Is Jay-Z leaving Def Jam?

It’s often been put forth that I’m a hypocrite because a) I refer to Jay-Z as the fake president of Def Jam, but b) I blame everything that’s gone wrong with the label in the past three years on Jay-Z – the idea obviously being that if Jay-Z isn’t the real president of Def Jam anyway, then how can you blame any of this on him?

But I’m gonna go ahead and put forth that this doesn’t make me hypocritical in the least bit. My theory is that Def Jam is in the state that it’s in because it’s run by a buncha fake-ass executives. You didn’t hear all this complaining when the label was being run by the original tall Israeli Lyor Cohen, now did you?

Granted, Jay-Z became fake president of Def Jam during a time in which hardly any rap albums are selling very well anyway, but the general consensus has been that his effort to promote anyone other than himself has been pretty feeble. The result has been a series of high profile flops by ostensibly talented artists and the attendant subsequent fingerpointing.

Later this year will mark the end of Jay-Z’s current three-year deal with Def Jam, and word on the street is that he won’t be back for another term. Obviously there’s a case to be made for getting rid of him for performance reasons anyway, but word on the street is that the real issue is a personal rift between Jay and Island Def Jam chief LA Reid.

You’ll recall that LA Reid is the original artist turned failed record exec slash cause celebre of the black ignorati. He failed to turn a profit at Arista Records despite the fact that R&B albums by acts like TLC and Ursher were selling like baggies with cocaine in them. So he was canned from there, only to ascend to the top position at Island Def Jam around the same time they hired Jay-Z.

To hear the rumor mill tell it, Reid is pissed at Jay because Jay gets more pub than he does, and he spends more time attending to his umpteen various other business ventures than he does at his actual job as the fake president of Def Jam. But my guess is that Reid may be concerned that there isn’t room for more than one quota hire at IDJ. After all, somebody’s gotta know what they’re doing, right?

According to one rumor, Jay might be leaving Def Jam to form a new label with Beyonce. I’ll believe that one when I see it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t end up back at Def Jam one way or the other.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Frankly, I don’t give a damn about this guy. He is what you call irrelevant at this point. Do you care about what is going on with Jay-z? I don’t.

  • thoreauly77

    enlightening.

  • http://xxlmag.com houston’s finest

    thank god he won’t be back!!! this nigga done ran def jam to the fuckin ground. and niggas would have 2 be stupid to go sign to gay-z and bey’s label, unless you like getting you album pushed back 1 million times

  • Jones

    Here is the thing DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE, no one gives a fuck what you think. So go back to smuggling lil Waynes sausage up your hole, and remeber that Jay Z is one of the last legends in the rap game.

  • Incilin

    Going on your logic, I think it would be perfectly fine to say that the Jay is the fake president because the TI’s put him there. So when they fuck up d-bags like you will just blame Jay and make him look bad rather than going ahead and dissing the TIs.

    I really think Nore’s “Shame On You” ought to be mentioned here (It is surely the inspiration for this post, so to speak) And that part of ay not promoting anyone isn’t all that true since Kayne did sell 850 his first week which I remember him saying at his Grammy acceptence speach was a Def Jam record. Plus Luda, Jeezy, and Rick Ross put out sucessful records (by todays standards). But these days its hard to guess. what’s happening with Def jam.

  • these posts are racist

    Def Jam like any other company, seeks to maximize profits, correct? If Jay-Z is a fake executive, then who is calling the shots? Or do you argue that he is calling the shots, which in turn leads to Def Jam’s poor record? If so, why does Def Jam keep him on?

  • pho3nix!

    for his first time at bein in charge hes dun ‘ok’, i give credit for some of the artists on the roster for xample ‘fabolous’..the way its all happenin aint right, cos fabs a franchise playa, he shuda got the same treatment as jeezy if not better and ross, nas i understand, but funny how jayz album gets the best publicity!

  • Danny

    Jay-Z is amazing

  • John Cochran

    I read an article in Complex on Nas. He said he turned down the exec job at atlantic cause rappers are crazy and would blame thier failing albums on him. I think thats what Jay is going through. I mean, he could’ve promoted Ghost, Meth, Red, and others more, but in the end isnt your career in your own hands? They were prolly used to Lyor doing all the work, now he gone and they gotta grind. You dont hear jeezy, neyo, kanye, or luda bitchin. Cause they always out thier stayin relevent.

  • these posts are racist

    Where is my post???!!!!! You wouldn’t post it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • HHS1982

    I think whoever is making the decisions at Def Jam is doing a pretty good job. Like INCILIN said,there have been several (relatively) successful projects during Jay’s tenure and those projects were given legs to run on. But let’s be pefectly honest; as nice of MC’s as Red and Meth are they are NO LONGER COMMERCIALLY VIABLE in today’s hip-hop market. Whoever decided not to drop chips did them a favor because now they don’t have a huge budget to recoup. And seriously, LL? his career has been done for years and he refuses to accept it N.O.R.E? He was a gold artist when niggas was regularly seling 2 – 5 million! At least he was smart enough to see the proof in the pudding, get his release and go the independant route. These artist should feel lucky that they actually dropped albums and weren’t shelved, at least they can do get a little more show $$. The fact of the matter is that this is a business; there’s profits and losses and you don’t profit by spending millions of dollars promoting a product that’s obsolete in the market place. And it’s not the TI’s fault, it’s ours for not buying the records. I’m still bumping Ghost’s Fishscale but I never bought it so me and everyone else like me is to blame. And like the fake president said on his on Kingdom Come:

    “The game’s fucked up; niggas beats is bangin’
    your hooks did it, your lyrics didn’t
    your gangsta look did it
    so I would write I y’all could get it
    being intricate will get you wood
    CRITICS on the INTERNET say you should spit it,
    I’m like you should BUY IT NIGGA THAT’S GOOD BUSINESS.”

