• Fire

    NY Oil is right on with what he says. I hope that the phoenix effect he speaks of will actually happen. He’s right about the fact that there’s too many trash MCs. He’s very articulate. You should show this clip to the Bill O’Reilly’s of the world to prove them wrong.

  • dat koon nigga

    WHOZ BEZ DIZ CRACKZ AND WAZ DIZ NIGGAZ TALKINZ ABOUTZ

  • Frank Balls Sanders

    First thing’s first, Purple Hulk is a jackass. Back to the topic, every post by Jay is a winner. This is no exception. NY Oil’s “Ya’ll Should All Get Lynched” is a classic. I’d like to see this guy get even more exposure.

  • N.O. 4 life

    NY Oil…who?…i understand what he is saying but not all of its true….songs with a great hook will always out do amazing lyrics with an ok hook because thats what the masses want…most hip hop buyers are NOT good judges of hip hop so therefore the “good artists will prevail” theory will probably take a looong time to happen if it ever does..

  • The Spaniard

    Get Lynched(?) was my favorite song for awhile.

  • Dan99

    No wonder why this guy didn’t get sign yet.

  • Ding Dong RAP is dead……

    LEARN TO CUT HAIR MOTHERFUCKERS. GOOD PRODUCTION CAN’T SAVE YOU ANY MORE.

    You bringin in weight. Keep bringin in weight. Theres a future in snitchin. Aint no future in rap no more.
    Mugging is making a comeback. Vetton purses will get you a easy 300 dollars.

  • BklynBandette

    I hope his Prophecies come to past.

  • VLsteve

    neva heard of him

  • LOL

    NYOIL IS A GIMMICK, TRYIN TO PLAY ON THE INFERIORITY COMPLEX OF AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN.

  • LOL

    HIPHOP IS NOT A CULTURE.

    A RAPPER WHOS WHOLE CAREER IS ABOUT BITCHIN ON THE “INDUSTRY”.

    LOL THIS DUDES WHO THOERIES IS WACK.

    HATIN IS THE 6TH ELEMENT OF HIPHOP.

  • PRODIGAL SON

    Jay Smooth once again bringing an interesting blog that’s worth watching.

  • Worley

    Jay Smooth that hairline is killin me.

    NYOil is on the money. I’m glad n*ggas ain’t doing big numbers anymore. All the heads in it for the money gotta find another hustle. Leave the rapping to the artists. Let the hustlers make bread elsewhere.

  • Fire

    LOL Says:

    September 15th, 2007 at 1:09 am
    HIPHOP IS NOT A CULTURE.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Are you serious? If you are, tell me how hip hop isn’t a culture.

  • LOL

    Fire Says:

    September 15th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
    LOL Says:

    September 15th, 2007 at 1:09 am
    HIPHOP IS NOT A CULTURE.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Are you serious? If you are, tell me how hip hop isn’t a culture.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    IF U DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ACTUAL CULTURE AND A GENRE OF MUSIC WITH A FOLLOWING AND A SCENE , THEN YOU ARE RBEYOND MY HELP.

    CULTURES CREATE MUSIC NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND DUMB ASS.

    YOU MUST BE WHITE.

  • Fire

    Why do you assume I’m white, bigot? People have looked at hip hop as a culture since it first started. Many people say hip hop is more than music, that it’s a way of life. Maybe you’re the one beyond help. Learn to read without being racist, dumb ass.

  • LOL

    some people say basketball is a way of life. without basketball theyd be behind bars. its still a sport and not a culture.

    damn kid. stay in school

  • Fire

    By people I meant MCs. MCs have said that hip hop is a culture, a way of dress, music, and a way of life FROM THE BEGINNING OF ITS INCEPTION. Many people back them up. Before you tell me to stay in school, do you know the four elements of hip hop? Do you know the pioneers? Can you go a post without making an insult?

  • http://www.illdoctrine.com Jay Smooth

    Last time I interviewed Wise Intelligent he talked about how he considers hip-hop a “medium” and it’s not really accurate to tall it a culture per se. Not saying I agree necessarily but you can make interesting arguments both ways..

  • Fire

    Jay,
    Yeah, that’s definitely true, it’s just that so many people and MCs say hip hop is more than music in a lot of different avenues, from books to TV interviews to internet blogs. I happen to agree with that sentiment. Maybe you could talk about that in a Vlog.

