Whatever, whatever

The Toronto Star ran an interview with Joss Stone yesterday in which she responded to producer Dallas Austin’s nonsense about both her and Christina Aguilera putting out in exchange for beats. “He’s just stupid, whatever,” Stone replied, when asked about the controversy. “It’s whatever, whatever. Honestly, I don’t know him. I don’t even know what he looks like.” Her message to him was simple: “Take a week off. You’re in a bad mood. I do hope someone will give him a hug.” The producer has, of course, turned around and publicly apologized to both of them. Austin told reporters his outburst was “purely an act of retaliation” and he shouldn’t let people push him “to the limit.”

What a jackass. All Austin accomplished with his comments was to make himself look like a bitter man. Obviously these women didn’t offer him sexual favors, or solicit production work, because if they had he wouldn’t be feeling the need to lash out so recklessly. My guess is that one or both of them spurned his advances at some point, and his ego got bruised. Maybe he’s that guy in the club that hollers at you and then gets mad and calls you a bitch when you’re not interested. Sour grape syndrome.

I don’t believe for a second that Aguilera or Stone is trading sexual favors for production services. Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if either of them had a thing with one of their producers at one point. And so what if they did? If a female artist wants to get down with their producer, who the eff cares? People in the music industry hook up with other people in the industry all the time.

The bigger issue here (you knew this was coming) is the retarded double standard in the music industry in general, and hip-hop in particular. This whole incident just reeks of the hypocrisy. Male artists run wild 24/7, pulling chicks in the club, hooking up with groupies backstage, and even pushing up on random female reporters if they find themselves without companionship for five minutes. They mess with their female agents, publicists, assistants, record label reps, and anyone else who happens to cross their path. But let a woman artist have herself a little fling and she’s automatically scandalous. People want female artists to look crazy sexy, but they don’t want them to have a sex life. The whole Madonna/whore complex is seriously played out. Whatever, whatever.

  • Miss J

    It’d be more believable if someone leaked that females of lesser talent fucked for production.

  • SMASHGORDON

    TARA I REALLY LIKE YOUR COMMENTS

    BUT ..THAT’S THE PROBLEM WITH WOMEN, YA’LL WANNA DO EVERYTHING MEN DO AND STILL WANNA HAVE THE RESPECT OF A WOMEN..IT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN ..IT GOES BACK TO WHAT YOUR MOM SAID WHEN YOU WERE A KID “IF YOUR FRIENDS JUMP OFF A BRIDGE ARE YOU?” SO WHAT DOES A WOMAN EXPECT TO GAIN BY SLEEPING AROUND EXCEPT BEING LABELED A WHORE? HAS THE WOMEN RIGHTS MOVEMENT MADE YA’LL WANNA CATCH US ON THE DOG SCALE (CUS YA’LL ARE ALMOST THERE)? HOW CAN WE TREAT WOMEN LIKE QUEENS IF AND PUT YA’LL ON A PEDESTAL IF YA’LL WANT TO SQUALOR IN THE MUD WITH US?..IT’S JUST CRAZY…I KNOW SO MANY WOMEN WHO DO SLUTTY THINGS THEN TURN RIGHT AROUND AND HAVE THE AUDACITY TO WANNA BE TREATED LIKE THEN WOMEN WHO DONT..IT’S JUST NOT HAPPENING ..AND IT’S REALLY COMMON SENSE BUT THE NEW Y2K FEMALE SEES NO HONOR IN KEEPIN HER LEGS CLOSED, THEN YOU WONDER WHY EVERY RAP SONG A DUDE IS TALKING ABOUT SMASHING SOME FREAKY CHICK…WELL NOW YOU KNOW WHY? YA’LL THREW YOUR FRIGGIN MORALS OUT THE WINDOW! MAN ANDRE 3000 SAID IT BEST ,PRETTY SOON WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO A MUSEUM TO SEE WHAT A REAL LADY LOOKS LIKE….AT SOME POINT WOMEN ARE GONNA HAVE TO STOP TRYING TO BE LIKE MEN ,YA’LL NOT BUILT LIKE THAT …PERIOD (NO PUN INTENDED)

  • http://www.unkut.com Robbie

    ““He’s just stupid, whatever. It’s whatever, whatever.”

    What an articulate young lady.

  • http://www.myspace.com/chronikill ROXONE

    ^^ I was about to say the same thing about her well thought out comments. I mean, come on ma…

    I’m more curious when Joss Stone went from looking like a virginal white girl to a slutted out puerto rican chick.. Marketing is a bitch, huh?

  • Were Read 2 Def

    Tara,

    Do u listen 2 Devin The Dude?

