Rap against fence jumpers

Every few years or so, ususally around election time, you’ll begin to hear this term “hip-hop activism” bandied about. The hip-hop generation, says the likes of Jeff Chang and Russell Simmons, can change the world, or at least swing the vote for the Democratic party. Usually, it doesn’t manage to do much of either.

Which makes sense if you think about it: If hip-hop can’t keep Pimp C from getting wet, how is it ever going to get black people to vote? That said, Russell Simmons was once a shermhead himself back in the late ’70s/early ’80s, and look at who he is today – a legend that’s not to be criticized in any way. There could be hope for hip-hop activism just yet.

Part of the problem is that hip-hop activists have never had much of an issue to rally themselves around. Even if hip-hop did manage to put a Democrat in office, it would only serve to cement ol’ Rush the Dusthead’s rep as a sort of “rainmaker” in the black community. Rush would get paid, the Democrats wouldn’t actually do shit, and we’d all be back at square one.

As far as individual issues are concerned, I know there was the thing about getting lighter sentences for crack dealers, but who would want to get behind some shit like that? It’s true that white guys who deal in coke generally receive lighter sentences, but then white guys who deal in coke arent’ known to walk around the mall fried on “ace” with an AK tucked in their fur coat.

Russell Simmons doesn’t actually want crack dealers living in his gated community, he just wants to get paid.

A coke dealer living in your neighborhood, on the other hand, might actually be convenient. If you’ve got it like that. Speaking of which, I wonder if Elliott Wilson fucks with the yay at all. He does look kinda sweaty in most photographs. I bet he does a line before he sits down to write those great editorials each month.

But I think I may I have found the perfect issue for the hip-hop activists to rally around: Illegal immigration has had a devastating effect on the black community. Hip-hop activists, if they’re really concerned with the state of the black community, should make this their signature issue.

When illegal immigrants live 15-to-a-house, it drives up rents and drives black people out of their own neighborhoods. When the Spanish-speaking children of illegal immigrants flood our schools, our children can’t hope to get a decent education. And when a black man goes up for a job against an illegal immigrant who’s willing to work for pennies on the dollar, he finds himself shit out of luck.

Weakening our nation’s drug laws so that violent PCP addicts can wave machine guns in shopping malls isn’t going to help improve our communities. If hip-hop activists want to be taken seriously, they should get behind an issue that has real potential to have a positive effect in the black community.

  • Curious

    Why do you call Jimmy Iovine “Double Fantasy”

  • Curious

    Of Topic

    Why do you Jimmy Iovine called “Double Fantasy”

  • Combat Jack

    first beyotches

  • the truth by bun b

    Who the fuck are you to sit behind you safe little cubicle and criticize who we are and what we do? For more than 20 years. Southern Artists and fans have faithfully supported any and all hip hop that was offered. We accepetced everyone on their own merits, gave evryone a fair listen, and then spoke. In light of you comments and views, it occured to me that you haven’t given near as much open mindedness to our music as we have to yours. The reasons I say yours is that it doensn’t what type of music came out, we supported it, so we in no doubt supported whatever the fuck you listen to. To think that all we know is what we do, or that we may know nothing at all is preposterous. If you’re a paying member of Soundscan, you can see that ALL MUSIC SELLS IN THE SOUTH! 5 percenter? Bought it. Backpackers? Bought it. Black power, Wu-Tang, horrorcore, need I say more? Meanwhile, after 25 years of unconditionally holdin down all forms of rap/hiphop music, as soon as we even try to join a club we bought and help build the clubhouse for, they wanna deny us access. Well guess what you Elks lodge habitatin, Masters in Augusta wanna-be, finger-pointin behind the bushes, throwin a rock and runnin ass nigga, I just thought I’d tell you to take whatever preconcieved notions you have built up in your air and watertight cranium AND STICK IT IN YO PUSSY! I guarentee you the TRUE FANS AND MAKERS OF HIP HOP JUST MIGHT DIFFER WITH YOU! I know this because I am friends with Cool Herc, Grandmaster Caz, Melle Mel, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and other extremely well known originators and creators of this artform. The problem now is the act of causing division and dissention amongst the fans by people whom are not in the know. You see, YOU may not like Laffy Taffy or DFB or whoever, and you know what, that’s your GOD-given right. Hate all you want on the South, Southern rappers, or just Pimp C, since you brought him up. IT STILL WONT HELP WHOEVER YOU LIKE SELL SHIT! Talib Kweli: close friend of UGK. De La Soul: close friends of UGK. Kanye West, Common, Dead Prez, close firends of UGK. Jam Master Jay, 2 Pac, Biggie Smalls: ALL FUCKING FANS OF UGK, and I dont say this from second hand conversation. These people told me this from their own mouths, yet you would have people believe otherwise. They could learn to be openminded about the music the listened and the regions the music was popular in, so it should come at no surprise these people went further thatn the average artists. Whatever alterior motive you may have is trying to bring down the Southern rise, it won’t work. God kills hate with love. Oh yeah, by the way, as far as your comments on my brother and his reason for incarceration, he pulled a gun on a group of people thrreatening him in a mall. Only the girl went back and told the police, that’s why it seems as if it was between only him and the girl. The problem is, misinformed people give misinformation and cause misfortune to the learing. I hate to call this the blind leading the blind, because by the look of your commment posts, they know what’s up. So instead of just going to New York, screaming and ranting in White Nigga’s office, I came to see you on your turf, because I’m no coward. I’m willing to come in your yard: care to come in mine? Right a rhyme, let;s see what you have the hip-hop community musically. Oh and make sure it’s Grammy-nominated when you do it, because mine was. And while you’re at it ask Nas, Jay-Z, Papoose, Camron,, Russell Simmons, 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Chino XL, Self Scientific, Cyrpess ill, Snoop Dogg, Ludacris or anybody else in this industry you like if Pimp C is wack. I bet they bark on you louder than I want to. God forbid you’re in the wrong place and the wrong time like Pimp and have to spend 4 years of your life behind bars. You’re a black man, so fuck how educated and well read you are. You’ll ride just like Pimp, and you’ll be sorry about it, just like Pimp. The only difference: nobody’s gonna wear a fuckin t-shirt with yo face on it. Leave the South alone, becausse we’re just tryin to eat. Quit bloggin and write a book if you got more goin on besides gossip and shootin slugs. Because after blogging has come and gone, and XXL is no longer on stands or online(which I would hate to see), UGK and our musical legacy will survive. Will your triflin rants sustain?

