Fat Joe Reveals New Album Details

Fat Joe recently sat down with Billboard.com and revealed some details about his upcoming LP, The Elephant in the Room, his eighth solo LP since his debut in 1993. According to Joe, he’s referring to himself and his legacy as a gangster rapper. “Elephant in the Room is a gangster rap album—rap being the room and the elephant being me. Fat Joe’s been doing it for 15 years and he still doesn’t get his just due,” he explains. The project will include production from heavyweights and longtime Joe collaborators such as Scott Storch, DJ Premier, Swizz Beatz and Cool & Dre. Joe has also tapped Plies, Pooh Bear and DJ Khaled for guest appearances. Notable tracks include the anti-snitching tune “Kill All Rats” and the recently leaked “300 Brolic.” Preemo contributed some of his trademark scratches to “Thank God For That White,” and “Preacher on a Sunday Morning” is described simply as “bass-heavy.” One track sure to raise eyebrows is the song “Fugitive,” on which Joe raps “Nigga, bitch, hoe/some chicks is bitches, some chicks is hoes…Now who gonna tell me I can’t say nigga?”

  • mac

    SHIT IS GONNA SUCK,CUBAN LINK JA RULED THIS FOOL, I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR A MAN WHO RUNS FROM A FIGHT, ‘ BACK STAGE WHEN FIF WANTED TO GET THAT AZZ

    • nellz

      ask cuban where he got that scar from

    • http://xxlmag.com the brown

      Yo Fat Wack is garbage! He is hood and street and is a nigga, but his rhymes are
      lyrically crippled and in no way should he even be allowed hold a mic. Fuk Joe sucks!

  • ddubbzz

    You cant say nigga

    • ill G

      why not? he’s a puerto rock nigga…plus…i think he just did…and does

      • http://xxlmag.com the brown

        Yo fuck a nigga! It’s so fucked up that this is actually even an issue. Niggas say nigga all the time. They say nigga about all races. It’s blown out of proportion. I hate being called nigga, I say it occaisionally but shit. Anyway, I see it as niggas is as niggas does, so nigga, nigga, niggaaaaaa! Wake up niggas!

  • Young Deuce aka Princinnati

    I resect any man thats getting money. He’s showing being independent is the best way to go. But I still don’t really like him lyrically but maybe he can prove me wrong with this one.

  • balla

    niggas is sleepin on joey crack. this shit gon be fire. that 300 is bangin. ima cop that shit.

  • PBreezy

    Sounds like Fat Joe has recruited the who’s who of beatmakers… Based of the names that were dropped.. Elephant in the room will be worth checking out.

    No feature appearances by Pistol Pete? hahaha I guess when you’re a street legend you don’t gotta do anything except flex your “muscle”

    watch… the internet wankstas, kids sipping on haterade will appear in 5,4,3,2….

  • BIZZLE

    HE’S A FAT FUCK TELLING FAIRYTALES….ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM? THIS BURITTO NIGGA IS A GUERILLA IN THE MIST.

  • Lotto

    Fat Joe my dude.

  • BklynBandette

    This Fat Cocky MotherFucker Has Become Too Arrogant. And Sadly Enough It’s Our Fault. We’ve Invited And Allowed Too Many Folks Who Don’t Look Like To Use The Word “Nigga”, And Now They’re Being Straight Up Disrespectful. Someone Needs To Check This Spic.

    Just A Woman’s Perspective …
    Holla If Ya Hear Me!

    • http://www.xlmag.com tlaster

      I AGREE WITH THE FEMALE SOMEBODY NEED TO,CHECK THIS CAT .

      • hector

        yoou dumb bitch! somebody outta spit in your fuckin face for that ‘spic’ shit!!! us spanish people go thru the same shit the african-americans go thru. were called ‘nigger’ by crackers just like yall

  • Where My Plate At?

