Immortal Technique
Rock The Boat (Part I)

immortaltechnique.jpgWith all due respect to Mista Chuck, “political rappers” usually get the Jehovah’s Witness treatment in hip-hop; we hear them ringing the door bell—and sure, they probably mean well—but we’ll be damned if we’re not gonna hide under the kitchen table so they don’t see that we’re home. Immortal Technique is the rare exception. His forceful presence, biting intelligence and personal confessions have set him apart from the set of preachy MCs. His two albums, Revolutionary, Vol. 1 and Revolutionary Vol. 2, have revealed an artist committed to showing the bigger picture behind ghetto realities.

It also seems that Tech’s own picture is getting a lot bigger these days. He’s now the president of his own independent label, Viper Records, where he just executive produced his new artist Akir’s album Legacy. With his own third album, The Middle Passage, on the way through Babygrande/Koch, a DVD documentary called Urban Warfare and a “mixtape/album” with Green Lantern on the way, it’s amazing that he has time to focus on running a label.

After we listened to Green Lantern’s new mixtape and heard Tech spit the line, “Al Queda and America been doing business well/They tighter than Interscope and XXL,” [Listen to the song HERE] we thought this Peruvian was trying to do us in. So, just before he left for the West Coast to begin his 2006 Invasion tour, we had to catch up with Tech to make sure it was all good. Shoot, after this, maybe Tech and XXL will be tighter than Interscope and, well…us.

First of all, thanks for the shout-out on “Impeach the President.” How tight are Interscope and XXL exactly?
I’m sure that’s a question that the people at accounting over there could answer a lot better than I could. Not to imply that y’all take money for covers or articles or for reviews, but when you do that much business with someone, you must come to form some sort of bond. It was just a rhyme, it wasn’t a shot out of disrespect. Come on now, you’ve heard my music, fam, that’s nowhere near being disrespectful for a nigga like me. I think I just pointed something out that wasn’t news to anyone in the game, or someone looking at it from the outside. I’ve always appreciated XXL’s support of the shit that I do. Shout to the Chairman, Bonsu, Leah and all the staff that works hard.

What do you think about hip-hop’s current love of all things “Stop Snitching”?
I hear a lot of criticism about it; [that] it destroys the community, that is creates distrust and prevents crimes from being solved. People lead by example, though. If the police want people to start speaking to authorities, maybe they should start speaking to authorities. They want people to take the stand? Maybe they should walk around the blue wall of silence and take the stand themselves. They want Latinos and Blacks to snitch on each other? They want the ’hood to snitch on itself? I’ve never seen an officer take the stand against another one and be like, Yeah, your honor, I saw my partner bash that kid’s head in ’cause he was Black and had an attitude. I’ve never heard one of them say, No, we had no reason to stop them. We just do that all the time on the highway in Jersey and hope we get lucky. And what about the government? You [ever] heard the FEDs snitch on each other with it resulting in shit? What about the CIA? They kill snitches. Who ever heard Col. Oliver North—who was funneling drug money and weapons to the Contras in Nicaragua—snitch on Reagan? Fuck outta here, nigga. You never heard of anything like that. You want us to snitch? You snitch, muthafucka. You want crimes solved? So do we. You want truth? Guess what? We do too. Malcolm X. Martin Luther King Jr. Tupac. Biggie. Agent 800. Gulf War Syndrome. Cancer clusters in the ’hood. JFK. 9/11. Anthrax. The circumstances behind the War in Iraq. The funding of the Taliban by America up to five months before Sept. 11, 2001. Start there. We as a people need to start policing ourselves. We need to confront child molesters and rapists, as well as the Church that—without any disrespect to Jesus Christ—could easily fall under that category too. We should start a “Start Snitching” campaign for the government to come to terms with what they’ve done to us before we point the finger at another brother. I spent an extra six months locked up and a month in the hole over saying nothing to the police, even after my co-defendant sang like a fuckin’ canary. I didn’t do that for street cred or ’cause I thought it was cool. I am a man of commitment and principle. I lost everything, in terms of money and my family, but I walked out of that cage and came home to NYC a man in every sense. I take that snitching shit personally because they didn’t break me or make me talk. I wasn’t for sale. And I don’t think that our loyalty as a people should be either.

