Keep Jose out of Newark

Illegal immigrants who rape children should have to be deported, right?

Normally, I’d think this is the kind of issue we could all agree on, but this is, after all, the kind of site where you have kids trying to argue that the murder of 3,000 innocent (though arguably less innocent than I am) people in the World Trade Center is justified because of police brutality and what about all of those Catholic priests who fuck little boys in the ass? As if that had anything to do with the price of tea in China.

Plus, I know a lot of you fruits are “latino” and hence may fall victim to the same sense of tribal bloodlust that’s led the Jena Six to become such a cause celebre in the black community. So what if a five year-old girl has to get fucked in the ass every now and again. That’s what she gets for her ancestors involvement in the slave trade. And to tell you the truth, I’m beginning to warm to this line of thinking. Someone get me an application for al Qaeda already.

No but really, I bring this up because I recently read about the situation in Newark, New Jersey, with the murder of those poor college kids by some illegal immigrant, and I know this week we’ve been discussing how otherwise simple matters of justice and law and order can be confused by the issue of race. My guess is that hardly any of you would attempt to justify the rape of a child or the execution-style killing of three college students, but quite a few of you are in favor of the policies that allowed this to take place.

If you haven’t heard about the situation in Newark, basically this guy Jose Carranza lined these four kids up against a wall in a school yard and shot them all in the back of the head, just like they did the Jews in the ghettos of Poland during World War II. (Note: Happy Rosh Hashanah to all of my Jewish readers!) Three of them died, but I guess the fourth one somehow managed to survive, not unlike how Suge Knight was able to walk away from the ambush that ultimately led 2Pac to die 11 years ago (yikes!) today.

Which begs the question: Um, why? To be honest with you, I spent a good eight minutes just now doing research on this issue and I couldn’t find out why. Usually when you hear about some shit like this there’s drug money involved (just like DJ Drama’s mixtape operation), but all of the media sources I could find made it a point to note that these were upstanding college students. I do know, because I read about it in Newsweek and Pat Buchanan’s State of Emergency, that these latino immigrant types have some particularly nasty gangs that have been known to behead people and all sorts of shit.

The fucked up part about it is that this guy Jose Carranza should’ve never been free to walk the streets in the first place. For starters, he should have never been in the US in the first place, but that’s a topic for another discussion. But even before he made the University of Delaware short three diversity recruits (come on… Delaware? Where the fuck is Delaware anyway?), he had been picked up at least once before on a violent crime as well as for the aforementioned child rape, which I’m sure was pretty violent as well, not that I have a mental picture or anything.

The reason he wasn’t given a one-way ticket to somewhere hot and hopeless back when he beat up someone in a bar, let alone when he guaranteed some poor young girl an eventual career in the adult entertainment industry (which I suppose could be viewed as a favor to me in a fucked up, round about way) is because he lived in the shit hole that is Newark, New Jersey, which is what is known as a “sanctuary city.”

In case you haven’t heard of this phenomenon, a sanctuary city is a city that has adopted the policy that they don’t give a fuck whether you’re in the US legally or not. If 5-0 picks you up for a crime, they don’t bother to check whether or not you’re a legal citizen of the US, even if said crime is the brutal rape of a five year-old girl. Though you get the idea that this policy only applies if it’s your child that’s the one in question, rather than, say, the child of a prominent member of the business community or a politician. Also, I hope they can at least set their openmindedness aside for motherfucking Arabs. Isn’t there an airport in Newark? Come on!

I’m sure our good friend TPAR can come up with some bullshit-ass reason why 5-0 shouldn’t even be able to run the info of people who are out there doing no good anyway past La Migra, but I think we all know the real reason comes down to a matter of politics. Without having even been to Newark (god forbid!), I’m gonna go ahead and guess that there’s lots of “latinos” and hence it wouldn’t be feasible politically to pass a law that might result in one of their cousins having to be sent back to Peru. In fact, I’d be willing to bet up to $5 on it. Does that make them morally responsible for that poor child’s rape and now these three grisly murders? I guess that’s for Allah to decide.

Finally, I think you all know where I’m gonna have to go with this, as much as it pains me.

With this being a big election year, and with this being an important issue in the black community, if not quite on a par with a black man’s right not to do any time for swelling some kid’s eye shit, not to mention the fact that it’s been all over the news for the past several weeks now, I figured it’d be interesting to see what the great black (-ish) hope had to say about all this. I consulted Google, but I couldn’t find anything other than a letter to Barack Obama urging him to sign legislation cutting off funding for sanctuary cities, which I took to mean that he’s in favor of them. But I don’t want to speculate too much about the Senator.

  • Mike Milz

    Umm wow first

  • Moe Real

    Ayo Bol: I ethered TPAR already. Like 10 posts ago. You can stop trying to bait him with lame political shit.

  • M.INFAMOUS

    1st I agree, excellent post this was a unprovoked act of senseless violence that the media hasnt covered as good as they should..But the US does have a immigration problem that needs to be solved..because not every one hopping the border is coming just to provide for there family…

  • BklynBandette

    Bol, you did it this time. You FINALLY wrote something to make me agree with you whole heartedly.

  • KMay

    Ha TPAR is gonna have his hands full.
    Like i always said: TPAR vs. Bol is on the same level as Pac and BIG

  • paece

    deport them all. everyone knows

    immigrant—>murderer

    every immigrant in this country is a murderer. that’s a fact

  • http://myspace.com/jonnielasvegas JonnieLasVegasakaColdSteele

    I think it’s fucked up what happened, but trying to pin this all on immigration is very uneducated & irresponsible. Just like all blacks aren’t gangbanging, dog killing, drug dealing, athletes, not all illegal immigrants are sorry ass, child raping, beheading gangster, putos. But in this generation the brown man (primarily latino & arabs) are the new black man. We’re shitted on by blacks like blacks were by whites before. I date black girls & have been told by their fathers that they’d rather have their daughter date a white man than a beaner (racist fags). But it’s all good I guess you really do become what you hate! Even without the illegals, latinos are the fastest growing population in the US (We takin’ over, sing along, lol), but recieve little if any acknowledgement as far as television, radio, & politics…I mean politricks, are concerned.