    Plies/Khaled? And he says he takin NY to where it used to be? Not hatin, but if that’s the case you don’t put a rapper from another coast to do so. Sorry Fatty u suckin MIA’s dick a little too much now. He fat cause he ain’t sharing his plate like he’s suppose to. Ask Remy and Cuban Link on that one.

    • BK Cyph

      i’ve actually heard the album and it is NEW YORK to the CORE! MAtter of fact name an album that Joe dropped that didnt sound like New York?!?

      As a matter of fact waht other New Yorks rep like Joe? DITC Member, got primo on his album, Sean C and LV,

      Ya’ll sleepin on Joe Crack! Show some respect

  • http://www.myspace.com/moneyburnz MoneyBurnz

    I’m no fan of Fat Joe and I have no interest in listening to his album(except for those Preemo trakcs)…But I agree he should not use the N word..neither should Khaled…Neither should Black Folk…its a derogatory remark….only ignorant people use that word, whether theyuse it to spread hate or to acknowledge a friend, they r still ignorant…and BKBandette callin him a spic is just like him usin the word nigga…ignorance…breathe

    • J Money

      Anyone who says people shouldn’t say nigga don’t know what they’re talkin bout.

      Nigga doesn’t mean anythin.

      It’s nigger that shouldn’t be said.

  • yann

    please can some body tell faty dat is not a nigga is latino fuck stop saying nigga leave nigga for niggaz please

  • fireforreal

    Well I just want to hear the beats.The lyrics will like always be garbage Joey crap.

  • J.MICK

    MAN THIS NIGGA FAT JOE IS WACK AS LIFE. HE AINT BEEN HARD SINCE LEAN BACK, AND REMY MA HAD THE HARDEST PART ON THE SONG,GET THE XXL WITH LIL WAYNE AND READ REMY MA SHIT,THIS NIGGA WAS HOPING FOR 50 AND G.UNIT TO FALL OFF WHEN THEY FIRST START BEEFING,THIS NIGGA IS PUSSY. MAKE IT RAIN WAS HARD CUZ OF LIL WAYNE,IT SEEM LIKE WAYNE SAVE ALOT OF MUTHAFUCKAS CAREER. I CAN NAME LIKE 7 PEOPLE THIS NIGGA DUN SAVED.
    1.FAT JOE
    2.PLAYA’S CIRCLE
    3.BIRDMAN
    4.JA RULE(FOR A MINUTE UNTIL BODY CAME OUT)
    5.JUELZ(HE AINT GET HARD UNTIL HE START SPITTIN WITH WEZZY)
    6.TRINA(FOR A MINUTE)
    7.DJ KAHLED(BUT THAT NIGGA STILL A BITCH)
    FACE IT THAT NIGGA A MONSTER.

  • RBMC

    Fat Joe is corny!!! He needs to lean back and go back to chilling with the Tat Cru throwing up burners and ish. Pun aint here to write those rhymes.

  • http://www.myspace.com/brock9ja Brock

    fuck fat joe,terror squad died with big pun!!

    Wutang for life!!!!!

  • NWA

    Fat Joe only good for one song on his albums, the rest be garbage. And niggas make me mad when they say lil wayne runs dis rap shit, thats the funniest thing i ever heard. Lil wayne gat punch lines but he is far from the best trust me. This the ‘best rappers ever’ list.

    1.Eminem – infinite, slim shady lp, marshall mathers lp,
    eminem show & 8 mile
    2.Nas – illmatic, stillmatic & God’s Son
    3.2pac – most of his albums
    4.JayZ – reasonable doubt, lifetime vol 1-2, roc la familia, blueprint
    5.Biggie – most of his albums
    6. Rakim – aost albums
    7.Andre 3000 – most of outkast albums
    8.Method Man – most of his albums, black out & wu tang
    9. Red Man – most of His albums & black out
    10. Busta Rhymes – most of his albums

    Lil wayne carter series was ok but not classics and his carter 3 is sounding to be more commercial seeing that he gat timbo and justin timberlake and plus he tryin to get eminem to boost sales.

