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Remember Saigon?
The greatest rapper you never heard.
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Why Saigon continues to win
Because he’s nucking futs.
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Goodnight, sweet prince
A farewell to Saigon’s rap career.
He is a garbage, who raps on mediocre Just Blaze rejects/abortions i.e. beats that were discarded by Jay-Z, Memphis Bleek, Beanie Sigel etc.
The guy is a total joke, and will probably be working on some building site, or sweeping the streets in a few months time, after he got dropped from Atlantic.
Saigon is on that list of the top 5 wackest rappers in hip-hop right now.
1. Saigon
2. Tru Life
3. Fat Hoe (Joe, I mean)
4. Slim Thug
5. Mike Jones
I can only assume, based off your saigon analysis…that your favorite rappers are bow wow and dem franchise boyz. Siagon, while i dont think he is overly marketable, has a fan base of genuine hip hop fans that enjoy listening to song about more then the money in a rappers bank account, throwing money at strippers or wiping anything down.
and I bet ur fav. rappers are popcorn cotton candy pussy soft type niggaz. Bow Wow is probably ur favorite rapper! U need to get the fuck outta here with that dumbass statement cuz ur just being a hater!
SAI IS RIGHT THERE SHOULD BE SOME REQUIREMENTS TO GET INTO THE RAP GAME AND TO BE CONSIDERED A REAL RAPPER JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CAREER FIELD. IT WOULD FILTER OUT A WHOLE SHIT LOAD OF GARBAGE. AND RIGHT NOW HIP HOP IS HOT GARBAGE.
are you retarded son, saigon,tru life are 2 of the most realest dudes out, tru life is signed to jay-z lable and saigon is gonna drop his album, and tru life is gonna drop is ablum soon, who are your top 5 rappers.
He is lying, he got dropped from Atlantic Records late Feb 08, and he is currently shopping for a deal right now.
I work in the industry, I think he is real desperate right now.
blah says:
And if you actually mattered in the industry, your ass wouldn’t be sitting here commenting on a dude that isn’t making you any money.
Saigon is the and he has almost a 1/2 million fan base waiting fo his release>> He has a message that;s why alot of industry homos and faggostsl like jamie knocks and them mobbdeep asses are trying to hate.
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I think Saigon is over-rated, and suffers from boring repetitious Just Blaze beats.
Everyone knows that Just Blaze is clearly past his best.
Just Blaze’s problem is that he is not musically adept and does not know how to compose original songs, therefore once he runs out of soul songs to sample, his music drys up and sounds forced.
Saigon would have a much better chance of selling if he got some harder hitting producers, like Collipark, Nitti, Polow, Lil Jon, Three Six (Juicy J and Dj Paul)- real producers who don’t sample.
Get rid of the washed up Just Blaze.
Man you sound like a damn fool foreal. Saigon is the most lyrical cat in the game and he’s got substance to his lyrics. It’s blasphemy for you to have him in that list and you should shoot yourself for putting him first in the list. One
MiRKED says:
sai is a cool MC’s in a market of copy cats & assembly line artist. i like him but like dude said he’s not overly marketable he’s not gonna have big numbers. look at the second comming of crist (in some eyes) lupe fiasco he’s @ 430911,not even gold yet & all these bloggers are giving him hand jobs that he’s so great. everybody is grasping for a dope MC & latching on to the first decent one they see……..IE the hipster movement
http://www.sp1200.net is where its at
Entourage might give Saigon a nice boost in marketing and sales. He’s supposed to be on the next season which coincidentally airs right around when his album is dropping. Actually, that’s probably not a coincidence at all. Anyway, the T.I.’s might be more interested in promoting a dude who is on a successful TV show. We’ll see. I’ll be interested in hearing his album, though. I liked a lot of his mixtape shit, and he seems like a intelligent dude, so hopefully he can blow up and better represent hip hop than most of these walking minstel shows do now.
What’s up with this nigga Saigon, it’s like everytime i hear about this nigga it’s in a negative light or he hating on someone or everyone else in the industry.