  • luis

    Unfortunately, you miss the whole point completely. Instead of looking targeting your angst against the real issues at hand (NAFTA, and real economic bargaining between both the US/Mexico/Central American to bring companies and FAIR wages to drive back immigration, drug proliferation supported – and yes, I do believe this – by the powers that be, and legislation that undercuts school funding by yes, the powers that be, etc.) you simply decide to hit the people who are at the frontlines of the issue at hand. Hiphop should rally for issues of justice around fair education, fair housing, and the like. This isn’t caused by “illegal” (the correct term is undocumented – nobody is really fuckin’ illegal – everyone in this country – except for Native Americans – are fuckin’ ancesotrs or actual immigrants – I’m sure you know this but you seem to want to forget history as most do) immigrants. Migrants come here because situations in countries in Mexico are class divided into disaster – the rich have plenty, the poor have nothing that would pale in comparison of anything else in this country believe me). That’s what Hiphop should center politically around. Instead of spewing issues of separation, undocumented (and documented) and the African-American community are in the same boat of needing an infusion of change to better our livelihoods. We need to fight together on this because if we don’t – believe me – the powers that be know that fighting such issues separately makes it alot harder to have what we all demand – economic/social equality. Have a good day. (Damn, I know you just write to piss people off and it worked today – good job!). Peace.

    Luis

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >Why do you call Jimmy Iovine “Double Fantasy”

    Iovine either produced John Lennon’s Double Fantasy or was his manager at the time. I can’t remember.

    Check VH1′s “John Lennon: Behind the Music.”

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    Luis

    Since you’re so adamant about people getting paid a fair wage, at what point do people actually stand up and demand a fair wage?

    If you support illegal (i.e. against the law) immigration, that’s a tacit approval of what basically amounts to corporate slavery.

  • BIG ED FROM NY

    my family came to this country LEGALLY for something better and i hate to admitt it but bol is right with
    “If you support illegal (i.e. against the law) immigration, that’s a tacit approval of what basically amounts to corporate slavery.”
    some people who are here illegally are treated like slaves!!! and if u think that standing up for your people who break the laws of this great country and travel across the border just to be treated like animals is right then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM…people who are in this country illegally cost working people like me money!!!! funding health care for someone who isnt supposed to be here anyway! i know it sounds mean but there is a legal way to enter this land and protection for those who do it right but i dont see why i have to fund these things…look at it like a job, if someone was stealing from the company they would get FIRED!!!

  • gerv

    Bun B all I can do is co-sign because you gave him the business and the working hours.I had my own comment but fuck it after reading that.And I’m not from the south but I got to give it to him.Byron talks like he just hates UGK for some reason.

  • http://www.qsviews.com Q

    The issue that is at hand is not about making illegal immigration legal, but about whether making illegal immigration a felony, which is extreme. that’s what all the hub-bub is about…

    I don’t think making it a felony really solves anything… they just need to make it cheaper and easier for folks to get their green cards and citizenship… that will stop illegal immigration..

    I still think there will be 15 people living in one bedroom apartments though – legal or illegal

  • jewsa dummy

    Luis is such a undermining spic. Get outta here with that “undocumented” bullshit, they are here against the law hence illegal. Big Ed from NY gets it, why the hell is our tax payers dollars going to fools that don’t belong here anyway. Whitey needs to make it a felony for these Mexicants, mine the border, set up trip wires or something, just do something. As far as Mexicans wanting the entire Southwest back, whats the fuckin point? They just going to jump the border to Oregon, these spics cant even take care of their own country why bother letting them turn good land into more filth like T.J.

  • Doc Flav

    You Have A Clever Way Of Showing Disrespect And Kissing Ass Simultaneously. What Does Pimp C Have To Do With This Topic? Lol Your Readership Throws Around Slurrs Like Spic, Coon, Wigger Ect. Are You A Conservative Or Self Hating. One I Can Garner Respect For, The Other I Pity.

