aint that the truth. when i hit the record store im usually looking for something thats been out that I didnt have the chance to listen to yet.

He’s ONE of the people that saved hip-hop, you’d know if you actually listened to his music instead of hating on the man just to be cool.

As for being closed minded, how can that be so if they are listening to the new stuff? Isn’t that attempting to connect with it and giving an opinion afterwards?

And yes, a lot of the new cats are rap fans, not Hip Hop heads. They do not live the art, they like the entertainment of the music. Emcees rocking over a beat is only one facet of the CULTURE of Hip Hop.

Drake has enhanced the singing into the new rap. In Hip Hop’s early day it was called HARMONIZING. Go research some Cold Crush, Masterdon & The Funk Committee, and others and see what Drake is doing is nothing new.

A lot of the youngin’s say Drake is wack, a lot of the OG’s say let son prove himself before y’all crown him the KING, like the media was doing. Gimmicks & money? The rappers will tell you “stop hating, I’m getting money”, and start drama for promotion of an album. Most just wanna get paid and care nothing about creating their OWN TYPE OF SOUND, and hope the people like it so they will sell, they are happy with being a carbon copy of the next man who is successful at the moment for a check.

Look at how many people have “freestyled” over ‘BMF’ looking for fame, instead of connecting with one of the thousands of up and coming producers out there and making their OWN ‘BMF’.

And a little more perspective, the youngin’s have had a good lane for years to get on and prosper. A lot of old heads fell back, retired, starting doing other ventures.

So don’t throw too many darts at the OG’s. Cats LIVED Hip Hop. No youtubes, producing programs, downloads, web-streams, websites, even video shows at one time. This is where a lot of creativity came into it. You had to envision it in your mind, because most of the time you couldn’t see it, or the artist. You had to obtain physical contact for a deal, connects, beats, collabos, EVEN RECORDS & TAPES. These days, go 2 a site, see a video, say yay or nay, and by the end of the week you have 300 songs out there, where you CANNOT get a grasp on whether or not all of those songs actually are good or not.

You make some valid points, but I can tell you haven’t lived both sides of the coin to weigh the pros and cons. The new school are y’alls’ peers, tell them to step it up. Support those not in the media shine who are great in their craft. Because the OG’s have years of music to listen to, they don’t necessarily have to buy anything new. And also consider the fact that a lot of OG’s would feel funny bumping a lot of their kids’ music, it’s really not relative to them at their age.

And, it’s easier for y’all with all of this tech stuff, why is the music game going backwards?

And, if you took all of the OG’s out of the game, all of them right now, who would you listen too? Would you even listen to rap music anymore? Think REAL HARD ABOUT THIS.

DUCK DOWN.

All these people complaining about how Hip-Hop is all about the gimmicks and money now, are the ones judging all these kinda dudes on the gimmicks and money, rather than actually listening to their MUSIC, which is what’s actually important, and basing their opinions off of that. Dude’s the most honest MC in the game. You dont like it, cool, then just keep it moving.

Same with “old school” , close-minded heads who claim dudes who like this “new school hip-hop” or “rap” have no idea about “real” or “old school hip-hop”, even if they don’t even know how much the dude might listen to and love the older, more traditional hip-hop. Someone can choose to love BOTH, for the things each bring to the table.

I swear man, these guys are what are stunting hip-hops growth. Music changes and progresses over time. We’ll still have the old stuff, but let’s let some new and original music flourish. That said, of course there’s still plenty of wack music out there.

If it gets into the mainstream it’s instantly deemed crap, for absolutely no valid reason. Grow up, for real, your opinions on MUSIC need serious maturing.

Pardon the rant y’all. Just venting frustration on these ignorant, close-minded fools.

^ I was saving that dart for one who retorted with some nonsense.

Glad to see the Hip Hop heads come out and stop some of this nonsense that be going on with some of the great OG’s.

Now off to that Ghost thread…

Co-sign.

Premier is one the best producers in hip-hop history, ands down. Dude has blessed everyone from Krs-one to Fat Joe to Jay-Z to Snoop to Bun B.And he makes everyone sound dope! anyone who disagrees with this just proves you are ignorant to hip hop history. I would love to hear dude produce a Drake or J-Cole track. You know that shot would be dope as fuck. Besides just his Gang Starr output, dude’s resume is just sick.

Case in point- Grouphome who were 2 subpar rappers put a 90s era classic based off Primo’s ill beats. Them niggaz rhymes were def not the reason everyone was bumpin that album. If you can make the cats on your shit sound better than they really are, thats some Michael Jordan shit right there.