It’s like all these new/underground New York niggaz keep screamin how garbage everbody is, and how they can’t make classics, What the fuck is wrong with you niggaz???
Make a fuckin hit, get YOUR own money and stop hating on everbody else who’s put out ablums or hell even a ringtone hit. These niggaz gettin it!!!
Now tha nigga can spit, i won’t never try to take that from him, but can he make a hit?
There r plenty of niggaz who can spit, but just can’t make hits like
Papose
Saigon
Joell Ortiz
Canabis
Lloyd Banks (lately)
Crooked I
Royce da 5′9
willy the kidd (atl)
gilly tha kid (philly)
etc,yall feel free to add other cry baby non hit makers to the list…lol
Get ya ass in the lab and make a hit, cry babies!!!
Dade County Stand The Fuck Up, We In Here!!!
Fuck you talkin about but anyways my dude saigon spits the truth always but I’m just waiting on the album so around june or july we’ll see what happens
Maybe that’s your problem. You’re too busy paying attention to and looking at the negative and bad press, all the stuff that really doesn’t even matter. Rather than looking at what the brotha is doing correctly. You don’t want to hear about his In Arms Reach program, and all the community work he’s doing. You don’t listen to homie’s music. You’re too busy closing your ears to him, and hating on him yourself, to find out what he’s really about.
He’s not the only one that’s said Hip Hop is garbage right now. New Yorkers aren’t the only ones that say it either. Everybody’s been saying that for years now. It’s not like it’s a lie, it’s the truth. Hip Hop is garbage right now. If you get offended by that statement, then you’re contributing to the garbage that’s being forced down our throats by the industry. Simple as that.
I’m so tired of eevrybody saying….make a hit record. You can have a hit record. It doesn’t mean you’re going to go plat because you do. Look at all the so called rappers that have numbers 1’s all across the board right now. They have a hit single, yet they flop like a fish out of water when that album drops. Why is that? But somebody like Saigon with no album out, is getting by better than they are. What does that tell you? Exactly like I thought.
Moving on. I’m glad he shed some light on the Atlantic Records situation, because everybody was like, how come his album ain’t out. Clearly it ain’t his fault. Anyway, I don’t care if it’s 2008 or 2028, that’s an automatic cop for me. Because I nkow what dude is capable of musically.
u right they can spit.but understand radio aint promoting that type of music at the moment like they wasnt promoting any down south artist awhile back so take it for what its worth its called radio programming my ninja
Another boring ass East Coast nigga…. Im from down south & I listen at everything but It really ain’t shit comin’ from NYC these dayz… All I ever here iz them niggas talkin’ shit about da south… Fuck Dat yall need 2 go back & listen at da shit yall wuz puttin’ out 10 even 15 years ago… Now them shits wuz bangin’ I don’t know how yall jus managed 2 fall da fuck off & yall know dat new shit ain’t hot so get da fuck back in da lab & make it happen… I admit it iz sum bullshit down here but it whole lot of bullshit up there too…
The man obviously ain’t that boring, since you took some time out to comment on him and what he’s doing/saying. You’re paying attention (whether you think so or not), so he ain’t that boring. And oh my blue stars NOTHING WAS SAID ABOUT THE SOUTH, SO GIVE IT A FREAKING REST. I’m sick of you idiots bringing up coastal bias, when tehre ain’t none to be talked about.
I GOT NEXT says:
i co-sign Menaceman305
All these niggaz talk about how the game aint the same…Sht’ it’s been changing every year for the past 20 some what years. You niggaz from the south
Scarface
BUn-B
RICK ROSS
TIP
OUtKAst
and all the rest that’s doing ya thing keep doing it..I can’t hate because it’s your turn to shine..So do the dam thing. Now as far as these up north/east coast niggaz
All niggaz talk about is guns and violence–they talk about the game is BUBLLE GUM ONE HIT WONDERS but ALL THEY DO IS RAP ABOUT THAT STREET LIFE and honestly i’m tired of hearing niggaz sad stories. I think Saigon is a nice lyricist but he needs to concentrate on making a hit records…MIxtape is BULLSHT’’stick to making singles..ONE HOT SINGLE CAN DO WAY BETTER FOR YOU AS AN ARTIST THEN A NICE MIXTAPE…www.myspace.com/mc585
great interview, personally saigon restored my faith in hiphop around 3 years ago when i pretty much consider the genre dead to me after being a lifetime fan, anyways when the album releases in retail it will be purchased by me
and on a side note, peace to all the people that have been standing up to all these hater comments. i enjoy reading your replys more than i hate reading the hater comments
saigon is that dude. coppin the album when it drops.