  • bxconnect

    damn bol you have a serious hard on for pimp c.you remind me of mr. irreverent but he ws a bit more clever with his shit.seriously you need to get of pimp c nuts.not a good look.not a good look at all.

  • Blood Hound aka Slum Lord

    You people are forgeting that this country was built on the backs of imagrants, the white man came from Europe which makes him an imagrant. The black man came from africa which makes him an imagrant…

    Wasn’t it Abe Lincoln that said bring me your weak hunger and tired or some shit like that?

  • luis

    What’s up y’all

    In response to Bol….I actually don’t support “illegal immigration”…I support amnesty for people that have come to this country. People come to this country, for the most part (and I’m bunching up Latin American countries in this way, so if I offend anyone, my apologies)due to economic strife in their country. As it is, most Latin American countries were stripped of their economic independence by two main causes: economic stranglehold via corporate entities (central american due to banana/fruit exportations, Mexico, in general via NAFTA and dire lack of middle class component within the economy). The strife within Latin America has much to do with U.S. policy toward these countries. For me to assume a countries poverty is separate from what occurs here is absurd. One’s history is never particularly documented or mentioned in current arguments over immigration. Big Ed, I commend your comments too. I understand undocumented immigrants due bring pressures within certain sectors but realistically, they are an important economic (i would argue even a social) entity that would be hard to replace if removed (btw, the “illegal” numbers are more than 12 million but that’s another story…).

    Fair wages should be discussed within circles that include Unions, migrant groups, governmental agencies, and local officials…in other words all circles. Very difficult due argue due to the very nature of our ecnomic conditioning in this country but dialogue can be accomplished that has not already.

    Jewsa Dummy…I have nothing to say to you but you are one ignorant asshole. You have a right to your opinion but by you calling me out in such a way really makes you appear as a “dummy”. Fuck you.

    Have a good weekend everyone. Peace.

    Luis

  • Doc Flav

    I Believe People Over Estimate The Power Of Thier So Called “Tax Dollars,” If You Are Not Making @ Least 70 K, You Really Not Kicking Back Nothing, Plus Tax Laws Under Bush Are More Beneficial To The Wealthy. Dont Be Fooled The Lower Wage Earners Are Paying More Tax For Programs That Benefit Them And Thier Own. The Wealthiest Aint Getting Hurt No Where As Bad Tax Wise As The Poor.

  • http://www.unkut.com Robbie

    “Speaking of which, I wonder if Elliott Wilson fucks with the yay at all. He does look kinda sweaty in most photographs. I bet he does a line before he sits down to write those great editorials each month.”

    Hangin’ with Jimmy Iovine has it’s advantages.

  • Condi Rice

    Why do a lot of illegal immigrants rally around the claim that we all came from somewhere else and are therefore immigrants. Europeans came and raped the native americans (which is a rant I’ll save for some other time). Africans were stolen or sold into slavery, nevertheless they came here against their will and their lives were certainly harder than today’s illegal immigrants. You can jump on the colonial bandwagon and say that in America and a few other places colonization worked and made this land a superpower (America is full if ignorant racist and other problems , but I sure as hell ain’t going back to Africa unless I’m really fuckin’ rich). Everyone champions the immigrants that came and built this country in the 19th and early 20th century, but they came legally through Ellis Island etc. Whether you are hispanic and jumped a fence/river, or Asian and snuck over in a cargo container or european and overstay your visa(a large number of illegal immigrants are europeans who over stay there tourism visas)you’re still here illegally. I’m sure there are countless socio-economic factors why people want to come to this counter and why it’s own citizens take it for granted, but through the luck/curse of birth some people are born citizens, some take the efforts to become citizens, and some just assume they are above the law b/c they’re willing to do jobs that others won’t do. Because I can’t think of any good ones, what are the compelling reasons that “undocumented” workers don’t go through the proper channels? Politcal persecution is a good reason, but Communist China and Cuba or socialist South America aren’t snatching people in the night like the Nazi’s or Stalin (I could be mistaken). If all these illegal aliens seek only a better economic future, why not get green cards, learn enough english to make basic communication easy, learn some US history and try to become citizens. I don’t make 70K so my tax dollars may not help much, but if I don’t pay taxes for 5+ years w/o getting caught I don’t think Uncle Sam is gonna grant me amnesty or let me pay back only a small portion of back taxes. I don’t think amnesty is the right choice b/c you’re rewarding illegal and therefore criminal behavior. Making it a felony might work, but we run the risk of further overcrowding prisons and further draining tax resources. I think we need to tighten the entire border and make illegal immigration a severely punished crime while at the same time making it easier to become a citizen like Q said. Sure they’ll still live 15 to an apartment but at least the gov’t can run background checks and collect some tax revenue. I want a manicured lawn, fresh picked produce, and a house built for $200 labor like the next man, but I’d rather cut illegal immigration, force higher wages and give jose, tyrone, xiang, gavin and billy-ray equal opportunity to do the hard-ass job I was self-motivated and/or lucky enough not to do myself

  • micguevara

    Very corny,Hip Hop ralleyt against illegal immagrints?and stand with the people who hate hip hop?you got to be kidding me! Hip Hop will always be left wing and stand for the People,maybe canceling NAFTA would be a start.

