In a new interview with New York Magazine, former Jay-Z associate DeHaven tells some revealing stories about coming up with Jay-Z. While Dehaven alluded to having dirt on Jay in his series of "Jay-Z Exposed" YouTube clips, he failed to go into much detail. Since then, Jay addressed him on the American Gangster track "No Hook," where he says "“Fuck De-Haven for cavin’, that's why we don't speak/Made men ain't supposed to make statements/End of the story, I followed the code, cracked the safe/Other niggas ain't in the game so they practice hate." Now, as DeHaven prepares to release a book and a DVD about the controversey, he spoke to New York writer Ben Westoff about growing up with Jay, and how he feels about being mentioned in his songs:

Did you and Jay sell drugs together?
No, he ain’t do much selling drugs. I did all that work. He was just a good dude to be around. He was one of my best friends. I taught him some things, but I mainly kept him from being out on the street a lot. Whatever was mine was his. So, we shared clothes, we shared a whole bunch of stuff. We had sex with the same women plenty of times. We both got burnt! We had the drip. My mom took him to the clinic. My mom also got him out of jail.

Does Jay exaggerate his drug-dealing in his songs?
I’m telling you he overexaggerates. He was there to see things, but doing some big-time Frank Lucas–type thing? No. He nickled and dimed, but nothing on a major scale. He definitely didn’t sell nothin’ in Marcy. Spanish Jose, who he mentions a lot [in his songs], was a friend of mine. Jay didn’t have no affiliation to Spanish Jose.

When he talks about you on “No Hook,” is he accusing you of snitching?
I think he’s talking about the way I went about this YouTube project [and not about snitching]. But he’s into subliminal messages, so [I think] he’s trying to get me hurt. That goes beyond disrespect. He’s getting my safety involved. I can’t believe my own daughter’s godfather is trying to get me hurt. But it won’t work. Being that I’ve been in prison a lot of times, a lot of people know my credibility. They know I went all the way to trial with my federal case, and I won.

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