  • these posts are racist

    BOL-

    You are still inconsistent. A fake/token executive, by definition does nothing. This is simple logic. You can say he’s a fake executive and therefore has no impact on Def Jam’s real operations or you can say he’s a real executive but does a bad job at it and therefore has a negative impact on Def Jam’s operations, but you can’t say both.

    “You didn’t hear all this complaining when the label was being run by the original tall Israeli Lyor Cohen, now did you?”

    Citing some of Def Jam’s rappers complaints about Jay-Z is not evidence that Jay is a bad CEO or even a fake Executive, but rather, similar to you, they are self hating. Its a mentality where a brotha can take orders from a white man in an executive position, but not a young fresh to def brotha (Jay-Z) calling the shots. Their jealousy prohibits them from letting him lead them.

  • ThingAlec

    Def Jam isnt the only label with problems selling music. Pretty much the whole industry of hip-hop is. But then again, for the past half a year, Def Jam has been putting out pretty good albums.

    Game Theory
    Fishscale and More fish (which were equally as good)
    Hip-Hop is Dead
    Red Gone Wild
    Release Therapy (I didnt really like this album but it did win a Grammy.)

  • http://www.myspace.com/southcrak nt1

    let me educate you damn idiots,sean carter was hired as the president of urban music at def jam,i don’t understand why you fools think he is the president of def jam ltd,Bol next time you get high and decide share your bullshit conspiracy theories,make sure you read the corporate structure/alignment @ def jam properly and stop giving people titles that do not belong to them.You,sir are the reason there are so many dumb ass kids in the hood who have no idea of what they are talking about.By the way what is your beef with Jay Z?Do you have a propblem with capitalistic niggaz,coz you are damn broke?Or are you being paid by Dame Dash to say all these things about s.carter?nigga dont hate

  • these posts are racist

    my posts are not being posted.

  • http://www,msn.com King Ben

    Fuck Def Jam, did you see the mass shootings at virginia tech! 32 DEAD THIS FUCKING HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! Pray for these families seriously GOD BLESS!

  • yaboy

    these posts are racist Says:

    April 16th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
    my posts are not being posted
    ^

    YES they are you goddamn gaykid

  • http://www.myspace.com/ Justice

    What was Def Jam before Jay arrived? Thank you, if not for his rocafella brand, Def Jeff..I mean Def Jam would have been in the hole long ago. Don’t have such a short mememory folks.

  • DC’s Finest

    fuc yall, Jay dat nigga. Def Jam wasn’t doin shit wit their artist, LLCoolJ Joe Budden Method Man etc. all of em flopped. Jay and Kanye were the only successful dudes on their. So wouldn’t it make since to make him the president.
    Rick Ross
    Fabolous
    Jeezy
    NAS!
    Red Man
    All of em got potential for success cuz of Jay…
    So stop hatin Bol, and pay your rent for your studio apartment(asuming you are not homeless)…

  • Gate13

    I dont give a fuck about none of this Label business shit cause i like Hip-Hop and as long as there are true lyricall and real Mcs that i can listen to its all good.

    The thing with jay z is that he has completely changed in 11 years. He used to be a great rapper that gave people some good shit to lisen to but now he just another business man in a suit. I got Kingdom come on a copied cd from a homeboy that downloaded it and even then it took me two days to listen to it. I went to the store and bought Reasonable Doubt and as soon as i got home i repeatedly listened to it.

    By the way i also repeatedly listened to HipHop is dead as soon as i got it.

    Nas beat Jay easy.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >Citing some of Def Jam’s rappers complaints about Jay-Z is not evidence that Jay is a bad CEO or even a fake Executive, but rather, similar to you, they are self hating.

    So that’s going to be your answer to everything in life, huh?

  • John Cochran

    Perfect HHS. Alot of artist that we may like are just not relevent to everyone else anymore. If I was in his position I’d put out a Rick Ross album before a Ghost album cause itll make a lil more dough. Yall gotta understand, yeah he’s a rapper but he took the job of an exec, so he must act accordingly. To be honest, I dont know why certain artist arent indy anyway. I mean cmon, red and meth were a household name at one point. And the wu should’ve been thier own label and put out shit every week like dipshit. they didnt capitalize when they were hot, now they whining.

  • Prince Of The South

    Four artists Jigga signed that are leading the next generation of Def Jam. Jeezy, Rick Ross, Rhianna and Ne-yo. Yeah he screwed up some of the more established artists like Meth, LL, and Fab but the new blood he’s signed three of them are multiplatinum artists and one gold act, Rick Ross. You can’t knock him for that. B/c it’s Jay-z people hate, but if it was someone else they’d leave it alone.

  • DANJA29

    Luda ain’t cryin’ about Jay not doin’ his job. Neither is Jeezy. Neither is Kanye. Neither are Ne-Yo, Rick Ross, Nas, or Rihanna. Redman and Ghost ain’t even cryin’ and their shit’s floppin’. The only ones who are? Niggas who were already catchin’ bricks and blamin’ the label since before Jay was in office.

