POLL: Ghostface Is Better Than Wu-Tang

By now, you’ve all probably heard both Ghostface’s Big Doe Rehab and Wu-Tang’s reunion album 8 Diagrams. But with all the controversy surrounding their too close for comfort release dates, the question remains: which album is better? Was Raekwon right to call RZA a “hip-hop hippie” for the production on 8 Diagrams? Was Ghost right to get upset about Wu’s release date stepping on his own? Well, we decided to ask you, the XXLMAG.com readers, to decide which album was better. You might be surprised to learn that, according to you, Ghostface is better on his own than with his 8 Wu-Tang brethren. That’s right, Big Doe Rehab won with 58% of the votes. Check out the results below, and don’t forget to vote in all of our polls on the home page:

Which new Clan-related album is better?

Ghostface Big Doe Rehab 58% of all votes

Wu-Tang 8 Diagrams 42% of all votes

  • *KC*

    Wu-tang all da Way. Dat C.R.E.A.M. goes hella hard. Fuck a Ghostface!!!!!!

    • Bonafide

      Umm I guess that you don’t know that Ghostface is a member of Wu-tang. And is probably the most visible and successful member. So you my friend are a complete idiot.

      • tampa goon

        I would give most successful and recognizable to method man but ghost face cool 2

      • goosey

        METHOD MAN IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OF THE GROUP EVERYONE KNOWS THAT

    • Wz Up Lnka

      KC, the hell are you talking about? fuck a ghostface, fuck a KC!
      Ghostface is integral to Wu. fool.

      The albums are two different things man, right now, Ghost is better still, thats all it is, this poll is skewed man.

      Comparing apples to oranges.

  • JAY STONE

    This new wu-tang clan album is garbage.Ghost album is the shit

    • Ghostdini

      Co-fucking-sign.

  • http://XXLMAG DUNFIYA

    THAT HURRICANE CHRIS IS THE S@#$%….THANK YOU RAE & GHOST FOR RUINING MY WU-REALITY

  • mac Sleepy

    Well thts jut the facts… RZA, please get wit da program….

    http://www.myspace.com/macsleepy66

  • Rodjilius

    i havent heard wu tangs whole album yet but ive heard ghost’s cd and its straight fire

  • http://myspace.com/loonyt706 Loony T

    Who Cares? Both albums aint even relevent. That era in hip hop is done. The south is here

    • Mystery

      And it’s the shittiest era in Hip Hop in terms of creativity and sales….

    • Wayne Maye

      Well Loony T, those two albums from the Wu and Ghost are 100 times better than anything most of the releases from the south this year. It’s just as relevant as T.I. or anyone like him, even though he’s not what I would consider hip hop material.

  • rosecity

    the Ghost album is safe, tried; the new Wu’s got some re-play value, a truly original album. I think ‘real’, perhaps aged, Wu fans will agree with me.

    • greyskull

      Yip, thats how I feel exactly. 8 Diagrams is like nicotine – you kind have to force it upon yourself for a while, but now I can’t go a day without it.

  • LAUGHIN @ LOONY T

    LOONY T GO HOME THE SOUTH PUTS OUT A LOT OF GARBAGE THERES AN EXCEPTION 4 SOME ARTIST 4RM THE SOUTH NOBODY CARES ABOUT SNAP MUSIC THE SOUTH HAS KILLED HIP-HOP

    • http://myspace.com/loonyt706 Loony T

      The whole south dont do snap music. The south is far more versatile than east coast music. all yall shit sound the same. we got crunk, snap, traditional hip hop, bass, booty-shake, gangsta, screwed and chopped, and not to mention artist like Outkast and Goodie Mob who fall into non of these categories. East coast is all the same. Lame, no wonder yall fell off.

    • Wayne Maye

      Laughing @ Loony T, great comments. The South HAS killed hip hop, and no one can tell me any differently. A lot of garbage does come from there, and one of the ONLY exceptions I make is the legendary Scarface, who has always made the best music in the south.