  • Dshizzle

    my boy truth lit u up

  • BIG ED FROM NY

    whoa whoa whoa tthere jewsa dummy u really didnt understand my point…u totally didnt get it and i didnt use anywords like the ones u used and for that ur a dick!!! and LUIS thanx for that i think that there should be some way to solve this “problem” without having to put people in jail for trying to make a living and without hurting the working mans pockets…really i dont see that happing that who ever does is blind to the fact that you still have racists out here who just want everybody out of this country…but really imagine getting rid of every illegal in this country then who is gonna trim your hedges, cook your breakfast, dry your car after a carwash, at a wadge lower then the allowed limit!!! this country still runs on slave labor and thats how the white man and this country became the richest and most powerfull in the world!!!! SLAVE LABOR!!!!!

  • Mikey Ess AKA SukedowN

    Condi, though you sound informed and proper, your logic is slightly flawed and your facts are wrong.

    “Europeans came and raped the native americans”

    All the European countries who launched maritime expeditions to the Americas (North, South, and Meixico) sent 90% or more men, and they raped women in each territory the entered.

    “Africans were stolen or sold into slavery, nevertheless they came here against their will”

    True, but let’s not imply the blame was all on the European Americans. Affluent Africans sold their own into slavery, and worked with the Poruguese setting up their own slave trading posts.

    “Everyone champions the immigrants that came and built this country in the 19th and early 20th century”

    Who are these people? When has this championing occured?

    “…or european and overstay your visa(a large number of illegal immigrants are europeans who over stay there tourism visas)”

    Less than 5% of U.S. undocumented immigrants are European. Check the facts first.

    “Because I can’t think of any good ones, what are the compelling reasons that “undocumented” workers don’t go through the proper channels?”

    First, there is the desparation of living in a country with no oppurtunity to make a living wage, and being unable to support your family. Your children are starving, your mother is ill and can’t receive medication, occurences like these that are commonplace in Mexico we take for granted in America. Im NOT saying that some don’t live in poverty in America, but the level poverty in America is not nearly as severe as in other poor countries.

    “If all these illegal aliens seek only a better economic future, why not get green cards, learn enough english to make basic communication easy, learn some US history and try to become citizens.”

    Again, it can take years to complete this process. And starving children living filthy don’t have years to wait.
    ————————————
    I respect your view, but you are wrong.

    What about U.S. business owners who attract Mexicans to immigrate by offering them jobs, sending buses to them for transportation to jobsites, and encouraging this?

    Why don’t we focus on those Americans who encourage this trend? Currently, there are very lenient penalties for enabling this mobile workforce to live and work in America.

    Maybe it would be too easy to find a real solution that helps all sides to this problem.

  • Che

    hahaha!! I saw sum shit on this oaf’s website and i had to repost the comment! maximum respect to whoever T-man is!

    >Aaaaay, this dude needs an education. Stop eating cheetos all day in front of your computer and get a real job. You know, doing real work? Maybe then you would respect people who labor. If it weren’t for cheap labor handling all aspects of infrastructure, manually feeding your ass and making your products, you wouldn’t be able to make money sitting at home writing little ‘pieces’ about your cute little thoughts. You’d be in a factory somewhere or at least getting taxed. Do you even pay taxes for your blog? You don’t even have a real job to be talking about the workforce in general, homie.

    rapist oaf man, you just got ethered!!

  • Che

    you’re parents must be so ashamed of you. you call yourself bol for fuck’s sake. sounds like it should be a dog’s name.

  • http://source.com one

    damn i have to agree with bol and jewsa. this problem does fuck shit up 4 us black folks.they move in are hoods and bring thier gang problems.
    they do live too many to a house.and youre damn right i dont want to pay taxes 4 anyone else or thier damn kids.it just isnt fair how if my son gets sick or hurt that we may have to wait in line at the hospital because of some criminal or thier kid is in front of us.that shit is 4 the birds.
    our schools are all over run i know this because i work for the los angeles unified school district.i see it every day.damn near 40 kids in one class.that shit is wrong.some schools even have to resort to setting up classes in the gym.how are our legal children supposed to learn anything.
    i’d also like to say that this is america and the language here is english so why should employers be making it manditory for aplicants to speek spanish or be bilingual.that shit is also wrong.these people are criminals that have broken the law. why should they be allowed the same rights as the legal citizens?what makes them think that they should get drivers licenses?u people need to shut up cause you know that us real americans cant just sneak over to mexico and get a bunch of free shit
    at the mexicans expence.as far as people doing the jobs that immigrants do,dont under estimate the working men and women of america.i personaly know at least 10 hard woking legal people that need and want to work,and dont care what kind of job it is as long as they can feed thier families.
    immigration should be made a felon it’s as simple as that!and lastly you
    immigrants that have been do’n all the protesting need to wake the fuck up.you people are fighting because you want to be americans so why the fuck do yall keep waving the damn mexican flag around like mexico is better?if you truly wish to be excepted as americans then shouldnt you people be waving american flags to show that you want to be here?
    this problem needs to be handled.
    signed one pissed of black man!!!!!