    It’s now acceptable & almost expected to crack jokes about mexicans & arabs, but if you crack a black or white joke you’re a racist, bigot, or just a plain jerk?!?!
    And now you got all these rich black kids actin’ all hood, just like the rich white kids hip hop grew up clowning!
    It’s ridiculous that you make it a point to mention latinos & arabs like we’re the only ones who commit crimes, that’s very white of you! Yes, I know it all comes down to race, unfortunately, that’s the world we live in.

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  • LowEndofDaChi

    I have no real opinion on immigration either way, but I’m curious as to one thing: Is it a fact that there are a significant amount of violent crimes where the suspects are illegal immigrants in these “sanctuary” cities?

    If anyone could answer that I’d appreciate it.

  • Around and Around

    What’s immigration really have to do with what happened to those students? Everyone knows it was MS-13….the new ‘black hand’

  • LowEndofDaChi

    PS,

    Anyone but BOL, b/c its clear that statistics and factual data aren’t your style homie

  • adam

    Thanks for wishing me a happy Rosh Hashana.

  • Who Dat ?

    What if TPAR and BOL were one and the same?….hhhhhmmm

  • og bobby j

    In my opinion, illegal immigrants should be deported…simply for the fact that they are in this country illegaly! I dont even want to hear the bullshit about how the majority of illegal immigrants are law abiding citizens cause there is no proof of that.

    Having said that…the reason this piece of shit killed these kids was not because he was an illegal immigrant…it is becuase he is a piece of shit.

    So, I think the focus should be on punishing the assrag that did this…..and possibly start to take a look at the ramifications of our acceptance/negligence with regards to our immigration policies.

    Personally….as long as my lawn gets mowed and there are no water spots after the car wash….i got no immediate issue

  • Enough IS Enough

    DEPORT THEM ALL. YOU CANT WALK INTO A HOUSE AND CLAIM RIGHTS TO BE THERE.
    IF SOMEONE ENTERS UR CRIB AND SAYS I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HERE WHAT DO YOU SAY? IMMIGRATION IS THE SAME.

    THE GUY WHO LET THAT PIECE OF SH9IT GO SO HE COULD KILL 3 BLACK KIDS SHOULD BE PUT TO JAIL.

    THIS IS A BIG SHAME, ILLEGALS GO HOME. NOBODY WANTS YOUR CRIMINAL ASSES HERE.

    I SUGGEST IMMEDIATE EXECUTION IF YOU’RE PART OF MS 13.

  • getmoney

    this guy should go to jail and no one would argue against that (he deserves the death penalty)but stop with the lame race baiting. you have done this before and is okay to hate hispanic people but to make it sound like all they do is rape people is nonsense.

  • ignorance will kill u

    for the record Mexicans should not have a problem with blacks. We were not apart of the war of 1847-1850 when the USA slaughtered santana, his troops and the remaining innocent mexicans that were left to die before being forced over the illusion of a border…Mexicans were here first and should not be oprressed

    Yes i’m black and love it!! But, i’m educated thats the diff..and the dude who commited this crimes was peruan not mexican

  • Cuban Link

    Boll, needless to say, I am a Latino, but unlike 99% of them, Im legal.I was born in Newark and lived there for 7 years before moving to Queens, not to give a quick night to those internet stalkers out there (no homo)

    And a better reason that Newark doesnt give a fuck is that if they did throw out all illegal immigrants, whoops there goes 2/3 of their population, and there whole work force at that.The brick city is full of illegal immigrants.

    I cant fucking stand those illegal ones though, the other day i dropped my cell phone in the street and it got run over by some illegal fucking mexicans in a pickup truck, and now I need to give $50 to insurance for a new one.When they get into my pocket is where I draw the line!

    and its sad what happened to those college kids, but seriously, them illegal Beaners are fucking crazy!They make those Asians in downtown Chinatown in Manhattan look like those fruits from Cherry Hill.The reason cats like Jose will never get deported is if he does, hell just sneak right back in.At least if theyre here the NJ police force can set up a conspiracy to have him assassinated.

    Because we all know how fucked up and corrupt NJ is.

  • dimello

    ^^ ohh shit u callin em beaners wow.. and u a wat a refuggee pr maybe somebody in yo fam iz lol,u should see in cancun mexico alot of this banana boat refuggee cubans in jail for trying to cross da
    border just like mexcians and any other latinos , lol

  • johnny little

    “BRICK CITY” STAND UP>

  • laughing hard

    the brown man gets shitted on by the black man? lol…okay buddy…how many dominicans, ricans or mexicans (even the confused black ones)want their daughter with a black man either? stupido. and last i checked the ghetto was still overstocked with black folk as well as the jails, so please do not overexagerate this black utopia just because you watch the hills on bet. stupido.

  • VLsteve

    i quit reading this shit when you got to “so what if a 5 yr old girl has to get fucked in the ass” you sick, nigga

    rag on sum “sand niggers” i don’t want to hear this bullshit

  • get an education you dbag

    Here is a not so simple solution. Stop consuming crazy amounts of cheap shit and forcing money hungrey corporations to do anything to keep that money coming in. America is addicted to foreign or and worthless cheap shit. Anything to get the green and that means let foreign criminals walk our streets unchecked. Yes america is a nation created by thieves and built by slaves so what kind of fair play and normalcy do you expect.

  • jeff

    I date black girls & have been told by their fathers that they’d rather have their daughter date a white man than a beaner (racist fags).
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That’s why I bust hot jiz on their daughters faces and have a hidden video camera in the room with me.

  • VLsteve

    and ‘parently today is fuck two pack day. but how much can be said bout the nigga, hah?