  • brooks h

    once again, not only are you ignorant, but just factually incorrect. that WAS the word on the streets like 3 weeks ago…LA just said he loves Jay and wants him to stay on. Also, LA was responsible for brining Outkast etc. and was and is widely considered one of the best execs in the game. you’re a fagot and a racist and constipated

  • Gate13

    Someone needs to do a post on what hip hop could have been and might have been if certain things turned out differently. Also what would have cats like B.I.G, Pac and Big L done if they were around today.

  • Eric

    I bet if you ask the successful artists — notice I didn’t just say rappers — if Jay-Z is doing a bad job, and they’ll all say you’re crazy. The only people who complain are the old, washed up rappers who’s last few albums wasn’t selling anyway. Just because Jay’s face is out there and they probably was haters when he was just they peer, they want him to fail cause he’s the boss. Look at people like LL Cool J. How could he blame Hov for his weak album failing? And the Roots — their albums weren’t selling before, so they have nothing to complain about. What’s the last Method Man album you cared about? Go ask Luda or Jeezy or Rick Ross how they feel — their happy, and they realize that if they fail, it just might be the damn music

  • these posts are racist

    “So that’s going to be your answer to everything in life, huh?”

    No BOL, its not my answer to everything in life. In fact, in this comment section I give another answer to your inconsistent fake executive “argument”. The self hating theory is about a specific issue. I have never heard you or anyone else actually discuss what it is that makes Jay-Z either a fake executive or a bad executive.

    I conclude that it is jealousy and self hate because i never hear an analysis about what he is NOT doing that he SHOULD be doing, but rather what he is doing for himself. In other words Todd Smith, et. al. will say things like, he spends a lot of time/money promoting his album, etc. but do not say what he is not doing for them that Lyor or anyone else did or would do for them.

  • sk

    SOME OF THESE POSTS ARE ON POINT WHILE OTHERS ARE SHAKY AT BEST.

    @GATE13

    WHO DOESN’T CHANGE OVER THE YEARS? ARE YOU THE SAME WHEN YOU WERE SAY 10 YRS OLD? KINGDOM COME WENT OVER YA HEAD GO LISTEN CAREFULLY.

    @JUSTICE
    TOOK THE WORDS FROM MY KEYBOARD. PLUS JA & ASHANTI WAS ON FIRE.

    @BOL
    HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET, LL,METH,KEITH MURRAY HAD THE SAME COMPLAINTS. THE DIFFERENCE IS LYOR WAS LIKE FUCK YA’LL YA’LL NOT HOT RIGHT NOW(JAY,JA,&DMX IS) SO I’M NOT SPENDING NO MONEY ON YA’LL, AND THEIR COMPLAINTS TO THE PUBLIC WENT ON DEAF EARS. LMAO

    @N-CRED
    JAY DIDN’T TAKE YA DEMO. SO YOU HAVE A VENDETTA. YOU DON’T CARE? WHY POST THEN?

    CO-SIGN HHS1982

  • http://almostaexpert.com missile 6

    Bol, you stay in the I hate Jay fan club, don’t you? I went out and bought all those albums, Ghostface, Methodman, Redman. Those albums didn’t sell because the era of real rap has passed pretty much. They aren’t commercial enough. Its not because no one knew they were dropping albums. If they would have sold , nobody would be giving Jay credit, cause he didn’t write the rhymes. If they don’t sell, then he is at fault. Get off the Jay hate wagon and be honest about the type of music that will and won’t sell.

  • jordany

    HHS1982 seems to be the only nigga who get’s it. Everything dude said was on point , shouts to u my nig.

  • killa

    why does everyone forget that he made 3 CDs stealin big’s shit? why doesnt anyone remember the fact that biggie had to fucking die for jay to blow up. so fuck him his shit aint even close to real.

  • http://www.myspace.com/theanticorp SONNY CHEEBA

    HHS1982- And like the fake president said on his on Kingdom Come:

    “The game’s fucked up; niggas beats is bangin’
    your hooks did it, your lyrics didn’t
    your gangsta look did it
    so I would write I y’all could get it
    being intricate will get you wood
    CRITICS on the INTERNET say you should spit it,
    I’m like you should BUY IT NIGGA THAT’S GOOD BUSINESS.”

    ^^^my thoughts exactly!

    even if ur album is GOOD, niggaz still ain’t buying it!

    some dude on a thread said “i don’t pay for things that are free: water, pussy, and music”

    That’s how niggaz think…

    the future of MUSIC is VISUAL ALBUMS… it’s WAYYYY harder to rip a movie than a cd, therefore if it’s worth it, people will almost be forced to copp…

  • Dr Flav

    All I have to ask is, what spectacular feat has he accomplished for Def Jam since he came into office? (If you say Nas signing, then Hov lost (c) Nah Right) I would state that a seasoned business executive could have accomplished the same if not better results for half the cost. IDJ had greater expectations for Jay’s hiring, if you dont believe that, you are blinded by his stardom, unfortunately that is what IDJ gambled and lost on. On the bright side, “Jay Z does an excellent job of promoting Jay Z.” Roffle

  • http://XXL Buck The WORLD

    FUCK JAY u know wat is the problem wit Def Jam is. It is that Jay dosen’t give a fuck about the old artists like Method Man,LL Cool J, Redman,NORE,Ghostface Killah without them Def jam wouldn’t be as big as it is today they put Def Jam on the map in the 90′s they were puttin work while Jay was still shouting “Roc A Fella” Jay only cares about the new artists like Faboulus,Young Jezzy and Ludacris (and Nas to but he was a new artist on Def Jam) and he promotes them more to. Exsample he made Faboulus a video, he made Jezzy 2 vids, Luda 2 vids, and Nas 2 vids. Okay now look at da old artists NORE 1 vid but no promotion, he didn’t even care bout Meths album he just threw it out there no vid or promotion and it was a pretty good album, LL Cool J had 1 vid and horrible promotion, Ghostface didn’t get a vid or promotion either and Redmans album was hot but Jay ignored that to yeah he made a vid for his album 2 days before his album dropped so people hardly got to hear it. Jay promoted his album more then anybody he made 3 vids for his album his first two were good enough and he spent too much money promoteing his album i heard he went over the limit on promotion. See thats why he ruined Def jam

  • Blazeerzzz

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…. What??