    LOL,
    Not that it matters, but I’m an eighteen year old anti-poser white kid and MC from the suburbs who probably knows more about hip hop than you ever will. Even black people from the city say that (LOL gasps, his brain explodes from stereotype being proven wrong). I’m just sick of people bringing race into everything and assuming things based on a person’s skin color (this isn’t the first time you’ve done it either). I’m against racism no matter where it comes from. I see people as people, who cares what they look like? It’s all about what they do and whether they’re good people.

    Man, NYOil sure had some good points, huh?

  • MZA

    NY Oil is a wack elitist emcee with no flow. Fuck him, he only appeals to little white backpackers who think they know what ‘real hip-hop’ is.

  • Jay Smooth

    That’s not true, NY Oil also appeals to grumpy old mixed-race hip-hop bloggers..

  • MZA

    you just showed more character in one comment than NY Oil has in his entire recording career.

  • LOL

    Fire Says:

    September 15th, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    Jay,
    Yeah, that’s definitely true, it’s just that so many people and MCs say hip hop is more than music in a lot of different avenues, from books to TV interviews to internet blogs. I happen to agree with that sentiment. Maybe you could talk about that in a Vlog.

    LOL,
    Not that it matters, but I’m an eighteen year old anti-poser white kid and MC from the suburbs who probably knows more about hip hop than you ever will. Even black people from the city say that (LOL gasps, his brain explodes from stereotype being proven wrong). I’m just sick of people bringing race into everything and assuming things based on a person’s skin color (this isn’t the first time you’ve done it either). I’m against racism no matter where it comes from. I see people as people, who cares what they look like? It’s all about what they do and whether they’re good people.

    Man, NYOil sure had some good points, huh?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    TRANSLATION =

    LOL,
    I AM A CRACKA ASS CRACKA, I HAVE TO OVER COMPENSATE FOR LISTENING TO BLACK MUSIC AND THE MUSIC OF AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE BY PRETENDING A GENRE OF MUSIC IS AN ACTUAL CULTURE IN ITSELF. IM AN IDIOT. I DEDICATE MY LIFE TO A GENRE OF MUSIC, ON MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE IT SAYS HIPHOP, WHEN I FILL OUT AN APPLICATION FOR AND IT ASKS RACE I PUT HIPHOP.

    NEWFLASH FIRE YOU DUMB ASS…RACE MATTERS IN EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE. YOU’RE SO ANTI-POSER, YOU FORGOT TO LISTEN TO THE LYRICS OF THE BLACK CONCIOUS RAPPERS YOU DICK-RIDE. YOURE WORSE THAN THE WHITE KIDS WHO HAVE NO BLACK FRIENDS , GO TO ROCK THE BELLS TO LISTEN TO ‘REAL HIPHOP’ AND DROP THE N-BOMB.

    FUCKOUTTAHERE

  • LOL

    FIRE , WHITE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ALWAYS ON SOME “WE ARE THE WORLD BULLSHIT” WHEN U WANNA INFULTRATE BLACK CULTURE OR MAKE MONEY STEALING OUR SHIT. OTHERWISE ITS FUCK THEM NIGGAS , LETS MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CITY AS FAR AWAY FROM THEM AS POSSIBLE.

    WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT REPARATIONS?

    HOW DO U FEEL ABOUT HOW THE GOVERNMENT ACTED DURING KATRINA.?

    FUCKOUTTAHERE WITH THIS IM NOT RACIST BULLSHIT.

    YOU ARE WHITE AND RAISED IN AMERICA.

    RACISM IS SO INGRAINED INTO UR SYSTEM YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ITS THERE.

  • Fire

    LOL,
    You are very ignorant, my friend. You don’t know me or what I stand for. I don’t overcompensate by listening to what you call “black” music (which is stupid, by the way, because music is music, regardless of who does it, but I know what you mean), I listen to it because I want to. It wouldn’t matter if a fat, balding Indonesian guy decided to rap, if he could spit I wouldn’t care what he looked like. You say I want to steal “your” shit, as if you even own a musical genre. With all the wack rap that’s coming out now, I wouldn’t want a part of that. I know more about hip hop than you ever will. I don’t just listen to conscious rappers, I listen to many different areas of hip hop. What would you call Too Short? What would you call M.O.P.? Hell, what would you call B.I.G. or Dr. Dre? I could go on and on, but I fear you’ll be too dumb to see my point regardless of how many examples I use.

    You ask me how I feel about reparations. I think they’re a good thing, no bullshit. You ask me how I feel about government actions during Katrina. They were totally fucked up and should have been handled differently. The way that the government’s treated black people through the years is abominable. I’m glad one of the convictions for the Jena 6 was overturned. Who were you expecting, George Wallace? How the hell are you idiotic enough to assume that I think racism isn’t in America? Racism still exists, only people slightly more ignorant than yourself (if that’s even possible) couldn’t see that.

