The Beginning of the End

Since the very beginning of hip-hop, rap music, or whatever you choose to call it, one question was asked, “how long will it last?” Nearing its 30th anniversary, we just might be close to the answer, Nas was correct folks, hip-hop is dead, and looks to stay that way for quite some time. What was once rebel music deemed fit to drive, steer, lead and describe an entire generation, has turned into buffoonery, gotten immature, and has been made a mockery of. Cardboard and break dancing, the DJ and the emcee, two turntables and a mic……. I can count the DJ’s that still use turntables on 2 hands! This shit is a joke that I’m ashamed to be apart of. Lyrics are extinct, beats and hooks are more valuable then ever. Fans use to buy the records, then the labels started doing it for them, then eventually everybody just stopped. The people used to dictate what got played on the radio, now it’s vice versa. The sad part about that is, the majority of these radio DJ’s that force feed this bullshit on us, are grown ass men in their late 30′s, early 40′s. They don’t like most of the shit they’re playin.’ Who really thinks Funkmaster Flex gets in his car with his family and puts Tony Yayo’s cd in?

Hip-Hop is a business on the decline. So much so, that labels refuse to do much legwork anymore, so we can all kiss artist development goodbye. Which means right when we come across an artist with Nas, Jay, or Biggie-like potential, all you’ll get out of ‘em is a ringtone—which is replacing Soundscan by the way. Sell a bunch of those and you become a commodity. In less then 3 years, you’ll walk into the nearest Best Buy, F.Y.E, etc., and there wont even be a section for cd’s. Rightfully so, being that music doesn’t sell, images do. But then again you can’t download those, so maybe there’s still hope.

What we’re witnessing is a bad break up. The love is gone. Artists don’t love the culture, they love the money. Labels don’t love the artists, they love the money. And though there’s enough to go around, too much of anything will kill you, or in this instance, “it”. I had a nigga the other day tell me Rakim was wack. Another nigga had never heard a Tribe album. A few years ago I remember J-Kwon dissin Raekwon for sharing the name ‘Kwon’!!?? Still dont believe me ? You can go on any hip hop message board and you’re bound to read some of the most ignorant shit you’ve ever read regarding rap.

The question now becomes, who killed hip-hop? The artists, the producers, the labels, or the fans? It’s the same as asking, “what came first, the chicken, or the egg?” Who the fuck knows. But to anybody who still disagrees that the art of expression is no longer, next time you listen to your favorite rap song ask yourself: What exactly are they expressing? And why?

  • http://dahshyt.blogspot.com Belize

    >next time you listen to your favorite rap song ask yourself: What exactly are they expressing? And why?

    ^Hip Hop has always been a gateway out of poverty; therfore, as long as corporations keep exploiting them, any regular joe (no pun) will do whatever is neccesary to stablize thier finacial situation

    same thing with any other gateway out of poverty-i.e. sports, acting..etc..

    the problem lies in who has the balls to say “money aint a thing”

    that my friend, has been forgotten in Hip Hop

    (BTW YALL SERVER SUKS THIS MY 3RD TRY AND IM DOME…GOTTA TAKE A MEAN SHYT)

  • http://myspace.com/theofficialprime Prime

    Real talk man I’m grinding all the way from the bottom to the top off my ability not my look. check out some of my music on myspace.com/theofficialprime

  • Real talk

    Nice

  • Joe Sucks

    Hey Joe,

    When’s ur album coming out? Oh right… you suck.

  • Marv One

    REAL TALK

  • Combat Jack

    Great post Joe, except, we’ve been saying this shit on the “nets” for like the past 3 years. I feel your sincerity, but a bit diappointed in that you’re somewhat late to class.

  • AK47

    hip hop isnt quite dead, as it still tops the charts, but it has definetley lost its swagger.

    Why?? because it lost its integrity. Once rappers started making “love” songs and songs that were created to please the masses, the shit was destined to go downhill. Granted, some of these songs have found success, but the overwhelming majority of them lack substance, talent, and/or meaning in a desperate attempt to cash in off the previous success of others.

    Im not gonna say the south is to blame. Afterall, people just want to be successful, and they are gonna be willing to do what it takes. and since the real, raw, hood records aren’t selling, they are gonna adapt.

    For example, Jadakiss and Styles P have put out some of the dopest flows around, but they can’t translate that into dollars, or enough dollars anyway. So what happens?? you got them collaborating with Mariah Carey and Jennifer Lopez.

    But rappers aren’t solely to blame. The takeover of the Internet has changed the landscape not only for rap, but all music. Back in the mid/late 90′s, when hip-hop was peaking, not many people knew what an mp3 was. No Limit Records could make anybody go gold, as people would happily purchase cd’s. within the last 10 years, the Internet has changed the way we aqcuire music. To the point where now most 10 year olds can get your music for free, or at least, without having to purchase your cd outright.

    So that leaves us at the point we are now. Hip-hop aint completely dead, but its headed that way. We could end up lookin back at hip-hop as we do with rock-n-roll; enormously popular at a point, than gradually falling off the map. its kind of reached that point where its either going to sink or swim.

  • frank

    i don’t think anyone will be putting a yayo cd anywhere besides the trash dump.

  • frank

    i dont think anyone will be putting a yayo cd anywhere besides the trash dum

  • 1st biatchs

    well, i think mainstream killed it

  • Were Read 2 Def

    Great Post. Greed killed Hip Hop.

  • Get A BAr

    You hit it right on the nail Buddens. Hip-Hop eats itself… the exec, fans & producers made the artistry disappear. Makes me wonder if they ever were fans of the culture… or just vultures of the money…

    http://get-a-bar.blogspot.com

  • http://www.xxlmag.com mike from the wood

    1st…………. ay fukkkk this go to an artist named- hurricane and listen to the song “ay bay bay” that shit stupid but it’s tight at the same time cause it makes since

  • Reyo

    Real Talk….from an artist at that!

  • these posts are racist

    Joe,

    Your Green Latern Freestyle was ridiculous man, hot, fire.

  • J Millz

    Get ready for all the “Quit hatin the south” and “da south run dis” and “da south eatin and the eastcost aint” bullshit…cause all rap is about today is “havin a fresh pair a shades, makin dat money and urrrbody gettin paid”…and apparrently having a shity but catchy hook and a beat that sounds like atari sound effects with base means your on top of your game. But people who can spit and don’t have a snap in there beat are whack?… And apparrently Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive…I didn’t know that Nas,Jay-Z,Andre 3k,kanye,common,Imortal Technique,Lupe,Talib kweli and many more had died…when did that shit happen…I must live under a rock or sumthin…

  • Latino Thug

    dude!, great post.

    your point is strong but at the same time i really think that we must respect all diferent type of taste.

    for example why we should hate on the south?, that’s the way they been livin’ the culture (candy paints, etc.), that’s the way they expressing themselves, and at the same time now these so called trappers and gangsters always say that they don’t give a fuck about rap, all they care is the money, FUCK to any nigga who say that shit, they not givin’ anything to the culture.

    peace.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mcdanny Danny!

    Tell ‘em Joe!

  • Pancho

    I don’t know if Hip-Hop is truly dead….

    I would try to argue this by saying that unless the hip-hop mc becomes truly extinct…then hip-hop is DEAD.

    When artists like Lupe, Saigon, Common, Kweli, and Joe Budden don’t even exist (or they just can’)…I would say that ‘s when Hip-Hop is in it’s grave.

    just some thoughts….

  • J.R.O.

    Real T, Joe. Three years ago, I wasn’t too worried about all this garbage, but it only grown bigger and gotten worse to listen to. I mean, I’m only 21, but I straight up despise the shit on the radio, and rather listen to an EPMD, or a Kool G Rap. But, all I can do about it is be bitter and look like an ol’ “hatin’” ass to these youngins who don’t know shit.

    Good lookin’ out, Joe.

    Hip Hop — God rest her soul.

  • thoreauly77

    i like the fact that you spoke sincerely. sorry about your label drama.

  • Moe Real

    Buddens!
    Problem with rap is that no one wants to take chances anymore. RZA, that guy took a chance that people would listen to raps about comics and kung-fu. But now, no one takes those chances. It’s just get a hot producer (Blaze, Swizz, Timbo, etc.) and talk about some rims.

    But I’ll tell you what’s really killing rap: I went to buy Mood Muzik 2 and couldn’t find it at my mixtape joint, so I had to pay $30CDN for it in a real record store. $30! No harm though. I got lots of money.

    “You can go on any hip hop message board and you’re bound to read some of the most ignorant shit you’ve ever read regarding rap.”

    You must be reading Billy X. Sunday…

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sin aka Sin Pifferachi

    I share the same premeditated eulogy for the art. Actually it’s to the extent i’m thru talkin bout it on a debateable label, the only reason i will say it’s not dead is the unconditional love i have for it durin my almost 28 bangers here in the world. Hip-Hop has not only help mold and develop me to an extent as a person, but it also kept me outta alot of trouble as a youngin, as well as providing an ever changing soundtrack to my days. I feel its dead due to the “bizness” side of things, but as long as its some dude with a beat-makin program or even analog material who still willing to make a hip-hop oriented track, i’mma still feel inclined to spit to it, even if i would be the only person to hear it, i love the art just that much, unfortunately the “art” in artist has died off many years ago and i guess replaced with a Soundscan slot.

    about time this shit is up and runnin, i was startin to think the shit was up here as a decoration! i read and seen like 90% of ya recent interviews and shit fam, i even seen the trailer for Mood Music 3!

    lmaooo@you givin me the flashback of when you hostin the Hot 97 mornin show and str8 blasted on J’Kwon for stating he was better than Raekwon or whateva the case was for the “Kwon” part of the names.

    Anywayz dont even know if you respond in here, but holla, prosper, and rock, rock on!

    Jer-z Up and Jer-z Out, Live From The Brickz!

  • see dat

    Listen I totally and wholly disagree. Whats dead is the platinum days of rap. Rappers can’t go plat no more but you know what I feel like thats a good thing because eventually cats are going to stop getting into hip hop just for the money. Its really about to go back to cats who do it for the love of it. As much as Wayne gets hate for what he do youi can tell he love to rap and has fun doing what he do. See now is the time that you see who is really down. Everybody can love rap when the getting million dollar checks but when the money gone we will get to see who stay pushin and putting out music. And when rap isn’t the “hot” thing to listen to no more is when you can seperate the hip hop heads from the fairweather fans. So cats can abandon ship if they want cause hip hop’s better without them

  • see dat

    Come on man where is my comment. I typed too much for some1 to just not put it up there

  • ONE50

    Hip hop started out in the park.

    Then go back to the park and press RE-START my nigga.

  • Deez Nutz

    I wouldn’t say Hip Hop is necessarily dead, its just has morphed into something different than what us 30 and over crowd grew up on…you can’t knock the art form for becoming more corporate…it has made careers for alot of dudes that would of been dead or in jail (eventhough dudes seem to get locked up after they make it) but i digress. What is dead now is true lyricism in hip hop by the top artist…Besides Lil Wayne, Ludicris (doesn’t get his due) and Kanye (yes I said Kanye..atleast he says catchy sh*t-mayonaise colored benz call it miracle whip) I can’t think of anyone that has true flow and lyrics that make you rewind the tape (sorry, i mean hold down the back button on the cd player or ipod) Jay-Z don’t count, he might as well be retired. He’s already on Mt. Rushmore of Hip Hop so his motivation is not there anymore. Eminem is too rich and inactive. Scarface can’t get a budget. Mos Def is off acting. Andre 300 don’t know if want to rap or act. Prodigy fell off lyrically. LL is too old to be taken seriously. Rakim is irrelevant to the new school. T.I. can flow but wouldnt consider him a lyricist. Common can’t stay on beat. Am I missing anyone? I think you get my long winded point.

  • Sam

    Word, and fuck J-Kwon, who was first with the name ending on Kwon in the firstplace? Who is it that has inspired some of the best rappers to do maffioso sounding albums?

  • BklynBandette

    Sad, but true. What Can We Do?

  • kalvinLONDON

    Joey not only spits real (shit that goes on his life and not that fake thug shit), but goes onto also illustrate that the nicest rappers are intellectual. Who give a fuck about our culture, thanks 4 dropping knowledge JOE..

    Cant wait for that mood muzik 3 to drop coppin that straight away it better be here in london!!

  • soopadoopa

    Good Shit, now hook us up wit MM3 and the growth cause this shit on the radio now is bogus…

  • Danny

    Joe Budden,

    The best thats living!!

    You know what? fuck that…

    The best of all time… there I said it! what??!!

    Good post homie!! I agree on most of the subjects!

    MM3 bithces!!!

    Can’t wait…

    Ya dig??

  • Cinsere

    Word! (*smh* @ the sheer notion of Rakim being wack)

  • B.N.W.

    That was the realest ish ever blogged!!

  • see dat

    to quote Q-Tip ” I’m a rap nigga for real, catch me in the cipher if i didn’t have a deal”.And to J Millz you the one who putting negativity in the air from jump so don’t try to blame somebody if they defend they area.

  • Incilin

    First and foremost; it’s about damn time. You’ve name has been on the XXL site for columists for a while now. Although I can’t help but shake the feeling that you only started blogging now because Mood Music 3 will be out soon.

    Regrading you general pessimistic tone, although I pretty much agree with you I don’t get the point of this blog. It’s only airing out general feelings and seems more like a last entry then a first. Your as much a pessimist as I am, no doubt, but still. I mean with hip hop being dead, so I guess your hip hop themed blog is dead now too huh?

    As far as people saying ignorant shit; they always said it! Now adays theres message boards for you to go read that shit, before you neva got to hear what those doofs had to say. And niggas always said shit like Rakim is wack. You know why? Cause their fuckin idiots. Its only now with the internet you can hear wha they say.

    So if rap and dead and all, so what? Your not hip hop no more? Your music sucks too now? Your nothing but a ringtone? Lol, no not likely.

