Honorable Snubs

Unsigned doesn’t mean indie and neither do internet freestyles (no matter how many you drop). As many surprisingly cheered XXL’s Big 10 for featuring Killer Mike and slept-on acts like U-N-I, the rest cried foul for omitting Crooked I. Granted, the likes of Skyzoo and Consequence are worthy, they just weren’t buzzing enough at the time The Big 10 was published.

Here, XXLMag.com lists honorable Big 10 snubs and why they didn’t make the cut.


Ice Cube: The Don Mega has only put out one track recently, but “Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It,” and the Nas and Scarface-laced remix, definitely had people talking. Cube, however, makes more noise when his albums are actually out than the lead up to them.


Blu


Crooked I (Snubbed On A Technicality): The Left Coast lyricist beasted multiple beats for weeks, but the former Death Row artist’s label was actually distributed by Universal Records. Making him ineligible to be considered an indie artist. Now Crooked I is between distributors and, according to his camp, he’s looking to ink a new deal “very soon.”


Skyzoo


Termanology (In Due Time): The half-Puerto Rock lyricist has been laying the foundation for his rise for some time now, starting with his Hood Politics mixtape series. He’s built a following, both online and in the streets, and now folks are just waiting on that album to finally drop.


Ya Boy


Kidz In The Hall:This Ivy League duo made noise first by aligning with Rawkus Records and resurrecting the famed New York indie hip-hop label. Then they partnered with Duck Down Records introducing them to a new set of fans. Naledge and Double-O also hit the road opening with Gym Class Heroes. But they’re on the downward spin of The In Crowd’s album cycle.


Kid Cudi


Tech N9ne (Our bad):The Kansas City-based veteran rapper just landed at number one on the Billboard independent album charts with his latest LP, Killer. We like totally missed that one.


Elzhi

Honorable Snubs


Bad Timing:

*Consequence
*Sean Price
*Little Brother


We Major:
*Jim Jones (Signed To Sony)
*Wale (Signed To Allido/Interscope)
*Charles Hamilton (Interscope)
*Pacific Division (Universal Republic)


In Between Deals:
*Saigon
*Papoose
*Joe Budden
*Joell Ortiz

  • like what

    ya boy the greatest thing to come out the bay….he shoulda been included..come on xxl..recognize greatness

    • stockholm

      100 bars was som real shit, specially that “tupac-mini-me” line.

  • like what

    ya boy is the greatest thing to ever come outta the bay…come on xxl…recognize greatness when you hear 100 bars

  • GMAN

    where the fuck is hell rell n jr writer?

    • Pierzy

      He’s on the Garbage list…check out SOHH.com for that one.

      • TravG73

        LOL

  • Dona

    first !!!

  • moresickaMC

    who cares what label Crooked I is on…he sh*ts on 99.9% of rappers out and he’s upcoming. Stop the bullsh* “technicalities” XXL!!

    And whats your excuse for excluding Blu? BTH is a classic rap album!

    • LOL

      crooked i has been an “upcoming” rapper for the last 12 years…now he’s old and fat…he will never make it

  • Chris

    What about Atmosphere? Check their stats.

  • http://www.incilin.blogspot.com Incilin

    The 4 rappers in between deals are pretty much 4 of the top 10 rappers in the game right now. Everyone of them is a beast who is so nice and has such vocal support from a loyal fanbase that their nearly propelled into the big leagues. But end up in the purgatory of sitting on the shelf. Joey, Pap, Joell, and Sai need to just quit the fronting and say fuck it and go on Koch and all drop the classics that we know they got in them. There’s no way their actual albums will actually ever come out anyhow.

    And Sean Price is a beast who needs to be in the regular top ten (although I do admit, he’s got bad timing. If this list was made last year he would defy be on it) And why no Black Milk? Or is that bad timing too?

    • FLYTE DA FLY BOY

      Yeah, Sean Price is tyght but underrated and overlooked.

      • Pierzy

        Co-sign both of y’all

  • juju

    Thanks for clearing up

    I respect for giving Tech N9ne and Crooked I their props.

  • The Remedy

    Ya Boy should’ve made that list

  • Ayo

    One word: REKS

  • ..::HytekDesign::..