    You want to say I’m “on some we are the world bullshit”, but I’m more real and realistic than you’ll ever be. I go to school in the city and am planning on moving out there, I don’t care what race I live around. It’s no secret race is ingrained in every aspect of life, I just don’t think that’s the way it should be from anybody regardless of race. Race is a man made barrier, so if man made it, we can take it down, but stupid motherfuckers like you wouldn’t want to do that, would you?

    Aren’t you the same man that said generalizations are generally true in another post? If so, do you believe the generalizations that some media gives to black people? You want to attack me for being racist, but who’s the blind one in this discussion? You’re the one bringing racist B.S. rhetoric into every post you comment on, as if you know everything. Your name is fitting, because so many people laugh out loud at the bullshit you say. Quit being ignorant, stop generalizing, open your eyes, and read a book, read a book, read a motherfuckin’ book, you fake bigot e-thug.

  • Fire

    LOL,
    By the way, I don’t drop the n-bomb or any other racial slurs. You sound like a Fox News pundit, always trying to bring irrelevant topics into the argument and slandering people because you have no other effective and intelligent way of arguing with people. Your dividing BS won’t work. You should know that stereotypes are incorrect by now. Oh well, go listen to your Soulja Boy and Mims.

  • LOL

    GENERALIZATIONS ARE GENERALLY TRUE.

    THE MEDIA TELLS LIES.

    THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IM SAYING

    anyways ,IF (white) people KNOW THE MEDIA are generalizing and “sterotyping”…..its not a sterotype, its a outright lie ya dig?

    STOP TRYIN SO HARD WHITE BOY FORREAL.

    JUST FACE IT. YOU’RE WHITE AND YOU DICK-RIDE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE AND ITS MUSIC (AKA HIPHOP)

    HIPHOP IS NOT A CULTURE IN ITSELF.
    ITS A GENRE OF MUSIC FROM A CULTURE.

    SMH….SILLY WHITE BOI.

    IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU TO SAY..I LIKE BLACK MUSIC?

  • LOL

    AND I WILL NEVER SUBSCRIBE TO THAT WE ARE THE WORLD BULLSHIT YOURE TRYIN TO PREACH TO ME. TELL THAT SHIT TO UR RACIST ASS WHITE PEOPLE.

    DONT BRING THAT SHIT TO BLACK PEOPLE. WE LIVE THE EFFECTS OF RACISM EVERYDAY.

    YOU PREACHIN THAT SHIT TO THE WRONG PEOEPLE MAN.

    LIKE I SAID…YOU ONLY SUDDENLY CARE CAUSE YOU WANNA DICKRIDE BLACK CULTURE AND ITS MUSIC.

    OTHERWISE YOU WOULDNT GIVE A FUCK.

    LIKE MALCOLM X SAID.

    WHITE PEOPLE ONLY WANNA HELP OUT BLACK PEOPLE OR BE FRIENDS WITH BLACK PEOPLE OR OTHER RACES, ONLY IF THEY HAVE SOMTHING TO GAIN FROM IT.

  • Fire

    LOL,
    You’re full of shit. You ignore damn near every single point I make, only furthering the assumption that you’re ignorant. I don’t dickride African American culture or anybody else for that matter. I’m my own person. You act like only black people can be inspired by Malcolm X, but I read his autobiography. Remember the part when he went to Mecca and he was shocked to see white Muslims being good people with a sense of brotherly commitment? That was an event that inspired him to realize not all white people are bad, so why can’t it inspire you? I’m not a reflection of my racist ancestors, but apparently you can’t see that.

    You want to say I’m trying so hard, but believe me, it’s not hard to expose your lack of intelligence and it’s not hard to stand up for something I believe in. You want to say I only care because of music. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. Sure, there’s racist white people, but there’s also racist black people such as yourself who make things worse. You should go listen to the Kool G Rap song with Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie called “Erase Racism”.

    You can be stuck in your ignorance if you want to, but you’re the one who’s preaching your bullshit to the wrong people. If you’re dumb enough to believe that generalizations are generally true, including the negative ones about your own people, then why should I believe anything you have to say? Is it so hard to say you’re an idiot?

  • Fire

    LOL,
    Here’s another Malcolm X quote for you. Think about this one for a while if you need to.