Is signing with a major label something you’ve considered?
They keep trying to sign me as an artist and throw money at me without realizing that this isn’t about just paper for me. It’s about principle and about my success rate as the president of my own label. As the VP and then the president of Viper, I sold 80,000 copies of Vol.2 and I sold about 35,000 of Vol.1. SoundScan might give you some numbers that are lower, but the first 30,000 of Vol.2 I moved on my own and through a series of smaller distributors. I mean, before I even had distribution I moved about 10,000 on my own for $8 to $10. I don’t need to pretend to be paid for anyone. Even though I’m from Harlem, I’m not really flashy. I got a Third World country work ethic, like the Haitians, Jamaicans, Cubans, Colombians. I’m mostly Peruvian, so I put my money into investments. I own three apartments and a house I bought for my grandmother in South America. I own over 50 acres of farmland in Peru. I’m putting my sister through school and now medical school. I get as much as many major label artists for shows. I mean, my agent won’t call me unless we’re talking $5,000 to $15,000. I’m not starving and broke and willing to sell my soul to them along with the rights to my masters and publishing. I’m not looking for the big advance. I’m looking for what a record deal—or rather, a P&D deal—should be. A deal, not some piece of paper written in legalese that makes me a slave.

50 Cent seems to be signing everybody these days. What would he have to come at you with to get you to sign a major label deal with G-Unit?
You’re trying to be funny, but I’ll humor you. As a Latino with an overwhelmingly strong fan base of Latino people and someone who has plenty of White fans as well as Muslims and Blacks, I have a diversity wherever I move. I tour the world. But in terms of a deal, I would need something similar to what Roc-A-Fella got from Def Jam; they give 25% and have a large distribution outlet with support from a major. But I need to hold on to those masters since I mix it down and have it mastered myself out my own pocket. I have no A&R. I do it all myself. It’s no one’s vision but mine. I always put up the dough for production and pressing my own records. I don’t think that fits with just about anyone’s formula. People aren’t getting signed nowadays by someone who doesn’t wanna own them 100%, and labels don’t really break artists anymore. They want someone self-made but don’t pay them like they’re self-made.

Do you think being labeled a “political rapper” helps you or hurts you?
I’ve heard “Revolutionary Rapper,” “Street Politician,” “Political Rapper,” “Activist MC,” all that shit. I pay it no mind. They used to call me a “Battle MC” because I won all the major battles in New York. I know what I’m capable of. I know what it is to be pigeonholed in the game, so I don’t worry about what people say. The hardest albums, even the birth of gangsta rap, was all revolutionary: Amerikkkaz Most Wanted, The Chronic, Ice-T’s O.G. How can someone listen to these albums and not hear a revolutionary message encoded in them? I represent the streets here in America and I represent the people from other countries that come here as a result of what has been done to their homeland. Every aspect of this rap game is political, any veteran will tell you that. If you don’t like politics, stay the fuck outta the music business. Politics is the most gangsta shit in the world. Third World countries are rich in resources—Africa, South and Central America, all of Asia. The reason they’re sources for cheap labor, the reason they’re so poor and wretched and starving is that all their resources are owned by countries like America and Europe, countries that used to own them as colonies and keep the people as slaves. That’s politics, nigga. That’s more gangsta than you, your block, your set or anyone you know will ever be. I just tell it like it is, like it was and how it could be, [instead of] like it’s not, like wasn’t and how it should be.

Check back later this week for Part II of XXLMAG.COM’s interview with Immortal Technique, where he speaks on Down South hip-hop and what he admires about the Diplomats.

  • http://www.freethep.com John Win

    Immortal Technique is on the new album “Free the P”- which supports the upcoming documentary “Slingshot Hip Hop”- which is about the rise of Hip Hop in the Palestinian community under Israeli occupation. Check it out… mad respect for this brother.

  • bluerid

    peace!

  • jose g.r.

    best article from xxl so far…

  • HG

    good article

  • gerv

    He spittin that real talk foreal.

  • DIPSET15

    ik never really heard much of dudes music but he know how to talk….. We need someone like that to talk about whats goin on at my school and with these cops…. my brother says he was locked up with dudes man and they had a underground organization some secret society shit.. deeper than gangs, soime anti government group if thats true dude is even iller

  • fofo

    he doesnt look peruvian he looks puerto rican and was he in the military. post part 2 this isnt enough.