  • jeff

    i think getting rid of illegal immigrants could have an adverse affect on minorities that think they are equal to whites when they make 50 grand or more a year (well, blacks I guess) and capitalist ass racist caucasites. I don’t think elitist black people and white supremacists would like that shit too much, because minorities will start dropping out of school at a larger rate and bypassing college to work right away without going to college. the concept of college has been pushed down black childrens throats to the point to where they feel like if they don’t get a degree they have to catch a football, dunk a basketball, or spit some bars. A lot of black colleges would suffer a percentage dip in enrollment (Bethune Cookman & Fisk for example) and close down. Ending illegal immigration would give black people way more financial options, and bougeoise black folks dont wanna see that, and white folks most def don’t. A lot of labor and construction jobs would open up for a lot of people that would regularly rob & mug you for your duckets…but with more people working and being able to work a couple of odd jobs and make an HONEST living…thats gonna reduce crime and crack on the streets (not eliminate, but significantly lessen), which is gonna reduce the police force (white boys will lose their jobs and the city wont give the police as much money as before) and dry up them white boys’ drug money. It’s too much of a domino effect, and the government in America needs reckless black and latino communities for cats like Giuliani (Past Tense) to clean up shit and be able to run for office. The illegal immigration shit has never been a moral issue, its all about the cheap labor that people called wetbacks and spics provide. Truth be told, a black man knows he has more worth to a white employer than a latino man, and will not settle for pennies like a lot of immigrants would. Typically illegal immigrants don’t speak english as well as a black person born in America, and white people think they are slow and only know how to work (kinda what they thought about us when we were straight off the boat), but if forced to…Mr. Charlie would make Tyrone a manager if he really had to. Humberto ain’t getting no managerial position though. Especially if he no speakeh deh ingles. Not even trying to be funny, but if you go into a Chipotle, you will see the latinos/latinas cooking and wrapping up your burrito, but there will be a white guy or gal rocking a polo shirt that is the manager or owner of that location. You might see a black or asian manager, but not a latino. Only in Amerikkka will you see a mexican chain restaurant with no mexican owner. Rowdy ass rednecks don’t run the country, they are only on the outskirts of your town. They could give a fuck about a buck “Just git Wilfredo’s wetback Chimichanga ass outta here!!!” is how they think, but those white folks that are enterprizing and running multi-million dollar businesses and corporations are about maximizing their profit. Those businesses ultimately stabilize this country’s economy, so with that being said…illegal immigrants ain’t getting tossed out just like that.

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso aka The New Millenium Kareem Akbar

    yeah dudes a dickhead and will get killed in jail if nothing else, nobody here likes dat shit, u keep street shit in the street, those were school kids, they ain’t even officially get a chance to say they made it yet…

    but it wasn’t just him, he had a lil squad of youngins wit him, everyone sayin it’s some MS-13 shit cause it seemed more like an initiation type thing if nothin else, the hospital that girl is at, is literally cop-land right now……

    this shit won’t stop no matter how much police intervention is factored in….i swear this shit is like a graveyard!

  • The Spaniard

    Jeff,

    That is one of the most accurate posts I have ever read. Motherfuckers preach college as if that is the end all/save all. Learning how to think, that is of ultimate importance.

  • T.R.E.Y.

    you know Bol, as a Republican (or fascist as some of you deranged leftoids’d put it) i can’t help but think that your nicknames for dude are pretty lame, but posts like this give me some appreciation for your political thinking.

    even if you’re a fatass hermit.

  • dolo

    Toilet bol u fell off man .. They were headed to delaware state as freshman so they couldnt be upstanding college students if they hadnt attended college yet .. What does being an illegalimmigrant have to do with being a nutjob?? It’s sad when folks want to label and stereotype because of certain events.. Stop trying to be overly witty, you’re starting to sound like a fool and you buying into the divide and conquer nonsense that has been employed since the beginning of time

  • ron_burgundy

    you are Bill o’Reilly’s brother… Damn, I didn’t expect this much b-shit outta your mouth.

  • just_bleezy

    yeah, shoulda be Boll o’Reilly

  • Jax

    Eeehhh, reactionary. Crappy. Not anywhere near up to your usual standard. Full of logical fallacies. I’ll up your knowledge game for you.

    The availability heuristic is a rule of thumb, heuristic, or cognitive bias, where people base their prediction of the frequency of an event or the proportion within a population based on how easily an example can be brought to mind. In these instances the ease of imagining an example or the vividness and emotional impact of that example becomes more credible than actual statistical probability. Because an example is easily brought to mind or mentally “available”, the single example is considered as representative of the whole rather than as just a single example in a range of data. Several examples:

    - Someone arrives late and says: “Sorry I’m late—I hit every red light on the way here.” Here the aggravation of the red lights made them seem more prevalent than they actually were.
    - Someone argues that cigarette smoking is not unhealthy because his grandfather smoked three packs of cigarettes a day and lived to be 100. The grandfather’s health could simply be an unusual case that does not speak to the health of smokers in general. [Esgate, 2005]

    Now for you exercise, apply that to your argument about the link between illegal immigration and the incidence or potential of violent crime.

    Chau

  • Rich Arte

    ^^^I am a Latino, but unlike 99% of them, Im legal.

    lmfao.

    @ToiletBol…you are a pathetic chester.

  • http://www.erealitycheck.blogspot.com EReal

    Why dont you and TPAR just fuck n get it over with, you’re like obsessed with this cat. *SMH* So Homo.

  • these posts are racist

    >>>>>Normally, I’d think this is the kind of issue we could all agree on, but this is, after all, the kind of site where you have kids trying to argue that the murder of 3,000 innocent (though arguably less innocent than I am) people in the World Trade Center is justified because of police brutality and what about all of those Catholic priests who fuck little boys in the ass? As if that had anything to do with the price of tea in China.

    How disingenuous of you. Nobody can justify the murder of 3,000 innocent people. When people discuss the “reasons” why someone or a group do something, that doesn’t mean they are “justifying” it. There is a difference between a “reason” and an “excuse” or “justification”. Moroever, when people bring up the Catholic Church and pedophillia, it is to show you the problem with linking all Catholics or Christians to pedophillia, just as it is problematic, bigoted and factually incorrect of you to link “Muslims” or “Islam” to the bull you link it to. Think about it bitch.

