“Acting like he’s white”

“I was your one and only, until I read the news. Now I’m sad and lonely, since I put down the Jews.” – Jesse Jackson

I wasn’t even aware of this until last night, when I was over at my parents’ house having a beer and watching the Real World, but today there’s a big-ass protest down in Louisiana over the railroading of the Jena Six.

I guess this is what Mos Def was talking about on Bill Maher the other day when he said he was going to get a shiteload of people to go down there. I know he sent out a call to Jay-Z and other such industry heavyweights to join him, but I guess Jay-Z felt the best way he could contribute is to highjack the day’s media with the announcement of Kingdom Come 2, or whatever it’s called.

Nah, to his credit, Jay-Z probably just didn’t know. Like I said, I didn’t even know myself until last night, and you guys know I spend my every waking hour combing the Internets for contentious race issues (or is it just that I’m that good?).

According to a story on the front page of today’s Post-Dispatch, the key to knowing you were supposed to wear black and/or head down to Jena, LA today was to listen to a radio station that plays the Michael Baisden program, and why would anyone who’s into hip-hop be listening to the Michael Baisden program? I know this shit was hardly mentioned on either of the two hip-hop stations here in the STL (I know…), so there might also be a lesson in this about the ridonkulous generation gap in the black community.

Speaking of which, the cracka-ass cracka political blogosphere is abuzz today with some shit Jesse Jackson said about Barack Obama. I believe it was reported in a newspaper down in South Carolina, a key primary state, that Jesse Jackson said Barack Obama was acting like he’s white, because he hasn’t done enough to draw attention to the situation down in Jena.

But now Brother Jesse is claiming he doesn’t recall having said that, which suggests to me that a) he’s growing senile in his old age (which could be comedy gold in the coming years), or b) this could be a situation like back in the ’80s, when he referred to the Jews as “hymies” in a conversation with a black guy from the Moonie newspaper that he thought was off the record. And it probably was, but how are you going to trust a black guy from the Moonie newspaper?

At any rate, many cracka-ass cracka pundits, who can’t stand Jesse Jackson, are suggesting that this may signal some sort of shift in the black community away from traditional, Jesse Jackson-stlye ambulance chaser politics. As if Barack Obama purposely decided to keep his mouth shut on this Jena thing so as to distance himself from the likes of Jackson and Sharpton, or perhaps to purposely throw them under the bus the way Bill Clinton did Sista Souljah.

Hmm…

To his credit, I should note that Obama’s campaign did release a statement re: the Jena Six. For the record, Barack Obama is against things that are bad, like racism, and for things that are good, like equality… and ice cream. And for what it’s worth, I’m not aware that any of the other candidates on either side of the aisle are headed down there, though presumably they’re all against racism as well.

You wonder though if Barack Obama may have tripped not going down to Jena with the rest of his would-be cousins. As I recall, there was a moment on that episode of Real Time when Mos Def mentioned that he hadn’t heard much from Obama re: the situation in Jena. It looked like Cornel West was about to launch some horse shit excuse in his defense, but then he didn’t – likely because he couldn’t come up with one.

Personally, I’m pretty much at a loss here. You fruits know I’ve never been much of a supporter of ambulance chasers like Jackson and Sharpton. But at the same time, I can’t help but think that Brother Jesse might have a point. If Barack Obama expects black people to vote for them, he should speak to the issues that most concern them, regardless of how silly they may be. You get the idea that Obama may be betting that black people will vote for him regardless, because he is, after all, black (-ish).

How many of you ‘bags are gonna prove him right? 

  • these posts are racist

    How dare you dimiss Sharpton and Jackson as “ambulance chasers” and dismiss the Jena 6 for what it is: injustice.

    America needs to own up to its past and make right what it has done to blacks. To view this incident and say “they hung nooses on a tree, big deal, why are these kids upset”, is to deny the hundreds of years of forced labor (slavery), segregation and the many times blacks were hung by nooses, and their white murderes were let go.

    The white kid who was beat up attended a “school function” that evening, which suggests his injuries weren’t life threatening…hence the reason the attempted murder charges were dropped so quickly.

    Your dismissal of all of this is just historically out of place.

  • Fire

    Jesse Jackson needs to shut up. Him and Al Sharpton are hypocritical ambulance chasers that couldn’t care less about their race, and those with discerning minds can see through it.

  • Fire

    At the same time, I’m glad Mos Def and others are rebelling against the mistreatment of the Jena 6. The punishments the Jena legislature attempted to enforce violated the 8th Amendment and were incredibly wrong and racist. The racism that went on down there is reprehensible. It shames me to know that people can still be that racist in the 21st century.

  • Around and Around

    What’s with the Sharpton and Jackson hating? I thought that shit was reserved for Faux News, and all the other douche bag editors…

    Rather than just one weak ass insult (Ambulance Chaser’s) state your case? Why are these two so bad bitches?

  • lslelel

    Sorry man, Im pissed at this. I don’t think you have a fucking clue about what you are talking about here.

    Do you want Obama to just do what you want him to do? or do you want him to become president? If he marched today in Jena, he would be completely fried in the press and a national election. He spoke out about it, but he can’t do what Jesse used to do. Look where that got Jesse.

    Actually, Sharpton and Jesse should get their shit together and realize that marching in Jena today is their role right now. They are the ones that can do the real mobilizing.