also, the beat for this interview was kinda hot…
Noles says:
Some dude’s in the game will just never break out commercially, they can’t just can seem to bust through the gates.. I mean i don’t think i can mention a tune this guy had made off the top of my head….
He should put his effort into making songs, instead of just shit talking all the time… get yourself in a position with your music where ppl will actually respect, and listen to what you have to say… Dudes like Fif talk a lotta shit, but diff is.. dude has sold what? 30 million albums?
Saigon - Just another sub par mixtape artist who will never drop a hit record, let alone a hit album.
Everyone thinks they’re experts and knows the music industry. Stop talking about labels budgets, business, marketing, anything with numbers, sales, contracts….none of that cuz you have no clue what situation anyone is in and how much money they make.
Also a hot single isn’t always some club bopping shit. The last few years thats what anyone think is a hot single. Pain in my life was a Great Single. I saw that song all over the place when it was hot so don’t front. Come on Baby is a good single too.
What needs to happen from now on is people just like what they want to like. Stop being dictated what’s good music. Personally to me niggas like Jay-Z are whak and I’m not a hater. I just rather listen to better sounding and better appealing lyrics from my favorite artists. Stop copying off what some blogger tells you is hot or what your wanna be thug friend, or wanna be social rebel friend tells you is real hip hop.
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co-sign yaboy… the beats dope… but more importantly we need to appreciate artists like Saigon and Joell Ortiz, smart, intelligent, respectful artists who really care about their craft… give them that much credit at least I say.
peace.
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do not put saigon and joell in the same sentence, saigon is a homo ass bitch, and yes i wouls say that shit to him, hittin niggas and runnin, he put hisself in that position so he could run. why hit a dude wit 30 people around. u know u gonna have to run and thats what he wanted to do, fuckin bitch!!!!! pussy boy!!!!! joell is real, saigon is a piece of black shit
shut the fuk up u ignorant ass bitch…..first off u woodn’t say that 2 hid face nd second..i bet u a retarted homo puerto rican who like joell ortiz cuz he in fact…a PUERTO RICAN……nd that aint hatin on joell cuz thats my nigga….i was born nd raised in cooper projects but i’m sik of ya’ll makin racism off this shit…its people like you that make east coast hip hop go into this state….stop hatin nd unite….
fuck these haters saigon is in the top 20 at least. i would sell this kat 10 beats if he gave me the chance to.
these haters ain’t nothing but some bitch ass posers….nothing but poison to hiphop.
Wow, I didn’t know Saigon had so many haters. Especially for somebody who hasn’t even dropped an album yet. When you have a boat load of haters watching your moves, that’s a sign you’re going to do something big.
Anyway, Sai did not get dropped from Atlantic (trust me, we’d know). If he did, he’d say something. Because he ain’t hrdly the quiet type. Even he was to get dropped, so what. That’s exactly what he’d want. It ain’t like he can’t go anywhere else. There’s always other labels. He’s always said, he’d rather be a free agent, than be bound in all the BS with the majors.
Anyway, forget all the net hype. This is about Hip Hop. And anytime an artist actually has something to say, I respect that. I may not agree with him all the time. But, I respect his mission and what he is doing and where he’s trying to go. Because I know whaere he came from.
I guess I could still hold on to hear the album… Almost forgot about this dude, I can’t lie… As for the radio goes the programming did change for more garbage material I mean ABC lyrics and people speaking more fantasy like to a point where theres no reality in it… Alot of music from the south almost or does sound the same I ain’t hating because I am from the south… But today’s hip hop music is aimed more towards younger kids so I guess you would have to make your words simple minded for the young kids to comprehend it…
big up to saigon!
he’s top 5 d.o.a. (i co-sign q-tip with this one :-))
really wanna hear the album!