  • http://xXLMAG jb-da b.stuy reppa

    First off fuck Loony T!! Respect the legends dumb nigga. Now..The Wu
    album was TRASH!!!! I’m still trying to return it for a refund. Ghost shit on the other hand was tough and i’m glad I supported that album as well. Rza fucked up the Wu album!!! No disrespect to him because he’s still a legendary producer based on what he did back in the day
    but damn!! The lyrics were tight but the beats were all wrong. Why
    couldn’t Rza get Just, Kanye, Premier or even Eric Sermon for the album. I’m sure it would have came out a lot better. I guess we can
    kiss that Cuban Linx 2 good bye…..Damn.

  • http://xXLMAG jb-da b.stuy reppa

    First off fuck Loony T!! Respect the legends dumb nigga. Now..The Wu
    album was TRASH!!!! I’m still trying to return it for a refund. Ghost shit on the other hand was tough and i’m glad I supported that album as well. Rza fucked up the Wu album!!! No disrespect to him because he’s still a legendary producer based on what he did back in the day
    but damn!! The lyrics were tight but the beats were all wrong. Why
    couldn’t Rza get Just, Kanye, Premier or even Eric Sermon for the album. I’m sure it would have came out a lot better. I guess we can
    kiss that Cuban Linx 2 good bye…..Damn.

  • texasleen

    ghost

  • OpenHeads

    That ghost is cookie cutter rap shit. However, it seems like the more dull he becomes, the more people seem to like him.
    I can’t call it.

  • Ali

    chea Ghostface is tha best but because of tha majority of the fans & their horrrible taste in real music….he don’t get exposed much…..Meth is more exposed cuz tha movies….but neway I didn’t get 8 Diagrams but I don’t even care, it can’t be better than “Big Doe Rehab”….thats a masterpiece

  • C-Dope

    fuck both of em

  • garlik breath

    the ghostface cd is heat … one of his best

  • Tre

    I heard the original tracks before I heard the final album as far as 8 diagrams go. RZA should have really left the album the fuck alone. If you search, there are two versions of “The heart Gently Weeps” The first one is much better than the one on the album. Big Doe Rehab is a much more upbeat record than 8 diagrams.

  • Dan99

    One album dosn’t define that Ghost is better than Wu. There was no chemistry when making the Wu album and that’s where the flaws started.

    Bigdoe rehab > 8 diagrams

    Ghostace < Wu-Tang

  • Soldier Boys Bitch!!!

    All I know is that Soldier BOy’s Crank That is the SHIT!!!! way better than the WU or even Ghost! He’s better lyricist, and way better stage presence! Oh and I’m a Man!!!! Super man me Soldier!!!!!!

    • Darkman

      Ur a fuckin fag thats wat u r. Where the fuck u from,soldier boy is shit,all he talks about is dancing an all type of shit. Soldier boy LYRICIST? Get the fuck outta here,an u want him 2 do u wat? Nigga go fuck ur self,ghost,meth an rae is the shit

    • Wayne Maye

      I will not even begin to type a scathing response to Soldier Boys Bitch or anyone who logically thinks that Crank That is better than Wu, Ghost, or any REAL hip hop.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com noid

    i didnt get any of them on the strengh of the wu members acting like a bunch or crybabies and grandpas lately.some are complaining about the beats on the album and money and shit like that, and others are pulling stunts at shows complaining about rappers that are doing better then them!

    the double cd wu tang forever will always spin in my crib,but thats where it stops.

    even without rza they should’ve called premo,havoc and alchemist do do new beats and it would’ve been 100 times better!

    • Soldier Boys itch

      Soldier BOys is ay better than both these whack excuses for mc’s Better Flow, Deliver, and stage pressesnce!! Oh yeah, I am a man, Super man me soldier boy!!!!!

      • Razor

        N then whut go listen to Celine dion on a Lil Jon beat.

  • They are both past their time…

    Wu Cares?