  • these posts are racist

    “why does everyone forget that he made 3 CDs stealin big’s shit? why doesnt anyone remember the fact that biggie had to fucking die for jay to blow up. so fuck him his shit aint even close to real.”

    Notorius BIG featuring Bone Thugs…”I’ma tell you like a n**** told me, cash rules everthing around me…”

    Biggie didn’t cite Wu Tang when he said this, was he biting? No. This is part of hip hop.

    Moreover, Jay was his friend and is an amazing rapper, he does it out of respect, not necessity.

  • these posts are racist

    Dr Flav, I have to disagree with you. I believe Jay is a valuable asset to Def jam and a great businessman. He also knows what it means to be an artist. He was put in that position because of his ability to spot talent, understand the position of an artist and because of his business skills. He is a seasoned exec. He and Dame start Roc-a-fella music and clothing, etc. from scratch. His business education is worth a lot more than any MBA cat from Wharton or Harvard.

    I have nothing but respect for Jay-Z as a business man, not only as a rap star.

  • MB

    The criticism of Jay is unfair. I can not believe that WE as black people continue to hate on the legend. It appears to me, that when WE get a position of authority, WE can not be accepted by our own people. We continually hate on each other why white people laugh at us. There were some successful albums that came from def jam during Jay’s presidency. The cats that flopped, been flopping. I can not think of the last time I wanted to buy an LL album. The prior 2 DMX albums were also bad. If you want to sell more albums, MAKE BETTER MUSIC. Some of the main artists complaining, have been irrelevent for some time. Don’t blame Jay, blame yourself, blame your fans, or blame bootlegging.

  • davewall

    You know I read this blog on a regular basis with the hope that you will grow up and give Jay his due. Before became prez of Def Jam only Luda and Kanye were really relevant in terms of sales. Now you have Jeezy, Nas, Rick Ross, Rihanna, Ne-Yo, along with Luda and Jay himself. Not to mention signing Fabolous. So what some cat’s flopped, so has half the industry. Def Jam is still getting money.

  • Big Ron

    remember the flick death of a dynasty i truly thank that hov&dame is pulling a fast one on everyone don’t be surprise to see it ! remember big ron said first!
    p.s. trash ass lame rappers at def jam step your game up meth was hot before hov redman with the hitsquad & remember LL from my radio days i need love mama said knock u out the break of dawn u told need hov to sell your record i guess than your not the G.O.A.T. HOV FUCK EM!

  • Big Ron

    remember the flick death of a dynasty i truly thank that hov&dame is pulling a fast one on everyone don’t be surprise to see it ! remember big ron said first!
    p.s. trash ass lame rappers at def jam step your game up meth was hot before hov redman with the hitsquad & remember LL from my radio days i need love mama said knock u out the break of dawn u told need hov to sell your record i guess than your not the G.O.A.T. HOV FUCK EM!

  • BIGNAT

    jay make the next beyonce and then make bleek the star you keep claiming he is hahahahahaha

  • Gate13

    “SK Says: @ GATE13

    WHO DOESN’T CHANGE OVER THE YEARS? ARE YOU THE SAME WHEN YOU WERE SAY 10 YRS OLD? KINGDOM COME WENT OVER YA HEAD GO LISTEN CAREFULLY.

    I didnt say that people dont’t change. That was actually my point. Back then people had respect for jay and the way he handled himself but now he is a completely different person who i still respect but mainly because of what he did in the past. whilst i like the black album, think fade to black is off the hook and my favorite concert that ive been to is one of his i have been dissapointed in what he has done since then. Especially that bullshit wit linkin park.

    I am just givin my opinion n his career as a rapper and how i think it has changed a lot lately. Clearly we have different opinions but that is our right.

  • Hip Hop Savior

    Jay has a thankless job…He is the face of THE HIP HOP LABEL that is probably the rap franchise equivalent to the New York Yankees. People have complained about the promotion of certain artists for what reason? Records are not sold on quality and haven’t been for some time. (Check D4L for a recent example) Meth, Red, Ghost are all legends who are not able to cross into the major commercial markets which dictate platinum albums. LL’s last album was straight trash…J Lo was a BAD LOOK…His massive ego took a loss so he blames Jay, go figure. The Roots album was a classic, groundbreaking joint, but they have never sold records, so this was nothing new…Jay has had success with Jeezy, Ne-Yo, Rihanna, and Rick Ross because those artists can cross over right now…This shit is a business and dudes need to understand, stop hating and support…be a part of a movement in Hip Hop where good shit gets purchased, not the garbage all over the radio…People have the ultimate say, after all, we have the dollars to spend…holla

  • Dr Flav

    TPAR, but what has he done as President? Roc records market value has decreased since the breakup, he had to sell out Roc gear’s operations @ a premium before it started going losing points. Sometimes when you surround yourself with great businessmen, you are bound to become at least a decent one, but dudes primary role is an artist, even back when he was on Jaz O’s and Kane’s coat tails, even during his admitted struggle with the dope game, he was a ghostwriter and it took the combined efforts of the three to make Rocafella what it was. I still stand on the belief that a SEASONED exec, not just a fresh graduate could have produced the same results if not better. It is not about pulling dude down because he is where he is, it just my right to be critical, because if I was hating, there would be no logic behind what Im saying.