  • Bump

    what the hell are you talking about. Those hoes obviously fuck for tracks.

  • http://www.myspace.com/pr0blematik P-Matik

    Dallas might be effed up for this one but he prolly ain’t totally far off neither.

    Also, how do you explain that pic of Joss and Rafael Saadiq?? I also read about how Christina loves to get freaky. She was talking about with her husband but still.

    Either way, I love them both though and I support them no matter what they do. If you wanna get your creep on, do it. It’s your life. Keep it clean.

  • http://naturalbodilyfunction.blogspot.com/ kayos

    Is it really unheard of for a woman to have sex for something she wants? This wouldnt be the 1st time a woman put out 2 get ahead….
    WHO CARES

  • Industry Insider

    The producer has, of course, turned around and publicly apologized to both of them. Austin told reporters his outburst was “purely an act of retaliation” and he shouldn’t let people push him “to the limit.”
    DID HE SAY WHAT HE SAID WAS NOT TRUE?

    What a jackass. All Austin accomplished with his comments was to make himself look like a bitter man. Obviously these women didn’t offer him sexual favors, or solicit production work, because if they had he wouldn’t be feeling the need to lash out so recklessly.
    OBVIOUSLY? WHAT FACT’S DO YOU BASE THIS COMMENT ON? LASH OUT SO RECKLESSLY? SO I GUESS DUDES YOU’VE GIVEN YA PUSSY UP TO HAVE NEVER LASHED OUT AT YOU? THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE RIGHT? GTFOH

    I don’t believe for a second that Aguilera or Stone is trading sexual favors for production services. Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if either of them had a thing with one of their producers at one point.
    ONCE AGAIN, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING? AND FOR WHAT REASONS THEY’RE DOING IT? BUT YOU ADMIT THEY WERE PROBOBLY FUCKIN (HAD A THING) WITH THEIR PRODUCERS, I DON’T THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

    The bigger issue here (you knew this was coming) is the retarded double standard in the music industry in general, and hip-hop in particular
    YEAH I KNEW THIS WAS COMING, THE “IT’S HIP-HOPS FAULT” PART OF THE BLOG, BUT SINCE X-TINA NOR STONE NOR AUSTIN IS A HIP-HOP ARTIST WHAT IS THE CONNECTION?

    They mess with their female agents, publicists, assistants, record label reps, and anyone else who happens to cross their path. But let a woman artist have herself a little fling and she’s automatically scandalous.
    AUTOMATICALLY SCANDALOUS – NO
    AUTOMATICALLY HYPOCRITICAL – YES
    FEMALES WANNA AS SOON AS THEY WIPE THE NUT OFF THEY FACE ACT LIKE THEY INNOCENT, DAMM NEAR EVERY RAPPER YOU HEAR TALKS ABOUT FUCKIN DIFFERENT BROADS THEY DON’T HIDE IT, YOU FEMALES WANNA HIDE IT AND THEREFORE YOU’VE CREATED THE DOUBLE STANDARD NOT MEN, MEN WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE SLUTS AND FREAKS ARE UPFRONT IT WOULD MAKE SHIT A WHOLE LOT EASIER. HEY TARA WHY DON’T YOU START THIS NEW FEMINIST MOVEMENT?

    I CAN ALREADY HEAR YA “WHATEVER, WHATEVER”

    Look ma stay in ya lane, you the “white girl” perspective on hip-hop right? give me ya thought’s on Redman new album or something or ask him about this shit, ya opinion is unfactual and biased advocacy on behalf of ya gender.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Is the story about female artists pulling action from a club, or getting groupie love or is the story about female artists giving services to their projects’ production team. There is a difference even if it’s in Canadian dollars.

    The point that Dallas Austin was making was that producers should not trade their services for sex with dime a dozen singers. He singled out Joss Stone and Aguliera because he probably effed them both (don’t sleep, Cocaine is a helluva drug – (c)Rick James bitch).

    In order to move armchair feminism forward use an accurate comparison for a double standard. Find out if Ne-Yo paid for his production work with… uh, services.

  • Regular Joe

    Dallas told the truth and you X-Tina and Joss is mad, white girls stick together……don’t bring hip-hop into this ain’t none of these folks hip-hop this is pop music artist. Basically your argument is dripping with speculation and false innuendo to the point it can’t be taken serious.

  • Right on

    you go girl!

  • these posts are racist

    What Dallas did by making such slanderous statments is the equivalent of a white person calling a black person the “N” word in an argument. Weak minded people resort to low blow tactics/comments like this to assert their power when they feel powerless.