  • http://source.com one

    one more thing so the fuck what if we might not pay a lot of taxes.because we still pay taxes just the same.and thats money i could have in my pocket.and regardless of how much it is i still earned it legally.so fuck off!!!!!!!

  • Mikey Ess AKA SukedowN

    No comment.

  • BYRON GUMBEL

    YAY BOL! CALL ME SNOOKUMS!

  • DAVID DUKE

    YOU REMIND ME OF CLAYTON BIGSBY.

  • BYRON GUMBEL

    BOL, WHY YOU DELETING MY COMMENTS BABYGIRL?

  • KING FUCKERY

    FUCK XXL. FUCK BYRON. FUCK HIS IGNORANT SUPPORTERS.

    “Can’t take your slogans no more,
    can’t take your slogans no more,
    can’t take your slogans no more,
    can’t take your slogans no more.

    Wipe out the paintings of slogans
    all over the streets
    confusing the people
    while your asphalt burns our tired feet.
    I see borders and barriers,
    segregation, demonstration and riots,
    a-sufferation of the refugees,
    oh-oh, when, when will we be free?”

    THE GREATEST

  • Blood Hound aka Slum Lord

    I thought this was the land of the free…

  • bigger font

    XXL needs to make the damn font bigger, how can asians read this shit when the font is like size 3.

  • ElTopo

    In my profession I know quite a few apartment owners, who specialize in “low-income housing” (some may call them slum-lords). Part of the reason that landlords prefer illegals living 15 to a house as opposed to a black single mother with 5 kids and her section 8 check: They know that the crime problem will be lower in their building and the neighborhood. They know that they’ll get paid on time, and their units will be in better shape when they turnover (which is less often). They know they’ll get less complaints about maintenance, because shit gets fucked up less often.

    Yes this is anectodal, but these are the reasons you’re seeing latinos take over formerly Black neighborhoods in Northern and Southern California, and probably other areas.

  • http://www.diseducation.com Vasco
  • the white man

    can we stop with all this “white man” shit? yes, i know the “white man” fucked over millions of people, but that was way long ago. yes, i know racism still exists (i’m not ignorant), but there is also racism towards the “white man”. can’t we all just get along?

  • BIG ED FROM NY

    “but there is also racism towards the “white man”. can’t we all just get along?” Ipersonally dont think so cause there is still so much anamosity towards white people because of what hites back in the day did…i for one dont care who you what color creed sexual orination birth place o bubble gum flavor u are…i just want freedom

  • BIG ED FROM NY

    o yeah…
    once people of color start feeling that the people who control america are not in to it because of color then i think we all can get along…look at the katrina thing…bush is a bigot sonovawhore!!! and like one of my favorite rap groups ” I SWEAR ON THE PRESIDENTS GRAVE, IM SICK OF LIVING IN THIS BULLSHIT”

  • Doc Flav

    Lol @ Folks Blaming Mexican Immigrants For America’s Decades Of Problems. Lol @ That Dude Who Tried To Blame Africans For American Slavery Like Africans Knew The Type Of Genocide That Was To Come, Read The History Behind It Dont Just Quote Folks Who Have An Agenda And Want To Save Face, Or Is That Your Goal?

    • whitemanmarcheson

      You read the history moron. First of all stop thinking of Africa as Africa thats a white man invention. Africa is and was just a large complex landscap with many many diffrent societies and diverse peoples. Some who hated and enslaved one another. They saw European settlers and firearms as a main way to gain more land and territory (remeber for the vast majority of the slave trade Europeans rarely ventured inland in africa.) They used European weapons to raid territory then sell those who they captured to the Europeans at various port cities. Same thing with you retards who are black muslims. The muslims enslaved black people way before and did not stop until way after(there is still tons of slavery in the arab world). This idea that it is all the evil white man is a fairy tale. It’s called greed and ruthless capitalism with rich powerful people on all sides getting richer and turning the poor and ignorant against each other.

  • Doc Flav

    Lol @ Blacks And Mexican Immigrants Going Against Each Other When We Both Aint Really Got Shit. Lol @ The Fact That If Both Groups Unified With Native Americans, It Would Be A Whole Other Race. Who Could We Put On Reservations? Hint Thier Ancestors Put Up On Them First. Viva La Revolution! Lol @ My Dreaming Ass.

  • Soto

    Dear Editor,
    I hope you realize that this article has contributed to something we call RACISM and SEPARATISM. The community you cater to have been victims of such injustices. The fight that the civil rights leaders proclaimed with confidene was equality for ALL. It’s unfortunate that when people feel they are inferior to others because of race, they do all they can to portray them in a negative image. This article puts your magazine to shame. I highly suggest that you are careful next time you want to embody racism because I can tell you that this information has been e-mailed to many people for I received the link of this through a friend. OH YEAH, REGGEATON ARTISTS ARE MAINLY PUERTO RICANS WHICH MEANS THEY ARE U.S. CITIZENS NOT “ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS”. AND LATINOS ARE THE SECOND RACIAL GROUP THAT CONTRIBUTE TO HIP-HOP. STOP WITH THE IGNORANCE!!!!!!!