  • Dr Flav

    This post delay ish is superwack! Big Ron, I mentioned that death of a dynasty theory on another blog. Jeezy had a following. Ross, was part of a joint venture with a southern label, plus he had a following too. Neyo was a successful writer already and if it was not for his marginal singing talents it could have easily went the other way. Rihanna? Lol! I expected big cosigns of the artist on some 95-98 Puffy style ish, not that dry ass corporate stuffed suit garbage, I bet you all haven’t noticed duke rocking the urban gear more now, HE KNEW CATS WAS NOT FEELING THAT! All grown men aint dressed up 24/7. HERES TO HOV GIVING US AN ALBUM FOR ENTERTAINMENT, NOT A MANUAL FOR EXECUTIVE’S MID LIFE CRISIS! Thats what I need from Jay Z, I already know how to be grown.

  • sk

    @GATE13

    OK WHAT YOU SAID IN YOUR VERY FIRST POST IS

    “THE THING WITH JAY-Z IS HE HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED IN 11 YEARS”

    THEN YOU SAY

    “I DIDN’T SAY PEOPLE DON’T CHANGE”

    WHICH IS IT? AND WHAT IS YA POINT?

    CAUSE I’M LOST, BUT YOUR LIKE SOME PEOPLES FAV RAPPERS. CONTRADICTING YOURSELF

  • R.C.

    Jay has dispointed me with kingdom come… i’m a big fan & wanted to like the album but, shit, that was diposable music, it didn’t have the same vibe as any of his previous work.
    simply put, he shouldn’t have retired.
    i also feel that the way he changed as Flav said, is wack. why break up then sell everything (the label, rocawear) to white folks who just gonna run it to the ground. that’s selfish

    Roc-a-fella wasn’t just Jay, it needed Dame & Biggs as well (they should’ve gave the masters to “reasonable doubt” ‘tho)

    as far as jay spotting talent – no way!!!
    the whole State prop (cept for beans)
    bleek, rell (who never dropped a thing) were wack & kanye was signed because of Dame.

    as far as prez well
    The Def jam artist that complaint actualy fucked them self up

    - mef: dropping an solo album (almost) every 4 years is not the way to go
    tical ’94
    tical 2 ’98
    tical 3 ’04
    & the day after ’06 but it’s weak (i do like the joint with Lauryn cuz it’s real 4 real, has nuthin to do blunts & a bunch of i’m-the-best-mc rhymes)

    - LL been wack since phenomenon (10 yrs already) any album after sold due to him doing movie & the fact that 30+ girls do love cool J but they got bills to pay so they just rather go see him in a movie.

    - red was consistent until 6 yrs ago + malpractice WAS wack (when have you heard him being diverse on his subject matters too!)

    - ghost didn’t say shit about jay & jay did put out 2 LP within 12 months.

    at the end of the day, the recording industry has to find a way to sell the music in another form other than plain old cd’s, we ain’t buyin’ it & what’s more fucked up is that artist don’t make a real profit on them sales but it’s the key to keepin their jobs & stayin’ relevant (what a bitch!!!)

  • Maddi Is Gangs

    Jay shouldnt of Kicked Dame to the curb
    Karma’s A Bitch!

  • REESE

    I WON’T GIVE TOO MUCH OF AN OPINION BECAUSE I CAN’T.

    NONE OF US KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WHAT GOES ON IN THE DEFJAM OFFICE.

    BUT BEING A RECORD EXECUTIVE IS TRUELY A THANKLESS JOB.

    IF THE ARTIST IS SUCCESSFUL THEY’RE LIKE “I DID IT!”

    IF THE ARTIST FAILS…”THEY DID IT!”(THE RECORD EXECUTIVES)

    IT’S NEVER ON THE ARTIST IF THE RECORD FAILS. LIKE I SAID IT’S A THANKLESS JOB.

    FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN OF COURSE IT LOOKS BAD.

    MANY ARTISTS MAY NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF ONE OF THEIR PEERS OVERSEEING THEIR PROJECTS.

    PLUS JAY IS A HIGH PROFILE EXECUTIVE SO OF COURSE MORE COLLUMNISTS ARE GONNA ASK MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT JAY AND ARTIST’S ARE GONNA BE MORE VOCAL ABOUT JAY THAN THEY WOULD ABOUT THE AVERAGE EXECUTIVE.

    SO YOU WOULD HEAR MORE BAD STORIES ABOUT JAY THAN ANYONE ELSE.

    THINK ABOUT IT………
    HOW MANY JOURNALIST WERE ASKING ABOUT HOW WELL LA REID, RUSSEL SIMMONS, OR ANY OTHER RECORD EXECUTIVE WERE DOING???????

    NONE.

    BUT JAY’S UNDER A MICROSCOPE.

    ALL I CAN GO BY IS WHAT LA REID SAY’S

    HE CLAIMS JAY IS GREAT AND HE LIKE’S JAY

    BUT I HONNESTLY THINK THAT HOVA MUST BE DOING AN OK JOB. IF HE WASAS BAD AS EVERYONE MAKES IT SEEM I WOULD THINK HE WOULD HAVE BEEN LET GO A LONG TIME AGO. AFTER ALL IT IS A BUSINESS.