    • b.l.a.h. master

      everybody is entitled to thier own opinion but, your 7, 8, 9 ,10 SUCK! how do you put busta rhymes and forget BIG PUNISHER?with only 2 albums PUN shoed more lyrical promise than 7 of the cats on your list.

  • Kev Lomax

    Two words: Ass crack

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  • daz_oc

    i understand the meaning behind the word but shit the tha fuck over it…….everyone uses it now. I aint saying its ok to use it but it aint gonna stop with yalls crying

  • $crilla

    ok obviously dis dude shouldnt be usin da fuckin n word…hes white as fuck…i mean he looks like a fat white asian…jus cuz a few black ppl may have let him use da word he thinks hes down…wut a fuckin joke…dude cant ryhme fo shit..u kno y hes got big producers? he fuckin needs them to fuckin make people focus more on da beats than his faggit ass rappin style…hes a fuckin joke he fucked round his whole crew cuz he think he dont need em..dude is a punk bitch..n hes a fuckin cracka too..so quit usin da fuckin n word

  • phatsam

    fat joe is phony and a hater he use to hate on jay i remember when he first came out he wasnt even repping for latinos big pun did that then wants the movement started he jumped on i bet he dosent look out for pun family.

  • fuck you bitches

    fuck you balcks dont hate cause latinos sayin that woird nigga we are brown so we can say dat latinos stand up oh yeah we part of dat hip-hop movement fuck u hatersss!

  • Elephant

    I like how Fat Joe called himself the elephant…..CuZ HE’S FAT!

  • http://www.myspace.com/rimestrike1 Richard

    Ohio’s finest http://www.myspace.com/rimestrike1 check me out

  • Terrorricks

    Man all you fucken rookies that talk shit about FJ must not know about his history. Dude has been around for years. Check his first 2 CD’s which are classic in my opinion. Dude is from D.I.T.C …and if you don’t know what that stands for then YOU ARE NOT HIP HOP go back to your HYPHY, CRUNK BULLSHIT. Yeah I’ll be the first to say he switched up his style, but dude already paid his dues… for you youngins’ check out DA ENEMY, SHIT IS REAL or any off of his REPRESENT album

  • breezy

    I fuck with Fat Joe, I think dude makes good albums. However, I dont agree with him, or any Latinos for that matter, using the word nigga. I even cringe every time I hear Khaled say it. I feel like Latinos play both sides of the fence and wanna use the word “nigga” as if to say male and its supposed to be cool cuz they are not white. But if u cut them off on the street they wanna use “nigger”, as in the racial epithet. I think thats corny and if u with Blacks then u with us thru whatever, not just when its covenient.

  • pepa

    Did anyone have a problem with big pun saying nigga?

  • truth101

    yall motherfuckers are stupid. all spanish people are black mixed with white and a little bit of indian. they just speak a different dilect. there dna proves it. so if he wants to say nigga let him hes a nigga . you can look that up .

  • stacks

    yo 300 is not hot he says a bunch of full its jus that the beat sucks yu in and makes yu thinks it hot cuz the beat is tuff come on now he says ima cut ya balls of and put em in ya mouth and he wasnt even flowin how he ususally flows come on now he bumjuice