  • point08

    I wonder why the bullseye is being missed? you are wondering about weakening drug laws and being racist toward the latino community, when hip hop activism should be more focused about empowering voices that aren’t being heard. The only thing being turned up and listened to are songs that embody violence and drug dealing. the youth has and is being steered in the wrong the direction. most of the music has kids worrying about how their air force ones are scuffed up and not how their grades are. they worry about the new “ho” they got with, they dont worry how they are degrading their women. latinos are being criticized left and right when this country was founded on immigration, ie pilgrims and black slaves. enlighten kids and help support the new age civil rights movement!!! screaming free pimp c and when c is being pimped to promote a negative messages, shit dont make sense!

  • K.B.

    AY….Read this:

    >>Luis Says:

    April 7th, 2006 at 10:50 am
    Unfortunately, you miss the whole point completely. Instead of looking targeting your angst against the real issues at hand (NAFTA, and real economic bargaining between both the US/Mexico/Central American to bring companies and FAIR wages to drive back immigration, drug proliferation supported – and yes, I do believe this – by the powers that be, and legislation that undercuts school funding by yes, the powers that be, etc.) you simply decide to hit the people who are at the frontlines of the issue at hand. Hiphop should rally for issues of justice around fair education, fair housing, and the like. This isn’t caused by “illegal” (the correct term is undocumented – nobody is really fuckin’ illegal – everyone in this country – except for Native Americans – are fuckin’ ancesotrs or actual immigrants – I’m sure you know this but you seem to want to forget history as most do) immigrants. Migrants come here because situations in countries in Mexico are class divided into disaster – the rich have plenty, the poor have nothing that would pale in comparison of anything else in this country believe me). That’s what Hiphop should center politically around. Instead of spewing issues of separation, undocumented (and documented) and the African-American community are in the same boat of needing an infusion of change to better our livelihoods. We need to fight together on this because if we don’t – believe me – the powers that be know that fighting such issues separately makes it alot harder to have what we all demand – economic/social equality. Have a good day. (Damn, I know you just write to piss people off and it worked today – good job!). Peace.

    Luis

    …….nuff said!

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  • Belize

    idiot spanish immigrants can be black too, so ur bring down ur own race, lAMEEEE ASSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/legacyhiphop Belize

    lame ass, immigrants can be black too, so ur briging down ur own race..u fukin lame!!!!!!!!!!

  • DLR2

    I would like to know why illegal immigration IS NOT the key issue for blacks. As a white, who very much wants to see blacks do better in this country, I don’t understand why this isn’t the issue for the black community. It’s not about the poor people who are coming here, I feel for them, but I feel for the black community much more. I want the black community to be in much better condition before we open the gates.

    Could someone clue me in on why this is?

    D2

  • Cesar

    im sorry but to all you idiots out there, you should really check your records. this year more than 100 million dollars went into social security and medicare from undocumented workers that didnt file there taxes. WE get paid checks the samewat you do and we also get out taxes detucted. taxes that kepp yall on the lonestar card!. they just came out with a study, that no big news network wants to show, that for this year the undocumented paid taxes helped the social security be %10 less in debt. oh and dont get me started on ” the mexicans take the blacks jobs” YALL DONT DO THEM. Over the last 3 years heavy storms and hurricanes that have been hitting the nation, i have rebuild thousands of roofs, and i may add, get paid cash too, jajajajajaja. Now i drive a new jeep cherokee with a hemi on 22′s, jajajajajajajaja. ohh and keep giving me that cash. well lets not get rude but i mean should you rap activist be focusing on stuff like limiting yall jail sentences, cause i mean you get rid of us and yall have no money to support your nation of welfare. well ok i apologize to anyone i might offend but people like yall piss me off. shute i earn 1,000 a week working in roofing, and hurricanes dont look like they are going to stop coming, unless the white people stop buying suv’s. But see you dont touch on that issue, no americans only talk about what is convenient to them. no i mean for real, who do you think pays for your lonestar card, who do you think follows your trends of music, and clothes, and accesories of cars. I mean i dont know but i dont see allot of white people with a pimped out ride, in fact you see a mexican pimped out before anyone. and you can ask the people in studewood, texas who had the first 22′s in houston biatches back in 01, my brother, thats who. and you can ask them who had the first pimped out jeep in houston, i tell you what it wasnt dub, it was me. Well i mean im just trying to make a point that the economy needs us and if you fight for an amnesty your just helping the government cover its money issues. they want a 3 to 6 month permit program so that they can pay mexicans minimum wage and make them pay taxes to fix the social security and i dont think this plan benefits the welfare for a better pay raise foundation, does it? no i dont think so. Dont forget where america gets it money people, im serious really think about it. i mean you get rid of us and whos gonna finish fixing new orleans, i mean i have already helped fixed lake charles, pensacola, cocoa beach, melbourne florida and a big chunk of mississippi. hey but for realz you should really think about who is hurting america, the white people. thats the bottom line cause this fucken mexican american said so.