  • Gate13

    @ SK

    You didnt understand the first post. Basically my point is that in MY OPINION, as a rapper he has changed for the worst insted of becoming even greater or maintaining his level.

    Both my posts backed up my opinion that didnt change and wont.

  • Rizzop

    Ya’ll dont see that the white man created downloadable music with the express concern of targeting a black audience? Who has been buying bootleg items more than any other people? Blacks and minorities. Who makes the less money? Blacks and minorities. The music these artists make dont HAVE to be downloaded, but nobody seems to realize it. Downloading has become something out of control by the mainstream which is why labels pay radio stations to play certain shit repeatedly….its the only way to get it out b4 “whomever” downloads the music. The worst part is, they dont blame any other record exec but Jay-Z for the “demise” of def jam, but NO RECORD COMPANIES are selling hip hop! The last album to do well was jay because he used budweiser to help appeal to a broader audience, and the nigga got it like that. lastly, would you, as a business owner put so much money into an album, you know wont sell anyways? You be bankrupt!!! if you spend 5 million on a project that only sell 800K, you’d get fired too. So B4 you blame jay-z, hes not spending HIS money, hes spending a group of white businessmen’s money who have a bottom line…..MAKE A PROFIT….all ya’ll need to know the business B4 you criticize

  • FG

    even when lyor was at def jam .from 2001 to 2003 ,jay-z was the only one holding def jam down sales wiseall the other artists including dmx and ja rule were flopping.
    b4 jay got to def jam ,sales were down ,the market share had dropped ,interscope was killing them,the label was heavily in the hole by about 200 million.lyor bounced and ran off to warner rather than deal with it .kevin ran along with him.
    jay and l.a reid came through and saved the label and since their arrival they have for the last three years had the highest market share in the music industry .they have put up the biggest sales and their label shut down the fourth quaterter last year.

    when lyor was around and niggas were flopping left and right and being jerked for their publishing ,no one was complaining.but when black a black guy is running things is when this filthy washd up niggas wanna complain.

    if its so bad then why dont they go to warner with lyor?

    BECAUCE HE DOESNT WANT THEM.WACTH JAY-Z NOT ONLY STAY WITH DEF JAM AND GET AN EVEN HIGHER POOSITION BUT S.CARTER RECORDS AND ROCAFELLA RECORDS WILL ALSO POP OFF ON DEF JAM RECORDS.JAY IS GONNA BE BIGGER THAN EVER BEFORE.

  • EReal

    The Labels as we know them are dead. The Label’s business is marketing and distribution.
    They already arent marketing shit. And look at the #’s, they arent ditributing shit either.
    Before you know it, each label will have their own website where you will have to go to d/l the music and there wont be anymore retail. Its to the point now where you can make your own shit, liscense it and upload it to ITunes and get paid. You dont NEED A LABEL ANYMORE!!!!!!
    SO who the fuck cares, I dont give a fuck about any of these lazy, rap record ruining, pieces o shit A&Rs & Label Execs.
    I hope JayZ gets fired. All he did on the Roc was fuck people over, is that why you hired JayZ at DJ? To Fuck people over?
    Fuck em. These hangers on have been eating off the artists long enough. Using them and throwing them away like trash. Now its time for the power to be in their hands, and go back to grinding.

    1 hunned.

  • dfd

    BOL.IF JAY-Z IS A BAD EXECUTIVE THEN WHO IS THE BETTER EXECUTIVE ?.WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JIMMY IOVINE At interscope ,DEF JAM IS THE BEST PERFORMING HIP HOP LABEL AND EVEN INTERSCOPE IS SLACKING.

    FOUR 0F THE LAST FIVE PLATNUM ARTIST IN THE LAST YEAR CAME FROM DEF JAM(JEEZY,LUDA ,JAY RICK ROSS)AND BEFORE THAT KANYE WITH LATE REG.

    WHO ELSE CAN CLAIM THAT THEY ARE SELLING HIP HOP ALBUMS IN THAT CAPACITY APART FROM DEF JAM?

    THE NIGGAS WHO FLOPPED WERE GONNA FLOP ANYWAY NO MATTER WHAT LABEL THEY WERE ON.

    U COMPARE JAY TO LYOR BUT FAIL TO MENTION THAT LYOR COHEN IS MUCH MOCKED IN INDURTY CIRLES TODAY FOR SINGLE HANDEDLY RUNNING WARNER MSIC INTO THE GROUND.THEIR SHARE VALUE HAS DROPPED ,THEY HAVE TAKEN TOO MANY FLOPS LAST YEAR AND TOOK A MAJOR LOSS WITH THE FLOP OF THE DIDDY ALBUM WHICH UNLIKE JAY AND DEF JAM WITH KINGDOME COME ,WARNER PAID A LOTTA MONEY TO PROMOTE.

    WANTNER IS NOW THE LOWEST RANKED MUSIC GROUP JUST BEFORE EMI ,A SERIES OF BAD DECISIONS AND SO ON SO FORTH HAS LEAD FOR CALLS FOR LYOR TO BE FIRED AND THE IRONY IS THAT ONLY THE ARRIVAL OF JAY-Z AT WARNER LIKE LYOR HAS BEEN HOPING FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS CAN SAVE HIM COS JAY-Z HAS ALWAYS BEEN HIS BANKABLE SECRET WEAPON.