    >>>”Also, I hope they can at least set their openmindedness aside for motherfucking Arabs.”

    So are you saying there should be laws created that treat people differently based on race or national origin?

    Perhaps you can revise the Jim Crow laws to reflect Arabs instead of blacks.

  • http://www.byroncrawford.com/ Bol

    >Now for you exercise, apply that to your argument about the link between illegal immigration and the incidence or potential of violent crime.

    How about I do a story on the kind of people who read a story about failing to deport an illegal immigrant who raped someone and took it as an argument against illegal immigration in its entirety, and then I’ll apply your “heuristic” or whatever to that.

    This despite the fact that I’m pretty sure it even says in the story that the overall issue of illegal immigration is a matter for another discussion.

    To make it as plain as I can possibly make it, for the TPARs of the world:

    No one’s saying that every illegal immigrant who ever came here was a violent criminal, but if one was to stab or rape somebody, why shouldn’t we deport them?

    And, please, save the obfuscation for your college freshmen-level social sciences professor.

  • Jax

    Funny part is, I’m not at all suprised that you know how to use the word obfuscation properly in a sentence.

    That being said, the greater point here seems not to be the fact that he wasn’t deported, but the fact that he wasn’t properly punished. In fact, in light of the crime it seems unlikely that deportation would/could be anything other than a miscarriage of justice. To give you a more “available” example: imagine if you were in some way related to said molestation victim, would you prefer that (a) the perpetrator be simply let go at the border, (b) handed over to mexican authorities in whom you have less confidence in than the American system, or (c) prosecuted to the fullest extent of US law.

    “Sanctuary” as you pointed out above, means that they do not check your illegal immigrant status, not that they are not allowed you to prosecute you for harm done. So methinks that your story is missing a vital piece, i.e. how and why he beat the violence and molestation charges to end up back on the street in the first place. Perfectly understandable in your quest to be a xenophobe, but nonetheless evident of the type of disorganized thinking that seems to explain both the bush presidency and your misguided backpacker love for all things wu-tang…

  • campz

    da bricksss

  • these posts are racist

    I make a comment, BOL doesn’t respond to it, but responds to others he has labeled the “TPARS of the world”.

  • http://www.byroncrawford.com/ Bol

    >I make a comment, BOL doesn’t respond to it, but responds to others he has labeled the “TPARS of the world”.

    Your comment didn’t show up on my shit until just now. Stop acting like a woman.

  • http://www.byroncrawford.com/ Bol

    >Moroever, when people bring up the Catholic Church and pedophillia, it is to show you the problem with linking all Catholics or Christians to pedophillia, just as it is problematic, bigoted and factually incorrect of you to link “Muslims” or “Islam” to the bull you link it to.

    I believe the problem with pedophilia in the catholic church ultimately arises from the bullshit nature of the catholic religion, just as I believe that the Muslim tendency towards violence can ultimately be linked to the violent nature of the Muslim religion, which is not to say that all Muslims are violent terrorists. Just like all catholics aren’t on that plan where you fuck for two weeks and then you get head (or, more likely, stroke it) for two weeks.

    >So are you saying there should be laws created that treat people differently based on race or national origin?

    I’m saying that people who are over here illegally to begin with and the get caught fucking ought to be sent back where they came from, but if we’re not going to send home hispanic people who fuck five year-olds, we for damn sure better do somewith crazy Arabs who plot terror attacks.

    Finally, feel free to respond to the question that I put forth to “the TPARs of the world” just now.

  • these posts are racist

    >>>I believe the problem with pedophilia in the catholic church ultimately arises from the bullshit nature of the catholic religion, just as I believe that the Muslim tendency towards violence can ultimately be linked to the violent nature of the Muslim religion, which is not to say that all Muslims are violent terrorists. Just like all catholics aren’t on that plan where you fuck for two weeks and then you get head (or, more likely, stroke it) for two weeks.

    Your characterization of what Islam is, and what it condones, is wrong. The reasons why people commit violent acts, varies. Just because a group characterizes itself as “Islamic”, it doesn’t mean they are committing acts of violence because it is mandated by their religion. People can use anything to justify their actions. Many slave owners used Christianity to justify their actions, as did Hitler. Taking the actions of Al Queda or whoever and using that to define Islam (a diverse religion with over 1 billion followers) is just illogical and not accurate. You take it further and call people like Lupe Fiasco terrorists, based on what? Exactley. That’s just plain bigotry my brother.

    >>>>I’m saying that people who are over here illegally to begin with and the get caught fucking ought to be sent back where they came from, but if we’re not going to send home hispanic people who fuck five year-olds, we for damn sure better do somewith crazy Arabs who plot terror attacks.

    Its sad that you can’t see how bigoted you are. Justice is supposed to be blind. You don’t treat people differenlty based on their race, religion or national origin. Generally, if an immigrant who is here illegally is prosecuted and convicted of a crime, the US will usually force them serve out their sentence here (a deterrent) then place them in deportation proceedings to be sent to their country of origin.

    “Crazy Arabs”…you’re such a bigoted bitch.

    What should be done to “Arabs” in your opinion?

    >>>Finally, feel free to respond to the question that I put forth to “the TPARs of the world” just now.

    I think you mean to this question: but if one was to stab or rape somebody, why shouldn’t we deport them?

    Again, the US will usually prosecute them, cause them to serve out their sentence, then place them in deportation proceedings.

  • Around and Around

    Bol Says,
    No one’s saying that every illegal immigrant who ever came here was a violent criminal, but if one was to stab or rape somebody, why shouldn’t we deport them?
    —–
    No problem wiht deporting any illegal, but none of you simple fucks realize we don’t have secure borders. What is the point of deporting anyone with an open border?

    You’re bailing water out of a boat but not plugging the hole.

    -and since every American will give an opinion on shit they have no idea about (it’s documented) I’ll learn you fools something, the best Economic studies show that if the immigrants coming into a country are on a different educational, social and workforce level than the majority of the people in that country, then it benefits the people in the country. But most are to blinded by there ignorance and hatred of anything non-American (whatever the fuck that is) to look at an issue with some intelligence.