    If he marched today, it would allow the Republicans to make everything he says to be a race issue.

    There is strategy here that you should respect, but you got blogging deadlines, I hear that.

    Anyways, where’s Russell? where was BET before today? why the fuck hasn’t the global industry that hiphop has built been able to deal with some of the real problems in this country? You are all going around, blogging, playing dumb videos, and just standing around the culture wanking off at every sales figure, but there is no unified voice. You guys don’t believe in unity. You are all spectacle.

  • boner jams 03

    i i actually agree with u bol….fuck votin 4 someone just cuz they black..thats ignorant…

  • N.O. 4 life

    sharpton and james mean nothing to me because they bring more attention to little incidents such as don imus instead of the bigger issues that i have to do with…such as the massacre of the african american male…in my lifetime what have either of them done to actually help progress african americans?

  • http://xxlmag.com houston’s finest

    free the jena 6!!! those racists fucks in jena are some dickheads for real!!

  • Joe

    I think it is important that we support our brothers and sisters instead of increasing the divide amongst us.

    Continuously mentioning trivial issues such as questioning ones “blackness” causes separation and that separation prevents any black person from becoming empowered. Especially as it pertains to the presidency of the U.S

    “The thing to do is to get organized; keep separated and you will be exploited, you will be robbed, you will be killed. Get organized and you will compel the world to respect you”. –Marcus Garvey,

    I don’t listen to the radio at all, however, I have been well aware of this situation due to the internet and email since the beginning of the year. If you’re surfing the net as much as you proclaimed, I have no idea how you could have missed it until today. It’s momentum has increased sevenfold within the last few weeks. Then again, it could just be that I associate with people from alternative news sources. FYI, if you’re really interested in being kept up on situations like this, go to playahata.com.

    I’m no fan of Jesse Jackson nor Al Sharpton. However, you have to acknowledge that these brothers have contributed to the African American community for decades and THEY GET RESULTS when they get involved. One thing I dislike is when family criticizes other family members in an open forum where people outside of the family can take things out of context and run with it.

    And yes, though I am sometimes disappointed by the behavior of family, I know that my brothers and sisters share a common enemy which strengthens our bond.

    So from Barak, to Jesse and Al, to Ms. Peaches of “Fry that chicken” infamy are all my brothers and sisters. However, the latter appears to be misguided.

    In closing, my opinion is that it isn’t necessary for Barak to go to Jena. Politically, it could be a detriment to his run towards the Presidency. Secondly, if I recall correctly, the brother had been involved in community activism and I’m sure the eveidence can show that he still is. Lastly, if you don’t vote for Barak, who are you going to vote for; another white male who has only benefited from being white in the United States and who’ll never understand nor empathize with the plight of African Americans?

    PEACE

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >Do you want Obama to just do what you want him to do? or do you want him to become president?

    Obviously the latter.

    Can my mom be vice president?

  • Real Talk

    I will for one vote for Obama.

    As a chicagoan with personal knowledge of Jesse jacksons douchbaggery him and Sharpton attaching themselves to this as spokesmen at last minute to me just destroyed what the youth’s reaction to this event could have been.

    This has been going on for months now and the movement was brought to light and spearheaded by the younger generation. The story was spread through blogs, bulliten boards, myspace and the first known people to publicly speak on the situation were the younger generation (mos def, bloggers) and that pushed it into the mainstream media and started organizing protest.

    Then what happens…. all of a sudden I have to watch Jesse and Al on TV all day preachin on the situation, but where were they before the camera’s showed up. Id rather see mos def and fred Hampton II crazy asses marching with a bandana on spouting crazy ish about 9/11. Than have these two ambulance chacers representing me.

  • Doobie

    Wow isn’t this ironic…I just sent an email to a friend about how Jesse and Al are a bunch of bunch of opportunistic, ambulance chasing, douche-bags. It was in response to Jackson’s criticism of that “Read A Book” Rap video parody, but here Jesse goes proving his douche-baggery once again with his comments about Obama regarding this Jena situation. There is clearly an injustice here, but I really don’t see where most black people are fired up about this situation, and I don’t knock Obama one bit for not going down there to protest. It seems to me like there is a little too much “nuance” in this case for the people at large to get really passionate about it. It’s bullcrap that people like Jesse and Al only show up for something when there’s an opportunity for them to get press by complaining about a particular incident where racist whites abuse blacks. We *need* to fight against such injustices, but where the heck are they any other time? That’s as much bullcrap to me as blacks getting into an uproar when there’s harrassment or abuse at the hands of the police, but those same people are silent as hell when we bust each other in the head leaving each other dead in the street. Where’s the uproar about that? And I like Mos, but he sounded pretty kooky at times on that Bill Maher episode. I get the impression that what Obama is *really* doing is staying centered enough in the political spectrum to actually get elected.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >How dare you dimiss Sharpton and Jackson as “ambulance chasers” and dismiss the Jena 6 for what it is: injustice.

    I’m not even sure what that sentence means, but Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are ambulance chasers because that’s what they do: find opportunities for them to get on TV.

    Look at how they all but convicted those kids down at Duke, then come to find out that she made the whole thing up. Same thing with the original Tawana Brawley incident back in the ’80s.

    How come there was no big-ass march when those four college kids got shot in the head in New Jersey?