  • BklynBandette

    I said what I said because I wanted to get a reaction. I wanted people to feel the same jolt of Pain, Prejudice, Racism, and Intolerance that I feel everyday when people disrespect. I know who I am and I know where I stand. But, when my Mom hears that word- or my Grandma, or any of my elders- it brings back a pain that only THEY know and people like Joe aren’t recognizing. Whether it’s “Nigga” or “Nigger”, you insult my whole lineage when you say it. My lineage filled with people who paid the price with their blood, which allowed others to come to this country to enjoy the fruits of our labor.
    I know Puerto Ricans are of African-Ancestry. However, many of them don’t own up to it till it benefits them. When they want something from us -EVERYONE IS BLACK! But when they’re straight, they stand alone.
    I don’t know the age grouping on this post, but I’m guessing I’m a little older than you all. And I remember back in ’98, Joe did an interview for SOURCE magazine where he states he would “Look out for a Puerto Rican Nigga before He would a Black Nigga”, after that I lost respect.
    If he’s as “Brown” and “Down” as everyone is claiming, then he knows the history and ugliness of the word. And no amount of Spell-Switching will change that. He knows all the furor that has taken place in the last year and needs to fall back. He should have eased up, checked for what WE decided to do about the word, and take his cue from us. But to go on and use it, regardless of what we think or feel, is reckless,insensitive and blatantly disrespectful. And that illustrates a wanton disregard for us as human beings. Just like J-Lo. Even though Ja-Rule wrote the song, she never apologized for whomever she may have offended. That’s because she doesn’t care and neither does Joe. And the reason they don’t give a shit is because we don’t make them.

    Just A Woman’s Perspective.
    Holla If Ya Hear Me …

  • Mr.Defrosted

    I aint cha Nigga Chico what if I called you a spick?

    No disrespect intended

  • http://www.picturemedia.co.za I RUN THIS…

    XXLMAG.COM readers r reali stupid(wel nt evribodi bt most of u r)..neway..i mean watz wit al dis hatin..itz so uneccesary en funny enuf itz mostly pipol dat follow 50 dat r hatin on JOEY..

    I personaly like dude, i think hez a gud rapper. Hez las album waz dope, 2dope actuali..listen 2da 1st track on it, itz rear 2 hear a rapper put it lyk dat especiali dez days..neway ima let yal do wachu do best, hate..lol..i cnt wait 4da new album..ima buy dat shit..Jigga told ya fuckaz dat “udon listen 2 music, u skim thru it”..

  • http://www.yahoo.com what it do?

    Fuck you mr. defrosted. Come say spic when your in MIAMI L.A or the Bronxs we will fuck you up

    • Am*dam

      but you think it’s oke for Joe to say nigga?

  • http://www.myspace.comirvingmarshallproduction Irving

    It doesnt seem to me like any of yall listened to Fat Joes last album, besides make it rain that album was outstanding…. For those that say he cant rap needs to check what they listening to right now coz alot of u fake internet wankstas wanna type big yet u got soulja boy in ur stereo…

    http://www.myspace.com\irvingmarshallproduction

  • Padre Jimmy

    yeah, Preem got a beat

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  • Real Recognize Real

    This should make XXL’s Nigga Please Section:
    “Since my beef with 50 I’ve gotten richer…”
    ….man why are broke rappers so funny?…Joe need to be thankin Khaled and company for keepin’ him …NOT RELEVANT….but on TV.

  • Real Recognize Real

    Soulja Boy > Fat Joe…LMAO…naw im jus playing…their =

  • Brasco

    Mayne, I must be able to tell the future or some shit…I brought this argument up back in the Rick Ross article…thats some spooky shit!!!!!

    Fuck Fat Joe!!! (although I gots to check out those premo beats)