Saigon is a walking contradiction. hands down hes a sick lyricist but can he and just blaze make a hit for the top 20 charts? doubtful. this dude is constantly in some drama and hes got issues with the females. very disrespectful dude, that type of ish is going to leak into his career and subliminaly prevent him from truly suceeding in the game. i have connects and friends of friends to validate all of this too. not just pulling it out my ass.
that niggas the truth son i went to his show when he came to brixton (London) and i will be buying his CD the 1st day it drops
said listen, I’m a nigga on a mission Do what I gotta to get my people in position Help ‘em envision a better living condition Stop putting so much trust in your religion They couldn’t conquer without division Boy you still black, I don’t care if you Catholic or Christian Police’ll still fuck you up, young buck Bust you in your head, leave your body by the dump truck Revolution got me pumped up But it’s still a fact black people still think so fucked up How they got money to go war with whoever wrecked the buildings And none forever cuz HIV infect the children That mean the money for a life they can save They rather use it to send a life to a grave And that’s not righteous ways That ain’t even half, my real-a-real I could write for days, but I don’t know how they might behave You seen what they did to the ‘Pac’s, Martin’s, and Marvin Gaye Could you picture the Black Panther party today? Usin’ hip hop to say the same thing Marcus Garvey would say? Imagine Malcolm X over a beat Tryin’ to rally up the troops and take control of the street Still in the window holdin’ the heat But now we got soldiers on the corner like police patrollin’ the beat Fuck G.E.D.’s ? Niggaz need DP CD’s We don’t need PCP; we don’t need flat screen TV’s and DVD’s We need more knowledge of who we be
I have a new way for you all to decide who your favorite artist is. Listen to the music. That is why you like rap right?
Who the fuck cares what some 45 year old Jewish Record executive at atlantic thinks about Saigon? You know who that record exec’s favorite band probably is? Steely fucking Dan. You are letting those exec’s opinions of hip hop decide who you like and dont like.
How good someone is at rap isnt decided by record or ringtone sales either. If it was, the best rappers out would be Flo-Rida,DFB, and souljah boy. those rappers are gonna be here today and gone tommorow. They are fads, just like slip on vans.
Wow @ all these people hating on Saigon….that shit is comedy…
For those of yall that forgot or haven’t heard the record….listen to my fav. Saigon record til this day “Contraband” and then try to come here and hate….and if you hate after that, you shouldn’t even be listening to Hip Hop cause to say that Saigon is whack after hearing that would enable me to think that you have no fuckin brain or heart! POINT BLANK PERIOD!!!
Contraband (1st Verse):
First question for mothafuckers that’s spittin’ this “I’ma thug shit”
You claim you blew out a nigga’s brain, well what color was it?
A) Reddish like the dark shade of oxygenated blood
B) Brownish like water that’s mixed with dirt to make mud
C) Whitish like the man that created the virus to slay us or is it
D) Grayish like the gloomy or rainy day is
Second question strictly for players so state your biz
Tell me exactly what the definition of player is
A) Duke that rock links, flossin’ the club and pop drinks
B) The jail nigga that stash the mop ringers and slop sinks
C) The rich rapper who depict the pictures of bigger sixes
D) That broke nigga fuckin’ the richest nigga bitches
Movin’ right along, question number three is for the females
Never generalizin’ I’m into details
Other than the fat chicks that’s too quick to strip and spread
What is it exactly that make a honey a chickenhead?
A) If she’ll fuck her girl man on some shady shit
B) Go to clubs but’ll leave her mother to baby sit
C) Swap sex for materialistic objects
D) All of the above, love, you fucked up
The fourth question’s a question that’s still in me
Who do y’all niggaz think that it was that killed Biggie?
A) Southside Crips cuz Puffy owed ‘em a grip
B) Some crazy ‘Pac fan that flipped and unloaded a clip
C) Missiles from pistols from government officials
D) The same cat that came back and then sang “I Miss You”
HATE ON THAT FAGGOTS!!!