  • sistervist

    anyone every heard of the white man’s favorite motto? “Divide and conquer!” Bravo and thank you to Bol for doing the man’s job for him! Well done…
    Conveniently, while black americans are busy slinging shit at latino immigrants and bickering amongst themselves, our government can spend WAY more money bombing Iraq and killing and occupying other people around the world – which takes a lot more money out of our social services than any immigrant ever did. Not to mention the fact that nearly every economic study on the topic shows that (like Cesar said) most undocumented workers actually make a net CONTRIBUTION to the tax base (because they can’t claim any of it back and don’t qualify for most government assistance program). Illegal immigrants are actually LESS likely to draw on government social programs than poor US citizens and generaly CREATE employment for native workers, including blacks in most cases, by stimulating the economy. The threat to black and other American school kids is not Spanish speakers (which in a sane world might be viewed as an asset!) but the fact that our entire school system is shit, with poor quality and no investment being made by the government. They prefer to improve the prisons and send young people directly there…good business for them.
    So not only is the spirit of your argument wack and racist, but your facts aren’t right either. Like Luis said, look at the context of immigration: our nation’s foreign policy and “free” trade programs, which are screwing over black americans, poor americans and most of the developing/poor countries around the world too – and contributing to migration.
    There are lots of movements being led by hip-hop activists that are mobilizing for positive change: against the war, in favor of effective education programs, health care for all americans, etc. Why not support and join those movements instead of diverting everyone’s attention with your unproductive, fear and ignorance-based hate-speach?

  • Precious

    bol YOU ARE 1/2 HUMAN BUT COMPLETELY IGNORANT!!

  • http://hotmail.com the big beef

    all right listen the king is here so all yall wanabbe white boy wangata just get outta here

  • http://hotmail.com the big beef

    its the big beef back agian no need to try and out rap me bcause i the king anit none yall got bling and im ridin on dubs wit 24 inche rims and hea ill rap ur name 4 a dallar if lik wat im sayn hallar

  • Oside

    Some people are just afraid of the facts of this issue. First that shit of calling latino people s@#cs is just wrong man think before u say shit I know that fo ra fact a black person would not like someone calling them N@#$as is the same shit. But anyway immigrant people pay the same taxes as everybody else muthafuckas complaining that “I dont want to pay taxes for criminals” muthafucka please latino have gangster, drug dealers, like black people have bloods, crips fuckin hustlers and shit like that man u think I want to be waitin in a hospital cause some one got shot for what color they’re wearing please, is the same shit latinos here in cali have, south and north. We probably pay more fuckin taxes than every other race and I said “probably” ok didnt say we do cause muthafuckas are later going to twist shit over. Another comment is that black people lived harder times might be right, but think about it at least u guys are being heard more than latinos, why cause there’s a language barrier, shit speak african here in the U.S they’re not going to listen to u, they will say fuck u “next”!. some people are trying to learn and others are not there just out there fuckin shit over and makin the rest looklike with black people some other muthafuckas kill it for the rest. We come to the country of freedom some legally and some illegally,but the illegals come here not bacuse they want to but cause they have necessity, shit I lived in TJ for fuckin 15years now im 20 years old. Shit man I hustled my ass off along with my dad till unfortunate events happened in life, its true that TJ is dirty and shit like that like some pussy faggot said itbut try to live there is like NY,LA,GA,VA all together man muthafuckas dont know they just go to TJ to party and then give their opinion of what they say in their little 2hr stay, shit is not funny man u see in the news dyin over money issues man the police coaporates wit the dealers and people die cause they owe money, lets se a fuckin example throw a bunch of black dudes into mexico bet u the most theey would last the I’d say give them a month the longest and then u would see, to recap we are not here to take jobs from people or fill the schools with kids its really unfurtunate that this shit is like this but its happenin and we could do something if they would provide

  • Oside

    More oppurtunities, but what ever man every one has an opinion. And before degrading people “think before u act or speak or suffer the consequences”
    I’m out PEACE!!!

    And no we cant get along cause the white people have us in the possition that we are in. Thank u fuckin pale muthafuckas.

    And like Ice cube said” Why do they were thugs is cause they gave us the guns and drugs”

  • kiss my ass

    seriously yo im in the hood, niggas dying out here i dont give a fuck about no immigration laws or undocumented workers…are you kidding me, nigga if i was rapping my only concern would be to get out of the hood and take care of my family, fuck everybody else…trust me latino people are strong enough to handle that issu on they own and if you think not ask one, latino niggas will tell you they dont need your help dude they got mad pride like black people do…so fuck yall pussy ass niggas saying what hood rappers should do and yo aint never live our lives and u aint paying a niggas bills and you aint bus ya gun or seel crak to make money to pay for them records so u cant tell us what the fuck to do ….im in the hood all day bitch fuck all yall executive niggas

  • OSIDE RYDER

    Thats muthafuckin right that nigga says the truth fuck all them bitches that are dickriders. BLACK AND BROWN CAN GO AS FAR AS THEY WANT. FUCK THEM OPPRESSORS.