    Hmm…

  • LowEndofDaChi

    @lslelel-

    “Actually, Sharpton and Jesse should get their shit together and realize that marching in Jena today is their role right now. They are the ones that can do the real mobilizing.

    If he marched today, it would allow the Republicans to make everything he says to be a race issue.”

    Really good points.

    It would be a damn shame if Jesse made those comments about Obama. As blacks, we spend so much time criticizing each other instead of actually trying to uplift each other.

  • unknown

    Bol
    Obama could have went down there spoke, wore black and still wouldn’t got black people to vote let’s face it most don’t vote. Secondly don’t even listen to the views of the runner. We just know to vote Democrat. On the Sharpton and Jesse those two are real house slaves. They got the approval to go and protest this situation. At first they was not trying to touch this one. And people please stop calling this two dudes black leaders. I can’t support them as leaders. Leaders go at issues that really matter regardless of televison airs it or not. X and King was the Last black leaders. Panthers was on there way but was shut down real quick. These dudes get a list to choose from and can only pick 5 things to talk about. Once this is over then they are going to go at OBAMA so we don’t vote for him. I look at the Jena situation as this town been living like 1955 for this long do you think they are going to change the living situation down there now. Nope! I hope dude is giving a fair deal but the town will go back to colored only living.
    COrpeRAte Takeover.

  • redd

    Fuck Al sharpton never trust a black man with a perm

  • Fernando

    Jackson and Sharpton are jokes. Ha ha ha h ah ah ah.

  • Fire

    So far, BOL’s ethered TPAR.

  • Jax

    Obama is a national politician. It would cheapen him a bit to be used as a voice for local matters without national law implications. As a black man, I’m sure he feels for the Jena kids, but as a viable presidential candidate he simply cannot use his campaign to address such a local matter.

  • these posts are racist

    From another writer
    __________________________________________
    The national spotlight is falling on Jena, a rural Louisiana town. Six black teenagers are being charged with attacking a white teenager after a racial provocation. According to the AP:

    “The six teens were charged shortly after the local prosecutor declined to charge three white teens who hung nooses in a tree on their high school grounds. Five of the black teens were initially charged with attempted murder, but that charge was reduced to battery for all but one, who has yet to be arraigned; the sixth was charged as a juvenile.
    The kid who was badly beaten suffered a swollen face and lost conciousness. He was did attend a “school function” that same night, indicating that his injuries were not necessarily permananent.”

    Based on what little I know of the case, the initial charges of “attempted murder” seemed extreme, which is why they were lowered so quickly. But more important questions are coming up. Protestors are raising an issue about the selective application of “justice.”

    The controversy is an interesting one. Thousands of people from all over the region came to the city to protest the disparate treatment of a justice system long rife with inquality. They are outraged the noose hanging was not punished and demand leniancy due to what is a clear provocation.

    Many White people look at this situation and see a vicious attack that needs to be punished. They will doubt that historical violations justify a vicious attack by many on one.

    Black people will see this in light of hundreds of years of continuous mistreatment and injustice — and the nooses as one significant symbol of the legal system’s long historical collusion with the forces of racism.

    This view is only exacerbated by the still unresolved demand for justice — for reparations from slavery (coerced, unpaid labor), segregation, and the history of lynching and violence in which local and state governments legalized or tolerated (lynchings were rarely punished). The six teenagers may or may not articulate this view, but any people who suffered such crimes would internalize it and live it out.

    In short, the whites who want to see these 6 teenagers punished have the if-an-alien-landed view, devoid of any historical placement or any crucial context. That is fine for perpetuating ignorance and societal imblance, but it contributes nothing to the legacy of understanding needed to right the wrongs of the past.

    In my moral universe, I cannot see this beating as justifiable. Yes, words and symbols can be painful reminders of the past — and I would classify a noose hanging as a free speech act — though one that should mitigate the punishment of the teens (and I would include their young age as another factor). Just as most school fights go unenforced criminally (usually just school suspensions), this one should too. The students who hit the boy should be punished, and the boys who hung the nooses should be shamed by the school and their peers.

    More importantly, problems like this call for the long overdue step of a major racial reconciliation by the federal, state and local governments. They should issue offical apologies to African-Americans, and offer communal and individual reparations. This may not be complete justice, but it could mark a new era in race relations. And don’t let the Oprah’s, 50 Cent’s, LeBron’s, and Condoleeza’s of the country fool you: the historical crimes this country was founded on are still unaccounted for.

  • Around and Around

    Bol Says:

    Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are ambulance chasers because that’s what they do: find opportunities for them to get on TV.

    Maybe if white people stop giving the opportunities there will be nothing for these two to do?
    —–
    Look at how they all but convicted those kids down at Duke, then come to find out that she made the whole thing up. Same thing with the original Tawana Brawley incident back in the ’80s.
    ——-
    Look at Sharpton in 1985 Bernard Goetz case, in which Goetz, a white subway rider, shot four black youths whom he thought were going to rob him, and in the 1986 Howard Beach case, which involved in the death of black man named Michael Griffith, who was hit by a car and killed in Howard Beach, Queens, after being chased by the white mob.

    -Point being that not everything done was wrong.

    —–
    How come there was no big-ass march when those four college kids got shot in the head in New Jersey?

    Or why haven’t they marched for the 1,000′s of other murders that happen on the regular? March every day right for the murder, car jackings, armed robbery, beatings, etc etc? That doesn’t make them consistent huh Bol?