    “I believe in recognizing every human being as a human being, neither white, black, brown nor red. When you are dealing with humanity as one family, there’s no question of integration or intermarriage. It’s just one human being marrying another human being, or one human being living around and with another human being.”
    Interview for the Pierre Berton Show. Toronto, Ontario, (19 January 1965)

  • LOL

    I WONDER WHAT HE WOULD SAY ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE IF HE WANT TO MECCA NOW AND SAW THEM CRACKAS OCCUPYIN EVERY ARAB NATION FOR ITS OIL.

    BUT Y’ALL DONT HEAR ME

  • Fire

    LOL,
    What we’re (US) doing about the oil situation is indeed wrong. ONCE AGAIN, THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE FROM EVERY RACE IN THE WORLD, NOT JUST WHITE OR BLACK. It’s not just white people over there in Iraq. Nice try on switching the subject. I hear what you’re saying, but it’s not that I don’t hear you, it’s that I don’t believe you. The quote I posted is what I believe.

  • Beef

    first i just wanna say that ny oil is making a good point.

    second. i just want to point at that, white or black, this dude Fire is makin LOL look like a real ignorant dumbshit foreal.

  • N.O. 4 life

    culture

    American Heritage® Dictionary: Description of culture
    NOUN: 1a. The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought. b. These patterns, traits, and products considered as the expression of a particular period, class, community, or population: Edwardian culture; Japanese culture; the culture of poverty. c. These patterns, traits, and products considered with respect to a particular category, such as a field, subject, or mode of expression: religious culture in the Middle Ages; musical culture; oral culture. d. The predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize the functioning of a group or organization

    by definition hip hop is culture because it defines a specific population of people who use a certain mode of expression

    why argue when you can use facts

  • LOL

    N.O 4 LIFE

    BY THAT SAME DICTIONARY DEFINITION, MYSPACE IS A CULTURE. OBESE PEOPLE ARE A CULTURE, THE INTERNET IS A CULTURE, XXL IS A CULTURE

    BUT WHY USE COMMON SENSE? RIGHT?

  • BEEF

    IM WHITE SO I CO-SIGN FIRE CROTCH

  • Fire

    LOL,
    Are you seriously saying a dictionary definition is wrong? I thought you were stupid, but I didn’t think you’d do that. As for telling people to use common sense, you don’t seem to have any, so you shouldn’t talk. You still won’t return to the subject that we were insistently debating. Wonder why. The dictionary definition stands, yours is false.

  • N.O. 4 life

    FIRE
    perhaps you didnt comprehend the text if you are saying obesity falls within the definition…

    if you believe that hip hop is not a culture than explain why it isnt…

  • Fire

    N.O. 4 Life,
    I believe you meant LOL, man. I’ve been saying hip hop was a culture from the get go, just look at the thread.

  • N.O. 4 life

    LOL…you no what i mean

  • LEROY

    lol is a dumb kid with his caplocks stuck on and his fingers in his ears to anything with sense. i dont even need to enter this arguement cause fire keeps speaking truth and lol wont listen. everyone is lol at him anyway. racist little punk.

  • LOL

    BY THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION THERE IS A FAT PEOPLE CULTURE.

    MY POINT IS LANGUAGE IS OPEN TO INTERPRITATION. YOU CAN TWIST ANY WORDS IN FAVOUR OF UR POINT OF VIEW. IT DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT

    THE KKK AND THE US USE THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE AND RELIGION TO SPREAD HATE.

    my point is you can take the dictionary definition of culture and apply it to karate, football, basketball, myspace, clubbing and a whole bunch of other music genres, scenes and activitites, but common sense will tell you all these things are not a CULTURE.

    and definately not a culture on the level of african american culture, jamacian culture , japanese culture or italian culture , like krs one and all you other “hiphop is my life” nerds try to portray.

    common sense tells you cultures create music not the other way around.

    hiphop is one of the many genre from african ameircan culture. like reggae is from jamacian cultture

    like salasa is from latino culture , etcetcetc

    its not a culture in itself. wake the fuck up you fuckin super fan faggot.

    how old are you 16? music is not a religion. the “elements” were all things relevant to the hiphop scene in the 80′s shit has changed its never stagnant. stop worshiping the 80′s hiphopscene like its some cult.

    AND I FIND IT FUNNY YOU ACCUSE ME OF GENERALIZING WHEN ALL YOU HIPHOP IS MY LIFE FAGGOTS INCLUDING NY-OIL ARE THE BIGGEST HIPHOP GENERALIZERS GOING.

    RIGHT NOW HIPHOP IS BIGGER THAN ITS EVER BEEN.

    SALES MIGHT BE DOWN BUT HIPHOP PIRACY IS THRU THE ROOF.