  • mike

    bklynbandette go suck a dick, a diseased one at that. You think spic really hurt? Puerto Ricans love that shit, you can’t hurt us anymore than we already have. Besides that Puerto Ricans know that’s how alot of people really feel, and what? Black people need to stop frontin, especially when it comes to Puerto Ricans, cause we probably the only true latin race that keeps that shit real with black people. And to the point I don’t give a fuck what type of Puerto Rican it is, or how we may look, we fuckin black ourselves. We represent one of the 16 shades of black, so boo boo like I said play with a big purple one. And the shit that was said right here on this blog is the exact reason why my man Fat Joe don’t be gettin his proper due, cause motherfuckers secretly be hatin on Boricuas, but then try to flip shit around like the black americans are the victims. Fuck outta here. Yall gettin crazy love in this world right now. Puerto Ricans be taking the fuckin shorts in this day and time, that’s why we have to stay together. If you can’t see, just look at hollywood and the characters we are allowed to play. Submissive ass people, or drug dealers that are animals. Look at the music videos, how many times do you see a Puerto Rican chillin in the video, being the main character, and getting all the ass? Probably never. One of our biggest stars got paid because of her ass yo, her fuckin ass. And now look, the minute she went and got married to one of her own, a boricua, she mad wack now. She ain’t shit, She can’t act, she can’t sing, she can’t say niggah. And I ask black american people why, because she ain’t running around with Puffy no more? She ain’t flagrantly suckin on black dudes balls no more so she ain’t shit? bklynbandette you sound fuckin stupid, and anybody else who see shit that way is an asshole. Black people need to take that shit to them crackers. Bring the noise to them, then I’ll respect what you saying. I’m talkig that real revolution, that real free the slaves shit. Not that I’m Jay Z and I get money with the crackers, so now I’m going to gentrify a whole fuckin black neighborhood because Brooklyn really needs a Nets stadium. Girl go step to them crackers boo, don’t fuck with the boricuas boo, cause you barkin up the wrong tree. Stop tryin to shit on other people of color, cause you think everything is owed to you. If any people owe you it’s them crackers so save that wack shit you talking about. I’m a niggah, I’m a spic and all that. But I’m also a Boricua bitch, and that’s what’s really good. Fat Joe do yo fuckin thing kid.

    • http://www.yahoo.com boricua

      Ay yo mike. Not all puerto ricans are black. They are alot that are just spanish decent or spanish and taino indian decent. Learn ur culture b. Anyways yall black people need to stop trippin, fat joe in no way means disrespect. Real talk

  • Zottapottamottakiz

    no mike both you and bklynbandette can go suck a dick. a racist telling somebody else not to be racist is like a dog barking at his own reflection. thats dumb shit.

    “Black people need to take that shit to them crackers. Bring the noise to them, then I’ll respect what you saying.”

    please. by the way im not white, black or latino so dont get all ignorant on me punks.

  • http://www.hip-hopkings.com Stu

    I like Fat Joe, but I feel he hasn’t shown his full potential yet.

  • Kaiser

    Preem got a beat -that’s nice – that’s all I wanna hear..

  • Darkman

    Fat joe said he got richer wen he got in beef with 50? When?Where?How? Lol fat joe aite but i never really bought 1 his albums not really a fan,puerto ricans is jus like us black people man stop hatin

  • anson4

    Wait till 50 gets a hold of this guy again he is going to kill him again

  • Murdaville

    Loyalty..J.O.S.E…..Don Cartegena….Me,Myself&I…All or Nothing……those are the fat joe albums i heard a few months ago and each 1 is HARDBODY…i was sleepin on him also b4 i decided to give him a listen…dont let his sometimes wack ass singles fool u(crackhouse w/ lil wayne) the albums be hard…im def.lookin forward to this 1

  • Mr.Wang

    And….who cares? I heard that joint Crack House wit Lil Weezy and it’s okay but Joey Crack is garbage.

    All ya’ll New York niggas know Fat Joe ridin’ the south’s cocktails like crazy. AND I know niggas in New york; dem niggas say fuck that nigga.

    So of course a great majority of ya’ll(including myself) ain’t gettin’ da nigga album.

    Only reason he still even in the spotlight is cause dat nigga DJ khaled, who is in fact a southern nigga(or southern Arab nigga…whatever).

    Oh and who made Make It Rain hot?

    Lil Wayne, another southern nigga!

    My point is Fat Joe is garbage end of story.

    R.I.P Big Punisher….a real rapper.