  • C-dub

    What a dumbass question, why would this stupid mag do some dumb shit like this. just because rza and ghost had some beef that is over doesn’t mean they have to try to MAKE A STORY and start more shit. Yellow Journalism= make a story cuz we got nothin to talk about

  • dbiz

    yeah i copped both them joints and ahh that ghost shit is tough hard body no doubt!!!! but to go as far as sayin that the 8 diagrams is wack isint fair either…campfire…rushing elephants….starter and some other joints on that 8 diagrams is serious wu tang….niggaz need to to they homework and study some past wu albums….they music aint for simple minded folks…if u want to pop drop and lock and all that other sojaboy shit go get that shit elswhere….wu tang needs to be listen to carefully to fully understand niether big doe nor 8 diagrams have catchy hooks or other rap gimicks these new age rapper flood they album with…they don’t need it there is substance in they music and if you not from that era or lived thru real life situations such as jail, drugs, the projects, stickup, and everyday hood shit You aint never gonna understand ut its all good tho….because the same way some of u niggaz can’t dig what wu tang is about… is the same way I feel about all these new age rappers ie g-unit, young dro, lil wayne matter of fact anyone with young or lil in front of their rap moniker i hate u all!!!!! and as long as wu is putting out albums i’am fukin wit them!!!!! otherwise hip hop in general is fuckin dead!!!!

    R.I.P
    pimp c
    big l
    big pun
    biggie smalls

  • Vicious Seiger

    Ghost’s Big Doe Rehab is straight fire but I haven’t heard the Wu Album. Still all in all I’ll give a blind vote to Ghost since the last 3 Wu albums were less than stellar.

  • harry

    the woamn looks so awful .She was said to be fond of internet recently. Some of her fans found her on a millionaire&celebs dating club Wealthyb Kiss Com. She has a personal account there with her pictures, blog and something about her albums…In her friend circle, some other stars can be found there.

  • kope

    i am newbie here

  • Krime

    both of dem shits go hard… Even though I thought da 8 diagrams was gonna be better dan it was, I still bang dat shit! Any real wu fan can see they were BOTH piff!

  • steph

    GHOST’S!!!!!!!!

  • Blak Blazini

    Loony T can eat a dick! Fuckin’ fag…

    • http://myspace.com/loonyt706 loony T

      lol, e-thugs…

  • Blak Blazini

    Yo C-Dope, your mother’s a fuckin’ slut!

  • RBMC

    Looney T is not relevant and your moniker is wack! GHOSTFACE is the joint Wu Tang album is ok but Ghost is better

  • joey doe

    OF COURSE THE NEW GHOST ALBUM IS BETTER THAN THE NEW WU ALBUM…SHIT IM A HARDCORE WU FAN AND I CANT EVEN NAME ONE SONG ON THAT SHIT…AND I HAVE THE LP!

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  • CMoney

    Both albums were great. 8-)

  • WOODLIN

    IM A REAL WU FAN
    WHEN I HEARD ALL DA TALK I WASLIKE DAMN
    GHOST ALBUM IS TIGHT
    THEN I GOT THE WU ALBUM
    FOR A REAL WU FAN ITS SOMETHING ABOUT HEARING THEM TOGETHER I CANT STOP LISTENIN TO IT
    I LIKE BOTH THEY ARE DIFFERENT BUT I LIKE BOTH AND ITS A PLUS TO GET ANOTHER WU ALBUM THIS YEAR IF IT HAPPENS HOW CAN ANY OF YALL CHOOSE BETWEEN WU-TANG AND WU-TANG THINK ABOUT WHAT YALL SAYIN THE BEATS ON GHOST ALBUM CANT FUCK WIT THE SO CALLED WACK BEATS
    ON WU’S ALBUM YEA THEY STRANGE AND NEW THATS THE RZA DO
    AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS WU BOTH OF THEM AINT NON OF IT WACK AND IM GLAD
    WU-TANG/WU-TANG/WU-TANG/WU-TANG IS ON MY BRAIN

  • James

    The real story here is that it’s good that Pimp-C’s wack-ass is in a “better place” and Spice-1 should’ve gone with that bitch.

    Yeah, I fuckin said it you faggot bitch ass niggas! Oh, and Ghost’s album is way better than bullshit 8 Diagrams.

  • niggafrommemphis@james

    You can eat a dick all day sayin that shit.