    YOU CAN REALLY FIND ANY TYPE OF HIPHOP YOU LIKE IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHETHER ITS NERD RAP, GANGSTA RAP , SOUTHERN RAP, RAP/ROCK , POP RAP , CONSCIOUS RAP , SCREWED & CHOPPED , WEST COAST , EAST COAST ….WHATEVER UR TASTE IS. ITS ALL OUT THERE

    BUT PEOPLE LIKE NY-OIL BITCH AS THEIR GIMMICK…RATHER THAN REALISE THERE THERE IS MORE HIPHOP OTHER THERE THAN EVER BEFORE. WHY? CAUSE HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY.

    HIS WHOLE STANCE IS ANTI-HIPHOP INDUSTRY , WHICH IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS MEANS NOTHING , AND IS VERY BORING

    AND ONLY MORONS, WHITE BOYS AND SUBURBAN KIDS LIKE YOU BUY INTO IT CAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO REBEL AGAINST.

  • LOL

    TO WHITE PEOPLE “MUSIC IS JUST MUSIC”
    BUT TO BLACK PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE A CULTURE , THEY UNDERSTAND THAT MUSIC AND THE CULTURE IT COMES FROM AND INTERTWINED.

    I DONT MEAN NOBODY ELSE CAN LISTEN TO IT , OR MAKE IT, BUT ULTIMATLEY ITS THAT CULTURES MUSIC.

    REGGAE WILL ALWAYS BE THE MUSIC OF JAMACIAN CULTRE, WHETHERE A JEW TRIES TO MAKE IT OR A JAPANESE PERSON TRIES TO MAKE IT.

    YOU’RE SO WHITE AND UNCONCIOUSLY RACIST , YOU’RE AFRAID TO ADMIT TO YOURSELF THAT THE MUSIC U LISTEN TO AND LOVE IS THE MUSIC OF AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE.

    YOU’RE PROLLY ASHAMED THAT UR WHITE FRIENDS WILL CALL YOU A WIGGER.

    YOU JUST CANT ACCEPT THAT BLACK PPL HAVE CREATED SUMMIN THAT TAKEN OVER THE WORLD.

    YOU STILL HATE SEEIN ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE ON UR TV, (BUT U SWEAR YOU LOVE HIPHOP)

    WHICH HARPS BACK TO MY ORIGINAL POINT.

    THERE ARE RACIAL OVERTONES IN EVERYTHING WHITE PEOPLE DO BECUSE ITS SO INGRAINED INTO THEM AND INTO YOUR SYSTEM.

    EVEN ONES THAT SWEAR THEY ARENT RACIST HAVE BEEN AFFECTED.

    REPEAT AFTER ME….”HIPHOP IS BLACK MUSIC. I LISTEN TO BLACK MUSIC”

    FEELS BETTER DOESNT IT?

    CHECK YASELF WHITE BOY.

  • Around and Around

    Real good interview, NY Oil has some interesting views. Any person responsible for Soulja boy et al(Spelling?) I’d love to see fall flat on there face.

  • nujerz

    All this Hip-Hop is a culture etc, the proper term is that Hip-Hop is a sub-culture of African Americans and Latino’s. (Mostly African American).

  • Hip Hop Baby

    To Fire and LOL,

    Wikipedia.org states that hip hop is a SUBculture. Yeah, you were both wrong but I do side with Fire about LOL being an ignoramous. Racism is involved in everything and anybody, despite their nationality. Fire, good lookin’ out on those Malcolm X quotes. Real insightful. LOL, ya need to realize that we all have different opinions and different lifestyles that we grew up with. You’re right about hip hop being apart of black or african american culture and reggae being apart of Jamaican culture, but just because Fire listens to hip hop and likes style of hip hop and is a rapper, doesn’t make him a dick rider. LOL, you were also right in saying that language is open to interpretation because everyone twists words around to benefit for themselves but that’s not what FIRE and everyone else are trying to do. You could both help each other if you use one another’s ideas. Peace out and God Bless!!

  • Hip Hop Baby

    Wikipedia.org states that hip hop is a SUBculture. Yeah, you were both wrong but I do side with Fire about LOL being an ignoramous. Racism is involved in everything and anybody, despite their nationality. Fire, good lookin’ out on those Malcolm X quotes. Real insightful. LOL, ya need to realize that we all have different opinions and different lifestyles that we grew up with. You’re right about hip hop being apart of black or african american culture and reggae being apart of Jamaican culture, but just because Fire listens to hip hop and likes style of hip hop and is a rapper, doesn’t make him a dick rider. LOL, you were also right in saying that language is open to interpretation because everyone twists words around to benefit for themselves but that’s not what FIRE and everyone else are trying to do. You could both help each other if you use one another’s ideas. Peace out and God Bless!!