  • PEACHES[MEMPHIS,TENNESSEE]

    OHHH GOIN HARD AT BOL!

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    “Hip-Hop is a business on the decline.”

    Thats just it…hip hop shouldn’t be a business and it should be free of monetary influence…the labels are to blame for flooding the industry with BS, watered down ish…Im from the south and I admit that we have some ignorance circulating around here but so does the west coast (going dumb) and the east coast (BEEF)…secondly you have to blame the artists for becoming lazy and lacking creative effort…its all cookie cutting now…where is the individuality and uniqueness…third, you cant blame the fans because we arne’t buying this trash they pitch at us…thats the real reason why sales are down…dont blame downloading because if you make something of value you will get something of value for it in exchange…fourth, with the advances in technology and the competition of ipod, mp3, and downloads…the price of cds need to drop again…i remember when they were 18.99…now they are 12.99…drop them to 8.99 and a brother with 10 can let your record spin…

    …to me this is a win/win…

  • livefromthe225

    sounds like the cries from a talented, yet disgruntled artist…blame ya label Joe, maybe you can help the game but ya boss/idol doesn’t have that much faith in your selling potential

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    J Millz Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
    Get ready for all the “Quit hatin the south” and “da south run dis” and “da south eatin and the eastcost aint” bullshit…cause all rap is about today is “havin a fresh pair a shades, makin dat money and urrrbody gettin paid”…and apparrently having a shity but catchy hook and a beat that sounds like atari sound effects with base means your on top of your game. But people who can spit and don’t have a snap in there beat are whack?… And apparrently Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive…I didn’t know that Nas,Jay-Z,Andre 3k,kanye,common,Imortal Technique,Lupe,Talib kweli and many more had died…when did that shit happen…I must live under a rock or sumthin…
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    we will say stop hating when you stop hating…this comment is filled with hate…

  • Gama

    Goog post my nigga it’s about time the put a real artist on here I cant wait to read some more of your shit for real.

  • left

    Good Look Joey! Hip Hop is fucked up like sex on the ceiling ( shout out to one of your illest freestlyes ) No one is shitting on the south by saying it is dead you got to understand where the man is coming from b/c the majority of people in the hip hop culture feel this way. It aint like the south is new to the game they been banging good music since the early 90′s late 80′s so no one is shittin on the south. We shittin on the entire music industry. Shit aint the same there is no creativity everyone sound the same and portrays the same image. Why would I want to go buy 13 cds that all sound like paul wall or 42 cds with niggas snappin or 13 cds with niggas that got hoes on the hooks singing about how much we wanna love them but we still lookin at they homegirl. Nas said it best ” Everybody sound the same Commercialize the game”…..” We forgot where it started. I love hip hop and in its memory i’m going to imeem.com to listen to liquid swords and doggystyle and when i’m done with that i’ma bang some outkast and finish it with some AZ. By then I’ma be off work so i’ll holla at yall niggas on tues.

  • see dat

    “J Millz Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
    Get ready for all the “Quit hatin the south” and “da south run dis” and “da south eatin and the eastcost aint” bullshit…cause all rap is about today is “havin a fresh pair a shades, makin dat money and urrrbody gettin paid”…and apparrently having a shity but catchy hook and a beat that sounds like atari sound effects with base means your on top of your game. But people who can spit and don’t have a snap in there beat are whack?… And apparrently Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive…I didn’t know that Nas,Jay-Z,Andre 3k,kanye,common,Imortal Technique,Lupe,Talib kweli and many more had died…when did that shit happen…I must live under a rock or sumthin… ”

    Boy get the hate out yo system. Everybody in the South aint getting paid but the difference is everybody in the South stay on they grind. So you can hate all you want but we gonna keep pushing. It aint all about “urrbody getting paid” as you ignorantly and stereotypically put it but its about “urrbody” doing what they have to do and not complaining about it.

  • Josh

    Amen Joe

  • spanish jay

    Who really thinks Funkmaster Flex gets in his car with his family and puts Tony Yayo’s cd in?
    #
    hilarious

    but who we kiddin, Killa BH is the future

  • http://WWW.RAWREPORT.COM RawReport_k

    Hip-hop is relative to who defines it. To Joe, Born and Raised in the Birthplace of COURSE hip-hop would be dead for him. The golden age is gone…for our southern comrades they have just gotten the shine and their lifestyles haven’t been represented in the limelight. So to them, Hip-hop is very much alive. It’s all relative people.

  • see dat

    hip hop aint dead wayne is killin mix tape scene dont hate on the south

  • John Brown

    Go back and think about what really killed hip-hop. The answer to everyones problems is? What can make your live better? The answer to all this question is MONEY. Now money alone didnt killed hiphop, but the GREED of everyone who was getting MONEY did. The other day I was listening to C.R.E.A.M and I realize that this is the motto that rappers think this days. And if they dont have money they just put out mixtapes. Most rappers mixtapes are better than their own label C.D.’s. Its a shame that a rappers mixtape is better than their L.P.

  • see dat

    joe budden is garbage u cant fuck wit Game on bloods

  • B.Payton

    Joe, good lookin out on Walk With Me, 10 Minutes, and Calm Down and a ton of other tracks that helped and continue to help me get through a lot of shit. Keep doin ya thing and I’ll continue to support. Peace

  • see dat

    game kills joe budden on bloods budden is lame fake ass mark ass buster

  • jeff

    Hip-Hop on mainstream television and radio might be dead, but Hip-Hop in itself is not. It’s very hard to believe that hip-hop will ever die. People that think Hip-Hop is dead only feel that way because the same avenues they used 20 years ago to hear it are no longer available. That does not mean that the music in itself has disappeared also. If you usually take the highway home and they shut down the roads, does that mean that you can’t get home? No, it means you have to take an alternate route. Most people yappin’ that hip-hop is dead shit have never seen a world bigger than their block and have no idea what goes on in the earth’s other sections other than what CNN and National Geographic allows them to see. Every other continent and Island that I have been to within the past two years still has legions of folks breakin’, poppin’, tickin’, battlin’, scratchin’, and all kinds of shit. They don’t look at a dollar bill the same way that folks here do because their economy never allowed them to have a gang of meaningless shit to own. Yeah, I used to read the Source, watch Rap City, and Yo MTV Raps…and at one point in time, that was all a person that loved hip-hop needed to be exposed to most shit out here, but times have just changed. All of those former vehicles have been corrupted by greedy ass CEOs, so now you gotta change your route and expand your mind a bit. For every Kool G. Rap, Trendz of Culture, Hieroglyphics there was back in the day…there were shitty ass groups like the Afros, the Flatlinerz and Raw Breed also. Back then you were just exposed to so much shit, wackness was just minimized and not in the forefront. The ratio of dope to wack still exists…people are just way too lazy and narrowminded to find the dope shit. There’s plenty of indie and unsigned folks out here with enormous talent, but you yourself are just too jaded to pay attention to anything that doesn’t have a Tommy Boy, Relativity or Pop Art logo on it. You act like if hiphopgame doesn’t have it on audio, that means there is nothing else out. Motherfuckers always have conspiracy theories about shit and want to always determine what is real hip-hop and what is not real hip-hop, when ultimately…that shit does not matter. Nas can say whatever the hell he wants to, but his album was just a marketing tool and it did ABSOLUTELY nothing but cause bloggers and journalists to engage in stupid ass debates. If Hip-Hop is/was dead, his album certainly did nothing to resurrect it because that shit was only a good album at best and will be in 99 cent bins next March.

  • john cochran

    I CAN AGREE JOE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND WE GOTTA BE OPTIMISTIC. I THINK THIS IS A PERIOD OF REGROWTH. SURE, NO ONES GOING PLAT, BUT LOOK AT HOW MANY PRETTY GOOD ALBUMS WE’VE GOT THIS YEAR ON THE INDY LEVEL. KOCH S KILLING IT LIKE BILL JUST WROTE. NEW ARTISTS GETTIN IN THE GAME ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE REAL LOVE FOR IT CAUSE THEY NOT GONE BE OVERNIGHT MILLIONAIRES ANYMORE. I THINK THIS PERIOD IS GREAT. ITS WEEDING OUT THE ONES WHO ARE IN IT FOR JUST DOUGH. ILL JUST BUMP OLD SHIT UNTIL IT RESURGES. GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU JOE, I THOUGHT YOU WAS KNOCKED. FUCK DEF JAM FOR NOT DROPPING THE GROWTH.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mworld33 mannyworld33

    SHOUT OUT TO “JUMPOFF” JOE BUDDEN BEEN RIDIN’ WITH YOU SINCE I HEARD YOU ON A CLUE JOINT SAY “DON’T GET IT FUCKED UP LIKE SEX ON THE CEILING” WAITIN IN THAT MOOD MUSIC 3 MY NIG!

    S.P IN THA’ BUILDIN’!

  • http://www.myspace.com/crockerishiphop Crocker

    Budden, You are the fucking man, greatest rapper alive, real talk, I’m a rapper dude, and I kno like I sound like one hell of a mark, but ur that guy man. Gon drop that Mood Muzik 3 and shut the mixtape game down dude.

  • truth

    The south dont run shit, and the jist of the post was not to put down the south. He is just stating, how he remembers the culture being. He is just like me. I used to go down south, singing the hot jams of the day, and my cousins were playing in dirt, or riding bikes. Wasnt thinking bout no damn hip-hop. Now yall act like yall live this, lol. You fuckers are so happy to be geeting some shine, that, anytime, anybody that says anything contrary to “laffy taffy”, yall catch a bitch fit. learn yall history. This isnt the 1st time the south has risen. U forgetting TLC, Goodie, Outkast and the like? They sold more records last time around, were less annoying and more humble. They had dances too (bankhead ect.) To put this to rest, we live this shit, you guys are fans…. When you guys are done with your “fixation” with “doing hip-hop”, we will still be the posessors of the boom bap. We are orthodox hip-hop here, you guys are occassional visitors to the hip hop mosque. 10 years from now, you will look as stupid “walking it out” as you look bankhead bouncing today. They only deal with yall for the buffoonery aspect, and because all they have to do is Fed Ex yall some posters and flyers for throw-ups. Call me when a major moves to your city! They know you guys are not gonna come in the building and tear the office up. So you guys are the favor of the month, enjoy.

  • texas

    Quit hatin’ on the south, playa.

  • hannah Smith

    Didn’t bother to read the post, but isn’t this late to the point of being redundant? Unless he’s droppin’ some whole new science, which I sincerely doubt – this is Mr Pump It Up after all.

  • beeyo

    Eveyone was saying “HIP HOP IS DEAD” or “This is ANOTHER reason hip hop is dead.” The same people bitching about White Americas crackdown on rap musice right now. Death is on the toungue. Keep speakin that shit. See where it gets us. Who gives a FUCK if the shit is not selling or makin millions of dollars right now? Yall keep talkin bout the old days? THEY DIDN’T DO IT FOR MONEY IN THE OLD DAYS!!!!!!! You want hip hop back the way it was? Here you go. Live up to all that shit yall talk. Stay on that corner rappin homie. Spit ya fuckin heart out cuz you love the craft, not the success, Joe. You’ve been slept on, you have a right to be bitter. But DON’T try to find excuses and bitch about the industry. Bein Mad at mainstream cuz a million people won’t buy your shit, then talkin about how it was better back then is hypocritical. And EMOTIONAL. Man the fuck up Budden. You are nice, but you let the downs of the industry turn you into an angry old man and all is lost for you.

    And by the way, this post is superbly written nigga, very fucking detailed and shit. I loved your technique, just not the message.

  • http://www.myfreepaysite.com EReal

    You can go on any hip hop message board and you’re bound to read some of the most ignorant shit you’ve ever read regarding rap.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Amen Brother, Amen.

    Im like the only one that likes Tony Yayo’s CD? lol. Imma be like Crime Mobb for that one, Hated On Mostly. At least it was regarded, to me, as gutter, grimy, street rap and felt realer to me than any other G-Unit Artist besides Buck. Yayo’s old and was in the street, then in jail, not that makes him real, but in some sense gives himmore credibility to me, than say a Weezy. I say this because I thought hiphop and rap was supposed to mirror the streets, and what life is really like.
    On the opposite side of that, you have a dude like Immortal Technique who is showing a completely different side of realness and life itself, reporting on whats really going down as a whole for the country.
    In that sense, I like to keep my rap well rounded, and I really dont listen to shit I dont feel, or respect, in some way. I wanna get those goosebumps (pause) that you get when you feel a song, when you relate and understand. Or the excitement you get when you REALLY HAVE TO run that shit back and listen again.
    I feel you Joe (pause), the excitement and feeling is for the most part gone and gone almost entirely from mainstream rap, the ones doing it best are getting the least promotional and marketing support. The songs being pushed are brainwashing the younger generation into that ignorance you mentioned before.
    But there are glimmers of hope, I see a dude like you Joe, I see a Joell Ortiz, a Lupe, I see Red, Meth, and Rae all still workin, KRS droppin science, I see shows like Swollen Members w/ Ghostface coming to my town. I see rappers getting back to touring to sell, so I dont think hiphop is beyond all repair. I still write, I still bomb trains and piece walls, and I still have the respect.
    But there is evolution in all things, and we cant stay in that golden age forever, so the future is the light. Maybe hiphop can fall back and let R&B take it over for a lil bit, become pop, and then things will shift. But you see a producer like timbaland crossin over anything he can find and morphing hiphop into pop and the like to where its presence is oversaturated.
    A greatly written piece.
    Joe Budden > Game. All day every day, stans.

    1 hunned, haters.

  • ACE

    Hip-Hop is dead!!! How? When Lil’Wayne said he is the best rapper alive!!!

    Fuck J-Kwon = Worst one hit wonder ever!!!

  • http://bgdboom.blogspot.com Enigmatik

    This is the longest funeral ever…

  • http://www.first.com First

    Good shit, Joe.