YALL CANT BE SERIOUSLY DISSING THIS CAT LMFAO!!!!! LIKE COME ON MAN!!! HAHAHAHAHA!
everyone should no already that he’s talented and real i just wanna hear the music and see how it compares to his mixtapes.
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Frizzo says:
I can understand where he’s coming from. The labels are letting fly by night artists get on and oversaturate hip hop with bullshit lazy music and this dude was sitting in a cold cell as a nobody just writing ryhmes and dreaming of something better and all rap ever showed him was the industry bullshit. At least he parlayed into a lil acting career.
MY PEOPLE!!!!! please take a step outside of yourselves for a minute, this nigga Saigon is needed in this game, stop sayin sh1# cause you thnk somebody else gonna thnk it was cool to say, good music is good music, stop hatin, shout out to Lupe!!!!
How sad is this shit, niggas reduced to arguing about the future of hip hop. All this pop shit that’s coming out ain’t hip hop. Saigon is real hip hop. These big corporations and greedy little niggas are killing this shit for good. Saigon is right, this shit ain’t for everyone.
I know this dude has lyrical skill. What he needs to do is stop making mixtape music and start making radio records. That’s when he’ll prove that he’s worthy.
Everybody is talking about how nice he is but,…..if he was to release his album, majority are going to download fuck up his sales. You got luv fa your artist purchase his music and support him. If he’s really that nice, he would appeal to everyone, not just a Hardcore Hip-Hop Head. Notorious B.I.G Had appeal and Skillz, No Gimmicks, He’s missing something, thats why he was dropped. Understand Its a business, No label is in the business of Losing money, their in the business of making it. At the end of the day its all up to the listeners and, everybody is entitled to listen to whom ever they prefer to listen to, no matter how wack or dope you may think they are.
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April 4th, 2008
at 5:18 pm
king of inglewood says:
Saigon is a washed up piece of s***, who has never had a hit, can barely rap, looks like a fag, and got dropped from his record label 2 weeks ago because he is so wack.
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April 7th, 2008
at 11:20 am
Max Profit says:
I Agree. This nigga don’t even sound like he’s confident in his own shit. Hot 97 is only in New York so who cares if they pull your record. This nigga got skill but that’s it. Too much of a lame to really get anybody excited.
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April 7th, 2008
at 12:17 pm
T-Rocka says:
If he’s so lame (which he isn’t), and nobody cares about him or his music. Then why did you click the link and watch he interview? Why did you even bother to comment? You know, it’s always those that claim to not feel these artist, that have the most to say about them. This is to all the people, who say I’m not feeling him, he’s wack, ect….why are the haters filling up the comments section?
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April 10th, 2008
at 1:17 pm
Danny Myers says:
My thoughts exactly
Reply here
April 7th, 2008
at 5:45 pm
king of dinglewood says:
dude had a hard life
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April 8th, 2008
at 1:26 pm
BLITZ says:
WHO WOULD YOU RATHER LISTEN TO?
SOULJA BOY?
TAKE TIME AND LISTEN TO DUDES MIXTAPES AND/OR EARLIER STUFF (CHECK ‘COLOR PURPLE’) BEFORE YOU JUDGE…HE WAS ON THE GUN AND GANGSTA SHIT BEFORE CAUSE THATS WHERE HE WAS IN THAT TIME IN HIS LIFE, I BELIEVE HE SPITS FROM EXPERIENCE AND HAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO OFFER THE KIDS WHO WORSHIP THE ‘MAKE IT RAIN’ OR WHATEVER ‘REGULAR’ RAPPERS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
DUDES NICE WITH THE WORDPLAY TOO, NO GIMMICKS AND BULLSHIT, JUST STRAIGHT SKILLZ WITH TIGHT BEATS, WHAT ELSE YOU NEED? A DANCE MOVE???
PS, I DONT KNOW THIS CAT, DONT WORK FOR THE LABEL, OR STREET TEAM, JUST SOMEONE WHO LIKES QUALITY HIP HOP…
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