  • CaliBoy

    NUJERZ is right, hip hop is a subculture. FIRE and LOL both have good points though, even though LOL comes off as an ignorant person. FIRE and LOL, you guys could learn from each other if you put your opinions to the side and use each other’s ideas.

  • HipHop4Life

    NUJERZ is right. Hip hop is a subculture. FIRE and LOL were both wrong but they both have good points, even though LOL came off lookin’ like an ignorant person. You two could actually help each other if you put your opinions aside and share one another’s ideas. Sure, hip hop was established in the Bronx and is mostly black or african american and latino culture but that doesn’t mean that FIRE is a dick rider for loving hip hop (positive hip hop probably, which is ok) and wanting to be a rapper. Peace out and God bless!!!

  • Tyler

    All talking heads with no ears. Dats what’s wrong with the industry yo.
    SolutionsGlobalMedia.com aka SGM7.com
    Love it or Hate it, Tell a Friend.

  • clarknova

    Why even try talking to LOL? He’s an all caps using webtard that only ever comes on here to hate, the “6th element of hip hop” as he says. Actually getting off his ass and doing anything of value doesn’t even occur to mental midgets like LOL. Just ignore him, it’s the best thing for everyone (him included. Get a hobby, man). He ain’t ever gonna make sense.

  • Fire

    ClarkNova,
    Yeah, you’re completely right. I laid it out clear as day for LOL and he still wants to retreat back into his ignorance. He says things so dumb that I feel compelled to respond and defend myself.

    Hip Hop Baby,
    Yeah, I can admit that it is indeed a subculure. Thanks for the support.

    LOL,
    I have never denied that hip hop was created by black people, anyone who knows the history of hip hop wouldn’t deny it. I realize hip hop is big on a commercial level. Most music created is, by your definition, black music, from blues to jazz to rock and rap, etc. No shit, Sherlock! But just because they invented it doesn’t mean they’re the only ones that can make it. You asked me how old I am, but you sound like a fourteen year old wannabe gangsta, so check yourself, e-thug.

    I don’t give a fuck what anybody calls me, and FYI, people NEVER call me a wigger, ever, because they can see I’m not fake. I don’t dress or sound like anybody but myself. I don’t care about who’s on TV because I’m not racist. All you can do is use racial epithets and half-baked reasoning. It’s so ingrained into your system that you don’t even know it’s there. I never tried to twist language into anything. Open your eyes.

    P.S. Sorry this isn’t in ALL CAPS so you can understand.

  • http://xxlmagazine.com Cal

    AMAEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!!!!!!! MAY EVERY SOULJA BOY, HURRICANE CHRIS, PLIES, THE DUDE THAT SANG POP LOCK AND DROP IT AND ANY OTHER CRACK SLINGER POPPIN UP BE HANGED IMMEDIATELY!!!! AAAAAMMMMMMEEEEENNNN!!!!!!!!!!!

  • LowEndofDaChi

    Yo Fire, stop ethering that clown.

    Allow me to put something into perspective, I’m from the “hood” and listen to everything from Cannibal Ox and EL-P to Jeezy and Wayne.

    Drop all the lame net-posturing, times are changing.

  • MZA

    “AMAEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!!!!!!! MAY EVERY SOULJA BOY, HURRICANE CHRIS, PLIES, THE DUDE THAT SANG POP LOCK AND DROP IT AND ANY OTHER CRACK SLINGER POPPIN UP BE HANGED IMMEDIATELY!!!! AAAAAMMMMMMEEEEENNNN!!!!!!!!!!!”

    that’s so fucking ignorant, and hypocritical, it’s not even funny.

    No one should be lynched. That’s a human life right there, these rappers you and NY Oil speak of purely entertainers. NY Oil, get your head out of your fucking backpack, and turn off the Digable Planets album. You’re not Cool Like That. All of his ignorant fans should then proceed to move their heads from his anus.

  • LOL

    MZA Says:

    September 17th, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    “AMAEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!!!!!!! MAY EVERY SOULJA BOY, HURRICANE CHRIS, PLIES, THE DUDE THAT SANG POP LOCK AND DROP IT AND ANY OTHER CRACK SLINGER POPPIN UP BE HANGED IMMEDIATELY!!!! AAAAAMMMMMMEEEEENNNN!!!!!!!!!!!”

    that’s so fucking ignorant, and hypocritical, it’s not even funny.