  • http://myspace.com/treasurechest kasen

    the south (most of dem), r point blank wack..pple say lil wayne is better than jay-z nowadays…u rite my dude..pple is ignorant as fuck!!!..ps:why ur album aint out???

  • Darint

    Im the ghost of Nas at 19/jay-z in brooklyn wit some weight on a triple beam/biggie in that 1 room shack/you know who i am 2pac in juice before suge had him clapped/
    We got to carry on tradition,keep your head up buddens your in my top 5

  • http://joebudden.org eddieLucky

    good read joey.
    let them know what’s up!
    real talk
    joey bring that real hip-hop / rap back!

  • cheeks

    Jay-Z is bringing hip-hop back…so relax

  • blaQ

    HIP HOP IS DEAD, EVRYONE KNOW THAT…..BUT WHAT WILL REPLACE IT? ROCK IS STILL WACK….BLACKS NEED TO CREATE SUMTHN NEW.

  • http://Myspace.com/djchase247 Eastside Bread Maker

    Joe… Good shit.

    DJ N-Credible said that music should not be about business, but lets be real. Joe even you know this, it takes someone of extreme moral fiber to not sacrifice one’s beliefs for money. Hip Hop is big business, really big business. When guys are being offered millions of dollars to do the same thing that they have been doing on the block for free, and all they have to do is appeal to some youngins, it takes alot to say nah, I’m good doing this real hip hop right here. Remember everyone is striving to make money, to place themselves in a better financial situation than they were in before. Thats a part of life. But as Joe and many others have said in different forms, there has to be a limite where the integrity of what you do reaches a point where you can’t and won’t sell-out.

  • Tha Ace

    i agree with jeff up there
    ace quit usin my name son

  • Feelin’ It

    Joey isn’t late to the party, he’s just given legitimacy and a face to what the blogging community/internets have been saying for years…anytime you want to effect change, you need to have a rally point for the movement (or anti-movement in this case). Joey B is that dude.

  • Yung Ether

    Hip Hop was cool until she went to the club. She fucked around and got blinded by the ice and gold bottles and fell in love. It fucked her head up and she tried to come up outta the club, but them homo thugs shot her down. She made it on life support for a minute but as soon as folks thought Hip Hop was gonna make it. Laffy Taffy came and put her in the box…..R.I.P.

  • http://www.sohh.com Don of the Trap

    What it is Joe…..You da shit fam, you did your thang on them mood musics(hey im from the South and you get play down here) but Hip-Hop is not dead we just going threw a tuff time but with you ,jay,weezie,etc yall will bring it bac k to the late 80′s early 90′s we will rise again just keep your head up fam!!!

  • yaboy

    good post. now hit us with MM3.

  • THEE DON DADA

    I REMEMBER THE EARLY 90′s me and my boys would go past the warehouse music store on the way from school to buy the latest
    rappers tape we thought was hot even if we brought it and it was trash it was just the excitement of just hearing what each artist brought to the table, we use to buy a rap album every week or 2, but today im buying less and less hip hop albums, the last albums that was worth my $$$ was nas and the game, now dayz every single rapper sounds the same, rap about the same subject matter, i remember when i had to watch rap city every day hopeing to see the new N.W.A video, too short or ice cube video, but now man 90% of these rap nigga is staight garbage. im sick of buyin rap dudes trash azz c.d’s with 2 good songs out of 20 songs on the c.d. i blaming the artist and the records co for this
    the artist killed hip hop (and im not talkin about the south, new york did more damage to the death of hip hop then any coast.) until u rap niggas step ur game up and stop rapping about the same thang hip hop will continue to be DEAD.

  • Mont (The Legend)

    YOU ARE NOW LISTENING TO THE GROWTH!

    nice blog Joe ….that’s exactly what your song “Dumb Out” was about. Hip hop has gotten real stale …where is the creativity???

    Bring back the Cuban Linx era ….looking forward to Mood Muzik 3!

  • http://rockthedub.blogspot.com khal

    Whattup Joe, NJ in the building! I’m Trenton, NJ, born and raised. Good to see you putting that pen to good use.

    While the subject is kind of worn thin at this point… you make some very valid points, some points that need to be heard. The one about Funk Flex not putting Yayo on riding with his family is the fucking truth. Back 20 years ago, that wouldn’t even be the case.

    Keep doing you, and I hope you keep this blog up on a regular basis.

  • HNIC

    I really wish that people would stop saying; “Hip Hop is Dead”… especially, East Coast cats, because truth be told, if they really supported their own, every East Coast act would go platinum. New York City alone has over 9 million people that reside there. Presumably, not all of them are hip hop fans, but I’m certain that there are at least a million people there that listen to hip hop. I’m a 29 year old man that grew up with hip hop culture from almost its inception. So, I love this genre to its roots. All I know is that if I were A&R at Def Jam, Hip Hop would never die… not on my watch. With as much talent that they’ve had over the past 5, 10, 15 even 20 years, there’s absolutely no reason why East Coast Hip Hop shouldn’t still have the stronghold over Hip Hop that it once claimed as recently as 5 years ago. East Coast, you have no one to blame for the current state of Hip Hop but yourselves. So stop complaining. Either step your game up or shut the hell up!

  • cee dat

    Wow some1 actually stole my name and started posting bullshit. Please get a life.

  • Calibud

    This post reminds me of the Celtics and Grizzlies crying about the Draft Lottery being a bad system, but we all know its only a “bad system” to those who lost.
    Joey cant make a hit so Hip Hop must be dead. The games fucked up but Im tired of hearing about it from the losers.
    Hip Hip is alive and well to those that still enjoy the music. It’s dead to those that want to re-live the past, asking how many DJ’s still use old school turntables is absurd. You want Hip Hop to grow but you frown on DJ’s that use new technology to play records. Evolution in Hip Hop has takin kids from breakin on the corner to regional dances like snap/pop, walk it out, jukin, hyphy. I cant see anything wrong wit that. Niggas is stuck in the 80′s and 90′s if you think Hip Hop is dead.

  • http://thifubar.blogspot.com ThingAlec

    I’m with you man! This shit has got to stop. My friend has some friends who think Nas is boring. And said that Illmatic was for old people. They say Mims is a better rapper. Pfff.

  • Chad Biggz

    Fuck the blog! Glad to see Joey on this bitch. My favorite rapper and he needs to be your favorite rappers, favorite rapper. Man, I don’t even know if I like this Hip Hop shit no more. My brother looked at me like I was crazy when I pulled up blastin Gym Class Heroes. But I look at him like he’s crazy when he plays Jeezy all the damn time. And get in my car and tell me the bol Joe is wack. I try and do my part by buyin my favorite rappers album. But I do my share of downloading. I have got to the point. I think hip hop is so wack I won’t buy a bootleg cd. 5 bucks is too much for the garbage that some rappers are puttin out. I’m sorry hip-hop. I think I’m going pop!

    Joey when is Mood Muzik 3 comin?

  • Jerz!

    Feelin your words Joe, I’m happy someone deserving of a pedestal is saying some real shit.

    smh @ See Dat; tries to make an argument and then immediately ruins it by saying Game is better than Joey. Sigh lol.

  • http://cajunpeach.typepad.com/ Cajun Peach

    I’d love to hear a post about what you’ve seen on the inside. i can imagine it has taken its toll on you and perhaps it’s the reason why we havent’r heard from you in a while. most of the message boards/blogs are about someone’s point of view (who is on the outside looking in). IMO hip-hop has turned into the rugged side of R&B. i don’t get as much from hip hop as i used to so i just take it for what it is and run with it and spend many nights reminiscing on what the good ole’ days of good music used to be

  • HIJOKKA

    Budden you’re right. You know how I know, one of the iillest MC’s out there has to now resort to being a blogger on XXL because his label keeps pushing his shit back and just won’t release his shit. That song a year ago or so about depression is some REAL HIP-HOP shit. Budden, I’m glad to have a blogger who has the cred and love for this game but I think it’s a crime you’ve had to resort to this. The good news is maybe this will finally be the end of BOL.

  • whitechoco

    Misssin Ya Buddens!!!

    True shit!

  • HNIC

    I really wish that people would stop saying; “Hip Hop is Dead”… especially, East Coast cats, because truth be told, if they really supported their own, every East Coast act would go platinum. New York City alone has over 9 million people that reside there. Presumably, not all of them are hip hop fans, but I’m certain that there are at least a million people there that listen to hip hop. I’m a 29 year old man that grew up with hip hop culture from almost its inception. So, I love this genre to its roots. All I know is that if I were A&R at Def Jam, Hip Hop would never die… not on my watch. With as much talent that they’ve had over the past 5, 10, 15 even 20 years, there’s absolutely no reason why East Coast Hip Hop shouldn’t still have the stronghold over Hip Hop that it once claimed as recently as 5 years ago. East Coast, you have no one to blame for the current state of Hip Hop but yourselves. So stop complaining. Either step your game up or shut the hell up! 1

  • http://www.youheardthatnew.com LowKey

    “Fuck hip hop..all i do is get into the car an listen to am radio”- from Joe Budden DVD Trailer!!

    Joe if only we had more artist like you…Word is your eyeing Atlantic Records as your new home….is this true????

    http://WWW.YOUHEARDTHATNEW.COM

  • HNIC

    Sorry for the duplicate post.

  • http://www.youheardthatnew.com LowKey

    Fuck hip hop…all I do is get in the car and listen to am radio”- Taken from Joe Budden DVD Trailer…

    Damn shame what’s happening to the game..Mood Muzik Series….Best Mixtape Series EVER!! Aye Joe, word is your eyeing Atlantic Records as a new home…any validity to this story???

    http://WWW.YOUHEARDTHATNEW.COM

  • http://www.allhiphop.com Rey

    Cosign everything you said, Joey.

    I can’t wait for new music from you.. You’re one of the very, very few artists out there who isn’t afraid to say “Hey, things are fucked up all around, but lemme figure out ME first before I try to tell other people how to run their lives”.

    Keep up the good work, homey. You’ve got some loyal fans that will keep the lights on for you.

    UNO!

  • Nad

    That’s So true. the essence of hip-hop is gone. Everything’s corporate now,Hip-Hop is ineed Dead.

  • moneyovahatas

    Good post put some truth. Hip Hop aint dead. Its slowly DYING. Like cancer, but if we can work hard fans, artists, media, we can cure it. Oh yeah Lil wayne tha best rapper alive bitches!

  • v

    so long as jay and nas are around hip hop is gonna be fine.east coast niggas are always whining about the state of hip hop but in reality hip hop aint so bad right now.it aint ba bad thing for ppl to wanna dance sometimes .maybe we are tired of hearing all the rebel talk or the gangsta talk or fighting the “man” when some of us are freinds with ppl of the same race as the “man” or work with them at work .we dont wanna hear about struggles in the ood cos we cant relate cos we are leasing ranges and whatever .
    the same supposed ghetto child u are rhyming to is actually now a graduate or just a worker who can afford things so the speaking to the hood music aint gonna fly any more.

    the gangsta talk aint gonna fly cos ppl have witnessed volence too oftn to be amused by songs glorifying it.(i was shot four weeks ago and i can never tolerate a song that glorifys murder ever again )

    the east coast wont be so down right now if eastern mcvs learnt to have variety.say what we want about the southerners but at least they bring variety,comic relief etc

    east coast rappers need some versatility.

    hiphop is not dead.its just the east coast thats been flatlined.

  • T.R.E.Y.

    producers are the new rappers, and Timbaland is the GOAT

    next thing ya know all the good hip-hop producers are gonna cross over into pop/R&B like Timbo and Premo’ve already done

  • Looch

    Bout time u got this blog up mouse…procrastinatin ass dude…lol

    Most of y’all commentin seem to be cut from the same cloth…but I think a few of y’all are kinda missin the point. This ain’t about the south, east, west, it’s about talent…and the fact that somehow it seemed to get lost in the mix.

    I’ve been disappointed by this shit for to many years now…and as lame as it sounds it’s honestly depressing.

  • http://myspace.com/theinfamousmighty MIGHTY INFAMOUS

    MaN Fuck da south…whenever yall got a hold on sumthng its never good..Look at the history..

    RIP HIP HOP
    ill miss that bitch……

  • http://myspace.com/theinfamousmighty MIGHTY INFAMOUS

    Yo post my shit got damnit

  • Dude

    “…being that music doesn’t sell, images do. But then again you can’t download those, so maybe there’s still hope.”

    LOL! The internet nerds got owned!

  • killa

    i seriously think papoose can bring it back

  • EffYou

    Why is the souht so defensive when people say “HIP HOP IS DEAD” ? That’s not a dis to the south.There’s just as much garbage that comes out the north that does the south.This has nothing to do with age,it has to do with quality.When’s the last time u heard a really GOOD song ? HIP HOP is dead..RAP is alive an well…If yall niggas dont know the difference between the 2..yall shouldnt even be commenting..period

  • Looms

    Build & destroy

  • Y2Dre

    He sounds salty, budden has all the talent in the world but he will always be one of thoe MC’s that just never made is like Royce Da 5’9

  • Y2Dre

    He sounds salty, budden has all the talent in the world but he will always be one of those MC’s that just never made is like Royce Da 5’9

  • Danny

    You in that mood yet???!!!!

  • http://urgirlswantsme2.com Faison

    “Damn Its Feels Good To Be A Gangsta!”

    Wat up Joey!? Great Post!

    Mood Muzik 3….fuck all that otha shit!

    Im so tired of debatin wit these lil nuccas bout Joe Budden being better than their fav rapper. I give up. FUCK NIGGAS!

    I’ll just bump that All Top Muzik and mind my bizness!

    JOEY KEEP DOING IT!!!!!!!!!