  • http://xxlmag.com wigga_hata

    to slum lord:u need to read history before u say stupid shit us black folks weren’t no immigrants we were forced into this country by the crackers. something that was called slavery. as far as this ileggal immigration goes u beaner fuckas need to stay the fuck out and stop your bitching, speak english too we can’t understand that blab talk, talk fucken normal.we black folks pay our taxes unlike u lazy beaners so shut the fuck up OSIDE.we niggazs have it alot harder than u beaner fucks. us niggazs is alot more hardcore than u little complaining beaner fucks so stay the fuck out.BLACK POWER!

  • Beaner Looking for More

    “u need to read history before u say stupid shit us black folks weren’t no immigrants we were forced into this country by the crackers. something that was called slavery.”-wigga_hata

    I got some shit to say to you homes but first let’s correct your mistakes.
    black tribe leaders SOLD their their people for guns to go and kill their enenmies u dumbass

    “as far as this ileggal immigration goes u beaner fuckas need to stay the fuck out and stop your bitching, speak english too we can’t understand that blab talk, talk fucken normal.”

    stop our bitching,stay the fuck out you fucking idiot am not the one who is always talking back to everyone,teachers cops,my parents! am not making assumptions and ive seen plenty of black people bitching and as well as for staying the fuck out see what i write next.also blab talk that’s our language but at least it’s understandable you take an ese like me i can talk to a lawyer in spanish with out no damn slang now take some wannabe gangster nigga and the damn lawyer would understand shit from all the slang you always got to say clean up your damn mouth

    “black folks pay our taxes unlike u lazy beaners so shut the fuck up OSIDE.we niggazs have it alot harder than u beaner fucks. us niggazs is alot more hardcore than u little complaining beaner fucks so stay the fuck out.BLACK POWER!”

    lazy retard am always trying to rise in this world and if i can’t pay all my taxes i got pay check tax for social security and that crap money I never see also we do got property taxin my house we aint trying to “steal” nothing fromlegals we are just doing our thing.u got no idea how hard we got it we ain’t just living in the ghetto we also living with no oppurtunity to earn more with out working twice as hard as a legal.we dont complain amongst ourselves we rally get together show we mean it.when i was 10 a gangster moving out to another area of Mex City gave me his hand gun told me i would need it since gangbanging would be most certanly my destiny because of where i lived.the next day i used evry bullet first coming back from school a stupid cop tried to run me over cause he new my cous(he gave him a shot in the leg) i chased him trough the alleys and let 4 bullets into his wheels send him sppining into a street lamp.the remainig 6 on some windows of some guys trying to jump me so tell me were not hardcore

  • http://xxlmag.com wigga_hata

    you know what fuck what i said i apolgize i was to fucken ignorant dat day to realize what da white mans plan really is this is what dey want dey want black and mexicans to fight eachother because dey hate us dey want us to fight eachother and kill eachother off and i fell for da crackers trap dats why in LA dere is always fighten between mexicans and blacks because da bitch white police provoke it.so fuck what i said mabye black and brown can unite someday.

  • Beaner Looking for More

    wigga_hata you right homes.is SOME crackers not all white people are against us.some of my homes boys are white but got that spirt like the rest of us eses or like some black people i live in denver but no matter where u r white opression is everywhere that’s why i got one 1 open at night never know what the chota is gonna do to you next

    also u got a point with that black brown unity

    peace homes

  • nick

    latino here this is funny cause if you want to talk about illegals then everyone should go back to where u came from blacks back to africa latinos to latin america whites to europes and asians to asia and let the real americans the native ones have their land back and everyone else get the fuck out

  • WILL. 15

    hold up wait a sec>

    aint some of you latin americans half crackers or more than half crakers(spain)? i think so so fall back

  • latinpistol

    ^^^
    WILL. 15 shut the hell up
    i don no how many of u r black or jus white boyz but i did not expect this from black people. and i aint talkin bout Bol cause we all no he a bitch. it aint like illegal latinoos are takin executive or even jobs like mcdonalds or wal-mart. most are workin on ur homes or out in a fields. so if yall goin ta talk reckless, at least think about if u had to live again in Africa cause the countries conditions are basically the same

  • the_one

    Oh Bullshit I agree with the bun b dude, yall up north need to quit hating on them down south, cause it just makes east coast dudes look like haters and nobody likes a hater… but speaking on the real, It is not up to hip-hop activist to get behind anyone and lobby a cause, i never saw State senaters or Congressional members getting behind our black entertainers in the south back in the day to help protest segregation or civil rights…. they dont want our support they want our vote, and if u think about it, it isnt the same thing…. I will vote the next election, it will be my first time voting ever (besides for pretend in elementry school) because i wasnt 18 until after 2000 and there wasnt any need in voting in the last election, any one who can get votes lost in the state where his bother is governor can easily get some old white people to re-elect in a time of war…. But with a clinton on campaign and more importantly Barak Obama a black candidate with a strong following, I hope if either one wins, they will chose the other as there vice president… But back to topic, Hip- hop dosent need politics and Visa Versa I say if Russel or Puffy wants to rock the vote, go ahead head-bang that bitch…, but you dont have to use hip-hop to let it be known that ur political and vote….