    You’re logic is as fucked up as your fat grill.

    Hmm…

  • nigger ass nigger

    is about all i have to say you wanna eb racist well be racist back, your filthy niggers that dont know hwo to act, you destroy everything you touch, your liek a disease, your violent and cant fight unles sin groups, hense the jena 6 it takes 6 of you to beat one unconcious white guy? that is attempted murder, if you kick someone in the face when there down, its attempted murder niggers, white or nigger its attempted murder.

  • nigger ass nigger

    so baraka o bama is acting leik a cracka because ehs a professional and is acting liek all the presedential canidates and not leik some common street monkey robbign and sellin drugs, shootin ppl for no apparent reason

  • Around and Around

    Actually this shit Bol writes sounds a lot like another bitch ass ‘sports writer’ Jason Whitlock. ESPN magazine’s manager thanked Whitlock and I think this exact same thanks can be given to Bol to.

    Instead of Jason just insert Bol:

    ESPN Magazine general manager Keith T. Clinkscales, “The mainstream media thanks you, Jason because by attacking Sharpton and Jackson you are doing the dirty work that no white person can credibly do. It is such an annoying chore to find enough black journalists around to credibly disseminate the type of disinformation that helps people look away from the real problems and focus on the irrelevant….You are not agitation. You are flowing with the currents….You are breaking no new journalistic ground by speaking your version of truth about black men. Your apocalyptic notion of young black men as the ‘new KKK’ again fuels fear, confusion and hatred.”

    Bravo, Bravo

  • Fin

    I don’t see how anybody can defend the actions of Al (I speak for all black ppl) Sharpton; the man uses any opportunity possible to make it a platform for promoting Al Sharpton. He’s an opportunist and his views are simplistic and sometimes backwards.

    I fully support the rally in Jena and the fact that the national media will be forced to pay attention; but let’s see how many ppl are going to quote Sharpton and his ludicrous assertion that this is the 21st century civil-rights movement all over again.

  • for the record

    cosign lslelel(wtf?)

    obama is protecting his presidency.

  • jeff

    Well come on now, we all know that black politicians have to be sell outs. Barack is wise enough to know that he needs white votes to win more than black votes. Even if every black person 18 and older came out to vote on election day, that still wouldn’t be enough votes for him to win the race. Think about how much of this country we DO NOT make up. Also, don’t forget that in addition to whites..Asians have their hang ups about black people also (watch Menace II Society if you don’t agree). He needs their votes way more than he needs the votes of a niggER. Our votes do help a bit though. ELECTORAL COLLEGE people. Look it up. Anyway, I think when Chisolm, Jackson and Sharpton ran for president..they were just trying to make statements. Barack is actually trying to win. White folks aren’t as emotional about this incident as they were with the dead dogs found on Vick’s property, so why would he speak on it? It’s simple. He is a tom. Plain and simple. He hasn’t spoken on the 3/5 issue either. I don’t understand how a black man who is not a tom wouldn’t address that issue. I wouldn’t doubt that there are some white protestors down in Jena representing for our human race, but 99.6 percent of the people rallying in Jena are black, and that’s not an issue that white folks give a fuck about. This is not a time for them to be patriotic or stick up for puppies, so if this isnt a major issue for them…it’s not a major issue for Mr. Obama. Obama is black when it is convenient for his victory, but he is white when it is convenient for his victory. He said some dumb shit like “he wants to run for President as an American and not as a black man”. He’s a cracker. Homeboy already has secret service protection way before any of the other candidates because of his pigment. Barack OTOMa.

  • Around and Around

    jeff Says:

    September 20th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
    I wouldn’t doubt that there are some white protestors down in Jena representing for our human race, but 99.6 percent of the people rallying in Jena are black, and that’s not an issue that white folks give a fuck about. This is not a time for them to be patriotic or stick up for puppies, so if this isnt a major issue for them
    ——–
    So is everyone else down there including Al & Jes. ambulance chasers trying to get in the spotlight also?

  • Fire aka LOL Silencer

    To the guy with the racial slur in his name: Your stereotypes and generalizations are incorrect. You make white people look stupid. The way somebody acts has NOTHING to do with race. Stop your generalizing and misinformed logic about black people. I hate how some people want to bring something as inconsequential as race into every situation. I see people as people regardless, why is it so hard for everyone else?

  • these posts are racist

    It’s amazing how the conversation has turned to whether or not Jackson and Sharpton have good intentions and whether or not their lack of marching for other horrible events makes them hypocrites…when the real issue is the lives of these 6 young African American boys and the injustice system they are being harassed in.

    As BOL says, what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

  • http://hmblog.wordpress.com Reecie

    It’s funny because you go to a white website and there is so much racism when talking about issues like the Jena 6…and then you go to a Black site and there is just as much ignorance about the issues.

    As usual…people sit up here and complain about the people actually DOING something. If it weren’t for the likes of Jesse Jackson Black people wouldn’t have half the rights we have today…but you all seem to forget that. You seem to forget that civil rights were FOUGHT for not handed to us out of the kindness of the good ol’ boys’ hearts.

    You ignorant a$$ people get the opportunity to work for just about any company you are qualified for, go to any school you have the GPA for, and live your life largely without concern for racial politics…yet where is the gratitude for the people that fought for it?