  • micguevara

    When trying not to be raciest ,saying someone cant say a certain word because of thier race is infact raciest.
    I am very split on this issue,i really see why noone should be useing this word,people were once hung from trees while haveing this word screamed at them,its a term of hate. Now ofcourse it is just a word,and the more we dodge it,the more power we give it.speaking off 500lb elephants ina room,raceial issues in america are 5000lb elephant in this country and we gotta start conversateing about it.
    When will the term “n-word” be outlawed?what if you heard a joke?”two n’words walk in a bar”,
    Also not all Puerto ricans have africa in thier blood,ofcourse alot do,you see more african cubans and dominicans,but still a large part of puerto ricans are decendents of african slaves. the problem is African americans seem to think they are better then most,includeing africans themselfs

  • Ali

    ehh never liked his music

  • BklynBandette

    Attn Mike:

    I wasn’t trying to hurt you, I wanted to make y’all think. But obviously from your “Intelligent Eloquent” response, I must have touched a nerve. And about taking it to white people? That’s what I do all day everyday. I bring it to anyone who acts like they don’t know. And if the word “spic” really doesn’t offend any of you, why then haven’t you made it a popular term in HipHop Culture? Replace it Nigga with Spic. Put it in all your Reggaeton songs. Get on public transportation and spit that shit in front of Elder Latinos. And tell me they’re gonna think that’s okay. I don’t think so. And the reason for that is because y’all wont accept it. Y’all have not accepted it as to who y’all are. Unfortunately, my foolish Bretheren and Sistren have. And THAT’S what I’m trying to change.
    Nigga has always been a part of HipHop lingo. But back in the day, it was used to send a message and get a point across. Now, y’all act like you can’t speak a sentence without using it 50-11 times. And that’s just being gratuitous and self-indulgent.
    Black/White/ Brown- I don’t want ANYONE abusing it in that manner. But since the topic was about FAT JOE,who happens to be Puerto Rican- this is what we’re dealing with.

    Attn Micguevara:
    If “Nigger/Nigga” is truly just “a word”, why hold on to it? If people are telling you it makes them feel uncomfortable, let it go and be done with it. Let’s put cards on the table: It’s more than just a word- It’s a State of Mind. When you accept negative terminologies, you begin to take on the characteristics of that word. Do I want it outlawed? Hell No. It is an important reminder of the History and Struggles of my people in this country. I just don’t like Continuous use of the word. Anything used too much becomes boring. It becomes trivial. And my people’s experience with it has been anything other than.
    And as far as African-Americans thinking they’re better than everyone else …
    Fact, not Fiction-Everything we create, others follow. As the saying goes, “Imitation Is The Highest Form Of Flattery”. So, maybe we’re not the ones thinking we’re EXTRAORDINARY!

    Just A Woman’s Perspective.
    Holla If Ya Hear Me …

    P.S.- I hope y’all didn’t think I was gonna come back with the name calling. Intelligence Rules Over Vulgarity ANY DAY!

  • AVE

    first of all spic is in the category with nigger not NIGGA so why wuld we put the word spic into hip hop culture both spic n nigger are offensive words.NIGGA is a word dat people been using as a slang word or in hip hop culture for a very long time now its evolved into an everyday slang word for rappers,blacks and hispanics alike. i am from JERZ and i am puerto rican…most of my friends dat i have grown up with or known since back in da day are black in every hood in jersey and new york ricans and blacks live in the same hoods for da most part.we go thru da same shit besides da culture we are not different i say the word NIGGA everyday people say to me everyday WADUP NIGGA WATS GOOD NIGGA wether the person saying it to me is black or rican its just da slang we use black people are not offended by it at least in jerx and new york for da most part not when everywhere i go people socialize and say nigga in da sentence. fat joe isnt the only rican dat says nigga u got nore swizz beats big pun tru life jim jones they all say NIGGA n they all are rican…da hip hop culture has forgotten dat we (ricans) helped build hip hop…it started out where? SOUTH BRONX n das home of wat? mostly ricans…we been a part of hip hop culture since it began wether it was dj,breakdance,graffiti,or rappin….dont knock a nigga for usin da word nigga ~1~

  • TheRefriedMexican

    3 KEY POINTS HERE:

    1) PUERTO RICANS ARE A MIX OF SPANISH WHITE, NATIVE INDIAN, AFRICAN AND OTHER. SO IN EFFECT MOST BUT NOT ALL PUERTO RICANS HAVE SOME AFRICAN BLOOD IN THEM.