    How Did Yall Forget Tech..IMO He Shoulda Been On That Top Ten List..
    Joe Budden Is On Top Of His Game..If It Wasnt For The Label Thing..He Would Have Been On The Top Ten List..An Alot Of Ppl Hating On Him..So He Must Be Doing Something Right..

  • MikeJones

    Yeah “in between deals” like my uncle whose broke and lives with his moms is “in between jobs”… BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA!!!!!! Is that how we’re saying unemployable and unwanted these days??? “In between deals”?? I gotta go tell my uncle this one.. this shit is hilarious. He just “in between jobs”. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Yall crack me up…

  • nick

    Y’ALL OUT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING MIND NOT PUTTING SERIUS JONES ON YOUR LIST THAT BOY IS A FUCKING SAVAGE

    • Dante

      No one gives a shit about Serius Jones.

  • SmashBro

    How in the hell did Shawty Lo end up in the top ten and Atmosphere did not make the top ten. I like U-N-I but Blu should be ahead of them same goes for The Cool Kids and Kid In The Hall. Murs should be at the top as an honorable mention at least. Even tough he signed up with a major this time. Other artist that I think should be on the list Evidence, Sick Jacken, Planet Asia, Self Scientific, Devin The Dude, Dilated People, MF Doom. To me it look like XXL dont know shit about underground rap they only know Lil Wayne, T.I. and G-Unit.

  • Josh

    and Juganot’s not on this list because…

  • http://www.going.com/larrybrite Lancelot

    Ya Boy iZ A BEAST – YAY AREA StandDAFucTUp!!!

    Tech N9ne (Our bad)? ? ? . . . . . w.t.F?

    ‘wipe your mouth please, your missed some bullshi%.’

    • Lancelot

      My Bad – “You Missed some BullShi%”

      100!

  • KLETEWOOD

    Crooked I needs to change the gayness of that close up PICTURE (no homo). HE LOOKS LIKE A CREEPY CHILD MOLESTER.

    Jim Jones looks constipated.

    Kid Cudi looks like he’s caught on a ACID trip.

    • LOL

      if anything he needs a new photoshoot..al lthese internet magazines keep posting these 5 year old pics of him…dude is all chubby and with grey hair now

  • JP

    sai is my boy
    but he has nowhere near the hype he had last year
    hopefully he can bounce back hard
    this whole list is banging though

  • http://www.bangedyourauntie.com Dlove

    Tech sells 36k his first week and you miss him? How the hell?

    That’s like not putting Atmosphere on here after they also sold 36k their first week out…

    …oh wait a minute.

  • http://bayontop.comm Townbizz23

    Man Ya Boy is shitting on everybody on that list aside from Crooked I. XXL been hating on Ya Boy. XXL didn’t include him on the NewWest list, they didn’t include him on the Leaders of the New School list. XXL need to wake up.

  • FaMe

    dead ass. why are Jim Jones and Ice Cube really on this list? who makes these lists? cause they’re all just examples of all the people that pay you behind the scenes. I’ve seen more Crooked I and Termanology songs on here than on fuckin Google

  • McLovin

    Man I can’t believe y’all missed Tech N9ne. Tecca Nina’s been putting it down for a long time and this is the first time you guys have mentioned him.

  • mizeryluvkompany

    FUCK THIS FUCKIN MAG!! STRAIGHT UP…….I TOLD U ONCE YALL GOT WIND OF TECH N9NES NEW ONE UD B SORRY, NOW LOOK AT U, STUPID FUCKS….UHHH, UMMM WE COMPLETLY MISSED THAT ONE!!….SUMONE SHOOD BE OUT OF A FUCKIN JOB!!
    TECH IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE PERIOD, NO XXL, SAUSE, BET, MTV, RADIO!!..NO LUV!!….TECHS SHIT GOES SO HARD, GO COP IT IF U AINT GOT IT…..SEE THEY SAW WUT THE STREETS WANTD, NOW THERE FLIPPN THE SCRIPT,.. U SHOOD OF ALREADY KNOWN!!….BITCH ASS PUBLISHIN BULLSHIT….WHY DONT U GIVE TECH BOUT 4-5 PAGES N UR MAG….AND THEN WE STRAIGHT!!
    TECH NIZZEL…..AHOOOO, AHOOOO!!