  • Gutta

    something is really wrong with you bol

  • Justin Kase

    Bol and TPAR are like Kanye and 50 debating….there are no winners. You both try too hard (no homo).

    TPAR, you remind me of the substitute teacher that nobody listened to, and Bol is the class clown…..and you keep trying to teach him. Give it up, he’s a lost cause. You’d do better writing to YN and asking for a guest spot.

    Bol…sooner than later your words will slice you like a Ginsu….and hungry squirrels everywhere will rejoice.

    Basically what I’m sayin is…Bol’s opinion should be given as much regard as toilet paper after it has swiped an asshole…and TPAR just keeps smellin the shit. lol

  • Fernando

    Actually TPAR,

    Many illegal aliens who commit crimes just post bail and either border hop back to their country or get some sort of fake ID in a sanctuary city.

  • Fernando

    Basically what I’m sayin is…Bol’s opinion should be given as much regard as toilet paper after it has swiped an asshole…and TPAR just keeps smellin the shit. lol

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Ha Ha. You aint lying. TPAR is on a crusade to prove that there is no link between terrorism and Islam. Or that Terrorism doesnt even exist. The only problem is that for every womanly post he puts on this crappy blog, there is some crazy muslim blowing some sh!t up in the world.

    Calm down you angry muslims.

  • these posts are racist

    “TPAR is on a crusade to prove that there is no link between terrorism and Islam”

    The irony in this statement is lost on this dipshit.

  • LowEndofDaChi

    “we for damn sure better do something with crazy Arabs who plot terror attacks”

    As I recall, Al-Quaeda’s starting line-up of terror on Sept. 11 was made up of mixed ethnicities. Why not reflect accurately on the circumstances instead of relying on shock value to get your point across? Are you not versatile, or is it that these blog posts are a vehicle for you to express some underlying frustrations (No Elton John).

    And seriously, what are you suggesting, if anything? It seems as though you’d rather see the offenders in question sent back to their homeland as opposed to dealing w/the terms of justice on US soil. But to deny the victims’ families as well as their communities closure, well, wouldn’t that be unjust, or as my mans before me said, a “miscarriage of justice”?

    Alot of questions, I know. But I’m just sayin’.

  • Justin Kase

    Toilet Bol is full of shit (pun intended)

  • LowEndofDaChi

    “Many illegal aliens who commit crimes just post bail and either border hop back to their country or get some sort of fake ID in a sanctuary city”

    Fernando, is this based on any factual data or a personal generalization?

    I don’t think this site supports statistics unless its for the discussion of first week record sales. I’m just sayin’.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >Your characterization of what Islam is, and what it condones, is wrong. The reasons why people commit violent acts, varies. Just because a group characterizes itself as “Islamic”, it doesn’t mean they are committing acts of violence because it is mandated by their religion.

    Oh, and I suppose it’s just a matter of coincidence that you see so many beheadings, sexual disfunction, suicide bombings and what have you in that part of the world.

    And yet you don’t see shit like that in the US. I wonder why that is… It must be because the US is racist. Yeah, that’s it.

    High fives all around!

    >Its sad that you can’t see how bigoted you are. Justice is supposed to be blind. You don’t treat people differenlty based on their race, religion or national origin.

    Yeah, but I’m not saying the punishment for plotting to kill thousands of innocent people should be any different depending on whether the person who did it is an Arab.

    I’m in favor of deporting both the Arab who’s plotting the next 9/11 *and* the hispanic who’s eyeing your five year-old daughter. But if we only go after one, lets pick the Arab. Unless it’s my daughter that’s the one in question, then fuck it.

    Certainly, law enforcement must have to make such decisions all the time due to lack of resources, no?

    >Again, the US will usually prosecute them, cause them to serve out their sentence, then place them in deportation proceedings.

    That’s hardly an answer to my question, and that’s not what I understand goes on in these sanctuary cities.

    Should illegal immigrants who commit violent crimes be deported or not?

  • these posts are racist

    >>>Oh, and I suppose it’s just a matter of coincidence that you see so many beheadings, sexual disfunction, suicide bombings and what have you in that part of the world.

    Sexual dysfunction? Hu? What does that have to do with the killing of innocent US civilians, which appears to be your issue. Again, analyze a particular situation and let’s have a real discussion. “So many suicide bombings”, etc. is just weak man. People on either side of a conflict use different tactics to inflict casutalites on the other side, “suicde bombings” are used by some groups who don’t have other methods of delivering bombs to the “other side”. This has nothing to do with Islam.

    “And yet you don’t see shit like that in the US. I wonder why that is… It must be because the US is racist. Yeah, that’s it.” What are you talking about? I bet if the US was occupied by a foriegn army, and we didn’t have any planes or tanks at our disposable to defend our land, homes and families, you’d see people in the US doing a whole lot of stuff to defend themselves. Look how vengeful and full of hate people like you get when discussing 9/11. Think man, think.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    Way to dodge the issue TPAR!

    As far as the likelihood of suicide bombers in the US, what about the entire history of black oppression in this country? Back in slavery, you didn’t see Juba and Mose strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up the big house, now did you? In fact, there’s all kinds of fucked up shit going on all over the world, and yet you don’t see more suicide bombers anywhere in the world than you do in the Middle East. I wonder why that is…

  • these posts are racist

    What issue did I dodge? Clarify and I’ll respond.

    BOL, have you ever heard of Nat Turner?

    How do you feel about the innocent Iraqis and Afghanis who get killed by US bombs, tanks and bullets?

  • og bobby j

    DAMN TPAR you love them Iraqis and Afgans…..you stay wonderin how cats feel about all the “innocent” victims the US kills. WHat do you think has killed more “innocent” IRaqis….US bullets or civilian car bombs? Why you care so much for those people and yet you show no regard….no defense…and no support for the INNOCENT american lives lost due to the fucked up middle east….You are a fuckin flag burning terrorist lover…..or atleast you want to be

  • Father Figure

    Bol doesn’t like sanctuary cities. There’s a shock! Bol would rather live in a world where hard working people who, through laws they had NO HAND in creating, are unable to use police, fire, or medical services. We’ll call this world “Bol’s utopia,” or “Boltopia.” I bet immigrants would assimilate well in that type of society. Sounds like a fin place to live.