    2) JOE DOESN’T USE THE TERM IN A MALICIOUS WAY. FOR THE MOST PART, HE USES IT AS A TERM OF ENDEARMENT.

    3) WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE? IF RICANS CAN SAY IT? CAN ASIANS SAY IT TOO? JEWS? ARABS? HOW BOUT MEXICANS?
    BABY BASH USED THE TERM ALOT IN HIS EARLY WORK WHEN HE WAS BETTER KNOWN AS BABY BEESH. ABOUT 1% OF MEXICO IS AFRO-MEXICAN(WIKIPEDIA). SO IT’S ALMOST GUARANTEED HE HAS NO AFRICAN IN HIM. FAT JOE AND BABY BASH ARE BOTH LATINO. SO IS IT OK FOR ONE BUT NOT THE OTHER TO USE THE HISTORICALLY DERROGATORY TERM?

  • Trillla

    fuck a fat joe. he cant rap for shit.

  • BklynBandette

    ATTN AVE:

    Okay, so how about if I called you “Spiq” instead of “Spic”? Would that be okay? The spelling has changed but … it should still be a good look right? WRONG! We can do all sorts of Spelling Acrobatics and it means the same things. Whether it’s Nigger or Nigga, Spic or Spiq, or Bitch or Be-Yatch- it’s all referencing one thing: SOMETHING NEGATIVE. And until your Fore-Parents have lived, endured, and survived in the segregated South, there is nothing you can tell me about it’s meaning that I am not aware of.
    But Ave, I respect you. You came at me with some sense so I’m gonna break it down for you in a way that either (a) other blacks can’t, or (b) other blacks are too afraid to. Yes, it is true that our people have lived together in impoverished communities since forever. We get along. We hang. We date. We marry. We live. Having said all that: just as I know that “Spic/Spiq” is an offensive derogatory term, y’all know that “Nigger/Nigga” is as well. AND, we’ve all witnessed how the carefree use of such terms enabled Don Imus to turn the tables against us. Black people are at a crossroads right now. With entertainment or day to day life, we’re trying to re-define our position in this world. And our image. Fat Joe knows this. Why then would he continue to ignite flames?
    And for the record- There are Black people who find the term offensive. Self-respecting, intelligent, self-aware , proud black folks know that there is NO positivity in that word. But when we express our disdain, not only are we combatting ignorant, shuck & jive negroes- we have to debate with y’all as well. Why is that? Black, White, Red, or Brown- if I tell you that something offends me that should be it. You should respect others enough as a human being and not cross boundaries. Why do I have to go through the motions of explaining a word’s history and origins to anyone in order to justify my feelings? Should you? Would You? I don’t think so.

    Attn Refriedmexican:
    You have a lot of good points. Thank You.

    Just A Woman’s Perspective.
    Holla If Ya Hear Me …

  • ave

    im not asking u to explain the words history and origins spick sounds like spiq and its not our fault that ur own people made the word nigga OK to use in the hip hop world and slang in da hood ur people (black people) refer to me as a nigga everyday in conversation or in da 3rd person they do not have a problem with it never did its jus da way it is here in da hood at least where we from in da tri state…im sure dere is exeptions as to whom might not like the word or having spanish or black people say it all together but it is wat it is,if my people was to use the word spiq in da hip hop world and slang since bak den and black folk said spiq to me den i wuld not hav a problem with it it s our way of life how we live remember it was ur people who made it acceptable not mine