    A white person will use the “N” word to make a black person feel low. A male will use sexual comments like these, because society views the woman as getting “f’d” by the man. It’s sad to see a person of color using the same tactics that have been used against us for hundreds of years.

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    You know what I call a female who exchanges goods for sex?

    … a business woman

    God knew what he was doing by not making me a girl cuz i’d never have to work a day in my life. There are plenty of skanks just dying to “give it away for free” after the club or what have you, but the smart woman gets something in return.

    Ain’t nothin’ wrong wit that

  • GAMA

    dallas we don’t beleve you, you need more people.

  • SaN

    shit Billy u own this blogging shit,good comment(soon they hav to put u on the front page)

    bt seriously lets look at this: Christina(bitch went and married a producer,how did they meet?)
    Joss Stone( the red hair and that nude picture shows dats somehow she ‘has changed’ and u knw how a black stiff one changes this white chicks(no kim kadarshian aka supersta kim).
    and speaking of kim,isnt it possible she blew ray j to ‘climb the ladder of fame’?
    so Tara,i dig u feel like u hav to rep for da ladies bt u got admit and wonder if dat Austin guy is telling the truth.
    just sayin..wat do u think..
    out(ohh by the way as im from Botswana,it was cool to c us appear on XXLmag.com,bt i hope dat dyk(latifah) gets dat job cos we need our health minister in our continued struggle against AIDS)
    Out(AFRICA STAND UP)

  • NoMamesBuey

    ^ha!

  • Malik C.

    Blah blah blah, double standard bullshit. Women only want to call out and try to squash double standards when it isn’t in their favor. How many speak out against them getting every single damn thing in a divorce? None, thank you. Get over the damn double standard unless you are COMPLETELY willing to be equal with the opposite sex, race, or whatever bullshit minority you put yourself into to feel discriminated against.

    A little agitated, no disrespect but I’m not going to erase what I wrote so you can understand how I feel a little on “double standards”.

  • Fernando

    If you screw everything that walks, people will call you a whore (and rightfully so). Nobody wants to lay up with a petrie dish of STD’s. If

    If you want the respect and good perception from the world, dont be a hoe. A little fling doesnt make you a hoe, but screwing producers left and right for beats makes you nasty. A loose nasty wench.

  • FLIP

    Fuck bitches, get money!

  • FLIP

    Sounds like somebody’s been fucking for clips…

  • Crimson

    Tara, you get a shout out in this article:
    http://www.citybelt.org/citybelt/2007/03/stewpot_the_ako.html

  • thoreauly77

    i could care less if the artist wants to fuck for production. god knows i have done worse for less and i would imagine most people here have. who cares? i would say though that dallas austin releasing a slandering video right before stone’s interview was the act of a small-minded, limp-wristed little coward.

  • http://www.myspace.com/blog calmdown504

    yo my mans smashgordon was right on point man…damn dude summed it all up

    women cant be like men…then you wouldnt even be a fucking woman! a dick is an external sex organ, it nevers gets used up…pussy gets used up and worn out man…God didnt make women to fuck whoever she thinks is cute…why do you think now women (particularly black) account for like 70% of all new aids cases…yall not built for that shit so stop it

    i wouldnt even respect a chick i just fucked, smashed, got mouth out of and all that if i just knew her for some small amount of time, but best believe if she was to seduce me and I fallback, then she’ll call me gay and all types of shit………so fall back and play your posistion, if you a freak be a freak, if not chill

  • DANJA29

    Women want everything: the right to fuck their whole neighborhood, the respect usually reserved for virgins and nuns, the right to talk all day about how men ain’t shit, the right to act just like the same men they complain about when they feel like it… everything. Women get mad at shit like this because it puts them out there, and nothin’ makes a woman more upset than being put on Front Street. A woman’ll tell a dude in a minute to “be a man” and admit to his wrongdoing… but alot of them need to put the dick on for a minute and “be men” about their own shit.

  • DANJA29

    oh, and no disrespect Tara… but you DO know the first thing a woman says when she gets exposed is “whatever”, right?

  • Yoda

    …more of the feminist bullshit. You don’t believe Joss Stone and Christina Aguilera “fucked for tracks”? Why? Because you personally know them? Joss Stone never said she didn’t do it. She said, “WHATEVER”. She didn’t deny anything. Objectivity you lack, grasshopper.

  • Dr Flav

    Lol @ I dont know him, I dont know what he looks like. What a way to plead the fifth, women can be masterful liars. Joss allegedly (roffle) sexed a producer on Dallas’ production team, not Dallas. Society has labeled men as conquesters and protective providers and women as nurturers, breeders and homemakers. “We didnt land on Womens Liberation, WOMENS LIBERATION LANDED ON US!”