    As an aside, I mentioned this in the first paragraph, but I’m curious: why do people think that undocumented immigrants are morally reprehensible simply because they aren’t following laws they didn’t create? They don’t get to vote on our immigration policies. They are invited here to work by our corporations. For the most part, they come here to work hard and give their children a better future. Would they be more morally acceptable if they stayed in their native countries, where their children would be relegated to a future of poverty and despair? Isn’t their proactivity a desirable trait? As for “law breaking,” please, feel free to chastise immigrants if you have never violated our speeding laws, our traffic control device laws, federal controlled substances regulations, and municipal codes.

  • Tonelocilla

    “I think illegal immigrants should be sent back because they got in this country illegaly.” That shit got to be the corniest shit ever. That’s like saying: “Black people should stop getting welfare because they abuse the system or lie on welfare applications.” Oh yeah, the same people listening to music that glorifies drug dealing(illegal) Gang bangin(illegal) Robbing people (illegal) Black Person: “crossing the border is intolerable. They takin’ the jobs we don’t have or want” “I don’t like them beaners cuz they slang harden than us” “They be the ones comin thru in the 2007 SUV on 28″ rims, I’m still in my 1982 Chevy on 18s. Fuck them beaners. You know all black people hate everyone but their own kind, they are starting to warm up to WHITEY though. FUCK WHITES AND BLACKS ALL THEY DO IS COMPLAINT

  • these posts are racist

    OG Bobby J,

    I’m what you call “morally and logically consistent”. Anyway, remember when you were in the pen and you stuck up for that sherm head…and those skinheads charged you “10 box of smoke”, that was pretty noble of you man.

  • Father Figure

    “In fact, there’s all kinds of fucked up shit going on all over the world, and yet you don’t see more suicide bombers anywhere in the world than you do in the Middle East.”

    Have you ever heard of Northern Ireland?

    “just as I believe that the Muslim tendency towards violence”

    Yes, Muslims have a tendency toward violence. Christians? Na, Europe has never even been involved in a war.

    Bol, help enlighten me; the “shock and awe” campaign wasn’t terrorism because….? The second battle of Fallujah wasn’t “violent” because…?

  • og bobby j

    YO TPAR,
    remember that time when you couldnt respond to what i said …..

    you say
    “I’m what you call “morally and logically consistent”

    NO no my mislead youth…you are what i called “a fuckin flag burning terrorist lover”

    prove me worng and answer the questions i set forth….

    WHat do you think has killed more “innocent” IRaqis….US bullets or civilian car bombs? Why do you care so much for those people and yet you show no regard….no defense…and no support for the INNOCENT american lives lost due to the fucked up middle east????

  • Father Figure

    TPAR says:
    “Nobody can justify the murder of 3,000 innocent people.”

    OG Booby G says:
    “you show no regard….no defense…and no support for the INNOCENT american lives lost”

    Clearly, OG’s ain’t as gully as they once were…

  • Jax

    >Back in slavery, you didn’t see Juba and Mose strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up the big house, now did you?

    Whoa, lets back up. Had blacks in slavery decided this as a possible strategy would you have faulted them? We’d likely (undoubtedly) see them as freedom fighters. It has nothing to do with Islam (although christianity is definitely a slave masters religion and any christian who is also black is automatically questionable as a critical thinker). The difference between the Arabs and the Black Slaves of yesteryear is simple, black slaves were subject to opression with a level of viciousness that is simply not possible in today’s world of excessive media coverage and international human rights pressure. You’re probably right that, had they had the equipment, Kunta Kente would not have bombed a damn thing. However, this is probably greater evidence of the complete breaking of spirit that blacks have experienced in America (and that likely influences the collective nihilism and search for vestiges of manhood that characterizes rap music by the way).

    Put simply, if bush could go to iraq and bomb women and children with impunity, torture, rape and pillage you probably wouldn’t have suicide bombers; instead you’d have people ready to convert to whatever slave masters religion he decided to push at the time.

  • og bobby j

    father figure….unlikely…probably child support dodger…but anyway

    you too respresent the view of the flag burners…

    How about we put you and TPAR explain to me why you have an uncontrollable urge to sympathize with the towel heads….maybe your towelheads too?? Does yours look like there is a baseball on the top of your head?

    Fuckin arabs aint good for nuthin except taxi drivin and blowin shit up….we should just turn the Middle east into one huge glass parking lot….

    They should make Arab commercials like the drug commercials…..This is your life (show a picture of a normal, everyday person)………this is your life on Islam (man with bomb on his chest holding an infant child)

  • these posts are racist

    Nat Turner was a slave who led a rebellion. He and his followers used hatchets, axes and knives to kill any white person they came across. Nat Turner called for the murder of all white people, and they did, in fact, kill white babies, mothers and innocent white people.

    Were his actions wrong? Yes. Does this somehow change the horrible nature of slavery? No. Does this mean all black people are killers or that they ascribe to a religion that causes them to kill innocent whites? No.

    Now, if you want to talk about how “common” something is as evidence that it is inherent in a people’s religion or race as you do with Muslims and “crazy Arabs”, examine how many innocent people have been murdered by white Christians. From the crusades, to slavery, to Iraq and Afhghanistan.

    Now, I suggest you pick an issue, country, act of violence and present it for discussion, instead of your bigoted generalizing that is contrary to moral and logical consistency.

  • LowEndofDaChi

    “Whoa, lets back up. Had blacks in slavery decided this as a possible strategy would you have faulted them? We’d likely (undoubtedly) see them as freedom fighters. It has nothing to do with Islam (although christianity is definitely a slave masters religion and any christian who is also black is automatically questionable as a critical thinker).”