  • fireforreal

    To show ya’ll why hip hop music is dead ask yourself why is it that today you look forward for to mixtapes coming out instead of full length albums ? Your scared to buy the album because within the last 5 or years more and more rappers give you 2-3 hot some songs on an 17 track album why buy when you can just download the 2-3 songs. I’m tired of buying bullshit because these cats is driving nice cars and not even earning it.

  • daesonesb

    >your point is strong but at the same time i really think that we must respect all diferent type of taste.

    NAhhhh man. That is the point! One of the biggest things in hip hop when it was started was not respecting the whack rappers. You never give love to a wack rapper. You either dissed the dude at open mic night or took the mic out of his hand.

    That is whats wrong with rap right now. Everyone can do any whack shit that they wanna, and no one calls em out on it as long as theyre getting money. “Dont hate the south for eatin” fuck that, anyone who isnt spittin shit thats up to par should get taken down a peg.

  • Johnnie Cage

    Hip hops only dead in NEW YORK.

  • sffy

    that was the best blog i have read all year… real talk budden .. PLEASE DROP UR CD.. go over to koch and release it.. ANYTHING!!

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=10406 AJ from DC

    Hip-hop is indeed six feet under. When u here girls and even DUDes say lil wayne is the best rapper alive, then u kno its over. I wasn’t aware Jay, nas, Ghostface, Scarface, Snoop, Lupe, Kanye, Pharoahe, shit anybody dats not from tha souf. Well Luda UGK, 3-6 Mafia, and Andre are the only good southern rappers, NOT BOOSIE and WEBBIE and FABO or the million other corny rappers……There I said it.

  • Meechie Da Classic

    see dat Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
    “J Millz Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
    Get ready for all the “Quit hatin the south” and “da south run dis” and “da south eatin and the eastcost aint” bullshit…cause all rap is about today is “havin a fresh pair a shades, makin dat money and urrrbody gettin paid”…and apparrently having a shity but catchy hook and a beat that sounds like atari sound effects with base means your on top of your game. But people who can spit and don’t have a snap in there beat are whack?… And apparrently Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive…I didn’t know that Nas,Jay-Z,Andre 3k,kanye,common,Imortal Technique,Lupe,Talib kweli and many more had died…when did that shit happen…I must live under a rock or sumthin… ”

    Boy get the hate out yo system. Everybody in the South aint getting paid but the difference is everybody in the South stay on they grind. So you can hate all you want but we gonna keep pushing. It aint all about “urrbody getting paid” as you ignorantly and stereotypically put it but its about “urrbody” doing what they have to do and not complaining about it

    Im from the South, and i cant stand none of the dudes down here… These negros here think a hot 16 is a thick ass sophmore chick.. Lil Wayne the best rapper alive… damn did Eminem die while i was sleeping??? All you gotta do to get a hit down here is have a beat and a catchy hook and nothing else… thats it… im still waiting on a hot freestyle from Jizzalman…GTFOH… or a freestyle from the chubby short dude from D4L… wow thats gonna burn the streets… Dammit CAN I GET A 16 FROM ONE OF THOSE “WALK IT OUT ” NEGROS…

  • Meechie

    “Dont hate on the South” Fuck that im from the south and still breathe southern air. I cant fucking stand whats coming from down here… Negros are really waiting on a freestyle from “Jizzalman” or can we get a hot 16 from one of them “Walk IT out ” bastards.. GTFOH…

  • Cuban FUCKING Link!

    Whatup joe, Ive been waiting to see you post something up.

    Whens Mood Musik III coming, Ive been banging II and your self titled album for the last like 4 years.

  • Cuban Link

    and btw, you have almost as much skill at writing as you do with hip hop.

    The problem is the people, the source.They love rap too much, so anything labeled hip hop theyll find someway to love.

  • Daniel

    Finally a real columnist, well Joe, love your music. Actually right now I think you’re the best lyrically out there, hands down.

  • Ali

    it ain’t completely dead…there still hov nas common kanye kweli mos def…tha list continues….but i feel u tho…especially about tha money part….money is everything & its a damn shame….i gotta be honest tho i only heard 1 song from u that pump it up song but i gotta be all tha way real……….sum1 who jus posted sum good shit like that should make better songs no offense…come wit that lyrical stuff man

  • Legend 7

    Sad but True
    Yo Jump Off; I got something to tell you. I get a lot of shit talk for being a loyal fan of yours. You got to understand that you and a couple of other few artists are the future of hiphop. Hiphop ain’t dead; it’s just week right now. You got artists like Joell Ortiz, Joey, Nas, and God know’s the rest that rapm for the love of the culture. Ya’ll niggas need to forget all that b.s. going on and give the people what they need to here, not what they want. Always remember, the people don’t know what they want. Lil Wayne is not the best rapper alive (that’s an abomination) and MM3 is comin for all ya’ll hatin motherF*ckers.

    Joey; you the future (remember that)
    MoodMuzik 3 comin this summer and
    The Growth comin soon
    if you don’t like that; suck a dick (no homo)

  • D-lo

    being a 70′s baby(i ain’t ashamed ov it)hip hop is dead and every1 had a part in the homocide.We wanted so bad for us 2 be heard that we sold our artform 4 a $1 and a fly video chick.Its sad but true and it seems to be getting worse.We need to get back to concepts,hot stories,and artists who would do thid for free if they really had to(75% ov ur favs no nothing bout that)Joey keep it poppin need more ov that mood musik can’t wait 4 3 to hit(n not the carter III u wayne-ites).Real rap musik can’t die it needs to be resusitated!!!!

  • AQUILOGY

    Talib kweli and many more had died…when did that shit happen…I must live under a rock or sumthin_________________________________________________-TALIB keeps releasing bad albums can sumbdy tell me Y

  • AQUILOGY

    Talib kweli and many more had died…when did that shit happen…I must live under a rock or sumthin_________________________________________________-TALIB keeps releasing bad albums can sumbdy tell me Y

  • AQUILOGY

    Talib kweli and many more had died…when did that shit happen…I must live under a rock or sumthin_________________________________________________-TALIB keeps releasing bad albums can sumbdy tell me Y

  • straitup

    the major labels aint do much for hiphop but there is still plenty of smaller labels that put shit out for there artists.

    i dont know if joe is in a position to criticize because of he has gone on record saying he basically wont leave a def jam for a smaller label for whatever reason. U can bet whatever “c-notes” you got rolled in your pocket that mm3 or the mythical beast known as “the growth” wouldnt have taken this long to get out if he did move.

    its up to smaller boutique labels to come up with an alternative business models. The CD is dead. There are however other opportunities to get people to spend money on artist and music related products.

    The spirit of hiphop never died. For every two thugs who wanna be lloyd banks theres a kid in a bedroom with his computer making beats. getting his homies to rap on them. trying to express himself using this artform. NO its not decks and city parks but its still hiphop.

  • ORBITALFIEND

    Cant remember the last time i heard real hip hop, if it aint dead its definately on life support. bring back artists with something to say. I dont give a fuck how many cars you got, how much cash you’ve got, how many women you’ve had. just tell me about whats going on in life today!!

  • T-Boye

    Joe should get at newly appointed Co-Chairman of Columbia Records, “Rick Rubin” for a deal. Remember, he hepled just “Def Jam” from the ground up with Russell back in the day. When it was a little unknown label. Rick found LL & Beastie Boys, so you can’t say that white dude doesn’t know anything about hip-hop.

  • jeff

    There’s always an artist who either A) never sold any records or B) an artist who does not sell anymore that complains about the state of hip-hop. Truth be told, your issue with hip-hop is that you are not able to eat off of it like the people that you claim do not deserve to. If you were moving units and were a household name, you would not be complaining about anything. Like Biggie Smalls said “Don’t Be Mad, UPS is hiring.”. If hip-hop is dead, you contributed to it’s death by being signed onto a label, getting an advance (whether minimal or large amount), got money from tours, and made percentages of sales. Hip-Hop started dying when motherfuckers tried to leave their stoop and get paid from it. Artists kill me talking about how fucked up labels are, but what did you expect? They made Michael Jackson lie and say he was 8 years old when he was really 12, so what made/makes you believe that you are going to be exempt from being given a gimmick as well? Public Enemy was a gimmick just like NWA was a gimmick. When Public Enemy was hot, you had a gang of Political ass groups out. When NWA got hot, labels shifted their focus to Gangsta Rap. Basically, you became a label hoe as soon as you decided to sign the dotted line. You legally put your integrity on the line…FUCK UP!! If you were keeping it real and wanted to keep ‘real’ hip hop afloat, you would have got you a 9 to 5 and ate off of that and did your hip hop thing before you go to work, during lunch break and after you got home from work. If you got signed to a label, you love for hip hop isn’t/wasn’t primary or secondary. First and foremost, you wanted that check to get your ass off the block and secondly, you wanted to get some bitches on your jock. You can claim to keep it real all you want to..but I have been to Roots, Kweli, KRS, Common shows that costed me over 30 bucks to get into. On top of that, if the promoter didn’t have their money readily available…you were not getting a performance…whether it was a packed house or not. I have seen Young Jeezy for free twice. Hip-Hop is not only a way of life, culture, etc. but it is a business as well. If you got an album sitting on a shelf at Virgin, Fye, or wherever…someone is getting paid off of it. Hip-Hop ain’t dead, it just doesn’t work for you right now and that’s what you really need to admit.

  • ACE

    #
    Tha Ace Says:

    “ace quit usin my name son”
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Tha Ace = J-Kwon dissin Raekwon for sharing the name ‘Kwon’

  • Sincere

    Great Post.. Hip Hop is Dead… mainstream wise but not in my car or my cirle…. I buy and bang Hip Hop all day and will not be programed by radio.. It’s just now Hip Hop will go back to its old days.. Underground.. then Rise again!

  • ridda

    on of the greatest posts in a while in my opinion. It isnt always the label’s fault i believe it is the lack of real talent out there. Nobody has Biggie potential no more and that sucks. Also, i blame the lack of creativity.

  • Sniper

    Joe keep doin what you do son, tha real shit is gonna come back, J-Kwon dissed Rae? J-Kwon? What?!! LOL but for real when I see that nigga J-Kwon I’m gonna spit in his face, fuckin faggot ass St.Louis nigga LOL, J-Kwon? LOL

  • http://www.myspace.com/crockerishiphop Crocker (PLEASE READ THIS)

    See this is what pisses me off, all this fucking speculation on who or what killed Hip-Hop, like motherfuckers are playin a drawn out version of fucking Clue. I Say! It was Cam’Ron at Howard with The Diamond Throwing Car-Jackers! Jesus Christ, is it really that hard to figure out. Lemme do something totally white and trendy and paraphrase Jay-Z when he said “I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars” Problem with motherfuckers is, you all think this is some fucking business. And you’ve all got ur cute lil’ “Trap Rap For Dummies,” book out and you’ve read it over and over. You’re just goin down the checklist. Bullet Wounds (BANG!, Thanks Homie ;) ) Check. Flag hanging from my back pocket. Check. It’s mother fuckers like you, people that claim Jay Jenkins is the truth when you mother fuckers are quick to shit on a Joe Budden, a Saigon, or even a legend like Big Pun. How can the majority of you say Hip Hop Ain’t Dead, It Just Lives In The South, when you don’t even know shit about where it was started. You just think you’re cute with your Momma’s 12 Gauge, working hard and in deep thought about ur next single with a Crayola fucking Crayon in your hand. Step up your creativity and work on your metaphors before you ever call yourself a rapper or hip-hop again. Word to Pusha T, “I’m Not You, Trapper.”

  • tpc

    hip-hop is dead….money killed hip-hop…everybody wanna make money instead of music…….papoose,siagon,joe budden,lupe,kanye,nas and joell ortiz are the only people tryin to keep hip-hop alive

  • Matty

    Its people like you that ruin hiphop budden… Nice bitch move in Halifax on Saturday !!! You disgrace HipHop you greedy bitch

  • Matty

    Nice pull out of the Halifax gig on Saturday buddens… You disgrace hiphop , Greed is all its about with you, not the love.

  • around and around

    RawReport_k Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
    Hip-hop is relative to who defines it. To Joe, Born and Raised in the Birthplace of COURSE hip-hop would be dead for him. The golden age is gone…for our southern comrades they have just gotten the shine and their lifestyles haven’t been represented in the limelight. So to them, Hip-hop is very much alive. It’s all relative people.
    ———
    Please most that crunk=junk is not even Donald Trumps lifestyle, who you kidding?

    Secondly, great post, nothing but real talk

  • Cinsere

    jeff Says:

    May 25th, 2007 at 7:03 am
    There’s always an artist who either A) never sold any records or B) an artist who does not sell anymore that complains about the state of hip-hop. Truth be told, your issue with hip-hop is that you are not able to eat off of it like the people that you claim do not deserve to. If you were moving units and were a household name, you would not be complaining about anything. Like Biggie Smalls said “Don’t Be Mad, UPS is hiring.”. If hip-hop is dead, you contributed to it’s death by being signed onto a label, getting an advance (whether minimal or large amount), got money from tours, and made percentages of sales. Hip-Hop started dying when motherfuckers tried to leave their stoop and get paid from it. Artists kill me talking about how fucked up labels are, but what did you expect? They made Michael Jackson lie and say he was 8 years old when he was really 12, so what made/makes you believe that you are going to be exempt from being given a gimmick as well? Public Enemy was a gimmick just like NWA was a gimmick. When Public Enemy was hot, you had a gang of Political ass groups out. When NWA got hot, labels shifted their focus to Gangsta Rap. Basically, you became a label hoe as soon as you decided to sign the dotted line. You legally put your integrity on the line…FUCK UP!! If you were keeping it real and wanted to keep ‘real’ hip hop afloat, you would have got you a 9 to 5 and ate off of that and did your hip hop thing before you go to work, during lunch break and after you got home from work. If you got signed to a label, you love for hip hop isn’t/wasn’t primary or secondary. First and foremost, you wanted that check to get your ass off the block and secondly, you wanted to get some bitches on your jock. You can claim to keep it real all you want to..but I have been to Roots, Kweli, KRS, Common shows that costed me over 30 bucks to get into. On top of that, if the promoter didn’t have their money readily available…you were not getting a performance…whether it was a packed house or not. I have seen Young Jeezy for free twice. Hip-Hop is not only a way of life, culture, etc. but it is a business as well. If you got an album sitting on a shelf at Virgin, Fye, or wherever…someone is getting paid off of it. Hip-Hop ain’t dead, it just doesn’t work for you right now and that’s what you really need to admit.