    What if MLK Jr. didn’t capitilize off the Rosa Parks case to make a stand against segregation because people considered it ambulance chasing? The fact is…it’s not for YOU to decide what is a valid enough issue to bring to the forefront. The fact is, any victory against injustice regardless of how small is one that makes it that much better for the rest of us.

    So…before you folks carry on writing your ill-informed and misguided opinions…go pick up a history book and get a clue.

    BOL you didn’t even know jack about the Jena 6 until last night, yet you have the authority to criticize leaders who have mobilized the entire country and brought attention to the cause? Give me a break. You’re a useless joke!

  • unknown

    I guess Jackson is a Leader beacause he was at the hotel with MLK. I wish people would stop considering this dude and Jesse a leader. We have had terrible education issues in urban america, and the NAACP and whoever else that is suppose be for us does not much. Come on Jena should have been on the radar a long time ago like during the civil rights movement. This town is so segregated that if you want a glimpse of the old days drive down south to these small towns. They are all the same. I been to a town in Arkansas where they just painted over the white and colored only sign. The words are visible and the older people still go throught the back door. Like I said before once this is all over the town will go back to slavery and stay that way.

  • http://xxlmag.com DARK

    bol says:
    ” wasn’t even aware of this until last night, when I was over at my parents’ house having a beer and watching the Real World, but today there’s a big-ass protest down in Louisiana over the railroading of the Jena Six.”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    HAHAHAHAHAHA AND THIS STAR TRACK ERKEL FUCK IS WRIGHTIN BLOGS BOUT HIPHOP BOL REALLY DOES LIVE WITH HIS PARENTS.HOW DO U SNEAK BILLY IN UR HOUSE BOL?HAHAH

  • jeff

    So is everyone else down there including Al & Jes. ambulance chasers trying to get in the spotlight also?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I don’t think so. I think the (non-press) people are down there in support of those 6 boys. No one other than the press and fake activists have anything superficial to gain by going down there rallying for those guys. This is a fight for rights for most of the folks down there.

  • Tyler

    >Do you want Obama to just do what you want him to do? or do you want him to become president?

    Obviously the latter.

    Can my mom be vice president?

    ^^^^^^^^^ Huh, no she can’t but she can wax my johnson tho. Dude U another brotha so stop this black on black crime thru the blog bro by coming at Obama all the time until he really does something bad or negative. He is playin’ the game dude, lay back and watch and learn. Jesse Jackson on the other hand. . .Well let’s just say he is coming off like a hater bro.
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  • Fernando

    Around and Around says:

    “Maybe if white people stop giving the opportunities there will be nothing for these two to do?”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What a dumb-f*ck. There in lies the problem. The percentage of the black population that is so worried about blaming white people or getting all fussed up about every thing that isnt fair instead of concentrating on the real problems in the black community, SUCH AS……kids out of wedlock, crime, educattion, etc.

    So some kids are getting a raw deal, who cares? Is protesting this going to change the real problems or issues at hane? NO

    And I guess if “white people stopped giving them something to do”, Jesse & Al wouldnt do anything, because they sure the hell arent anywhere once the controversey du jour cools off. Jokes.

  • Fernando

    Sorry Reecie,

    But as much as the Rev’s did for civil rights back in the day, most of their cry baby rants against white people are falling on deaf ears. There is too much opportunity and too many success stories of minorities in this country to fell bad anymore.

    Grow up, get an education, get a job, and stop trying to blame others for what you arent doing with your life.

  • clarknova

    Both Jesse Jackson and (to a much greater degree) Al Sharpton are story chasing opportunists with a history of corruption (again, mostly in Al’s case, God love ‘im). They have also done much for the black community, no one can doubt that. They’re complex men whose true motivations are often hard to divine, but I think that generally, despite their camera hogging nature, they mean well. Sometimes, as in the case of the Duke Lacrosse players (or the recent rap lyric controversy), they’re wrong. But sometimes- like in the Jena 6 case, as far as I can tell- they are both needed, and right. TPAR, an argument can certainly be made that both Jesse and Al are in it for the press, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves. BUT-They can’t be dismissed out of hand either (looking at you here Bol)!

    OH and PS to the racist bitch whining about the white kid who got beat up, you got the whole system on your side homey. So shut the fuck up and post somewhere else. People here want to talk about how their point of view, and they should be able do it without your bullshit hate, you stupid, stupid, STUPID fuck.

  • Al Sharpton

    40 Bucks a pic and you can have you picture taken with ME…the World Famous Reverend Al Sharpton!!

    Only in America!!!

  • Ace

    Obama is black when it is convenient for his victory, but he is white when it is convenient for his victory. He said some dumb shit like “he wants to run for President as an American and not as a black man”. He’s a cracker. Homeboy already has secret service protection way before any of the other candidates because of his pigment. Barack OTOMa.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Jeff’s right. Two words: Fuck Obama.

  • Ace

    By the way, I’m black.

  • thoreauly77

    i view jesse sharpton the same way i view white radicals (read hippies) during the sixties: once they became comfortable, they may not have stopped giving a shit, but they are stopped being active in a pro-active way (cultural ambulance chasers), or have just become fairly complacent (oh, that’s a hot topic in the black community? consider me there!). i don’t see how any reasonable individual can consider them relevant. they make accusations and do not apologize or admit wrongfulness. tell me how these men are pillars of the community. i want them to be. i want every community to have strong leaders, but these guys are inconsistent at best. tell me otherwise please.