    The realest ish ever written on XXLmag.com

  • LowEndofDaChi

    OG Bobby J, can you read? Not in the sense of word recognition, but comprehension as well. Do you realize that since the dawn of time, you could practically pick any civilization and be able to point out morally bereft methods of delivering/responding to oppression? We could go all day brother, but its obvious that you’re so blindly patriotic that it wouldn’t matter. You’re so weakminded in your analysis of this whole “state of terror” we Americans live in that you jump on the popular bandwagon and are willing to write off all Muslims as terrorists. When confronted with a logical argument, you are only able to resort back to your pathetic blind patriotism (which is more than likely feigned to mask your insecurity/ignorance) and sling stereotypes.

    At any rate its clear that you lack the ability to think critically, and thats whats killing us son. I don’t fear terrorists, I fear my own neighbors such as yourself with voting power and voice and no clue of how to use them.

  • Around and Around

    Bol Says:

    September 14th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
    Oh, and I suppose it’s just a matter of coincidence that you see so many beheadings, sexual disfunction, suicide bombings and what have you in that part of the world.

    And yet you don’t see shit like that in the US.
    —–
    Uhhhh dam do you read the news? You just wrote a fucking post about an execution. Don’t get it twisted American’s Kill, dismember like any other, anyone can easily browse the news for horryfing shit akin to beheadings. Killing a baby girl? Killing a pregneant women? etc. etc.

  • Around and Around

    OG Bobby J, is still stuck way back in Jena, LA running Moon Shine and shit.

    “Hey booooaay that’s the white’s tree”

    Lowendofdachi, nice break down of OG, you diagnosed his ass. You really Dr. Phil or something?

  • og bobby j

    LowEndofDaChi, can you think? not in the sense of critically, but logically as well? Do you realize that the glorious religion of islam, whos great prophet is Muhammid (a known mass murdered) was and will always be correlated to oppression, and violence? we could argue all day hoe, but its obvious your heart bleeds so much for the enemy and you view America as a tyrant, that it wouldnt matter. your so weakminded in your assumptions that the “war on terror” is imaginery…..maybe you werent able to see the the towers fall. Maybe you like jumpin on the popular bandwagon that is the “anti-america” movement and are willing to pass these terrorist acts, and the daily bombings in Iraq, or the foiled plots in England as a small fraction of the “nation of islam” and let it be.
    Maybe I resort to stereotypes…..maybe they’re true.

    At any rate, your willingness to forget that human nature is cruel…and that simetimes its kill or be killed…is what will bring this Country to its knees. Weak, humanitarian faggety pussy like you…TPAR and faground are the reason we will no longer remain at the top…..

    Remember…its better to be the hunter then the hunted…..

  • Town Bizz

    I couldn’t agree with you more. Illegal immigration affects black people the worse. It’s not like we are getting the Doctors and lawyers from these countries where rape, and other violent crimes are far more common than even Newark. I got love for my brown people but not for illegal’s. There’s really only room for 1 majority minority.

  • Fernando

    TPAR, Fagaround, and Bottomendofthehuman live in a fantasy land where tolerance for crazed lunatics yelling “DURKA DURKA MUHAMMED AL BOO BOO JIHAD JIHAD” will lead to world peace. When in actuality it will only give them time to plot and plan on how to destroy anything NOT Islam. They were crazy before we occupied that pile of sh!t called Iraq. They were crazy before the Jews put the beat-down on all those rock throwing thugs from the 7th century who couldnt protect their own land and are still pissed that the West has influence over there.

    Sometimes you just have to accept defeat and make the best of it. Until then, those rag head lunatics are going to get what they want. Which is a thorough beat down at the hands of the modern / industrialized world, unstable governments, and groups of armed militias terrorizing the public for drastic grabs at power.

  • Town Bizz

    It’s a proven fact the 33% of the criminal in the feds are here illegally. A large portion of the sexual crimes are committed by illegal immigrates. A significant portion of drunk driving fatalities are cause by illegal’s. Almost all of the drugs are imported but illegal’s. Like I said not everyone is coming here to build homes. It’s nothing less then an invasions. The Gov’t doesn’t care but Democrats get cheap votes and Republicans gets cheap labor. And these latin countries are making billions while the black community especially in California suffers. The cold part about it is that Mexico encourages it citizen to immigrate illegally yet they have strict immigration policies. If an American tried to do the same thing they would be arrested and deported. If your country is so fuck up stay and try to change it don’t run away from your problems.

  • Town Bizz

    In every corner of the world Muslims are having problems with there neighbors. India, Russia, Philippines, Sudan, France, Holland, Algeria, and Spain. They have a inferiority complex

  • jeff

    Nat Turner was a slave who led a rebellion. He and his followers used hatchets, axes and knives to kill any white person they came across. Nat Turner called for the murder of all white people, and they did, in fact, kill white babies, mothers and innocent white people.

    Were his actions wrong? Yes. Does this somehow change the horrible nature of slavery? No.

    ^^^^^
    Hey TPAR, this doesn’t have anything to do directly with the blog that Bol posted, but I just kinda want to know why you think Nat Turner, Denmark Vessey or anyone else was wrong for revolting and/or slaughtering all those innocent white folks. I think ultimately, acts like that is what led to the official abolishment of slavery. I read up on a lot of lesser known/ less successful revolts that took place for a number of years after the Southampton county revolt and there wasnt much documentation on revolts that occured before that time. I actually remember through my studies that white psychiatrists were moreso occupied with why slaves were running away from their plantations and wrote if off as a sickness called Drapetomania or something like that which was pretty much defined as “the sickness in which makes slaves run away”. Sounds kinda funny, but its funny how they were considered to be scholarly and research never revealed to them that maybe they just wanted to be free. But anyway, I just felt like running away didn’t put fear in white folks back then. I also dont feel like the emancipation was written because white folks just really decided that slavery was cruel and unjust. I think they were scared. Choppin their heads off made them really shook and they didn’t want legions of slaves to get inspiration and ransack their plantations. I know they killed babies and what not, but I really think they were trying to make examples of these people. I think the panthers could have been similarly effective if they were boning all of those white chicks and snorting all of that cocaine. I have always respected Gandhi and King for standing there enduring all of that shit, but I never really felt them. Malcolm, Marcus, and Ali were th cats that I could feel because they put fear in people. I think they are the ones that really shook shit up and gave blacks the pride they needed to not stand there and get their asses whooped.

