Hip-hop has its share of self-made success stories. Sometimes, the indie hustle is much more respected than securing a big major label deal. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis are the latest triumph, but there have been other artists in hip-hop that have stuck to this model for years. In the case of Murs and Lloyd Banks, the pair have made a name for themselves through a relentless grind, while sticking to their signature sounds. To honor the indie kings on the Fourth of July, we revisit our July/August 2010 feature showcasing this side of hip-hop. Read our last entry, and check out Strange Music and Duck Down from earlier today.


With little concern over money and record sales, independent expert Murs really just cares about his music.

Written By: Gabriela Alvarez

It’s a long way from Mid-City, L.A., to Manhattan, which is where Cali rhyme representer Murs is shopping for comics on an overcast May afternoon. He’s in town for a stop on his Fornever and a Day tour and is taking a break in his busy schedule for a few hours.

After 17 years in the game, Murs has carved a comfortable spot for himself in the independent-rap world on the basis of hard work and smart decisions. Born Nick Carter (a name he shares with one of the Backstreet Boys), Murs’s early life was in sync with his family’s tradition of earning a dollar. While other kids played with their friends on Saturday, Nick was collecting aluminum cans, helping ladies take groceries to their cars or returning carts at LAX, just to get that cash. “My family has always been entrepreneurial,” says Murs. “So from a young age, I was always taught, if you want a G.I. Joe, find out how to make $2.50. So we would go to the store, and we would push carts to women’s cars for 25 cents.”

While these experiences prepared Murs for his future business endeavors, his shifting personal life probably shaped the insightful views expressed in his music. He often refers to himself as an “at-risk youth” when speaking about his adolescence.

The young Nick Carter never really knew his real dad, who took off when he was four, but Nick did know about moving, which he, his mom and younger brother did a lot of growing up, going from Mid-City (itself a multiethnic mix of middle class meets gang activity), to the “hood hood” of Lynwood, and then on to a predominantly White section of the Valley, before returning to Mid-City. There he began to feel passionate about rapping and formed the group 3 Melancholy Gypsys with friends Scarub and Eligh at Los Angeles’s Hamilton High School in 1992.

After graduating, Murs attended Cabrillo College, in Santa Cruz, California, and continued with his dedication to rap. Soon the budding MC met Mystik Journeymen, trailblazers in the Oakland independent rap circuit. “Mystik Journeymen had developed this underground railroad where they were able to tour Europe [on their own],” says Murs. “[Sunspot Jonz] was like, ‘If you want to rap, you should drop out of community college and come to Europe.’ And I was like, ‘Fuck it, I’m goin’.’”

Getting known overseas during a few weeks of performances in Europe was all good, but there was still noise to be made in America. The Living Legends crew, originally consisting of Mystik Journeymen, 3MG and The Grouch, came together in 1996, and would soon blow upon the independent-hip-hop scene. Murs’s first solo album, F’Real, followed a year later. It was just the beginning of a prolific run that would see Murs come into his own as an individual artist and a frequent collaborator, thriving within a close-knit community of friends who also happened to be business associates. By the early 2000s, Murs expanded his fan base by working with Slug from the highly popular indie group
Atmosphere, under the name Felt, and signing with El-P’s Definitive Jux label for two noteworthy albums, one of which was Murs 3:16: The 9th Edition, his first LP working with 9th Wonder, formerly of Little Brother.

Signing to a major label is most likely seen as one big-ass achievement to most folks. But in the critical us-against-the-world world of underground hip-hop, it’s considered blasphemy. So when Murs unexpectedly signed to Warner Bros., in 2007, there was backlash from some of his most-loyal followers, before and after the release of Murs for President.

“People think that I sold out, but fuck them,” says Murs. “Indie rappers, we complain about what’s being said in the mainstream. So when somebody offered me a chance [to get a bigger audience], I asked [Warner], ‘Can I say what I want to say?’ And they said, ‘Yeah.’ So fuck that. This was my chance to get on the radio and compete… I sacrificed my independent career to make a difference in my neighborhood.”

While his intentions might have been good, it didn’t stop the normal, slow-grinding bureaucracy of major-label politics to sour Murs on his decision to join the corporate universe. He soon felt a lack of support, both financially and musically, and after about a year and a half on the label, Murs decided he wanted off. After six months of back-and-forth, Murs was released from his contract and able to resume his independent path.

Tonight’s show at the Highline Ballroom in NYC is an intimate affair. After a solid hour of performing, Murs spends twice as long mingling with fans. “What I do this for is because I love to see people happy,” says Murs.

With the music business as a whole long in the dumps and record stores disappearing, Murs stresses the importance of direct-to-fan relationships. “Accumulating e-mails is like accumulating gold,” he says. “That’s why you see me all about [getting] e-mails, shaking fans’ hands afterwards, giving them product direct… What the fuck I got to pay Best Buy for? You [the artist] pay for [your album to have] that $6.99 sale price. They don’t take the loss themselves. You pay them to take that loss, to get people into their stores. They don’t give a fuck what they lose on records, because they are selling microwaves.

“Still, I have a responsibility to fans that buy physical records,” he continues. “So I feel like I gotta go do this distribution deal [with Fontana/Universal through SMC Recordings, for his latest album, Fornever], but I hate it. There’s so many politics... I have this indie spirit in me. I wanna say, ‘Fuck it,’ and turn my back on it, but it’s about being smart. There’s good people that shop at Best Buy, so I can’t get into the ‘fuck the industry’ mode.”

It’s 1 a.m. Murs has finished shaking hands and answering questions for the night. “For a second, I had a convertible S500 Benz, brand-new, driving around Hollywood, going to after-parties and shit,” he says before heading back to the hotel. “But it wasn’t me, man. It was something I did because people won’t do business with you unless they think you’re doin’ what they’re doin’. But all that shit is empty. I don’t need gold chains. I own property. My property makes money, so that should be able to take care of my family. I’m not tryin’ to be a billionaire. If there’s 3,000 people that will buy my music, that’s enough for me. Because I’m not gonna spend a billion dollars. The culture of greed has put America where it is today. People think, [I want to be] independent so [I] can get this money. I’m thinkin’ independent because I want to do what I want when I want.”

In other words, Murs is cashing in on the American dream: freedom.