  • Laron

    This shoulda been the list instead of a list wit the biggest bitch in the rap game Shawty Lo. Fuck You Shawty lo!!!!

  • duf

    Charles Hamilton is amazing, like a (even)
    better Lil Wayne.

  • Silcc-E-FYN

    The Tech Ninna shouldve been at the TOP and is the hardest and most definitely the highest underrated artist I know of…

    big up to MURDER DOG for givin dude the exposure and love this hard-working nigga deserves

    get with it already…

    Silcc

  • South Sidah

    I agree about Ya Boy he killed that BWS Journal Volume 1 song What’s Beef with the Game.

  • Real Talk

    This is basically a XXL “wow, our real top 10 list was really wack and we lost alot of street cred, so we pretty much just named anybody else that is indy that we didn’t mention and explain a little bit how we fucked up” list. No Royce 5’9 on there, that’s ashame, but he just signed with Atlantic so it’s all good.

  • dmb

    blue scholars?

  • ThatNigga

    Yo, this is ridiculous, how is XXL gonna put like 8 niggas in front of Tech N9ne when dude is NUMBER 1 on the Independent Charts! Are yall fuckin’ retarded or something? We like are totally fucking serving the Industry what they want to see and hear. Fuck this bullshit ass magazine, Not recognizing real when they see it. Oh wait didn’t yall do the same to Atmosphere too, hmmm… Looks like some magazine dosen’t Know what the FUCK they are talking about. Real Talk…

  • Mikey

    How do you forget the #1 Independent Artist on the market (Tech N9ne), your magazine claims to cover all of hip-hop and rap, but you fail to see someone who is killin’ it right in front of your eyes, shit as he says, “why do i keep on makin’ this when yall don’t get it! It’s like beating a dead fucking horse!” Maybe now yall will actually know his name…

  • the-K.I.D

    said it before and i’ll say it again…joey shoulda been on ur firs list!wat u mean he between deals? Padded Room on sep. 16th

  • Purple Kush

    Tech n9ne will rip all these rappers a new one

  • mr 17.5

    Ya boy is the only real nigga on that list B. Im from the east coast and still fuck with that niggas. Dudes flow is crazzy and he be murderen every beat he touches.

  • http://www.wordofsouth.com LB

    Where’s Wes Fif?

  • GUERRILLA

    YO YA BOY WAS TIGHT UP UNTIL “THE FIX” MIXTAPE AND THEN IN “OPTIMUS RHYME” DUDE SOLD OUT HELLA HARD MAN!!! I DNT GIVE A FUCK WHO U ARE!!! U KNO DAMN RIGHT HE SOLD OUT! JUST COMPARE THAT CD WITH THE FIRST 3 CDS HE DROPPED! SEEEEELLLLL OUUTTT!!!

  • Killer- Kush please

    ya boy is the illest new comer period we bump his shit all day over here in brooklyn props dude cuz you nice ya boy

  • http://bossip shellshock

    Ice Cube is in a league of his own… You can’t touch him. I can not think of anyone on his level, and I put that on my block!

  • me

    what about wiz khalifa?

  • Queens Boy

    what about gza or how about mf doom or mf grimm? what the fuck xxl?!! you need to rehaul that list!!!

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    I fucks with Kid Cudi [ll].

  • Q! tha Great!

    technicality? my bad, we missed that one?
    capitol W, capitol T, capitol F!!!!!!!!

    XXL, ya’ll on some BS! Crooked I and Tech N9ne should have been on the first list. Infact, the best albums so far this year are:
    1. Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III
    2. Nas: Nas
    3. Tech N9ne: Killer
    4. Killer Mike: I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind II

    GO COP THOSE MY PEOPLE! KEEP REAL HIP_HOP ALIVE

  • Smooth Operateur

    Dear XXL

    I know you try your best to put some culture in this ignorant shit called rap. And it’s great to see y’all are the only mag who is trying to constantly get in touch with the consumers and the rap music addicts. Yes you put out hot news all the time (but others do it too), you give some interesting points some time through your bloggers (I said “sometimes”).

