI% WAS CANCLED

      Co sign

  • Pierzy

    Co-sign. For the most part, live hip-hop is wack. You need to be actual musicians like The Roots (Philly what up!) or have crazy energy like Busta Rhymes. However, I think Jigga puts on a great show regardless, but most live hip-hop is just a dude yelling into a mic and walking around on stage.

  • Deez Nutz

    Man Bol if you don’t start writing about some shyt we care about…”We” as in real black people don’t go to festivals like this bullshyt anyway…Did you not see the BET awards the other night is is that shyt not available in West Bubbaf*ck or wherever you live…get a clue and some azz and try again

    Al Green performance>hip hop

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      okayplayer must have sprung a leak.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562#comment-1004686 BORN

    thoreauly77, Pierzy, YOUR OPINION IS YOUR OWN BUT, THE BOTH OF YOU SUCK CO.. RIGHT ALONG WITH THE WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!!
    YOU BOTH MUST HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF HIP HOP BECAUSE IF YOU DID IT STARTED OUT WITH ALL LIVE SHOWS!!!!!!!!!
    DI..HEADS!!!!!!!!
    AND PLEASE DO RESEARCH BEFORE YOU JUST COMMENT ON SOME SH..!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

      your eloquence and insight are perhaps only outweighed by your reading comprehension and writing ability.

      • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562 BORN

        live hiphop does NOT translate well on a large scale; in clubs or auditoriums it sounds much better — and that of course requires that the artist knows how to put on a show in the first place.
        IS THIS OR IS THIS NOT WHAT YOU SAID JERK OFF?
        OH AND THANK YOU ENGLISH MAJOR!!!!!!!!
        WHY DON’T YOU BREAK IT DOWN FOR ME, SINCE MY COMPREHENSION IS NOT THAT WELL!!!!!!!!
        CO.. SUCKER!!!!!

        • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

          since your comprehension is not that well, i will break it down for you. if you read my entire comment, you might have noticed that i was talking about how live hiphop does not sound as good in a large venue. in my experience, this has always been true, with a couple of exceptions,like outkast who i saw at audiotistic a couple years ago. i have never seen kanye live, but from what i have read, his live show is excellent, even in large venues. so you see, i was saying that in the majority of cases, live hiphop sucks in a large venue. is that broken down enough for you?

        • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562 BORN

          LOOK YOU FU..!
          I KNOW WHAT THE FU.. YOU ARE SAYING DI..HEAD!
          AND SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN HIS LIVE SHOW, YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN BE WRITING SH.. ABOUT IT! I HAVE SEEN HIM LIVE AND HE PUTS ON A GREAT SHOW!
          RULE # 1 ENGLISH PROFESSOR NEVER SPEAK ON SOMETHING YOU DON’T KNOW ABOUT!
          YOU ARE A FUC…. CLASS A IDIOT, HIP HOP SHOWS ARE THE BEST LIVE!
          I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHY I AM EVEN ENTERTAINING THIS SH.. BUT, YOUR OPINION SUCK CO.. JUST LIKE THE DUDE WHO WROTE THE ARTICLE!
          MIDDLE FINGER YOU!
          AND WHO HAVE YOU EVER SEEN LIVE FU.. BOY!

        • Liam

          THANK YOU ‘BORN’ FOR SELF-CENSORING YOUR OBSCENITIES, IT HAS MADE YOUR OTHERWISE RE..RDED POST ENTERTAINING.

          MIDDLE FINGER YOU!

  • The Messiah

    Bol,

    This is a shamless and painfully obvious attempt to get Kanye himself to publicly react to your blog through his own (or should I say his “pwn”)lol.

  • Pierzy

    BORN, just because someone rhymes or is a hip-hop performer, doesn’t meant they’re a good – or even GREAT – performer. I love Rakim and I love Gang Starr but neither Ra nor Guru are very good on stage. In a cipher, they’re undoubtedly incredible and on wax, they’re legends. But just because the music started live doesn’t mean everyone can do it well. That’s quite a leap…

    • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562#comment-1005187 BORN

      YOUR CRAZY TO SAY THE GOD’S DON’T HAVE GOOD LIVE PERFORMANCES!
      MAYBE GURU BY HIMSELF(ON THAT JAZZMATAZZ SH..) BUT, NOT WHEN HE IS WITH PREMO!
      GET THE FU.. OUT OF HERE!
      MIDDLE FINGER YOU!

      • Pierzy

        Damn…you’re a hater. Full of anger.

        • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562 BORN

          NAH YOU ARE THE HATER!
          I’M JUST GIVING YOU MY UNDERSTANDING!
          YOU GUYS ARE HATING ON HIP-HOP ON A HIP-HOP MAGAZINE’S WEBSITE CANNOT GET MORE HATEFUL THAN THAT!
          I COULD SEE IF THIS WAS ON ROLLING STONES .COM OR SOME SH..! THIS IS XXL!

  • giantstepp

    This post SUCKS Bol.

  • master cheef

    thoroughlygay77,
    Nobody and I mean nobody on this website gives one flying fuck about your ostentatious hard-on for grammar.

    If I ever see you out in California, Im going to get medieval on your gay ass and beat the homosexuality out of you.

    what’s the word for someone who focuses so much on making showy displays of intellect that it actually makes them look like a complete moron?

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    hey cheef, i didn’t even mention grammar. you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills along with lil ol BORN. then you guys can have an illiterate circle-jerk.

    • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562#comment-1005187 BORN

      NOTHING LITTLE ABOUT ME!
      FU.. BOY!

  • master cheef

    i didn’t say you said it. HA

    are you saying you’re not fascinated by it?

  • http://myspace.com/phantom916 phantom

    The Glow in the Dark tour was great! Most original large scale hip hop show ever. KanYe makes great music. He gave people their moneys worth. I liked it better when you were hating on weeny and souldier gurl. peace.
    myspace.com/phantom916

    • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562#comment-1005187 BORN

      I AT PEACE WITH THAT!
      THAT SHOW WAS A BEAST!
      TELL THESE CO.. SUCKER SOMETHING!

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    what do you do, go around reading my comments or something? stop being an e-stalker, vomiting out your homosexual getting “medieval” on my “ass” fantasies, and studying my commentary you little weirdo.

    • master cheef

      my two favorite websites are littered with your garbabe “comentary”. I honestly believe you just like to hear yourself talk or read your own type.

      Try to make a comment interesting if you just absolutely have to leave one. Trust me, i dont enjoy reading that homoerotic trash.

      • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

        thanks for reading cheef.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Benicio Del Thoro

    Rock the Bells 07′ when Wu was there was hype. I think this might apply only to certain rappers. Sadly Ye’s inconsistency at his live shows might be his achilles heel.

  • Dub Sac

    Hey Born,

    Since you want to defend live hip-hop across the board, what percentage of live hip-hop shows you’ve attended would you say have actually been good shows? That have actually been better than the recorded version?

    I think all music started in a live setting. If I’m not mistaken, music originated a couple years before recording technology. Does that mean there is no such thing as bad live music, since that’s where it all came from?

    And just because this art-form originated in a live setting, how many performers do you think actually came-up on their live shows versus their records? Just cause that’s how it once was doesn’t mean that’s the same standard used today.

    • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562#comment-1005187 BORN

      I DO NOT NEED TO PROVE MYSELF TO YOU NOR DO I ANSWER TO YOU FU.. OFF!
      OH BY THE WAY NO SH..!

      • Dub Sac

        You’re right. Addressing the points I raised might lead to an actual discussion where-in we come to the consensus that some hip-hop shows are good and some hip-hop shows are bad. And it’s really a lot easier to just get hype on people you disagree with.

        FUCK YOU COCKSUCKER!
        SHUT THE FUCK UP!

        Man, I sure learned a lot from that interaction.

        • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562#comment-1005187 BORN

          I DON’T STUTTER!
          LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING SINCE YOU WANT TO TALK.
          YOU STATED THE VERY OBVIOUS, OF COURSE RECORDING IN THE STUDIO IS GOING TO HAVE MORE CLARITY BUT, THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT BETTER, THAT JUST MEANS YOU CAN HEAR IT BETTER!
          LIVE PERFORMANCES ARE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE ALONG WITH THE MUSIC!
          SO TAKE THIS FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH!
          EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINION.
          OH YEAH AND LETS MAKE ONE THING CLEAR, I ONLY LISTEN AND STAND BY MUSIC THAT I FEEL IS GOOD QUALITY!

    • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562 BORN

      TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO RESPOND TO THE SHIT I WROTE WHEN I WAS LEVEL HEADED YOU FUCKING PRICK!

      • Dub Sac

        There wasn’t anything you really set for me to respond to. But since you asked…

        You talk about the “experience” of live shows. Ever – even once – have you ever experienced a live hip-hop show where you paid a shitload of money to see someone you like and instead you get shit sound, distorted mics, and five dudes you never heard of yelling back-up vocals so loud you can’t actually understand the emcee you paid good money to listen to? Would you say that “experience” is greater than listening to a CD simply because it was a live show?

        FROM thoreauly 77:
        live hiphop does NOT translate well on a large scale; in clubs or auditoriums it sounds much better — and that of course requires that the artist knows how to put on a show in the first place.