    See…even though I’m on Joe’s side…you actually make a very valid point. Very well put (and much better than the usual “stop hating” rants that Joe alluded to with his ignorant-comments-on-message-boards statements). Still, even though it is true that once you get signed, you are at the labels disposal…you have to admit that there used to be a greater deal of artistic integrity than that which exists now…and I think that’s what Joe and many others are angry about.

  • Ryan

    Joe,

    Hiphop needs Mood Music III. History will prove you to be one of the top 5 emcees of this generation. Fuck the sales…doesn’t mean shit. People buy whatever record companies put in front of them. They use the South to keep everyone down with ignorant music. This isn’t the old soulful south of years past…the Goodie Mob, OutKast, Witchdoctor days…this is Jeezy and TIP.

    Know real heads are still out there supporting your shit…even though there seem to be less real hiphop heads these days.

    It’s that on top muuuuuusiiiiic!

  • Cinsere

    And by the way…I’ve seen both The Roots and Kweli for free…and about to see Common for free next month…so that point is null and void.

  • Cuban Link

    Jeff, I cant tell you how wrong you are.To be a household name today, you need a hit.And, a hit today means selling out.And about moving units, you are so far off.

    People like Unk, MIMS, Crime Mob, Ying Yang Twins, Yo Gotti, Trick Daddy, Lil Boosie, etc. didnt push very much at all, and yet they think Hip Hop is in a great state.They loev the way its going, even though they didnt push much on their last CD, in album sales.

    On the other hand, NaS who pushed more than any of them on his last CD, isnt afaid to talk about hip hop’s current state.50 Cent also critized certain Southern artists who didnt care about hip hop.Even the Game through in a lot of subliminals on The Doctor’s Advocate (especially on One Blood).And you tell me whos more a household name, 50 Cent or Lil Boosie.

  • Grouch

    I’ll tell you what killed Hip Hop…you can blame the net and downloading,the south,Big and Pac dying,g-unit and dipset,street labels closing(Loud,Rawkus(the old rawkus)bootleggers and anything else but what killed Hip Hop to me is the exclusiveness is gone…in other words remember when only a select few had the haps on a song that was out,an artist they had heard-remember staying up late to hear Mr Magic or even flex or whoever to hear the music not just to hear it first but to hear good music period.Now,Everbody a rapper,producer,label owner,clothing designer,production company head,marketing firm etc….too many chiefs not enough indians…everyones a boss but they can’t lead…meth and red bricked,people diss rakim,raekwon resorts to a sequel of an impossible album to follow and Nas has to get the worlds attention by stating the genre that birthed all of us has no pulse and should be thrown roses on…We don’t respect anything.We don’t respect ourselves,our history,the culture…Nothing…just the dollar…rock bands pop nowadays because they’re hungry and they are devoloped by the label…r&b sells cause no one in their 30′s wants to hear about imaginary gun bussin and all this other sh*t…But I still have faith someone will soon drop a genuine album that has lyricism,beats that knock,and a concept to accompany the album that will make the world remember why Hip Hop became a worldwide language that connected ghettos and suburbs…i may be naive but i still have faith even though its very little…

  • nation

    i hope this is daily

  • SMOKEYMCPOT

    I dont listen to Candy Shop and “Thug Luv” no offense even 24 I feel to old to drive down the street bumping some guy talking about poppin two guys in the face and robbing everyone he sees. I find myself having to listen to old Gza albums and shit to even make it through a half hour straight of music without getting bored or laughing at some psuedo tough guy talk about how hes the best rapper eva talking about “Stuning wit his Daddy” are you fucking kidding me?

  • Smokey McPot

    I find myself having to listen to old Gza, Wu Tang , Krs one and some Scarface to just make it through more than a few songs in a row. The radio is basically unlistenable with all the corny candy shop remakes and Young Jeezy talking about how gangsta he is and his “Trap movin” (Come on man, arent you like 30? Shouldnt you be trying to grow up?). Long live old krs one Gza and Pharcyde/tribe cds.

    In 5 years the top selling rapper will be a “gangsta” in a wheelchair who was shot 17 times and therefore (wins the gangsta award). Talking about driving his specially equipped astrovan with auto-eletric ramp.

  • Gutta

    its all about money

  • http://www.myspace.com/pgame Point Game

    “You wrote it onlin then i read it, now ill match it nigga bet it”

    keep it where its at Joe, im with you. peace

  • kt

    hey they where saying the same thing when we were break dancing back in the day anything that gets exploited in the way rap music is will die down sure enough look at that pepto bismo comercial I knew soon as hiphop started looking for fake gangsta to rep the culture it was over the game is flooded with non educated mother fuckers resighting poetry what you thought it was supposed to be uplifting they need to set standards look at the nba and the nfl they new young niggas was fucking up the sport so they installed guidelines this is big business people they care about the money not how it effects the people it influences if we owned our own shit we might be able to make a change until then keep listening to the bull shit there pushing on us thats why I listen to my old gangstar and nice an d smooth and epmd and redman and krs1 albulms fuck yall im out

  • enter:joe budden is just garbage

    im sure u wouldnt be saying all that crap that u just said if your wack first album didnt flop after u were billed the next rapper to blow up big time on defjam.had pump it up and that other horrible single done well ud prolly be doing songs with all the pop artists of this world.btw,of course labels love the money more,u come later,what did u expect?no money=>no label
    honestly,u should just stop because this blog makes u look way dumber than i thought u were.

  • kt

    ayo joe keep repping new jeru I got beats I know niggas is looking for the next nigga with that fire for the cheap prices where could I email nigga snippets of some of this fire I been sitting on shit for a while and everybody I run into rap like they wanna be the next gangsta Im trying to take the game back from killing to skilling holla at me ….its the new jeru thats in me jelous ones envy wild out on mics like whites watching the 500 indy when I blow my trees man shit gets windy front line niggas get hit with fire thats friendly

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    If Nas had a nickel for everytime some random-ass nigga said “hip hop is dead” he’d be in Jay-Z’s bracket.

    If I hear “hip hop is dead” (or any other variation of “hip hop ain’t dead it’s _____” one more time, imma hafta pull a Beanie Sigel … “you liable to have something happen to you”

    Disco music is dead … Hip Hop is just fine. You either like it now or you don’t. You either wish they were making songs like “back-in-day” or you love crunk/snap music and your basking in it’s glory.

    The last time that music went really pop (back in the mist of the Puffy/Mase shiny suit days), Wu-Tang Clan came on the scene and changed the game. Anybody who knows anything about Hip Hop knows that Hip hop goes through stages (the pro-black days, the gangsta rap era, the “sample every 80′s track” era, etc.). Hip Hop ain’t going nowhere.

  • Plat O

    If I had a dollar for everytime I heard dudes like Lil Wayne was better than Nas..I’d be a millionaire…Real talk…Im only 19 years old…and know more about the music game then dudes twice my senior…something’s gotta give…or Hip Hop as we now it is gonna rot away…and if it’s already dead…we need some recessitation…

  • Jerz

    Jersey’s got you man. fuck the bullshit…its that on top music

  • Static

    Point blank, the fans killed hip-hop! That’s all there is to it. Hip-hop became a business and we all know business is about supply and demand. If people weren’t buying all this garbage that they try to call hip-hop, they would be forced to make the real shit. Honestly, hip-hop isn’t dead, you just need to be a minor to find it.

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piff

    Hip Hop Is Dead

  • BIG DADDY FAT NUTS

    THE SONG BLING BLING STARTED THE END OF HIP HOP

  • http://kissmyassplz.blogspot.com KissMyAss

    Agreed, Hip Hop may be in decay. But “it aint dead, cuz I ain’t been to a funeral”

    Listen to my dude Mally from the 612 and realize we got cats still doin H-I-P H-O-P service.

    To Listen: http://myspace.com/mallyfromthe612

    “The Letter/Life Tape” Download: http://www.zshare.net/download/mally-the-letter-zip.html

    3 singles:
    http://www.zshare.net/audio/mally-2-20-year-old-hero-mp3.html
    http://www.zshare.net/audio/mally-12-let-me-tell-you-mp3.html
    http://www.zshare.net/audio/mally-25-what-to-do-mp3.html

  • http://myspace.com/mallyfromthe612 KissMyAss

    Agreed Hip Hop may be in decay but “it aint dead cuz I aint been to a funeral”

    My dude Mally from the 612 (Minneapolis, MN) will show you determination & rhyme skill. Hit his Myspace page up and listen!!! He’s doin “H-I-P H-O-P service”

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piff

    lmaooo, who edited my shit to say “Hip-Hop is dead”. Was my post too long, some dudes is writing scrolls on here and i can’t get a moment of clarity via keyboard! fuck it!

    I need an interview for dat one XXL!

    Actually thanks for the edit, i hear i’ve been burning bridges/being labled as an asshole amongst the industry cyberheads.

    Jer-z Up and Jer-z Out…….!

  • Mr. Whats beef

    teens my age listen to lil wayne down here in the capital and nothing else. wayne, this, wayne that. They dont take the time out to hear about nobody else. i know he’s on his grind but damn, when it call comes down to it, soon as the ipod struck diamond it was a hole left in the ozone, and now cd sales is getting sucked up and destroyed, just think about it before the mp3s and ipods went popular check the cd sales of albums that came out around then, now everybody has one of them things, little cousins, neices, your friends, hell maybe even mothers and grandmothers, i guess at the end of the day ppl would think why by a cd that would mostly sound like trash instead of just picking the songs i want off it for 99.. The Ipod has took music into a whole new direction when it comes to making money, shit it made like a Billion, who doesn’t have one these days and if u dont i bet u know somebody that do.

  • Pat

    I just want to say thanks to Joe Budden, for letting down paying fans in Halifax last week. You’re a sell out, and a real dissapointment. Take your money and run, good job.

  • Louis

    Joe, I don’t think you will read this, but I want you to know how much you mean to hip hop fans. You are that dude out there who is doing hip hop for the love of the game. You are making moves to respect the art at the sacrifice of money and fame. Even though the money and fame is not there, I have the ultimate respect for you. You aren’t afriad to show every facet of your personality, you reveal things that most rappers woudl be embarassed about. I had a tough year this year and all I did aws listen to Mood Muzik 2 and the shit affected me like no other rap album has before. Listening to your album gave me support and helped me go on forward.
    It’s funny about hip hop now. It is the worst it’s ever been. Obviously corporations have always controlled hip hop but now its’ gotten to the point of absurdity. I look at 2 figures as the worst examples of hip hop: 50 cent and Mims. Im not saying they are the only bad ones but they are the worst representatives.
    It’s obvious that everythign you say in your article is aimed at 50 cent and 50-cent like rappers. 50 does not try to hide the fact that he is only out to make money. He admits that he has no emotion, love, or respect for hip hop. It’s only about soundscan man. All he can talk about is how much he is gonna sell, like he is scared shitless if he doesn’t. There’s no trying to make music to contribute to an artistic form ,it is only to make music for some fucking money. I hope everyone is with me for a Curtis boycott when his album comes out (it won’ affect him, he’s got that vitamin water stock sale money)
    -mims is the second worst example. Garbage rapper. Decent beat, terrible ass songs—-making mad ringtone money—-GARBAGE. The fact that i know that dude’s name is proof of who’s running hip hop.

  • E

    Eh yo, Buddens. I met you some time ago in Nitty’s studio in Farmers and I remember he played me a couple of your joints and some were very deep and thought provoking. But when your album dropped, though not wack I said to myself what happened to those gems I heard? Well it’s like hip hop what happened to all those gems we used to hear?

    The answer to whats going on with hip hop is for all the remaining and all the new REAL ARTISTS to make a stand for their artistry and make more credible music, once done the rest will follow. Jays album was garbage, Nas sub par, etc etc. But if the true rappers raise their level of music it will overshadow the nonsense being allowed. Even though I dont knock crunck, snap, hyphy, because I can never knock a black man gettin his money but where is the balance with real hip hop at? Rappers set trends, lets set the trend for being a real mc again. Point blank.

  • crown_holder23

    hip hop aint dead okay maybe its dead to those who live in the past with that old ass rapping yall begging for those favorite lryscist that you love so much are still putting out the music you love so go buy it and be quiet just because that type of hip hop isnt going platinum hip hop is dead that a damn NEW YORKER for you i know yall was hot ass hell when the giants moved to NJ lol tiki barber
    nothing in new york is that relevent anymore to the point were everybody making they own clothes so we do look new york niggas get clowned for trying to be new york like that shit is hot Jay-z cool
    fuck BIGGIE and all the other unimportant niggas up there Nas was cool to me till he signed with Jay no hip hip is dead but b4 that shit he was that nigga rappin on a lil john produced song nas is as bi polar as the game to the point he actually did a song with him ny niggas need to do them and shit new york not even touching a coast so how the hell is the east coast damn Pac died went to war with the east coast and them nigga aint even on the coast NY i the midwest now everybody say it with me FUCK NEW YORK

  • neverhate

    now you sound like grandpa. i respect your music and i am eagerly anticipating your next album but stop hating. rakim is a good mc but definitely a bit overrated and who cares if someone hasn’t heard a tribe album . is funny but you don’t question someone who hasn’t listened to a d4l album or crime mob album.