    WHO HAS SOLD MORE HIP HOP RECRDS THAN DEF JAM RIGHT NOW?
    SONY?
    ATLANTIC?
    COLUMBIA?
    SONY URBAN?(REMEBER THEY WENT BANKRUPT AND GOT DIASSEMBLED?)
    WARNER BROS?
    JIVE?
    ARISTA?(THEY JUST FLOPPED WITH OUTCAST ALBUM? ON ZOMBA MUSIC GROUP)
    CAPITOL?
    VIRGIN MUSIC?(THEY TOOK SO MANY FLOPS THEY GOT CLOSED DOWN AND MERGED WITH CAPITOL ALL THEIR CEOS GOT FIRED MINUS JASON FLOM)
    EMI MUSIC GROUPS MARKET SHARE HAS DROPPED FIVE YEARS IN A ROW.
    RCA RECORDS?DO THEY EVEN PUT OUT MUSIC ANYMORE ?
    UNIVERSAL MOTOWN?WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AKON NUTHING IS MOVING OVER THERE.

    BUT U IGNORE ALL THESE THINGS AND BOUNCE OVER TO DERIDE THE ONE CEO WHO IS MAKING THINGS HAPPEN.

    REDMAN AND METHOD MAN AND THE ROOTS WILL NEVER GET A RELEASE DATE IF THEY WERE ON ANY OTHER LABEL.IF NOT FOR A CAT LIKE JAY RUNNING THE LABEL THEY WOULD HAVE been dropped off the label a long time ago.

  • smog

    echo dfd

  • dre4life

    will he ever b as good of a record president as he was an MC? so does it really matter?

  • http://www.donnyslaughter.com Sayso is Donny Slaughter

    First of all, I think Jay is being made the scapegoat of Def Jam’s demise when in all actuality, DJ has been in a downward spiral since Russ sold his share of the company, Jay was put in place as President to help rebuild a falling label, which in a time where major artist can barely sell 500k units, seems to be a full task. Now before President Carter, Jay was Def Jams top selling artist, besides LL who would rather make movies than push a pen, and understandibly so. So now that everything that was already in place before President Carter, (i.e. declining record sales, poor promotion, etc.) is now placed in his lap with him being made the scapegoat. Look how long Ghostface been on Def Jam, who’s to blame for his lack of promotion??? Jay??? And Redman, who’s to blame for his lack of promotion??? Jay??? Method Man, and several other artists, that couldn’t sell even before Jay took over as President. Now lets look at Jay’s track record, Cam’s sorry ass went platinum once he signed wit tha Roc, Beanie and Freeway did fairly well and recieved better promotion than Ghost, Meth, and Redman, and if U can git lame ass Bleek to sell, that’s a testiment in itself, but he recieved the proper promotion, even wack ass Young Guns, Jay did the best with whut he had and made Rocafella Records revered, along with all of this, Jay has outsold every rapper on Def Jam for nearly 10 years straight, niggaz ate when Jay was on the mic, now they wanna bite the hand that feeds em all becuz off silly ass posts like this one, and even out of retirement, he managed to outsell all them bammaz, now lets look at whut he did even as cd sales were declining, he bought in Jeezy and Ross, both platinum artists, signed sealed and they delivered. He ain’t a fake president, he’s a face president, place there to reap the praise or take the fall, which ever way the pendilum swung, which in this case is lookin’ bad. I think if Jay had the power to cut some of Def Jam’s lackees he would’ve, but couldn’t so LA should be happy, because he gits blamed for none of this

  • BRUTHA-MAN

    BOL….DID JAY-Z REJECT YOUR SEXUAL ADVANCES????? DAMN!

  • Fernando

    I cant believe so many people care about Jay-Z. He is the least intriguing hip-hop superstar ever. Rapping about credit cards, linen shorts, St. Thomas, yachts, & new types of Champagne……..whoopidie doo.

  • these posts aren’t racist

    how can one person (these posts are racists) have so much free time and such a pathetic vendetta against one blogger?

  • Hip Hop Savior

    Yo Fernando…check the resume kid

    Reasonable Doubt LP
    Imaginary Players
    Streets Is Watching
    You Must Love Me
    Hard Knock Life
    This Can’t Be Life
    Soon You’ll Understand
    Blueprint LP
    Guns and Roses
    Meet The Parents
    Some How Some Way
    December 4th
    Encore
    Lucifer
    Allure
    Lost One
    Do You Wanna Ride?
    30 Something
    Minority Report
    Beach Chair

    That’ off the top of the dome, not to mention countless original flows, guest appearances ..anyone else wanna add to this list? Please do..this clown needs a lesson in Hip Hop…holla

  • these posts are racist

    just peep Jay’s freestyle along side Big L from like ’94…its like 7 minutes long, no hook, no polished production, etc. and it blows away anything produced or freestyled after ’99.

    Its funny, cats say Jay is not a good businessman, exec, etc. without any real argument. The proof is in the pudding. Why did they hire Jay to head Def Jam then? How does the company benefit if he’s such a bad exec? Also, after his recent joint venture/licensing deal, etc. with iconix, he’ll be worth a good 400 million…Yeah, only an incompentent moron could accumulate such weatlh at 38. Wow…………….