        What first made me want to respond to you is the way you flip out on this comment and called out T77 in a post where he talks about wanting to go see a show in a large venue.

        All I’ve wanted you to concede this entire time is to acknowledge that there is such a thing as a bad hip-hop show. But you seem so committed to the “roots of hip-hop” that you have to insist that hip-hop is good live ALL THE TIME.

        I’ve seen good hip-hop performers and bad hip-hop performers. I’ve enjoyed some shows and been bored to tears at some shows.

        You say you only stand by quality music. So does that mean after this entire time YELLING ON THE INTERNET what you really meant is “quality live hip-hop is good.” Well no fucking shit. I don’t think anybody has ever denied that a good show is a good show.

        If you only stand by quality, I don’t see why you’re so threatened by the suggestion that not everything is quality.

  • iLL

    Yea live rap/hip hop is useless. It doesnt translate like it does on the mp3/radio. Hype men are to loud. mics crap out etc etc etc.

    • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562#comment-1005187 BORN

      YOU ARE A COCK SUCKER!!!!!!

      • Dub Sac

        ^^^^^^^

        You forgot to stutter this time. Did you go to speech therapy in the last two minutes?

        • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562 BORN

          STOP TRYING TO BE SOMEONES BODYGUARD!

        • Dub Sac

          I’m not trying to be anyone’s bodyguard, since no one seems to be in any danger on an internet message board.

          You’re just funny to me. And since you seem more interested in name-calling than discussion, I thought I’d join in the fun.

        • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=22562 BORN

          GET THE FU.. OUT A HERE NUT SAC!

  • Yaw

    Hey, I’m from England, and the part about white people here loving black music is kinda true. But it seems they love white people who make black music like Amy Winehouse, Eminem and Justin Timberlake more than actual black artists who make black music.

    The thing about Glastonbury is that it’s a rock restival, and the people who usually go there could care less about Jay-Z, let alone Rap music. I don’t think racism is the cause of their problems with the lineup, although I wish it was. I would love to have a reason to go at them lol.

    However, I do think it was a poor decision to get Jay-Z headlining the festival. They’ve ended up isolating their usual festivalgoers, and I wouldn’t go through all that awful music to eventually see Jay-Z at the end of the show. Not that I would pay to see Jay-Z anyway, too broke for that lol.

    So I think the problem wasn’t too much that live hip hop is worth nothing, it’s just that they tried to change the festival a little too fast, and the feelings against that are ultimately getting taken out against Hip Hop.

    • Hold Tight The UK Garage And Grime… UK I Rep Thats Me When I Rhyme!

      Mate got it spot on. All the usual festival goes are rockheads… just the way we’re grimehead or rapheads. They might of got away if they had Kanye headline because he’s more popular over here with the non hip-hop fans than Jay-Z is.

      Hold Tight The UK Grime Scene

  • BIGNAT

    A LIVE RAP SHOW IS SHIT UNLESS THEY HAVE A GOOD BAND BACKING THEM UP. IF EVERY RAPPER HAD THE ROOTS BACKING THEM UP WHEN THEY DID A LIVE SHOW THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEMS. SOME RAPPERS CAN FREESTYLE THERE ASS OFF AND HAVE HITS BUT THEY STILL SUCK LIVE. THEY LEAVE NO MAJOR IMPRESSION ON YOU. ALSO IF 50 PEOPLE COME ON THE STAGE AND ONLY 1 OF THEM IS THE GUY PERFORMING YOU ARE IN FOR A CRAPPY SHOW.

  • Jonathan and tha kid

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  • http://www.rizzleworld.blogspot.com allnice

    Most live hip hop only works in small venues or inside an auditorium. And even then the show isn’t guaranteed to be a hit. The Nas concert at summer stage a few years back was heatrock because it was free and Nas is a legend in NYC. That is the only outdoor hip hop concert that was worth shit. 50 Cent might not be that bad either because when I travel abroad, most people respond positively to his concerts.

    Jigga is a horrible showman. His concerts suck. The Black Album concert DVD was horrible. He came to Japan several years ago and nobody even came. He had to cut the concert short. It only lasted for an hour. Then I read an interview and this nigga was talking about oh the concert was great and people were into it. I guess he had to lie to save face.

    Everyone knows that Ye and Jigga do horrible concerts. Ye is Jigga’s protege by default so he suffers from the same weaknesses. Since Lil Wayne is on Jigga’s dick too, then you know his concerts suck as well. I feel sorry for people who have to suffer through a Ye/Jigga/Lil Wayne concert for their first live hip hop show. If they went to see the Roots, Wu-Tang, or Method Man/Redman first, people would like live hip hop more.