  • kingequalityvictorious

    Havent heard ghost whole albulm heard most of it its more aggressive but that wu albulm is straight fire its kinda laid back but what you want 40 year old niggas in a mosh pit Plus thats kinda dumb comparison have we learned anything from kane and able

  • JMICK

    it really doesnt matter because he gone get money off of both the albums so dat was a smart decision by ghost face to drop a solo album and his group album at the same time. mo money,mo money,mo money.MUTHAFUCKA’S

  • http://TheBeatniks.blogspot.com Seattle Slim

    I haven’t gotten 8 diagrams yet but I’m gonna cop it for Xmas because I support the Wu regardless. I do have that Big Doe Rehab and that shyt is tight. I love that cd. Real talk though, I didn’t like it as much as his material on More Fish but it’s better than Fishscale. I dunno though, hands down, the Pretty Tony LP is probably one of the best.

    Ghostface may not be on the level of Method Man as far as fame, but his material has been better.

  • Liqthez

    James = a bioooootch, like his hate’n azz moma.

    187 proof bitchez…

    Ghost = Wutang
    lyrics > beats
    Rap > Hip-hop
    Hip-Hop = comercialization
    East coast = Revelations
    west coast = Resurection
    Southern rap = Exodus(the death, the end)

    Let hip-hop die, and be born again…

  • Wayne Maye

    Well said dbiz and Liqthez.

  • biggie

    a poll ain’t shit, 8 diagrams is way better, face’s album ain’t too bad, but 8 diagrams is the shit

  • Blak Blazini

    Fuck Loony T and all that non-spittin’ bama bullshit!

  • http://www.myspace.com/rootwords Rootwords

    RZA made the whole clan. With the Abbot is where my respect lays @ the end of the day. Both albums were good, but I heard like 4 ghost albums in the last 2 years…and I eventually got a bit bored.

    Plain and simple.

  • GUCHLADY

    FUCK THE BULLSHIT..BOTH WANG..AND THE SOUTH SHIT IS PLAYED OUT SNAPPIN THERE FUCKIN FINGERz AND CRANKIN THEIR ASSHOLE FUCK THEM..ITS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT SOME MIDWEST GANGSTA SHIT…WEST COAST SHIT ..SOUTHS SHIT IS ALL THE SAME NAME A RAPPER WHO AINT BOUT LEANING AND SWERVIN? THE REAL HIPHOP LEGENDS ARE DEAD AND GONE. SORRY TO SAY BUT WU AND GHOST AND METH(SOMETIMES) ARE THE BEST LYRICAL NIGGAz AROUND..AND WHOEVER SAID THAT SHIT ABOUT SOULJA BOY IS LAME.THAT LIL NIGGA CAME UP ON MYSPACE (HAHA) C.R.E.A.M REUNITED WU STILL THE SHIT.HOW CAN THEY COMPARE THE 2. DID THEY FORGET WU MADE GHOST???? HOW THE FUCK THEY GUNNA ASK THAT DUMBASS QUESTION.FUCK OUTTA HERE..

  • GUCHLADY

    FUCK THE BULLSHIT..BOTH WANG..AND THE SOUTH SHIT IS PLAYED OUT SNAPPIN THERE FUCKIN FINGERz AND CRANKIN THEIR ASSHOLE FUCK THEM..ITS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT SOME MIDWEST GANGSTA SHIT…WEST COAST SHIT ..SOUTHS SHIT IS ALL THE SAME NAME A RAPPER WHO AINT BOUT LEANING AND SWERVIN? THE REAL HIPHOP LEGENDS ARE DEAD AND GONE. SORRY TO SAY BUT WU AND GHOST AND METH(SOMETIMES) ARE THE BEST LYRICAL NIGGAz AROUND..AND WHOEVER SAID THAT SHIT ABOUT SOULJA BOY IS LAME.THAT LIL NIGGA CAME UP ON MYSPACE (HAHA) C.R.E.A.M REUNITED WU STILL THE SHIT.HOW CAN THEY COMPARE THE 2. DID THEY FORGET WU MADE GHOST???? HOW THE FUCK THEY GUNNA ASK THAT DUMBASS QUESTION.FUCK OUTTA HERE..