  • God MC ALLHIPHOP.COM

    This is true Joe but at the same time, u aint contribute much with Pump It Up & Fire which were cookie cutter as hell, u are most defiently a gifted MC u have proven this on Mood Muzik 1 & 2, and the shit u been doin in ur hiatus from the mainstream. But if u ask people outside of the messageboard hardcore hip hop heads, Joe is the same as Jibbs and the rest of these niggas due to Pump It Up. I hope as u criticise the overall mainstream hip hop right now u have looked in the mirror as well.

    BABY U FINE BUT UR GIRLFRIEND’S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jerz!

    ^ This dude does not what he’s talking about. I love introspective rap, and rap in all forms. But getttttttttt the fuck outta here if you try and say that Pump it Up and Fire are anything less then great songs. Jibbs? Pump it up is a timeless party song and it’s joey killing a just blaze beat. What more could you want? It’s wild that people only want Joe to make strictly introspective songs when he can do justice to any live beat. Sometimes he just poor beat selection. If Joey had a set up like Saigon? chill.

  • crown_holder23

    dang i missed something i had no idea lame ass joe budden wrote this shit of course hip hop is dead cause u not a reputable force in it sorry ass clown ass i knew wheni was stationed in norfolk that niggas was loosing they mind saying this pump it up nigga was they next jay sounding like that shit the dj was playing on juice and since his gay ass flopped now hip hop is dead ol weak ass dude tryin to use 50 song delivery to get some attention i cant even believe this extra super lame didnt and should never be in any publication let alone xxl ever again talking bout the game when his weak ass was in the light and didnt do shit but come out with some labron james pink lemonade bubbaliscious bubblegum ass shit and the people on here riding his dick cause he wrote the post scared like he gonna come see you if you mouth off or some shit XXL PLEASE DO NOT EVER AGIAN DO A BLOG ON FUCKIN I WISH I WAS HOT RIGHT NOW RAPPERS damn

  • NoMamesBuey

    Check out this lame editorial by rapper Joe Budden

    I am sick of dudes like Joe Budden whose full-time job is rap (MCs, producers, radio DJs, journalists, etc)
    1 who say Hip Hop is Dead, radio sucks etc
    without saying
    2 there is dope artists & albums in the underground, that speak on a variety of perspectives & subject matters, including “positive lyrics”.

    Either dudes like Joe Budden
    a don’t even pay attention to the underground, which is hypocritical & lame. How are you going to blast others for sleeping on your underground mixtape or whatever, while OTOH ignoring other underground artists?
    -or-
    b are aware of dope underground artists, but don’t want to mention it, out of insecurity that a few of those unknown underground cats are better than themselves, & don’t want their small piece of the pie/rap industry to be sliced further, as if it’s a 0-sum game

    In 2007 with tons of rap preview blogspots or sites like rapgodfathers.com, it’s so easy to discover & preview underground albums. There are also sites like rateyourmusic.com & metacritic.com where you can see album reviews, to select which albums one would preview.

    So far just in 2007, there have been very good “studio albums” from “regular, real-rap” artists such as
    Blue Scholars 2007 Bayani
    Hell Razah 2007 Renaissance Child
    Brother Ali 2007 The Undisputed Truth
    Calle 13 2007 Residente O Visitante
    El-P 2007 I’ll Sleep When You’re Dead

    There are probably many others, but I’m just a fan who has a few hours sporadically to check out new albums, so there’s no way I can keep up with it thoroughly.

    For dudes like Joe Budden, RAP IS A JOB. How is it that someone like Budden knows less about new 2007 quality rap albums than I do?

  • http://myspace.com/silentknightma Silent Knight

    I agree that hiphop is in a bad state, as far as stuff like: payola(pay for play on major radio stations), record companies signing bullshit, most of the videos being wack, etc etc…..as well as the younger generation being unaware of the forefathers of the artform, or having a lack of respect or knowledge of it. Also….the fact that record sales(Cd sales) are declining.
    BUT….I agree with NoMamesBuey in regards to there being a whole lot of artists out there that are making dope music. Some in the mainstream, some independantly…or in the “underground”. Alot of different styles and alot of different content. But all dope in their own right. And dont get it twisted…..alot of these cats are making moves….and are on the come up.
    Just some off the top of my head:
    Cymarshall Law, Emilio Rojas, Skyzoo, Hasan Salaam, Torae, Jean Grae, Pharaoe Monch, JOE BUDDENS, Papoose, saigon, Jay-Z, Nas, Polyrythym Addicts , Fresh Daily, Joel Ortiz, myself(SiLent Knight), and many many MANY more.
    Who knows where it will go from here……but all I know is; There has always been….and always will be…wack music and good music. Of any genre. Including rap.

  • CHICAGO PaPii

    All This from The Nigga that got “Outed” by Gloria Valez about his Wonderful Tornado Tongue when pleasing Video Hoes in Bed? Nullus! This nigga spit good every once in a while and is signed to Def Jam so I guess his Opinion is Law. Get The Fuck outta here! Hip-Hop ain’t Dead its just On Vaction in Miami like Fat Joe, it’s chillin sippin coladas while Cuban mami’s giving it Dome. Hip-Hop is waiting On real MC’s to return to The Game!

  • CHICAGO PaPii

    Ok if Joe Budden don’t Blow Up with his Next Disc we can ALL Blame it On The New Dance Crazes and Southern Music, yeah right like Joe Budden wouldn’t be Floppin if Jay-Z and Nas dropped in the same week.

  • UHHH OHHH

    Listen i love all rap and I agree, that hip hop is dead, I Know this post isn’t about the south or hate for it,
    but I know what most of you are thinking. That the south killed it. (even if I am wrong. Please listen to what I have
    to say without bias)

    listen…

    life is strife and complaints come as complaints go

    time aligns, man, what fate does is what fate knows…

    and that’s moving on, it’s as lewd as songs, made to a thought process that’s slow as solace.

    I’m not showing out. just want to show you how the folded out south can subside and provide an intelligent verse with the best intent. There is no lessened sense, here, that relevance is a seldom hit. We understand, but what a man does to land a fucking grand in a rubber band is give up his stance, cuz the southern man, never fuckin planned to be the last the speak. No one wanted to listen or had given any attention. So we took this new exploitation of the art and ran with it. The east and west had seen the best of cheese and bread and their love of the art seemed just less.

    They started the drug peddlin the smug severance of expression, the reference to “lovin money” and “not givin a fuck”
    so stop givin us what, was yours in the first place…the responsibility of killing your baby, cuz we loved her too.

    By the way, no hate here.

    I just wanted to show you that one of the souths own had a flow.

    Do with it what you will, just know that there are good Emcees in the south, but we are being looked over too. It’s not just the east or west.

  • http://community.allhiphop.com CondoM

    Joe,

    Seriously, get off the fucking internet and get in the studio and finish The Growth. I’ll let you have sex with my crackwhore of a mother if you release your album this year.

    Stop asking for porn on the IC too.

    IT’S THE DONKEY BITCH

  • Baz

    Get on the Australian Hip Hop! Our shit is still good.

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piff

    I agree wit Jerz! last post, why ya’ll niggaz want a rapper to be one-demensional just because thats ya personal preference. Some people don’t wanna hear introspective shit all day and would rather hear a night of clubbing thru the eyes of Budden. Some people don’t care for none of that shit and would rather just hear him lyrically kill a track.

    Bottom-line is this, whateva your prefernce is from da man, are you actually gonna take ya time and $$$$ to support it, or continue to debate about the material free of charge?

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Sinistah aka Sin Piff

    Lmaoo@me just noticing Jerz! last post being directed towards a real good informal friend of mines.

    my last statement/post was generally speaking, but ya’ll two dudes debate on dat shit in an alley and shake hands afterwards.

  • big filth

    Too bad most of these people dont get it and are part of the problem..

    Anyone who argues with that has no idea what hip hop was before it died..

  • http://www.myspace.com/meanassmo Marvelous Mo

    The hunger has changed. We all know that today “Artists” are hungry on a financial aspect, but to look back over a decade and you couldn’t deny that [real] artists were hungry because hip hop was their life. You tell me when was the last time you heard an artist today speak about the FIRST TIME they learned about hip hop and how it captivated them? That’s straight passion that nobody can kill.

    Todays generation is awefully misguided. Artists today can’t even sit down and hold a converstion about the originis of their own art form. If they seen one of the foundinig fathers of hip hop infront of them, they wouldn’t be humble about the impact they had on what we see today…it’s straight up disrespect. What it LITERALLY became today is “The rap game is like the crack game” …its a get money scheme.

    The birth of Hip Hop formed within the community. Hip Hop became widespread thanks to mixtapes, underground shows, DJs…and so on. Hip Hop could be dying, but it isn’t dead. Hip Hop will die when the people die. As long as people still breathe on this planet, it still has a pulse.

  • hawk

    ok lets be real, hiphop is still a major vehicle, but you notice just the play that is being played. I have not listed to the radio in six months till yesterday…and guess what same corny ass songs same count down. look my heart is hurting because we as a people can’t seem to take control of our own art. slaves to the fucking industry. nas is so right we need a major reform in hip hop cause just like ancient history in slavery we have robbed of our goods, letting other races and culture market our shit with nothing to gain but some rented platinum. you know how many different kind of brands of hip hop there are? fuck north fuck south east of west. I love pac and biggie but that was the beginning of the end for hip hop. why because we have been tricked into believing that we are hard, or at most looking like we are….bitches str8 hatin stupid ass bitches. the truth is what else is there to market? look at the versions of rap that separate us from all other music. such as: theoretic scientific reggae love pain female battle north south west east gangsta religious kids dancing undergroud political ridin even smoking songs informative historical hispanic and world hip hop sports cars commercials sound tracks thousands of producers remixes even mixtapes could be a category…..in say like the academy awards of hip hop world wide talking about exposure and direct control of ones art…but we can’t even get along with each other…dumb shit muthafuckers ain’t hard they are pussys, they reform this shitty hip hop world watch who rules the airwaves (the world of hip hop) and respect to the thousands who set this shit off for us

  • cd

    good post but i never did like joe some his songz was fire but most of it i was never feelin

  • Hip-Hop Lives In The South

    If he was selling records he wouldnt be saying this, let alone type a damn blog about it. Get on your grind and stop blaming the rap game for your short comings. Pump up your rap skills fool.

  • http://www.clickafricana.com Dayo

    Great post, Joe! Hip Hop is dead. And it’s taking us down with it!

    http://clickafricana.com/2007/05/27/hip-hop-is-dead/

  • http://www.soundclick.com/dotgenetix dotgenetix

    BE IT AS IT MAY, TO NAY SAY, HIP HOP IS DEAD! YOU NEW SCHOOL NIGGAZ CLAIM.
    BUT… STILL YOUNGINZ IN THIS GAME!
    STILL IN IT FOR FORTUNE AND FAME!
    IF HIP IS DEAD WHO KILLED IT?
    BUT WE AS THE URBAN BLACK CULTURE HAVE CREATED AND RETIRED MORE TRENDZ THEN ANY OTHER MEN…
    IF THIS IS THE CASE,
    BLUES DEAD!
    GOOD OLE’ ROCK AND ROLL DEAD!
    JAZZ DEAD!
    FUNK DEAD!
    SOUL DEAD! WHAT DIED WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN OUR HEAD.
    WE ARE THE PHOENIX, WE RISE FROM ASHES.
    OUR YOUNG OVER SATURATED WITH DEAD THOUGHTS,
    THE HIP HOP ELDERS, TIRED OF CARRYING THE TORCH.
    MAN… WE MUST TAKE IT BACK! TO WHERE IT STARTED!
    FROM DISCO,FUNK,JAZZ,BLUES,AND ROCK
    WE CREATED HIP HOP. EVERY ASPECT OF OUR CULTURE STOLEN THEN RE-ROUTED THEN DISTRIBUTED. WE ARE THE FATHERS MOTHERS AND CHILDREN OF ALL THAT IS FRESH, COOL, HIP,FLY, ETC. RE-INVENT IT! RE-NAME IT! BUT BY ALL MEANS WE WONT SIT BACK AND BITCH ABOUT IT! SO
    TO ALL WHO READ THIS, IF YOU LOVE THIS GENRE’ AND THE OTHERS I NAMED, TAKE ALL THAT WE ARE OWNERS OF
    AND CHANGE THE FUKKIN GAME! ONE.

    http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=5331029&q=hi&ref=2

  • BRAVE

    that was good commentary joe, but imma say this,”hip hop is dead” has some truth to it, according to what u r lookin at, the true of love fo the art is dead. but as far as attention is well alive, ask the south rappers etc weezy, jeezy, TI, LUDA ETC. ALL of the above new york nigga feel. lemme tell u why N.Y aint popping like it used to, simple their is NO UNITY AMONG THE RAPPERS IN N.Y. period. in da golden days there was unity beef was lyrical n kept on a proffesional level, all what mixtape mc’s spit about is kill this n kill that, do u believe that only new york niggas see crime NO. but they spit this is what goin on around 24/7, jamaica has a higher crime rate than tha state of N.Y n u don’t hear beenie man chatting bout killin that rasta man, n same goes fo elephant man, where as bounty killa b feedin all that killin shit n jamaicans aint feelin that, n crime goes on like every second. u see what i’m saying. Solution, Labels need to give east coast rappers mo videos n fuck record sales, example weezy aint movin no units period, but how tha hell is weezy credible enough to b considered to b tha best rapper, simple weezy gets exposure CASH MONEY b puttin out videos regardless if they b goin double wood, niggas who shit on weezy from tha south, luda, T.I.,jeezy, rick ross, trick daddy, big boi,etc ya dig but still he’s mo credible than all of em, look at all of these rappers with jeezy as exception, none of these rappers has videos playin round da clock on B.E.T, weezy’s on every hot song, ya dig exposure, now jigga’s gonna pump fab, so joe watch out niggas gonna b saying fab’s the best in N.Y, why he’s being given exposure, video wit jeezy, new vid wit swizz, now ‘BROOKLYN’ ft jigga n uncle murda, east coast aint puttin out enough vids n there’s no unity tha south is united. damn that what made U.S.A itself powerful. they became united. no longer u see. ll,meth,redman,dmx, tha god lyricist of all time canibus in a vid together, whereas dj khaled got a whole line up of south side heavy hittas rotatin in his vid, again unity n exposure, n niggas get robbed by family, meaning B.E.T N M.T.V PERIOD. these b right here in N.Y and aint playin new york shit, c’mon. think about it.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com n.o

    to that dude truth im from the south so i dont respect what u sayin and if you gonna use a song use the song right its flavor of the month not favor of the month and the south dont really listen to all the shit you think we do. anyway mainstream might die but underground wont