    But unfortunately, those people working there, like it’s the case most of the time in any environment, are not the best at what they do… Knowing how to write is one thing, knowing what you write about is another thing. So take your journalist diploma and get the fuck out…

    It’s hard to try to be “real” when you fuck with the industry, like y’all dont know if y’all should put what’s good or what’s hot, because that’s totally 2 different things right ? Shawty Lo is hot, but he’ll never be good. Lil Wayne is pretty good and hot, but he’ll never be as good as a Crooked I, who’s hot but who’ll never be as hot as a Lil Wayne…

    And why do y’all messing up with that “he was signed yesterday but he’s left today”… I dont think the public gives a fuck about that. This is on some industry shit, and the industry is punks… Are XXL peeps punks ? I wonder if this happens in other music genres ? Like “Radiohead are good but they are going indy so they may never be platinum again, let’s say it and maybe I’ll be the one who have predicted their fall before anybody else”. To all your fucking journalists out there in hiphop, STOP SPECULATING ON MUSIC !!!!!!! This is not Wall Street and you aint no golden boys !!!!!

    Time to make a decision in this rap shit… Industry people, or not ?

  • yo

    Why aren’t Atmosphere or Brother Ali on this list? I mean rhymesayers has been running the independent game. Slipping XXL. Slipping.

  • mizeryluvkompany

    Q the great, rite on man, glad u supportin tech n9ne man!!!….u listed killer as a best album of 08….i agree man….support tech n9ne the best rapper n the game……go get it

    BEST RAPPER PERIOD, FUCK LIL LOLLI POP WAYNE, CRYIN BITCH ASS KANYE, ROIDED UP CURTIS,…FUCK ALL NEW CUMMERS, S. BOY, YUNG BERGS A PUSSY, V.I.C, CHRIS, MIMS, ALL DOWN THE LINE….TECH N9NE!!!!….O YEAH FUCK UR MAG, LUV 2 THE SOURCE, THEY ATLEAST HAD DUDE N THE MAG, A LIL ARTICEL….NOT MUCH, BUT FIRES START SMALL, YA DIG!

  • darrell

    joe budden is the greatest thing to hit hip hop since illmatic/ready to die lol it’s true though

  • DCStudda

    WALE!! Is the best Rapper on the List Hands Down!!

  • http://www.thisis50.com lennox

    yo ice cube that is some sick ass picture u got ther puffin on dat chronic rolled up on dat golden blunt

  • Mi$c

    2 words… Fuck XXL! they dont recognize good hip hop even if it slapped they mamas on they face…. Ya Boy Blu Little Brother the dopest on this list hands down and still showin no love! Yall wack as hell

  • Mi$c

    2 words… Fuck XXL! they dont recognize good hip hop even if it slapped they mamas on they face…. Ya Boy Blu Little Brother the dopest on this list hands down and still showin no love! Yall wack as hell,,,,

  • Nate

    Kleetwood- Who gives a fuck what they LOOK like? Go back to watching E.T. and reading US weekly if you are into looks over music.

    Thanks for making up for some of your omissions XXL. Ya Boy, Crooked, Termanology,
    and the #1 Indy these past years in terms of sales- Tech9ne, other “technical reasons” noted *Saigon
    *Papoose
    *Joe Budden
    *Joell Ortiz are what others missed.

    Out here most of us havn’t heard of “Kid Cudi” or Blu though…

  • TUNED2IT

    1st & 4most TECH N9NE is the most under rated rap slanga in the game 2 date. KILLER is a not only full of crazy ryhmes but is musically the most dopest i’ve heard since 95.
    TECH keep doin’ it hard for all us KCMO hiphop heads. I moved to AZ a year ago and they show love 4 u here 2. So from KC2AZ PUT THE PRESSURE ON’EM!!(shouts to killa mike)
    TUNED2IT

  • JERSEYS_OWN

    JOE BUDDENS SKILLS IS ON A WHO DIFFERENT LEVEL HE IS TOP 5 DEAD OR ALIVE AND MY NIGGA STACK BUDNLES(R.I.P) WOULD OF BEEN ON THIS LIST ALSO

  • JERSEYS_OWN

    JOE BUDDENS SKILLS IS ON A WHO DIFFERENT LEVEL HE IS TOP 5 DEAD OR ALIVE AND MY NIGGA STACK BUDNDLES(R.I.P) WOULD OF BEEN ON THIS LIST ALSO

  • chuuch

    no mention of Killah Priest?

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