  • BklynBandette

    If you go back and re-read my posts, you’ll see that’s what I’ve been saying from jump. Our own ignorance made this cool and we have to negate it. Why then would you still want to use it when asked not to? If you’re using it to refer to a bunch of clown ass negroes who don’t have knowledge of self, who happen to be your peoples-cool. But to go on mainstream radio and feel as though you can do whatever ’cause you grew up in the ‘Hood is non-sense. There are poor whites who came up with us too. Am I to give them a free pass as well?
    I too am from the Tri-State. Brooklyn Born & Bred. And if you know anything about NYC (especially Brooklyn), you recognize that we have a large carribbean community. So, your average black person is NOT american black. We’re the last of a dying breed. Having said all that, many you’ll find using the word “Nigger/Nigga” don’t even know what the word means. They learn what they’ve heard when they came over here to America. They look black like me, but the history and experience is NOT the same. But they’ll spew the word “Nigger/Nigga” right along with the rest of them. And when asked by others if they’re offended, They’ll tell you “NO!” OF COURSE NOT!!!! They don’t identify with us. So Ave., you must be extremely careful in who you’re taking your cue from. Just because I give you permission to smack the Hell out of my kid doesn’t make it ok. Overstand?

    Just A Woman’s Perspective.
    Holla If Ya Hear Me …

    P.S.- If you really think I’m being unreasonable or unrealistic, go over to mediatakeout.com. Click on the post about Fat Joe. There are some angry black folks over there who can maybe shed more light to the situation. Fat Joe has crossed a line and we’re tired.

  • THE NOTORIOUS C.O.R.E.Y

    WHOEVER THE FUCK “NWA” IS U NEED TO GO BACK TO THE GARBAGE U CRAWLED FROM UNDER! HOW THE FUCK U GON HAVE THE NERVES TO SAY “EMINEM” IS THE GREATEST RAPPER EVER???? U MUST EITHER BE WHITE OR U “WANT” TO BE WHITE!

    AINT NO WAY A NIGGA GON PUT EMINEM B4 2PAC,BIGGIE,NAS,JAYZ,RAKIM,OR LIL WAYNE!!

    EMINEM MAY HAVE SOLD THE MOST RECORDS BUT THAT MUITHAFUCKA WAS A FRAUD, BUT THAT GOES TO SHOW U HOW BLACK PEOPLE ARE QUICK TO EMBRACE WHITE MUTHAFUCKAS IN OUR HIP NHOP CULTURE!!!!!!!!! SLAVE MENTALITY STILL EXISTS!!

  • ave

    he hasnt crossed any line hes one of da millions who use the word as a slang its hip hop talk my black friends are not fool negroes who have no knowledge people gunna keep refering to me as nigga ima keep sayin nigga untill my own peoples actually have a problem with it when da hip hop community and da hood stop using nigga as an acceptable word in slang then ill stop,maybe it is ya own ignorance dat made it kewl but untill dat day comes no1 is gunna stop saying it or think twice about it.u have ur opinion on it along with alot of other people but i have my own opinion on it just like any1 else so da day da word nigga is unacceptable ill stop……besides dat im lookin forward to da album joe always comes hard da last album was hot besides make it rain and hes had 8 now since 93″ so i aint hatin on him

  • BklynBandette

    Now who gonna tell me I can’t say nigga?”

    When you spit a line like that, you’re challenging authority. It goes way beyond his regular “Nigga/Nigger” talk. It’s like, who are you trying to intimidate? Al Sharpton has spoken openly about his views. And whether you agree or not, he- like you and I- is entitled to his opinion. Yet, I’ve actually seen Joe at different functions standing side by side with Rev. Sharpton as a sign of some B.S. solidarity. So, what’s really good? Either you’re with me or against me. You can’t have it both ways.