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  • EnglandRepresent

    Real talk from a real dude. This is what hip-hops about niggas, don’t get it twisted I love that gangsta gangsta rap but conscious hip-hop is how the art form was birthed and this nigga here doin it big with the art form. Nuff respect to Immortal Technique, Talib Kweli, Dead Prez, Common and all the other niggas out there talkin bout more than slangin dope and gunnin niggas up.
    One

  • A2Z

    IT’s the truth.

  • BEsmirched

    “Start Snitching” – damn, Tech done done it again. I’m just fiending for his new shit.

  • blackafrican

    Dude is really spitting that shit for y’all so called “super power ” countries. I’m reppin’ straight from the south of Africa and i can tell you tech’s got that real knowledge that don’t need some public or private school teaching. Its there for you to see. Peace to my bro. he’s a breath of fresh air.

  • Project X

    Immortal Tech is somethin the games been needing since the fall of hip hop as a culture vs. hip hop for money. The hell with these fake ass people usin rap music to make money, puttin out any old shit to profit. Tech is where it is. We use his music to hold anti-big business/ anti-human exploitation rallies. Use his music, study his words, dont just listen to it.

  • http://source one

    fuck this fake ass black panther he aint black .the revolution is something that we have to start on our own not with this wannabe.why doesnt he just do reggaeton.
    black power
    red black & green

    • NELIDA

      AND YOU’RE A REAL BLACK PANTHER? RIGHT
      WHEN HAS IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE EVER SAID HE PART OF IT?

      SO HE SHOULD JUST DO REGGAETON
      JUST BECAUSE HIS LATINO

      HOW SAD!!! YOU GET MAD OVER WHAT THEY DID TO YOUR OWN
      BUT YOUR A RACIST PIG YOUR SELF

      YOU’RE THE WANNA BE BLACK PANTHER

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  • Scott

    Yeah, that’s great!
    Just what we have all been looking for.
    Somebody else to get rich by pointing out the FACT that WE are All fucked up!

    I’ll be at the ‘kick-off’ of his INVASION tour at the South Central Farm, so he can see the disappointment on my face when there are no lights and sirens, or FIRE works in the background of this candy ass INVASION.

    I guess he needs bigger rims before he can set it off.
    IT ‘s bullshit.

  • http://www.myspace.com/n11dym Nadeen

    Technique is for real. The ones who are dissin are just ignorent!

  • http://beautifulhustle.com skaa

    tech got A.A. in the blood bruh. dont get it twided. right on for the truth. FOR THEM PEOPLE!

    my ngh tech!

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=887 sweets

    i dunno bout this dude..dun really here his songs but i really liked his song dance qith the devil..it seems like da dude tells the truth in his songs..n i disagree on da black panther shit!

  • http://xxlmag.com chosen

    fuck all who hate on dis nigga tech he the real and can hopefully put that gutter shit out and change the game much respect to this latin brother holdin it down for ma people

  • Aurock

    “one Says:
    April 5th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
    fuck this fake ass black panther he aint black .the revolution is something that we have to start on our own not with this wannabe.why doesnt he just do reggaeton.
    black power
    red black & green”

    You dumb motherfucker. For one, One, reggaeton is actually Black music too, created by Afro-Panamanians, Afro-Dominicans, and Afro-Boricuas. Talking bout some red, black, and green but you don’t know shit about the Diaspora, how many slaves were sent into Latin America. There are people of African descent in EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE. But maybe that’s too many big words for your bloodclot ass some Imma break it down real simple for you on my last point–Tech is half Black. And anyway, I mean, Bob Marley’s father was a white Brit–you gonna say he wasn’t don’t for the cause of African liberation cuz he was mixed?

    Say something smart or don’t expose your ignorance. We don’t need ignant bitches like you repping for Pan-Africanism when you don’t even know what the fuck that means.

    One (for real),
    A.

  • http://www.illlab.ee johan the great

    great.
    love techs muzäääk,
    but sometimes it seems, he is
    bragging in the interviews with the facts.
    though, i come from a different cultural backround and its irelevant.
    yoyo. but the track, with saigon and etc.
    that was bollocks. the old flow was real , the new flow-typa-nice-guy-drank-whisky kinda rap wasnt my cup of tea.
    but all the best.
    estonia yeahyeah. we fucking riding donkies in this bitch.