  • http://www.myspace.com/breakbustaz hakim the dream

    what a joke !!!joe budden just flip this garbage song called”pump it up” & now he’s making comment about hip hop death…i think that if hip hop is dead ,he’s part of it
    wack ass who don’t get enough money so now he tryin to save him….just make me laugh

  • it me bitches

    who the fuck said rakim was wak!! who has never heard a tribe album!!! im only 15 nd some of these other 15 year olds dont even kno a tribe called quest nd eric b & rakim they just listen to rappers that rap about money hoes nd clothes nd more money but thats all that they rap about these day we need some MCs that r fiends of a microphone not just out ther to get money

  • Mighty Mos

    Nice post Joe. Altho it looks like you was in a mad hurry when you did this. Gotta admit I never copped the first LP but I felt MM2 is classic hip-hop. You definitley “the nicest dude out since Reasonable Doubt” my dude. But the problem with sales is that rappers ain’t icons no more. Like back in the day it wasn’t no shame in Staning a dude like Nas or Jay or Biggie coz they all stood for something. You could identify with the man and his music. Add that to a little cross over apeal and you got a superstar. I mean look at the fact that Nas CDs and even Jays last one cleaned up first week sales but lost steam real quick. Its coz they got a loyal fan base that don’t wait for the singles. Keep putting out the heat you’ve been putting out on your mixtapes and fans ain’t gonna be shy to part with cash for your CDs coz they’ll be able to identify with Jump Off. I wan’t niggaz to recognise that thats why 50 is a star and Saigon is gonna be a star. They got 500 000 Stans easily coz they were consistently putting out unadulterated music for their core fans for a sec. The rest of niggaz will just jump on the train oce the hype is there. Thats why I call it Hype-Hop nowardays!!

  • ben oberlin

    your right hip hop is dead so push that moo muzik 3 up to june to show the haters who the best really is

  • J Millz

    Yo Buddens…I don’t mind Game(don’t worry I know he ain’t really gangsta LOL)but we(real hip hop heads) need you to drop that hot shit this summer…I can’t listen to 50 talk about the “pasterie shop” and popsicles all summer…you got my support Homie…

  • http://xxlmag.com ToneFelone

    Im 28 and I know…1.The EastCoast fell off. 2.The south on top of shit. 3.I never bumped a whole TRIBE CALLED QUEST cd. 4.Music is to be entertaining and if u need more than that you should try readin. 5.I laugh and turn off dumb music instead of whining about how good it USED to be. 6.Kid n Play are done makin fun songs. 7.Music is for the NOW generation so if I dont dig it I can bang some old shit. 8.Niggas refuse to let rap grow since everytime somebody sound close to somebody else they’re “bitin” 9.Rap is pretty much just as hot but the internet is killin sales. 10.I DO hate the fact that our next great leader could have already been pursuaded that gettin some personal “shine” is more important than changin tha world. 11.Its on US to change what we dont like!!

  • teddy

    ah shut up with your complaininghi hop is dead shit this isnt the 80s ppl arnt break dancin on carboard on the streets times have changed and hip hop will change with times doesnt mean its dead lyrics arnt extinct beats r still fresh its evolving stop crying baby tears about the 80s its fuckin 2007 that break dancin dj shit doesnt represent a generation

  • Prince Of The South

    That’s so true I’m going to keep it real I never bought your cd because I didn’t like your single, but if I see it in the store I’mma cop it. There’s no actual talent in hip hop anymore. Anyone who can stay on beat can make snap music, there’s no talent involved in that. I hate it that no one in my generation has any type of real skill. You’re right when I talk about hip hop people say yeah Eric B and Rakim were cool back in the day and then I’ll spit a line from My Melody and they’ll say oh did you write that. WTF. I’m from the south and got mad that Andre and Big Boi got hated on and same with Scarface, but now we got Hip Hop’s attention and only a few dudes is really comming with any substance on their album. All the club music is cool when you in the club and you want to see someone shake their ass, but you do not want to listen to a whole album of bullshit. Everybody sold drugs now everyone has killed someone. Shut the fuck up with that bullshit. Talk about something real. You don’t have to not make music that will appeal to everyone, afterall you have to eat, but you HAVE, to actually talk about something on your album once you have people’s ears.

  • http://www.myspace.com/rideout RideOut

    Joe…you hit the nail on the head. You’ve been one of my favorite MCs since high school and I just graduated college. As a fellow MC this shit is busted! But what can we do besides stand strong.

    -RIDE

  • London

    alot of the ignorant shit reagrding rap appears on here ..under a few of the other bloggers…

  • Pikasso

    On the real Hip Hop isnt dead is just sleeping for the moment is too big of a culture to say that is dead. Take a trip to europe or even south america and why not japan there b-boys and b-girls allover the world hip-hop is just a mirror of society and who controls the society and the world we live in (north america) are those big corporations that wants you all people to have the latest razor phone or the newest Ipod so wait before saying that our culture is dead i trully respect Nas but personnally it was a good marketing move to do so, now if hip hop is dead you have to show me more than the economical side im talking industry wise album sales are going down for all genres of music not only Hip Hop the music industry is reshaping itself because of internet and yes is a hard reality for those working in the industry. The best example that i can get to explain myself is the Common song ( I used to love Her) he was talking about Hip Hop as a girl he used to love and she went from the east to the west coast where she got corrupted well to make a long story short he got beef with Ice Cube because of that song well i think that there should be a sequel for that song because now she is overseas you have to go to Cuba to see how young people relly love Hip Hop and used it with a purpose just like PE (public enemy) used to do it back in the days you have to see french kids breakdancing with so much skills you have to see graffitis in countries as far as Chile in south america to understand that this culture will last much longer than what we think our reality as north americans is one where we lived in a capitalism system and yes now you see well known rappers selling cars,expensive things on tv ads but is just a reflection of our society we want things fast we are impatient on a consumer level i cannot blame people that in it for the money i cant say that labels presidents are killing Hip Hop because no matter how hard they will try it will simply last forever.

  • sATaLyte

    Hip – Hop is Dull.

    Joe Budden, you are Hip Hop.

  • THAT BOY NOAH

    I STAY BANGIN MY SCREW.

  • Alex-Lil West

    Eyh Man..

    What u sayin is true,
    hip hop is dead.
    Nobody remember what hip hop is about longer.
    Hip hop used to real music before, now its all just cash car and hoes.
    It aint real music anylonger.
    What real hip hop is, is like when biggie rapped bout his life,
    when Pac said people had to change,
    that was real hip hop.
    Now all u hear is People talkin bout how many hoes they got, and how many guns they got in theyr cars.
    I would really hope that somebody would resurect REAL Hip Hop, no more gangster rap.
    But real hip hop, somebody who could get the real hip hop into the world once again man. Somebody who could make real rebel music, tell how it all once was, tell people about the real good thins in the world. Not just about cars and cash.
    I really hope somebody will Resurect the real meaning of Hip Hop 2 this cash controlled world.

  • Why?

    hip hop didnt die because of love songs!!, nothings wrong with making a love song as long as its done right. it dying(its not totally dead) because everybody is trying to be a thug and carry that image, and its sad. people say all these artists that only talk about killing are the ones who sould be selling albums!!that shit is not real hiphop!!! shit, a fun song like chicken noodle soup is for the kid and does a helluva lot more good to the community then a song about killing somebody. talking about gangster shit is not hip hop!!! yeah its a part of it and thats cool, but its like this now..” oo hes not real, hes not talking about selling drugs shit”. Me, i listen to gangsta rap too, but lately ive sort of gotten sick of it, its all so fake, and not just their image, i dont really give a fuck if you really killed somebody or not, but music isnt done out of love for hip hop anymore. its done because they want your money. and i really dont wanna give my hard earned money to somebody not commiting themselves to creating the best product they can. rap music today is like old vomit, its all the same shit beeing thrown back up. and honestly, to me, its not really the down south artists that are doing it. they have fun with it, sure we need some serious rap and a lot of it is extremly wack, its all fun, im jus so sick of hearing east coast rappers only beeing able to talk about 3 things: murder, death kill, o and throw in “ima gangsta”. and these are the muthafuckas you want to be selling records?? yeah they are good lyricly but they have nothing to say! what we need is the soscial criticism back!! that is when it helps communities and expands peoles minds, and then we could throw on the bullshit party songs when we wanna get drunk or party! we just need the element of creativity back!!

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=10406 rap

    true

  • ONTOPMUZIK

    We all know hip hop sucks right now. Thats exactly why Joey need to stop bloggin and put out a damn album. Joe is THE only rapper that can make an ill ass real song wit no punchlines and metaphors then turn around and make a street joint wit punches. No other rapper can do both well. So please atleast hurry up and put out MM3

  • StreetFlight

    well.. he said it perfectly, the way i see it is that so many people now are getting to see that hip hop is dead and are starting to recognize real hip hop… believe me all this poppy club shit will go away, “as soon as all the ice melts you will see the true meaning of hip hop” – KRS-ONE

  • ebony

    hip hop is dying art form. i used to love h.e.r. but the records out now are whack. dont get me wrong, i love a good club banger, cuz i mean when ur out @ the club, wanna dance and whatnot, but beyond that, everything else is just fluff and static.im 23 and i wish the old school at noon or back in the day wednesdays would last forever. i cant take this new hip hop.some of these “artists” are just out to make a quick buck by making the new club song or trying to make a diss record.i fell in love with hip hop as a kid;to hear someone say rakim is wack or they never heard a tribe album is blasphemous.its like knowing ur own heritage;how can u know where ur going if u dont even know where u came from.

  • PAULIE WALNUTS

    HIP HOP AINT DEAD IT JUST TOOK A COUPLE SHOTS
    old rap cats r jus sayin dat shit becuz they dont like the way hiphop is changin
    if u dont like new hip hop simple, niggas DONT FUCCIN LISTEN TO IT!!!!

  • FAIR

    SHUT THE F*CK UP!…Hip hop isnt dead, in fact its not dying..its just on a different path then you want it to be…like KRS ONE said this is a culture, a way of life not just a style of music..as long as you have an mc spittin and a kid willing ti listen hip hop lives! i repeat HIP HOP LIVES! in fact im ashamed of you quote joe you wish you never were involved? im proud to be involved(even if its just asa fan) because i know i took part/taking part in a great thing from kool herc to dj unk i love rap if you dont like the shit on the radio demand something else fuck a label.. a label can’t take integrity or morals away from a man and they only own your rights not the rights to your soul.. MAKE GOOD MUSIC first let the money come with it. if the people want it they’ll buy it not making music just for the money…you need 10 minutes buddy….fuck the haters, the critics, the djs who wont play your shit, fuck em all just make music “if you build it they will come” sad i had to quote a kevin costner movie to try and prove a point!

  • 25 to life

    this lame nigga has dj drama’s work ethic. we know you have no musical career(getting shelved sucks doesn’t it)so why aren’t you blogging more often.

  • 25 to life

    this lame nigga has dj drama’s work ethic. we know you have no musical career(getting shelved sucks doesn’t it)so why aren’t you blogging more often.

  • 25 to life

    fire joe budden

  • http://MYSPACE.COM/MSMELIMELZ MELIMELZ

    I AGREE WITH YOU TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. YEA HIPHOP DIED IN THE SENSE OF MAINSTREAM & PUBLICITY WHERE AS GARBAGE IS BEING EXPOSED & KEEPING THE TRUTH IN THE DARK BUT AS SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED HERE THERES ALOTT OF DUDES OUT THERE STILL RIDING WITH HIPHOP & SUCH AS YOURSELF JOE, PERSONALLY YOURE ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED ARTISTS OUT TODAY BUT YOURE STILL RECOGNIZED BY THOSE WHO APPRECIATE & LOVE REAL HIPHOP & NOT JUST SOME SWAG ONA BEAT THAT YOU CAN POP LOCK DROP & SNAP TO. & ALTHOUGH THATS ONE GENRES “THING” TO SOME ITS JUST NOT & ITS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED AS MUSIC. BUT THEN AGAIN WHAT IS MUSIC? ITS SO TWISTED ITS A MATTER OF TASTE & APPRECIATION FOR WHAT YOU AS A PERSON LOVE OR GREW TO LOVE FROM THE -GET. IF YOU’VE BEEN DOWN SOUTH & GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO THAT MUSIC THEN THAT IS HIPHOP TO YOU, NOT WHAT MOST UP NORTH RESPECT AS TO THE DJ, EMCEE, FCK AN IMAGE IMA SAY WHAT I GOTTA SAY RAW & REAL MUSIC BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. I DONT BELIEVE HIPHOP IS DEAD BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A LOVE FOR SOMETHING IT NEVER REALLY DIES IN YOUR EYES & THERES ALOT OF OTHER ARTISTS WHO STILL STRIVE TO MAINTAIN THAT TRUTH IN MUSIC & ALTHOUGH THEY DONT GET THE AIRPLAY OR LABEL LOVE THAT THEY DESERVE OR SHOULD BE GETTING, THEIR FANBASE & AMOUNT OF RECOGNITION IS CRAZYY & IF YOURE A BELIEVER OF HIPHOP & ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, THATS MORE THAN ANY LABEL OR ANY AIRPLAY CAN GIVE. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU WITH THE RADIO & LABELS TO BLAME FOR HIPHOP BEING PUT ON THE SHELF TO GIVE SOME TALENTLESS IMAGE SPOTLIGHT TO PLEASE THE TEENY BOPPERS BUT THATS LIFE, ITS FCKD UP BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. THEY HEAR THE TRUTH BUT AS LONG AS THEY CAN SIT ON THEIR POCKETS & LIVING LOVELY, THEY WONT BUDGE. IT’S A DAMN SHAME BUT WHATEVER TICKLES YOUR FANCY BY ALL MEANS, RIDE WITH IT I DONT SUPPORT THE BULLSHIT, I RESPECT LYRICS ABOVE ALL & A BEAT THAT HAS MY UNDIVIDED ATTENTION IM ALL EARS & ALL HEART. BY ALL MEANS, HIPHOP IS ALIVE AT LEAST WITH THOSE THAT BELIEVE, IT ISNT ALL ABOUT THE LIMELIGHT.