  • kisha

    jesse is full of ish. ok, barack is black so are we gonna crucify him more than white people everytime he doesn’t throw up his fist with a power to the people speech. don’t do that to him; don’t question his blackness because you didn’t hear him comment on the jena 6. if this is what we’re gonna do then i hope he doesn’t win because we’ll tear him down more than anyone else.
    additionally, how do you not know about jena 6? you need to get it together if you don’t. yes, i was clad in my all black today in support of the jena 6. google it and get schooled.
    and by the way, i love hip hop and i listen to michael baisden.

  • kisha

    and how ignorant is it for us to keep calling anything proper, ruly and educated “acting white”. basically, you hate yourself if you say shit like that. get your shit together. asshole.

  • tseliot

    to tpar: your apologist bullshit to which i’ve oft referred has here brought you trouble. i quote:

    “How dare you dimiss Sharpton and Jackson as ‘ambulance chasers’…” Though the sentence continues, your referral to Bol’s comments re: Sharpton/Jackson as “dimiss[als]” (sic) implies that you find something worthwhile about what either of these guys are doing as of late.

    I’d sincerely love for you to respond to Bol’s comments about Tawanna Brawley and the Duke incident. It seems far too convenient that you originally comment on two points of Bol’s argument (Sharpton/Jackson and Jena 6) and then, having been presented with a difficult question, focus solely on one . . . then again, you are a lawyer (or paralegal, or student, or bloghead, or whatever you are . . . )

  • mia

    byron, byron. not sure if you are a devil’s advocate or are you just naive and simple. barack is a candidate that happens to be black – it is not his responsibility to fix all of black people’s problems. he is running for the pres of america not pres of black america. so why should we discount him based on one incident. we can’t tear the man down – either cheer him or don’t – sorry, he or any other president is gonna be at any rally. jesse has no room to talk.

  • these posts are racist

    TSELIOT,

    BOL didn’t present an argument. Yes, I did defend Sharpton and Jackson, but later caught myself and realized I was adding to the distraction at hand.

    Since you’ve asked me though, I’ll respond. I cannot speak for whether or not Sharpton or Jackson are in Jena for self-serving reasons, as I am not them. I can say that whatever their reasons (which BOL thinks are cynical), they have brought international attention to a cause which I believe to be just. For that, I am happy.

    I honestly don’t know enough about the Tawanna Brawley incident and think that all those who jumped to conclusions in the Duke incident were wrong. That doesn’t change what is happening now, in Jena, and the needed attention that Sharpton and Jackson appear to be bringing it.

    I regret defending them, as it’s stupid of me. My heart goes out to the Jena 6 and the unjustice they and their families and all black people in America have been suffering for far to long. Bashing or defending sharpton and jackson is something I will abstain from.

  • these posts are racist

    TSELIOT,

    BOL didn’t present an argument. Yes, I did defend Sharpton and Jackson, but later caught myself and realized I was adding to the distraction at hand.

    Since you’ve asked me though, I’ll respond. I cannot speak for whether or not Sharpton or Jackson are in Jena for self-serving reasons, as I am not them. I can say that whatever their reasons (which BOL thinks are cynical), they have brought international attention to a cause which I believe to be just. For that, I am happy.

    I honestly don’t know enough about the Tawanna Brawley incident and think that all those who jumped to conclusions in the Duke incident were wrong. That doesn’t change what is happening now, in Jena, and the needed attention that Sharpton and Jackson appear to be bringing it.

    I regret defending them, as it’s stupid of me. My heart goes out to the Jena 6 and the unjustice they and their families and all black people in America have been suffering for far to long. Bashing or defending sharpton and jackson is something I will abstain from.

  • thoreauly77

    as far as jess sharpton (let alone obama) forwarding their own agendas, er, defending the 6, it is the duty of every single politico to at the very least discuss how fucked up it is that the 6 are incarcerated as though they are murderers. the fact of the matter is this: the kids that hung the rope are a reflection of the local law, and the prominent leaders need to do something about it. i do not think jesse sharpton, though shedding media light upon the situation, do anything out of morals/ethics anymore. this is where the heartbreak stems. it has little to do with whether or not these guys are failures as black leaders, but how they are failures as leaders in general. as far as the jena 6, i say free them and then give the white boys and the 6 a fair trial, separately.

  • shawquan brown

    revrun alz bez da whitz manz palz

  • John Galt

    If you live in or around New York — which I do — you’ve seen for years how despicable Sharpton is. He’s a bigot and an antisemite who’ll take anyone’s side — provided they’re black. He also steadfastly refuses to acknowledge or apologize when he’s wrong, or when he flat-out perpetuates lies. Jackson isn’t far behind — Hymietown, anyone? The best way they could help their race is by going away. Every time they open their mouths, they simply stimulate negativity based on their complete ignorance and thinly veiled hatred.

    As for Obama, I have nothing against him. But take it from someone who worked in state politics for nearly three years, he’s just like all the rest in that he’ll say anything and everything — provided he thinks it’ll get him elected. He has no shot against Hillary, who’s far more polished at this skill and will likely be our next president. Personally, I don’t plan to vote for either, but the candidate I pick won’t be all that different in this regard.