  • Medina

    A. speaks the truth. I’m a black man from Surinamese descent and i was born and raised in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. Besides that, you think they make distinctions between ‘spicks, niggers, gooks and so on. You must be on crack. We are all in the same struggle. I hate the fact that when somebody speaks up there’s always a dumb ass nigga that talks him down. When Tech comes 2 Amsterdam this summer i’ll be right in front of the stage screaming “Impeach the president”… and that ain’t even my president.

  • http://www.mikenice.com/ Mike Nice

    Hey Immortal Technique, now that Scooter Libby just snitched on President Bush Jr., is it now time (by your clock) to start snitchin’ in the hood?

  • bluerid

    i hate my mum if i had a gun i would have shot her dead today i cant sleep and am crying and she keeps bothering me with these questions what is wrong

  • bluerid

    YO I CALL OUT ALL OF HOLLAND TO FIGHT FOR MY ASS INSTEAD OF BEATING ME DOWN ALL THE TIME

  • bluerid

    AND MAKING STUPID JOKES I HATE ALL OF YOU DUTCH PEOPLE

  • bluerid

    ACCEPT FOR MY BROTHER I KILL FOR MY BROTHER

  • Mize2

    Peace to he God Immortal Tech. Dude really speaks the truth and to alot of people, he teaches them. There was mad shit i didnt know till after i heard him speak about it. And i went and looked shit up and seen the truth for myself. Peace agian to Tech keep doing what your doing Brother man.

    ONE
    Bklyn all day

  • bluerid

    i saw pink wants to come live in europe wish she will pay me a visit i listen to her.

  • William H

    I own both tech albums and have been up on him for a minute. The reality of the issue is that he speaks with a conviction that is no longer widely possessed amongst Black or Latino leaders, as many of them speak out of the spirit of fear. Right on to Tech for being liberated from that fear with the knowledge that we have nothing to fear but God and it shows through his message and music.

  • bluerid

    ok peace im bored where is cam?

  • FrediZLe

    For REAL that might of been the Best Article I Read Damn Dude is Kickin that Real Shit Big ups to Him and his Label he was supposed to come to vegas but I guess 4grand was not enough..

  • http://OMANXL1.BLOGSPOT.COM OMANXL1

    Good article; I’m not mad at Tech; I see some are though; the truth hurts.

  • Cal L.B. Rep.

    Tech is the best lyrical emcee i heard in a minute. If you hate on Tech you shoould go back and research your shit. Big ups to Tech. Cali got you…

  • tha turtle from detroit

    This just shows us that the hip-hop game needs more muslim mc’s like immortal and mos def and lupe fiasco…and all them other rappers that bear resemblance to rakim

  • bluerid

    i am totally fucked this time guess theres no way out?

  • bluerid

    fuck you cam its all your fault dont think your life gonna be easy.

  • bluerid

    LOL NEVERMIND CAM I GOT MARSHALL.

  • BlackDominican

    SMH @ THIS FAGGOT. DUDE BOUGHT A TICKET TO A TECHNIQUE SHOW JUST TO HATE. PROOF THAT THE BIGGEST HATERS ARE REALLY STANS !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Scott Says:

    April 5th, 2006 at 4:23 pm
    Yeah, that’s great!
    Just what we have all been looking for.
    Somebody else to get rich by pointing out the FACT that WE are All fucked up!

    I’ll be at the ‘kick-off’ of his INVASION tour at the South Central Farm, so he can see the disappointment on my face when there are no lights and sirens, or FIRE works in the background of this candy ass INVASION.

    I guess he needs bigger rims before he can set it off.
    IT ’s bullshit.

    BTW THE…DUKE THAT SAID SCOOTY WHATSISFUCK SNITCHING MEANS THAT NIGGAS IN THE HOOD.

    ONE CRACKA SNITCHIN DOES NOT EQUAL HOW MANY BLACK MEN AND PUERTO RICANS ARE IN JAIL OFF THAT. SIDES IT WONT AMOUNT TO SHIT.