    No one should be lynched. That’s a human life right there, these rappers you and NY Oil speak of purely entertainers. NY Oil, get your head out of your fucking backpack, and turn off the Digable Planets album. You’re not Cool Like That. All of his ignorant fans should then proceed to move their heads from his anus.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    EXACTLY , HIS FANS ARE JUST AS STOOPID AND MAKE EVEN MORE GENREAIZATIONS ABOUT HIPHOP. AND THEYRE SUPPOSED TO BE HIPHOP FANS…SHIT IS SAD

  • Fire

    Look, I don’t know NY Oil’s music, I just agree with what he said. Hip hop needs some more good MCs. I realize making good songs matters more than just talking, because people with all talk and no action are full of shit. There’s a difference between buying into his program and agreeing with some points he made. You can’t generalize things into certain labels.

  • N.O. 4 life

    for the record soulja boy hurricane chris and pliesd is not the thing wrong with hip hop

  • Around and Around

    CAP LOCK

  • http://www.myspace.com/nyoil NYOIL

    let me just interject a few things here.
    I read most of the comments..
    first off
    Hating – Grow up. What sort of man or woman can u be and not have some sort of HATE for something that u know is wrong or don’t agree with. For that matter then if u take objection to my hate that makes you a hater and thus u should shut up.
    A person can disagree with something or someones position respectfully.. and even aggressively for sound reasons. Know the difference between that and just rank hating.
    Hating is when someone is doing their thing and not getting in anyone way.. or causing any disruption to anyone and then some clown is hating on them from a point and place of jealousy.
    This is not the space and the place NYOIL is in.

    MZA.. homeboy.. lol.. all that slick talk about backpacker this and that… u sound real stupid. When u see me .. when u hear me u are hearing a GROWN ASS MAN speaking about things GROWN MEN deal with. REAL LIFE and REAL ISSUES.. see right now u living at mommys house in your room on her computer tryna be an armchair Rap scholar. You should be humble and shut up ..
    they have a saying.. better to be quite and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and prove them right.

    As for the song .. Lynched.. What?!?! I am so tired of you weak types who are so quick to jump up and defend these rappers whom you nut ride… why.. cause someone got tired of these clown ass fake gangsta types and stepped to thier business lyrically and musically?.. what?? u mad?!?..lol… and what about all these rappers..talking about the Drugs they sell.. and the killing they’ll do, have done?? what about that?!?..
    that aint a problem
    well do the research How many deaths were result of Lynching in our nations history?
    How many from the Drug Trade? How many from Gang violence? how many Lives are utterly Destroyed to this day from a CRACK epidemic that occurred in the 80′s that is STILL rocking the ghettos.

    Homeboy.. u have no idea.. cause u live in some fantasy place in your mind.. for u the things these cats lie about is Entertainment.. exactly.. But for people like myself.. this is what we LIVE.. we live in the repercussions of this crap. So pardon me for standing up for MY PEOPLE.

    If your scared ass is to weak to man up and stand up for yourself.. and your people.. that shut your punk ass up and step to the side.. before you get ran over.

    my name is NYOIL and I approve this message.

  • LOL

    NYOIL WILL BE PERFORMING “NIGGAS SHOULD BE LYNCHED” TO WHITE KIDS AT ROCK THE BELLS NEXT YEAR.

    WELL DONE NY-OIL. YOU SUCCESSFULLY USED BLACK ISSUSES AS YOUR GIMMICK. I HOPE IT MAKES YOU LOTS OF MONEY.

    WHAT RAPPERS “LIE” ABOUT DOES HAPPEN IN REALITY, THATS TRUE. SO THEYRE WRONG FOR TALKING ABOUT IT?

    THEY DONT MAKE PEOPLE DO IT.

    DAMAGED PEOPLE DO DAMAGING THINGS. IT HAS LESS TO DO WITH ENTERTAINEMNT AND MORE TO DO WITH POVERTY, DISAFFECTEDNESS, POOR EDUCATION , THEIR TERRIBLE SITUATIONS AND LACK OF OPTIONS.

    NOT CAUSE OF WHAT SOME RAPPER SAYS.

    YOU ARE A BLACK BILL O’RIELLY IF U BUY INTO THAT SHIT.

    BLAMING POOR PEOPLE AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR THEIR SITUATION RATHER THAN THE GOVERNMENT? ARE U A BLACK REPUBLICAN?

    YOU’VE BEEN AFFECTED MAN.