  • Busarah

    Many off you shit heads in here seem not to even see the bigger picture,fuck all these politicains and lets bring the situation at hand.

    The topic should stay on wether this shit is wrong or right and if these kids should get the treatment they diserved,but this whole situation just showed me how divided this fucken country is how did this shit become an exclusivley black rally, where the fuck where all the other so called Americans spics, mexicans, whites, Asian.

    Are’nt all these other races for justice? why do these other races have to sideline themselves on such a national issue, especially the whites with them being the majority does it mean they think what happened to these kinds is just? Iam greatly disapointed at the lack of support from the rest of the so called Americans.

    This rally just showed me how black people are alone in the fight for justice and we can not trust any one not even our own leaders.

    We are officially below the food chain lower than fucken dogs real talk, white niggas rether see dogs get justice than a bunch of black kids and it’s a shame

  • Around and Around

    Fernando Says:
    So some kids are getting a raw deal, who cares? —————
    Nice to see bitch ass Ferrrrrrrnando show his true bigot cracker side. A high school fight and a charge of attempted murder….Who cares right David Duke? I mean Ferrrrnando.

    You’re a dick ridin homo trying to be something you’re not Ferrrrrrnando (Rolling the R)fake ass Latino. Stay losin white bitch.

  • The Spaniard

    “The white kid who was beat up attended a “school function” that evening, which suggests his injuries weren’t life threatening”

    I swear the following question is a serious one…

    Does an attempted murder charge have to coincide with a near mortal injury? What I mean to say is that I could attempt to kill you yet be a piss poor assassin.

    Anyway…

    What I think should have happened, ideally, is that once the nooses were hung from the tree the black folks should have reported the incident and started to raise awarness and action on a national level…and prepared for a violent response.

    The beat down should not have happened…although I probably would have turned a blind eye if I was a witness. Hang a noose funny guy = take a beating. I’m bi-polar like that.

    The T. Bradley incident is taken so far out of context in order to paint Sharpton in a negative light that it borders on being retarded.

    Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are media hounds in my opinion…but, they do serve a positive purpose sometimes.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

    “he should speak to the issues that most concern them, regardless of how silly they may be.”
    ^^
    So you think the situation down there is silly?
    Its a gross statement of racial in-equality and mis treatment.
    How come the guy in Jena said he couldnt charge the students for hanging nooses on the tree, but they just arrested some guy last night for having nooses hanging from his truck? Hmmm…
    These kids, they commited a crime, and they should be punished, the same way the white kids who jumped a black kid down there should have been punished, but werent. Theres some fuck shit going on down there and with 6 kids life in the balance, its anything but silly Byron. Im just suprised Sharpton dosent think this has something to do with HipHop.
    Maybe since they have their “Prime Example” of racism still existing, they can focus on that and leave HipHop the fuck alone for a while and do something worth while.

  • The Spaniard

    Obama isn’t “selling out” either. You may want that negro to put on a Beret and grab an AK but that’s not how shit is done if you want to appeal to a broad spectrum of people in politics.

    You idiots remind me of those assholes in the movies when the villain asks them to join him or die and they stupidly choose to stand on principle and die instead of joining him then slicing the villian’s throat at the first opportunity.

    And what the fuck is “acting white” anyway.

    If that means speaking correctly, placing a high value on education, and not commiting yourself to a cause solely based on a herd mentality, then sign me up.

  • Fernando

    Around and Around says:

    “fernando shows his true bigot cracker side”
    ——-
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    What would this statement make you? Probably a hypocrite.

    And no, I dont care about the Jena 6. I dont know them, and I really dont care about what the crooked law does to them. People get screwed in the justice system all the time. Assault and attempted murder are not that far apart.

    Ask yourself Around and Around a.k.a Crack baby,

    Why do you care so much? Is it because you know some of them? Does the fact that the Revs are pushing all of the buttons of black people that you feel obligated to care? Do you expect anything of substance to change from this event?

    My guess is that you are just jumping on the bandwagon because you cant think for yourself. Just another useless person looking for the latest excuse for why life sucks.

    Your just another uneducated animal goon that follows the herd. You say I need to stay losin, but Im pretty sure that your family is probably poor and stupid, while mine is rich and smart. Stay in the gutter dumb f*ck.

    And why are you rolling the R??? Is that what you did to get your 12 year old latino boyfriend? That was probably the gayest thing that has been typed on this post in a long time. Save it for the guys in the fish net shirts that you want to fondle. Im sure there are some gay-themed blogs you could go to and use that kind of line, but you already know that.

  • these posts are racist

    Something tells me Fern is in Jena wearing a dirty t-shirt and holding a noose.

    Fern, lay of the meth and spam, it’s not healthy.

  • Fernando

    If I dont give a sh!t about the Jena 6 either way, why would I wast my time going down there? Like you always do, you dont understand my comments. I DONT CARE. If they all get off, good. If they all get screwed by the courts, I DONT CARE.

    TPAR, lay off the curry goat and opium. It makes you slow and unable to understand the most simple of sentences.

  • Black and Sometimes Proud

    Jackson and Sharpton only serve their own pockets, they don’t care and never will about what is really going on. If there is camera time, they’re in. If not, they stay home.