    I just want more insight. I read your shit a lot and typically agree, so thats why im asking. I am not one of these kids that come on blog sites talking shit from a safe place knowing i wouldnt bust a grape. preciate u man.

  • jeff

    weren’t i meant about the panthers

  • these posts are racist

    Jeff:

    The Civil War and the abolishment of slavery had nothing to do with morality or because those in power felt it was the right thing to do. The reasons are multi-fold, but you touch on a couple. Yes, slaves were getting more numerous and the rebellions more bloody. Moroever, the South began to make a lot more money and the North feared they’d be economically weaker, etc. So two of the reasons were money and fear, but not what’s moral and right.

    I say that it was wrong to kill innocent whites, even though, the horrors of slavery are unmatched in its brutality; (babys killed, women raped, blacks murdered, etc. etc. etc.) because I don’t agree that the ends justify the means.

    While it is important to always understand the reasons why people do something, i believe that the murder of any innocent person, intentionally or recklessly is never justified.

    On a different note, MLK wasn’t all about “non-violence” as they teach us. Towards the end of his life, he wrote and was quoted as saying, something to the extent, that in the end, blacks may have to fight for what they want.

    And Malcolm wasn’t all about violence, and certainley not violence agains innocent people. You see, MLK, believed blacks had no way to win an armed struggle with whites (thus he wasn’t morally opposed to fighting, just didn’t think it was practicle) and considered civil rights, just that “civil”, thus a US dometic issue.

    Malcolm didn’t view this as a “civil rights” problem, but rather, a “human rights” issue that needed to be dealth with internationally through the UN, etc. as other human rights problems are ostensibly addressed. He also didn’t condone indiscriminate acts of violence, but said, if a police dog attacks you, you have a right to kill that dog. That’s just self defense.

  • these posts are racist

    In a nutshell, I firmly condemn the killing of any innocent person. Violence should only be used in self-defense, and even then, should cease once the threat has subsided.

  • CHOP EM DOWN

    MEXICANS LUV MUSLIMS ONE DAY WE WILL RISE AND KILL WHITE PPL

  • mike

    One of the biggest illegal immigrant populations come from the German people. It is mad white people in this country who are illegal. Italians, French, Isreali, but I guess that’s cool. Fuck you Bol, I usually agree with alot of your commentary, but you wrong here for the simple fact that you are not addressing the fact that there are mad white people in this country illegal, and commiting crimes. Do commentary on that.

  • LOWENDOFDACHI

    OG Bobby J-

    How long did you spend in Irag? Have you enlisted? Judging by how tough you are online, you could prove to be a valuable asset over there. Murdering innocent civilians and all.

    You seem to clutch to this ideal that what the US government is doing in Iraq is right, however, how do you explain the backlash that the Bush administration is recently been getting from their own Republican party? We’ve been down this road before, it’s called Vietnam.

    9/11 was a horrible tragedy, of course, but the fact still remains, the Bush Administration still hasn’t been able to provide tangible evidence that weapons of mass destruction even exist over there. Unless you want to consider a few Jihadists willing to blow themselves up weapons of mass destruction.

    The bottom line is this, the whole war was a hustle move in which a false threat was created to instill fear in US citizens and garner our support for the invasion. What the Bush Administration did do right was hijack the 9/11 attacks for the purposes of installing a government in Iraq that would be more likely to comply with oil demands (b/c Saddam wouldn’t).

    So I hope that you and Fernando continue to cling to your empty ideals in this war against terror while Bush and ‘em continue to stack that dough.

    Just sayin’.

  • LOWENDOFDACHI

    Also, I agree with what TPAR has been saying for quite some time here. When you express ideas and viewpoints that challenge the status quo, its usually the idiots unsure of their own position that try to black label you.

    So OG Bobby J (aka unsure bitch that uses words he barely understands the meanings of), instead of adopting easy-to-digest ideals that have been shoved down your throat, try being objective and look at the situation from multiple perspectives.

  • therasp

    i definatly think they should control illegal immigrants… its ridiculous… everyone wants to flee their country because of its problems just to come and create more for us…. america has it’s own citizens to take care of… there are plenty of us who dont have jobs or a pot to piss in and dont give me that shit about they do the jobs no body else wants… i’m currently unemployed and i’ve been workin in temp agencies… the factories they put me in… the hired in workers are fucking illegal immigrants that get to keep their jobs over legal u.s. citizens because they dont pay taxes… don’t have a social security number so they work for under minimum wage… they dont get to do shit for them… but here we are… wanting to be hard working americans but cant fucking compete cuz of these people who shouldn’t be here in the first god damn place….. fucking border jumpers… cant even work with em they dont even speak english… so they hire more immigrants to work with the ones they got…

    … i dunno

  • theRASP

    mike Says:

    September 14th, 2007 at 11:54 pm
    One of the biggest illegal immigrant populations come from the German people. It is mad white people in this country who are illegal. Italians, French, Isreali, but I guess that’s cool. Fuck you Bol, I usually agree with alot of your commentary, but you wrong here for the simple fact that you are not addressing the fact that there are mad white people in this country illegal, and commiting crimes. Do commentary on that.

    thats funny… i never met a german or italian or french person that wasn’t around on vacation or something… where did you get this statistic… your fucking ass you moron

  • these posts are rapists

    i agree with Bol

  • http://Africa.com Africa

    Bol, you have good intentions but you’re stupid and confused. And you’re not going to change until you understand that the concept of “race” need not exist except SOMEBODY is practicing “racism”. Racism is White Supremacy… who “told” you or your ancestors that you belong to a “black race”??? that’s right – the White Supremacists.

  • kevin

    deport all immigrants ? in that case… that includes all crakers and african americans and jews right ?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1269137418 Mike Jones

    America is fast heading down the toilet……