    CHRIS ROCK SAID BLACK PEOPLE HATE NIGGAS WORSE THAN THE KKK AND ITS SAD AND TRUE….YOUR SONG IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.

    RATHER THAN ATTACK THE FOUL GOVERNMENT , THE SHITTY GUN LAWS , THE LACK OF SCHOOL FUNDING, AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER REAL ISSUES.

    YOURE ASS DECIDED TO ATTACK FELLOW BLACK PEOPLE TO GET PUBLICITY.

    NICE FUCKING GIMMICK DUDE.

    SIGN OFF

  • Fire

    I never thought I’d say this, but LOL actually made a good point. Still, it’s Fire: 2, LOL: 0.

  • Fire

    And NY Oil also made some good points.

  • LOL

    WHO NEEDS THE KKK WHEN U HAVE NY-OIL.

    WHY DONT U JUST GO ON THE O’RIELLY FACTOR NIGGA?

  • http://xxlmagazine.com Cal

    Let it be known to all whom are in denial about these fake ass rappers deteriorating just as fast as they arrived! ITS GONNA HAPPEN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!! That phoenix effect or whatever is true and its also social darwism the world spins like that. Sooner or later the planet will switch its axis and a relapse will occur and a new order of rap will be brought forth. I’m N\not NY’s fan but truth be told homies the only place retarded dance tracks will ever be found are in night clubs only once things come around. Don’t like it? Too bad!!

  • lol

    ^ white boy

  • Fire

    LOL=generalizing racist

  • LOL

    BLACK PEOPLE CAN’T BE RACIST DUMBASS

  • kritiq

    NY oil is a faggot period, and he speaks nothing new that I have not heard before same shit on fox and all other white owned media outlets.

    NY there’s always two sides to a coin and you are fuckin bias with your generalisaion.

    how you gonna bomb on rappers without talking about the music execs,distributors and the fucken labels making millions off the music, talk about the radio dj’s putting out the trash music and who pays them to do this shit.

    take your bull some where else and bring us real problems to solve not lynching niggas if there’s nigga’s to be lynched you should be the first.

  • LOL

    NYOIL = KING OF THE GENERALIZING HIPHOP “FANS”

  • LOL

    SELF DEPRICATING HIPHOP = BORING

  • Nas

    This is the reason hip hop is dead. I made an album based on an open-ended, philosophical statement, “Hip Hop is Dead”

    It was seen the same way as NYOIL’s Lynched song…AS A GIMMICK RATHER THAN SELF-EXPRESSION

    It was and still is way over your heads…I’ll bet some of you would say the same thing about Pac’s Brenda song or the Self-Destruction song.

    HIP HOP IS DEAD!

  • N.O. 4 life

    nas

    opinions on here dont represent all thoughts of listeners equally…you made hip hop is dead and that was the way you felt…i disagree with the fact that its “dead” but dont disrespect you for you stating your opinion on a situation because thats basically what your job is….it may have been over some heads but not all

  • Fire

    LOL Says:

    September 18th, 2007 at 9:17 am
    BLACK PEOPLE CAN’T BE RACIST DUMBASS
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    OK, that was one of the dumbest statements I’ve ever heard of. I didn’t know for sure, but now I know that you are a fourteen year old wannabe gangsta. Of course black people can be racist, any race on this earth can be racist.

    Race is a man made barrier that needs to be taken down, but stupid (or as you say, STOOPID) people like that wouldn’t want to do that, would you?

  • Fire

    LOL, let me know if you’d like to end racism.

  • yaboy

    damn. fire sonned the shit outta dude..

  • FuckUPayMe618

    smh @ Ny Oil haircut. Ni66a look like he got a Happy Meal box on his head

  • whatever

    nothing is goin to change you fools. these same wack rappers will continue to make a living (nothing wrong with that). why can’t somebody just make some paper why does that person have to be talented. i hate people like nyoil cause all they do is hate stop worrying about the next man and make something dope.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Newton

    MZA! you little punk!

    NY Oil also appeals to some inteligent thinking black folk, who scratch beneath the surface of superficiality that you seem to embrace – you bitch!!!!

  • that nigga

    This NEGRO is the biggest asshole. He does have some points sometimes, I will give him that and he’s very intelligent. But I dont like the fact he tried to play Nas out with that N album. Dude was goin hard on Nas for what? Cause he has a platform, an international (no pun on NYOILS name) platform and dude cant even get a deal. Get a life NYOIL.

  • the G.O.D

    PEACE
    Money used to be part of the UMCs; got dissed by the WU; chumped Shyiem or something like that.

    PEACE