  • http://www.hustleandflip.com CYPH

    FUCK YOU U LIttLE FAGGOT. GHOST SHITS ON THE WU FOR BEIN THE MOSTR CONSiSTENT, HALF THEM NIGGAZ COULD FALL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH & NOBODY WOULD EVER KNOW THAT ShIT> FUCK 8 DIAGRAMS, GHOST IS THE ONLY NIGGA DESERVIN MY CREAM FOR REAL. WHY? CUZ HE NEVER FELL OFF< NEVER CHANGED HIS sTYLE AND NEVER TURNED HIS BACK ON THE CLAN. HES DA ONLY REAL NIGGA DOIN IT RIGHT NOW SO FUCK ANYBODY TALKIN LIKE THE WU IS BACK….

  • gfk

    big doe rehab kills 8 diagrams..
    ghosts 7 albums.. 7 classics…
    wu tang as a crew is finished..thats bad news for hip hop..

  • Vinny

    Ghost album is better than 8 diagrams. There’s literally only three good songs on the new wu album, and I’ll tell you why. Rza’s production is wack now. You’ll get a few bangers out of him once in a while, and don’t get me wrong I like Rza, but in as of 2001 ti now he just don’t have it anymore. The rest of the wu are as sharp as ever lyrically, but Rza’s production is the weak link on this legendary group and it shows on the new album. Rae’s idea of a new wu-tang album without Rza’a production really is the best idea if wu wants another chance to shine in the late 2000′s. After 8 diagrams it’s safe to say keep Rza as a lyricist, but keep him off the boards…

    • http://www.myspace.com/rootwords Rootwords

      Respect to your reasoning Vinny, however, I still maintain my stance. If there is a new Wu album without RZA on the boards like Rae suggested – it couldn’t really be called a “Wu” album. I think that would be the death of their sound. It is true that RZA might not have the same style of production now, but he doesn’t for a simple reason…It is an evolution of his production style and technique (rather then a devolution). The Wu appeals to a wider public than they initially did, and their music should (and is) be a reflection of that fact. I think this is what the RZA tried to capture in 8 diagrams. I think that is why his style has ‘changed’…but, I believe it to have changed for the better since I can only but trust his experience. So; rather than being lame or outdated or ‘fallen-off’, I think the RZA is ahead of us. What he did on 8 diagams will be understood much later on. I critically listened and interpreted the album in context of all other Wu albums, which is precisely how I have come to this conclusion. Just as an example to back up my point, the music and soundtrack to “Afro Samurai” is more of the conventional hard hitting RZA production that we grew to like. Knowing that means that the sound of 8 Diagrams was an intentional sound. It was/is a premeditated, experienced & ‘educated’ move.

      That been said, Ghosts’ album is exceptionally good, [but] it is incomparable to 8 diagrams.

      Peace.

  • the G.O.D.

    Peace

    it’s funny that 99 percent of the comments up there come off as dumb and ignorant. First of all, most of the folks above only heard about the clan from Wu-forever and although people will say it was a lackluster effort, I still think it was a nice album–the various personalities were just overextending themselves i.e. concentrating on solo albums, ancillary groups, money etc… Second, some of these experts above probably did not like the first WU album, they just rode the bandwagon, true as a collective the Wu have never catered to what people have expected of them and why should they? 8 diagrams was a nice album–everybody came with that fire. Production wise, RZA tried something which was not that different from previous albums–it’s all about exploring new ways to give the same old thing artists have and will always look for-that newness/dopeness, if you will. As far as that comment about if the Wu were to dissapear and people not missing the other members sauf Ghost, you must have been living under a rock, dun. Go listen to Plies or whatever the wack shit you usually listen to.

    Peace to Man, Woman and Child

  • DeJaNupe

    Big Doe Rehab was/is better…

  • Real

    Raekwon definitely deserves recognition in wu tang. both cuban linx albums were tight as hell and anything else he’s been on he’s murdered