    RBG LOVE MY NIGGAS.

    BLACKMAN IN 2006 !!!!!!!!!

  • Real New Orleans

    Stay real to yourselves. Dude given yall a look at the problem now ask yourself what’s the solution. You claim you real and he is a good leader, tell him to devise a plan for everybody to get money. That’s all its bout dumb niggaz makin sure when u shine your whole fam shinin too. Don’t make life more complicated than it has to be, just get off yo ass and make it happen!!!

  • Renigade

    Mad props to Tech for keepin’ a firm grip on the Hip-Hop game. Keep bringin’ knowledge to the table, mayne.

  • al

    one of the few real artists in hiphop.

  • http://www.myspace.com/revolutionary_wear nero the disturb one

    been hearin tech since rev. vol. one came out.. and i must agree with Aurock.. and for ur question only about 10 percent of slaves came to the US. The rest did go to Latin america. but Aurock u said pretty much what i wanted to say.

  • Mozeek

    I haven’t heard much of his music but
    he seems to know what he’s talking about, especially about the “Start
    Snitchin’” campaign.

  • Salma

    amazing article, amazing artist, the lyrics speak for themself. all those trying to fight the truth are continuing to divide our people. and when i say people i don’t mean race, ethnicity, religion, but those of us who grew up with similiar socialeconomic backgrounds in the urban society, and those of us who grew up knowing how tough life can really be and therefore were able to recognize all the injustices across the world.

    Peace

  • Marps

    Yoh, this guy is bring out da truth, he needs as much publicity as possible to get his messages out. Hes got it all and putin it a package people can accept and see through the propaganda and all the bull put out by da media.

    So can someone please give Bush head so we can impeach him!
    Much love to XXL for helpin push Immortal Technique out there, and I hope to see this world surpass this dimension.

    PEACE

  • NatTurner06

    One, I’ll pray for you bruh, you are lost. All black and brown people are brothas and sistas we need to take the planet back TOGETHER. You are no better than the white man who split us up in the first place, god bless you fool, god bless you. You can take a line from Obi-Wan Kenobi and apply it to your daily life; “IT IS BETTER TO BE THOUGHT A FOOL THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT”.

  • NatTurner06

    AUROCK, lol Damn!!! Don’t hurt ‘em bruh. I love it, teach, my brotha, teach. I think One is probably a white woman, here’s a line from Immortal that fits One “you’re such a bitch I think somebody made you out of a rib”. LMFAO One, again, keep your mouth shut child.

  • NatTurner06

    Bluebird (which is slang for policeman) somebody made you out of a rib too, shut it.

  • knox

    Technique is the rawest nigga ever pruduced! The greatest of all time!

  • pena capital

    if there was only 1 mc allowed to live..it would be Immortal Technique..

    so stop fighting for the crown outthere in N.Y,immortal took it to the world!!!

  • vickilla

    all i got to say its that people like aurock are just ignorant people and check b get you shit together pa cause my man tech tell is how it is and everything he says aint nothing but the truth so here a line that will go with all u haters (But when I’m gone they’ll sing a song about Immortal Technique
    Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
    You don’t give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade
    Like a fallen angel standing in the presence of God
    “Bitch niggaz scared of the truth, when it looks at you hard”)

  • vickilla

    305 got u man much love tech this vick

  • ghostwritah

    I’m white (norwegian), I love Immortal Technique because he talks about other more than “bitches”, money and guns. I find guns rather gay and have no interesst in them, but still I know more about guns than your average peckerwood redneck. It’s getting redundant when every bloody song on every bloody rap album is about how big your fuckin cock is and how well you use it. I’ll be on the first row on The Roskilde Festival throwing blunts to Tech, just because he’s more interessting than you and your goddamned Myspace page.

  • http://myspace -*DeMik*-

    Big props to immortal cause he talks about tha real shit homies have 2 go trough every day ,so big props 2 tha best mc alive IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE!

  • datruth

    Dis is da rawest, sickest brear I have eeeever heard in my whole life! Speaks da truth- dis brotha knows his stuff. Has a higher IQ than all dem lame-ass rappers put together!!! We need more ppl like tech out there representin and exposin da truth. Much peace & love from da UK!!