    RESPECT IT OR HATE IT; I VOICED MY POINT OF VIEW. XOXO MELZ.

  • life sentence

    why don’t rappers talk to us about what we really wanna hear you know the groupies,money, jewelry instead they give us this lame shit.I know you bagged gloria velez tellus how was she in bed and share some naked pictures with us. go over to dallaspenn.com and see how he tells us about stealing and crashing it after gettin some head.

  • Atl’s own

    It may be dead up there; but she alive well down here.

  • http://www.myspace.com/alwaysawarrior Revolution

    Aigh…first off, good blog here. I was half expecting some random bullshit about you bragging or something, but nice to see you got some modesty. Now onto the subject of ‘hip-hop is dead’….I do agree with your opinions…..but I believe that our culture is becoming so diversified, that you’re not going to have that pure style that many true emcees reach for nowadays. I mean, you got young white girls who want to listen to the latest fad n shit who don’t understand true lyricism, and you got young black teenagers who’d rather listen to shit like Lil Wayne & Young Jeezy than a lyrical artist, such as Rakim or Raekwon. I’m not stereotyping either of these races, I’m just saying, for the most part, that’s what mainstream America is viewing and getting, and the labels know how to milk that shit, for all its worth. Personally, I’d rather listen to a deep and complex hip-hop joint than a shallow and hypocritical guns/drugs joint anyday of the week, but it seems that the public disagrees with me. I’m not hating on those ‘shallow’ rappers, if it makes you money, then do you. But in turn, what your saying is….oh, fuck it…I’ll forget the roots of hip-hop and why it was created and I’ll just take the cash over heart…I’ll take the bullshit ‘pop lock n drop it’ shit over true lyricism….and that shit is fucked up..cause we(by we, I mean intelligent folk who listen to hip-hop and understand lyricism) don’t feel like hearing your bullshit being played on the radio 40 times a day…what the fuck happened to the soul and the passion for hip-hop? Now, it’s all about who can beef with who and who can shoot up the most people and do the most drugs….fuck outta here….this is hip-hop..this ain’t the prison joint.

    Personally, I was born in the South, I’ve lived in the South for a majority of my life, and I am honestly disgraced by half of the bullshit that comes out of this region. I’m lucky I went up to New York(military brat)…because if not? I would of had a shallow mind about hip-hop music, and I would of been one of the main dudes riding the FUCK outta Lil Wayne’s dick on a rap board. Hip-Hop ain’t just dead in the South though…it’s a problem that every group and every region in the United States has to deal with, on the daily. What happened to true lyricism? what happened to the Rakim Joints, the Nas Joints…and the Big L joints? These motherfuckers don’t know….

    Oh, and another thing….why is Nas so goddamn hated? That man is one of the few true lyricists left….and he continues to receive flak and get shit for putting out songs that aren’t club bangers and aren’t mainstream fuckin trash…dudes emotion and delivery on tracks is almost untouched…and yall need to wake up and realize that Nas wasn’t dissing the culture when he said ‘Hip Hop is Dead’…but instead, he’s trying to revive the son of a bitch, and trying to open your damn ears and learn the true art of expression in its lyrical form.

    Ahhh, anyways. Good piece yo…I look forward to seeing some more indepth looks at hip-hop and lyricism and just overall more blogging from you soon.

    Peace!

  • Blemish

    Hip hop got a terminal illeness when whoever is in charge of putting out Joe Budden’s album starting slacking. The only cure is for Budden to drop MM3 or The Growth!! I can’t wait for Joey to bring hip hop back to life so i can tell everyone, “I TOLD YOU SO!!” Jumpoff, all of JerZ is behind you so just keep grinding and when your album come out i’m sure it’ll be worth the wait!! We all support you and stay real just like you are thats what sets you apart from everybody else.

  • Blemish

    hip hop died a lil bit more when stack bundles died.

  • the revolution will NOT be televised

    good blog.. I’ve been thinking the same for the past few years.. Glad to see the artist’s perspective on it. Still waiting on Mood Muzik 3 too lol.

  • grapes

    WHY THE FUCK DO ALL YOU HIP-HOP ARTISTS GOTTA BE SO GREEDY? I know growing up in the guttas is hard, but DAMN. How bout this: instead of enjoying it by yourself, getting 4 mansions, 6 cars, a jet plane, and still having millions to keep in the bank. SHARE IT AROUND. pass it to your brothers and sisters in the ghetto, help them out! But then again, if you get rid of the ghetto, hip-hop will REALLY be dead. So it’s a bit of a dilemma. Either everyone becomes wealthy enough to live suburban and hip-hop dies, or rappers stay greedy, keep their money, and let some next kid die due to hunger. I don’t know bout all y’all, but I’ll listen to some stupid ass rappers talking bout poppin’, lockin’, and droppin’ rather than let my people in the hood keep dying. Keep ya heads up.

  • http://www.myspace.com/essncee2 Sigh-Rush

    HipHop’s Only Dead If U Look At It That Way, We Kill It Everyday By Thinking Negative & Listening 2 Dudes Who Rhymez Wit No Sense,
    Do What U Do…
    2 progress we must dare 2 not let anything amongst or around us affect one anothers behaviour or thinkin’,
    Peeps Care 2 Much Bout’ Things That Ain’t Worthy 2 Chill At R Minds Nowadayz.

    Bless!

  • BlakSteel

    HIP-HOP is dead that’s for sure and this music they got out now is for the deaf,dumb and blind.It has no motivation and drive just a bunch of cats (copy cats at that and not that go at it) doing the same shit and calling something else and we as an audience tolirate this bullshit and fall in line like a robot.If aong has a cathy hook no matter the lyrical contents it’s considered a hot record.These dudes are programed and see through and really what fucks me up is they be jocking a nigga to get and soon as he blow he’s the best at what he’s doing no respect,no respect culture or history of the game that these dudes eating off of but as long as the money is right he’ll do his moma point blank.HIP-HOP has to evolve into of a more mature form of communiucation thats balanced showing the positive along with the negative.Everybody these days on the same shit getting money I’m a boss,fuck these hoe’s(I know a few but damn there are plenty of good woman but you cats gotta step your game up) or I don’t like that nigga some weak ass beef.That’s what’s killing HIP-HOP we need more artist who loves his craft and less rappers in love with money.

  • Cuban Link

    are you gonna do anymore blogs or was this just some steem you had to blow out?

  • http://myspace Red Rox

    We killed it. The fans. there are more fans than they are rappers, DJs, producers, rec’ companies. We have more of the say. And we are saying commercial.

    Just like in politics. Other countries fight for their power. We sit and complain.

    Hip-Hop started over for me. I went back to the old school rap and it feels new to me.

    R.I.P. HIP-HOP to the Reborn.

  • Blemish

    MAKE ANOTHER BLOG!!!!!!!!!

  • bigbankhank

    man fuck this dude nigga you disrespecting the true artist out therre thats grinding. Hip hop will never die you career is dead yes. but hip hop is not. the new movement is just not about the radio now its brewing up wait until pap lupe sai z-ro trae all these true artist start topping the charts then you will see hip hop is just going through a cycle your career on the other hand is threw. If hiphop is dead then you killed it in yourself. Nobody said hip hop lives threw radio and tv dumbass hip hop lives in you. and if you dont see that then homeboi you not hip hop. hip hop started it didnt have global attention so was it dead then hell no cuz it lived in the artist and the fans. so suck a dick with that bullshit get off this damn site with that sad talkin shit. go invest ya money in somthing. cuz i lost all respect for you

  • suckacock

    where are you ? that is it you done.

  • Cuban Link

    Um Fuck you Big Bank Hank.

    Joe, get your lazy ass outta the “studio” and do another blog!

  • bigbankhank

    gay asss cuban link aint castro doing well now so watch ya back. Fuck you was orignated by gay people in prison. You better tay behind your computer before castro call all yall back. leave yal females here though cuz cuban females got some good pussy you wouldnt know cuz you to busy tellin dudes you want to fuck them.
    Fuck this homo ass joe Budden damn right tell him get out the studio his career is though. He wont sell 10 thousdan in his own state. As a matter of fact the truth out of New Jersey goes by the name of Miss Nana A 16 year old girl that will tear joe budden a new asshole. She a beast.
    She is hiphop now and the future. hiphop lives homeboi dont be mad cuz you aint gettn t.v. time no more that dpont mean hiphop dead.

    JOE BUDDED DOING BLOGS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha fuckin lame. i guess ya music career is officially through most niggas try acting, open stores, real estate this homo writing blogs and listen to the homo dickriders Go budden Go.
    Cuban link would like nothing else but to swallow buddens cum.
    fuck you fake ass cuban stink. why do cubans stink anyway is it because of the ocean water yall swam in to get here. Who yall got to represent yall fat joe?????? fuck you homes

  • RYAN

    ^Damn, does anyone else think Big Bank Hank overreacted a “bit”.LOL pussies catching feelings, its just the nets son, and Budden would rip you up.In the real world.Which is what really counts, isn’t it?

    Do ya thang Joe!

  • mondreka lauderdale

    joe u could be the first person besides nas to be man enough to admit the game is foul. I was watchin mtv2 and they had lil wanyne as the hottest mc his name was above names like andre (ice cold ,3 stacks)3000, jay-z, and nas wasnt one the list. Jim jones was on the list but nas isnt are u insane. hip-hop isn’t about money or the birds u may or may not have fliped its about telling ur story and right now everyones story sounds the same.

  • uh

    raekwon was makin tracks b4 jkwon was 10 fuckin disgrace

  • http://www.google.com buck

    suck my balls nun ya as young as me

  • DRE PICA$$O

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  • MANNY VEGA

    I DONT THINK HIP HOP IS DEAD I THINK ALOT OF SHIT OUT IS WHACK I THINK ALOT OF THE MAJORITY OF SO CALLED RAPPERS IS WHACK.
    IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE MONEY (BLING) AND PUSSY EVERYWHERE I DONT THINK THIS SHIT WOULD BE POSTED.
    WE NEED MORE STREET HARD HITTIN GRIMEY, RZA BEATS,GANGSTARR,BRING BACK THE OLD SCHOOL SHIT, THE HIP HOP THAT WAS IN THE 80`S AND 90`S MOBB DEEPS 1st ALBUM WU TANGS 1st ALBUM, BRAND NUBIAN. C MON MAN WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO HERE THE SAME SHIT ON EVERY CD. WE NEED MORE DJ`S. NOT EVERYBODY TALKIN BOUT THE SAME SHIT (LOOK AT MY GRILL MY ICE MY .44 MY WHIP, MY RIMS,MY BITCH,MY MONEY.
    IM SORRY BUT HAVE NOT BOUGHT ANYTHING NEW THE NEWEST CD THAT I HAVE IS THE T.S. CD. I RATHER BUY ALL MY OLD SHIT LIKE
    ILLMATIC,RAKIM,RUN DMC, BEASTIE BOYS,
    IM ONLY 26 SO I GREW UP ON THAT THESE YOUNG CATS DONT KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT 2 TURN TABLES ONE MIC.

    I THINK IF YOU CANT FREESTYLE, OR WRITE YOUR OWN RAPS YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE ON A MIC. I BEEN WRITING FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND MY OLDEST WORN OUT NOTE BOOK IS HOTTER THEN SOME OF THESE NEW GUYS OUT HERE.
    I REMEMBER WHEN WU-TANG BROUGHT GOLD FRONTS IN THE SCENE NOW EVERYBODY THINKS ITS A NEW THING. I LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THESE NEW GUYS SWALLOW A DIAMOND DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD DIG IT OUT OF THEIR SHIT ….LOL

  • mack 1

    a hit song today is like when crack was selling yesterday everyone wants a hit

  • the truth

    “niggas cant talk about crime no more, till i’m no more” real talk!!!!niggas in the game been tryin to holla lik jigga since ‘black album’ check out, its all about money now & dont get me wrong u should get payed, word-up, but come on, thats why i kept bumpin Nas, he kept it to the street but money dudes still feel it.thats where he’s ahead of the competition.Nas was jay-z only competition & now they squash that beef becuse they both realize that no 1 can touch they level! i mean no to be on nas dick, but check the career,from ’94 till ’08 & still rappin for the streets.Jay-z came in ’96 with gettin ur money up from they niggas started to really bling, big & pac use to bling also but never talk about as much & cats do now.Each time u hear a rap song, dudes been stay “i got money” & “i got a maybac & bentley”…..shit i happy as fuck if u got it, but be real spit some shit that fan can love & donate some fuckin money is u a balla!!!!!! P.S GUESS IT TIME FOR MY 1ST ALBUM TO HIT THE STREET SOON, LOOK OUT FOR ME JHEART “WAT THE WORLDS BEEN WAITIN FOR” 1 LOVE Y’ALL

  • yup

    YES! every word is true and yall know it. I still listen to that real shit though! Fuck MiMS!

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    Hip hop is still alive in Europe, show like “You can dance” show that is on time