  • http://defient.net Defient Ent

    “Big Egos” – Dr. Dre – Chronic 2001

  • XLPE

    YOU ARE SOME HATERS. HOV DID NOT RUN DEF JAM IN THE WHOLE. YOU PEOPLE HAVE. ALBUM SALES ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF BOOTLEGGERS AND INTERNET DOWNLOADS. SHIT, RECORD/CD STORES ARE CLOSING LEFT AND RIGHT. THERE ARE NOW ONL;Y 2 RECORD ATORES IN PHILLY. THE ARTIST THAT FLOPPED ARE MET, RED, LL, DMX, GHOST, ROOTS. CAN’T COUNT DMX BECAUSE HE NOT ON THE LABEL ANYMORE AND HE IS NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE. NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR HIM BECAUSE OF HIS ISSUES AND HE’S ON CRACK. HE SOUNDS TO OLD SCHOOL THE NEW GENERATION DOESN’T WANT TO HEAR THIS OLD MAN BARK. SWITCH UP YOUR FLOW NIGGA. METH’S LAST ALBUM ALSO FLOPPED WHILE LYOR COHEN WAS THERE AND THAT WAS OVER 6 YEARS AGO. HE WENT HOLLYWOOD WHILE HIP HOP’S SOUND CHANGED. EVEN MOST THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO LISTEN TO METH ALSO CHANGED.. HE LET THE SOUND OF HIP HOP CHANGE WITHOUT BEING PART OF IT. SO WHEN HE TRIED TO COME BACK OUT, HE WAS NO LONGER RELEVANT. YOUNG KIDS DONT WANNA HEAR METH, WHO THEY CONSIDER AN OLD HEAD. THEY WANNA HEAR TI AND LIL WAYNE AND YOUNGER MORE RELEVANT ARTIST. IF YOUR AN OLD HEAD RAPPER DON’T EXPECT T GET RADIO PLAY IN A MARKET THAT’S STURATED WITH YOUNG RAPPERS UNLESS YOUR SWAGGER IS SO UNTOUCHABLE. LOOK AT JAY Z, HE’S OLDER SELLS RECORDS CAUSE HE’S GREAT BUT HE STILL HAS A CRAZY SWAGGER AND HE KEPT HIS NAME ALIVE BY APPEARING ON ALL OF THOSE REMIXES WHILE HE WAS RETIRED. THIS KEPT A BUZZ IN THE STREET ABOUT HOV. METH AND ALL OF THOSE OLD HEAD RAPPERS WHO FLOPPED WHEN LYOR COHEN WAS THERE WERE NOT ON THEIR JOB. THEY SAT AROUND AND DID NOTHING WHILE HIP HOP WAS CHANGING. THEY DID NO MIXTAPES, REMIXES OR RADIO APPEARANCES FOR YEARS. IF SOUTHERN MUSIC IS TRASH TO YOU, THEN JUMP ON A REMIX WITH A RAPPER SUCH AS, A YOUNG JOC OR DRO AND SHOW THEM HOW TO DO IT. ALL OF THOSE ANTIQUATED ARTIST AT DEF JAM DID NONE OF THIS AND WONDER WHY THEY ARE NOT HOT. METH SHOULD HAVE RELEASED AT LEAST 5 MIXED CDS BEFORE HIS ALBUM CAME OUT TO LET THE YOUNGIMNS KNOW TTHAT HE CAN SPIT FIRE HE SHOULD HAVE ALSO PUT SOME FREESTYLES ON YOU TUBE AND MYSPACE AND OTHER MEDIAS. HE ALSO SHOULD HAVE GONE TO EVERY HIP HOP RADIO SHOW AND DID HIS THING, FREESTYLE. BUT DON’T RELEASE THAT LAURYN HILL RECORD FIRST. AND THEN LAURYN DIDNT SHOW FOR THE VIDEO. SO HE FUCKED HIS OWN PROJECT UP. HE HAD NO BUZZ IN NYC, SO HOW COULD HE HAVE A BUZZ ACROSS THE COUNTRY? IMPOSSIBLE. WITH THE STATE OF DOWNLOADING, BOOTLEGGING AND MASS NUMBERS OF RECORD STORES CLOSING BECAUSE OF THIS, HOW CAN JAY GIVE METH A BIGGER BUDGET WHEN DEF JAM MAY NOT MAKE THE MONEY BACK. IF DEF JAM SPENDS A MILL ON A VIDEO AND A MILL ON PR AND ANOTHER MIL ON THE 2ND VIDEO. HOW CAN THEY EXPECT TO RECOUP WHEN RECORD SALES HAVE DECLINED 21%. DON’T BLAME HOV, RECORD SALES HAVE DECLINED AT EVERY LABEL. LOOK AT THE MONEY PUFF SPENT AND HE’S NOT PLAT NOR HAS HE RECOUPED THAT PR MONEY. DEF JAM CAN NOT AFFORD TO TAKE SO MANY LOSSES. THEY ALREADY KNOW THE OUTCOME FROM STUDYING THE MARKET. EVERY JOC THAT BLAMMED HOV FOR NOT PROMOTING METH’S ALBUM KNOWS ABOUT METH’S ALBUM, YET THAT HAVE NOT ADDED ANY SONGS TO THE ROTATION. YET, I HEAR LIP GLOSS 20 TIME A DAY. ALL THE JOCS THAT WANNA BLAME HOV, WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING NY SONGS OFF THE ALBUM? AND THIS SAME SITUATION GOES TO ALL THE REST OF THE ARTIST THAT ARE MADE AT DEF JAM. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT ALL OF THE ARTIST THAT HOV HAS SIGNES HAVE GONE PLATINUM. THE ONLY ONES THAT DIDN’T WERE THE WASHEDUP OLD HEADS. NOT PUTTING AN AGE ON RAPPERS, BUT YOUR SWAGGER IS IMPORTANT ND SOME OF THEM LOST THEIR SWAGGER.

    DFD YOU ARE SO ON POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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