  • http://www.debateroom.com that mayne

    This mans real. Thats all I gotta say.
    Im saying this man opens up gateways for yall who just hear his music, you gotta feel his shit. Ayo, take the knowlege hes given you, do some research, go to school and argue what misinformation the goverment, or the schools trying to give you..
    thats all. Use your knowlege as a weapon..Damn though this man is intelligent, his lyrics poetry..takes notes all, haha.

  • Shondale (XXL) “spittin fire n Shellz

    SOME SAY THE GOVERNMENT WATCH ME? BUT THEY CAN”T STOP ME I”M DROPING EVIL WIT MY PEOPLE THAT”S MY POSSE. AND EVEN IF THEY PULL THEY TRIGGAS, THEY CAN SHOOT ONE MAN BUT NUTHIN GONNA STOP THE PLAN OF TRU NIGGAS” “WE POPPING CLIPS INSTEAD OF MARCHING WE GONNA RIP SHIT” ~ Stop snitching the elite white man is a *itch you can try to kill me but won’t have my soul “Black Power” From a Radical Black Man

  • NEU.SENSE

    imortal technique is one of the realest hip-hop heads ever to be in the game.this man spits the truth and actually has a message.yall should really pick up anything this dude has ever touch we need more rappers with out the coorperate”strings” holding them down that shit is killing hip-hop.holla!!!

  • NEU.SENSE

    A.O. post part two already…danm!!!

  • 12.9.14.4.26

    In my town, I hear people bangin they heads to some dumb candy shit. Respect goes out to you Tech. Anyone who hasnt heard dance w/the devil is missing out. You spit the truth and you just keep going. Fuck everyone who thinks your fake. Cuz you rap about the realest shit that goes down in the streets. And fuck people if they wanna try n a twist every word you say. Anyone over here who has ever heard you spit has respect. I cant even compare you to any rappers your music is so unique.
    out-

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  • http://www.zambooie.com Distress

    The first time I heard Immortal Technique I was taken to a new place. This was a place of being “awake”, for me his music creates an anxiety in my chest that can not be explained. Just know that this message of “distress” and “unrest” is wide-spread throughout the likes of many other types of music. I’m definitely caucasion by birth, and may never know the struggles of other, but I feel the Revolutionary spirit and am committed to breaking down the “white, good ole’ boy” metality of our nation. Again, I’m speaking from an outside point of view, please know that this honkey is thinking outside of the box. If you will, search for the band Strkie Anywhere from Richmond VA. A punk rock band with the many of the same convictions as heard in hip-hop artists as IT, Chuck-D, Mos Def and Dead Prez.

    Much respect.

  • Tiyani Masonto

    First of all,tech’s the shit.aint no mc dead or alive who can outrap him(either flow or message).I was a bit dissapointed by him sucking up to XXL though.does”maybe i wont get a xxl or five mics/but then again you dont own me” ring a bell.

    much love and respect to the undisputed king of life itself

    Tiyani Masonto
    South Africa

  • TUMELO MATSITLA

    technique shows how bitter the truth is. he could be selling much more than he does, 4 the truth he spits unlike most mcees.

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  • djhypanz

    We got your back tech.

    When we strike the beast it will fall, never to return.

    “VIVA LA REVOLUCION”

  • whatever

    hahaha…some people here are fukn jokes…
    you should all understand that this shit is bigger than race. like tech said, racism bleeds america but classism is the real issue here. until cats can understand to make a system based on workers unity, we cant have shit.
    i love huey and the panther’s struggle but their ideology was fundamentally flawed. seperating different races like were different fukn species is crazy…notice that tech avoids crazy racism in his songs unlike dead prez that go around screamin cracka while if you look over youll see that white people are poor too. theyre not so institutionally poor but theyre poor too. rich people need a mixed lower class to stay in power. if the lower class was all black, this shit woulda been over LOOONG ago.
    by the way, i love dead prez’s music too. its just that their racism is naive to me.
    and to anyone who wants to hate out there, im not white. im even an immigrant at that. and dont be a racist fuck and call me a nerdy “chink” cause im not asian either…

  • andrew choeu

    i just want to say this to Immortal Tech, you are the no1 rapper my brother.keep doing that good work.Your music is revealing the truth amongs black and white people.from african boy andrew.

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