  • derfla the hus’las

    lol shit is crazy as if Dallas is the first to air out girls going wild for producer dick.

    next time Ta wright about the Game and vida feud I think game is lieng about vida fucking around to get exposer and fame

    not.

  • I’m Just Sayin’

    Dallas was whining because Joss moved on (from whatever their relationship was) and removed his tracks from her album. He also mentioned putting up with “Crazy” Christina’s antics to get that popstar money. That said, if any fucking did in fact take place, it was not these successful female artists “fucking for tracks.” It was Dallas Austin, unsuccessfully fucking for placements.

  • http://yoyo billblackfish

    Damn Tara Henley looks good in that pic need some beats?

  • BlackBoy

    YOU SEEM TO HAVE A LEVEL HEADED OBJECTIVE APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT YOU ARE EXTREMELY BIASED WHEN IT COMES TO FEMALE ISSUES.

    ONCE AGAIN, LIKE WITH THE PHONTE STORY YOU DO A LOT OF IRRESPONSIBLE PARAPHRASING AND GUIDING THE READER TO SEE YOUR CONCLUSION AS INDISPUTABLY RIGHT.

    but then again, I’m a man so what do I know…

  • NickeNitro

    “People in the music industry hook up with other people in the industry all the time.”

    Like that one time you got so wasted you actually hooked up with Tom Breihan? Ha, gross!

    As far as the MTV-brand women’s lib about “sexual equality” you’re trying to drop, ask yourself this: What sets the standards?

    Generally, men tend to have more respect for the woman who doesn’t sleep around than the one who does. So women tend to feel pressured to be less promiscuous if they want to attract someone.

    Conversely, women generally tend to have more respect for the man who does sleep around than the one who doesn’t. So men tend to feel pressured to be more promiscuous if they want to attract someone.

    Now, wouldn’t it seem to show more self-respect and self-esteem to prefer being with someone that hasn’t slept with half the world?

    Certainly I’m speaking in generalizations and not judging any women in particular, but sorry Tara, whatever “double standard” exists is the result of typical female insecurities. Women tend to want guys who get around because women don’t tend to respect themselves, and men tend to want girls who don’t get around because men do tend to respect themselves. And this forces everyone to adjust their behavior accordingly. It doesn’t take a genius to follow the simple logic, just a willingness to admit the truth.

    Just about every girl I’ve known that talks about this “double standard” is known for getting around, and it always comes off as an attempt at a justification or being defensive. I don’t have anything against these girls — some are my friends — I’m just less inclined to have a serious relationship with them. I’m not saying a woman should be a virgin, but there is a limit at which the number of random hook-ups or partners a girl has had makes her unattractive.

    Of course, it could theorized that this difference in self-esteem is the result of external sexist causes, but if those causes do exist, they’re obviously encountered at a much earlier stage than the music industry and hip-hop.

  • thoreauly77

    nickenitro- great points, first, but second i gotta call bullshit. peoples is peoples; sluts is sluts. spare us the dime-store psycho analysis.

  • hannah Smith

    “Obviously these women didn’t offer him sexual favor.”

    And you know this how? Because you were there, getting your voyeur on?

    You may not want to think it, but people sleeping around for beats is hardly the worst thing that goes on in the record industry.

  • My Effin’ Opinion

    Trannah,
    I’m sure sleeping around for everything is hardly the worst thing that goes on in your life as well.

  • Bang

    Women are meant to be smarter, more refined, and more respected than a male Super-Ho, who only gets props from his boys fopr bagging some rats. But I aint trying to hook up with my boys, so I’m not looking for a ho/super ho type. Yeah boy will get his props,

    but it’s not a “double standard.” It’s one for one, one for a ho, and one for a lady. You can’t do both.

    Second, I believed when I heard homeboy talk about the girls cus the stories sound familiar will anyone who’s been in contact with a ho. But, then again, he might have just replaced the names with local hood rats and other real shit that happened.

  • Pancho

    well…why women gotta act like hoes?

    it’s the women that act like hoes that make men act like playas and piomps and sh*t…

    If women can start acting like ladies…maybe less and less hate towards women will occur.

    (I doubt that will happen though…I mean….all the guys that get pussy like every day would riot if hoes started to act like ladies these days)

  • Anthony

    they did it dallas knows that and he shouldnt apologize for sayin that, it is what it is, period!!

  • london

    I saw the clip – he just looked pissed – that they got played, sounded like a whiney bitch..shit if they had been the ones getting over – as in it was just him and one of his boys fucking her – he woulda been like ohh i’ma player we got her…but she flipped it on them…he should just accept it he’s not that hot and them are the breaks.

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