    When Sharpton jumped on the bandwagon to destroy the kids in the Duke case, he stayed quiet when they got off. They are innocent, but Sharpton never apologized for what he said. If you look into Sharptons past, you will be surprised how much damage he has done to people and never apologized for what he did.

    Then he bitches about Imus and says Imus never really apologized.

    Well, what do you call a hypocrite?

    Jackson is known to extort as a union leader the construction sites in Chicago.

    I hate them both, they are ambulance chasers and only care about things that will benefit them personally.
    They are not my leaders, they don’t have my approval. They don’t care about me and my issues so fuck them both.

    TPAR is completely wrong, as usual.
    You are trash because your arguments about reparation and reconciliation are beyond absurd. I have a n acceptable life. Sure it could be better, but I made it by myself. I am black and overcame things where most turn to crime. Fuck crime. Fuck you to people who destroy their own neighborhood.
    TPAR, you need to start understanding that there are Blacks who do not live 400 years ago. The year is 2007. Blacks kill Blacks everyday over monetary things. Asian, Latinos and any other minority do not live like we do. This is the biggest issue we as Blacks face in the US today.
    We are about to self-extinct ourselves.
    We can’t lean back and say ‘Whitey gotta pay me for what he did 200 years ago’.

    Do you believe a check cut to people WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY will solve anything? You disgust me.

    I think the Jena 6 thing is very sad. On two sides, though. The attempted murder charge was some shady shit, but 6 kids beat someone unconscious.
    Free the Jena 6?

    What would you say if the victim would have been black? Free them all, because nothing happened?

    The issue is valid, your arguments in favor of letting them look like innocent angels is reprehensible.

    Did anyone bother to check the long crime sheets of two of the 6? Of course not. A black man gets accused and he is considered innocent, because THE WHITES HOLD US DOWN. See R. Kelly, see Michael Vick (you all shut your cheap mouth when he pleaded guilty).

    Take responsibility in your life. Don’t do crime. Go to school. Stay away from criminals. Evolve. If you don’t do that, you will never be free.

  • Around and Around

    these posts are racist Says:

    September 21st, 2007 at 2:17 pm
    Something tells me Fern is in Jena wearing a dirty t-shirt and holding a noose.

    Fern, lay of the meth and spam, it’s not healthy.
    —————
    Ha, you have the dirty white t shirt right, only you forgot dirty Dickie overalls and working on his ‘fuckin tractor’ (said with a Jena accent)

    Fern says,
    Im pretty sure that your family is probably poor and stupid, while mine is rich and smart
    —-
    If you mean your double wide trailor and John Deere…yeah I can’t compete.

  • Around and Around

    The Spaniard Says:

    September 21st, 2007 at 10:55 am
    I swear the following question is a serious one…

    Does an attempted murder charge have to coincide with a near mortal injury? What I mean to say is that I could attempt to kill you yet be a piss poor assassin.
    ———
    I’ll refer that question to my legal dept……….In house counsel? TPAR? Answer?

  • A.D.Williams

    It is injustice to charge the Jena-6 with attempted murder, but they are wrong to have jumped that kid. Maxine Waters said this the new civil rights movement – bullshit. Only 35% of black kids across the nation are proficient in reading and math and all the black community can seem to focus their attention on is the poor persecuted black man. It is the main reason why black man can’t and won’t grow up. Don’t want to charged with attempted murder, keep your hands to yourself.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kinoc Anonymous

    Thanks Bol…Thanks for helping the white people divide Blacks on whether to vote for a black president or not. Thats just great. Hopefully we won’t ever have a black president until you ever get the balls or the brains to run.

  • thoreauly77

    kino/anonymous- some of those tracks were really nice man. keep it up. might wanna look for an engineer though, some stuff sounds murky.

    one

  • thoreauly77

    but hey kino, no white person that was on the line about whether to vote for obama is going to be swayed by bol, so don’t worry. obama needs to start talking policy and stop trying to pander. people want and need a rep to start talking about how they really feel and think and obama is coming up short. right now, edwards gets my vote because he speaks from the heart and talks policy. period. obama i think is feeling too safe in his position because of his race, which seems strange to say actually, but all indications lead me to this. anyone think i’m wrong? say why.

  • queen b

    i am from stl too, and i dont kno how you were not aware of the jena 6. and if u comb the internet for race issues, again i still dont kno how you could have missed something like this.
    stl has a rally at harris stowe and at slu. there were organized bus trips through churches and other institutions.

    and all these comments are ignorant as hell. legally, the jena 6 were charged incorrectly. while they did in fact commit a crime, the issue is not to free them, but free them from injustice. charge them in a just way for the “school fight” that took place. charge the white students for their actions as well.

    while obama should have done something, this issue is not about politics. mos def is right to get irate…. nigg@s can come to shit like the ozone awards, the bet awards, and other bull$hit that makes us look like some ignant coons, but they cant support their own community. i feel like at the next ozone awards, they need to play that episode of the boondocks with martin luther king.

  • InDaStreet Nigga

    Bol, you are nothing but a fat mass of hot garbage.

  • http://cholleybrick.com Cholley Brick

    Jesse says Obama will always be a white actin’ wannabe in his book until he does some real black ass shit like creepin’ out on his wife and knockin’ up some sideline chick.

    Shout out to Jesse’s babymama.

  • Sambo Jiggermonkey

    >>By the way, I’m black.

    Thanks for giving me a reason to ignore your retarded comment.