Why Are Rappers Scared to Rap? – What the Game’s Been Missing

“You wanna battle?”

Lakers vs. Celtics. Yankees vs. Red Sox. Ohio State vs. Michigan. Mention these teams in the same sentence and you’re bound to get people excited. These rivalries generate a certain buzz and draw extreme levels of passion out of their fans. A couple of months ago, the NBA finals between the Lakers and Celtics was the most watched finals since the Jordan era. It’s safe to say that a battle between rivals creates excitement.

The real reason why hip-hop has become so stale is because the passion is gone. People just make music to make money. I’m pretty sure T.I didn’t make “Whatever You Like” and say, “This song is really going to impress my peers.” Nobody is trying to show that they’re better on the mic than somebody else. The only way to put the passion back into music, and hip-hop more specifically, is for artists to start battling!

Hip-hop could have gotten very interesting a few months back. Game went on a tirade concert after concert screaming obscenities at Jay-Z. Fans joined in his anti-Jay-Z chants. Now call me crazy, but could you ever imagine somebody doing that to 2Pac? I’d bet my life savings (which isn’t much) that 2Pac would respond. Everybody always reminisces about the 90’s and the good ol’ days in rap. It’s because rappers were competitive and wouldn’t let you play them for a punk. “Oh, Jay shouldn’t respond; he’s bigger and better than Game.” Are you kidding me? His verses on “Run This Town” were about as lackluster as it gets. A battle with Game surely would’ve made Hova step it up a little.

Eminem just recently confessed that he almost dissed Kanye West and Lil Wayne. I say go for it. Imagine the best-selling rapper of all time battling the most popular rapper of today. I’m positive a battle of that magnitude would have millions interested. Eminem spends a lot of time on Recovery saying how nobody will step to him or challenge him. Mr. Shady, I don’t see you exactly lighting MC up on record. This guy made his way into the game by battling. His biggest battles were with Benzino, Fred Durst and Ja Rule.

Seriously… Benzino.

Maybe beating Wayne in a battle would finally get you the respect you complain about never receiving. Oh, no! If he battled Wayne we would have never heard the classic collaboration that is “No Love(sarcasm).

I’m calling out all rappers. Make us excited again. Make us debate for hours who had the better diss record. Please, no more talk about record sales. I don’t care if you sell more records than Michael Jackson. Prove to me you’re better than someone. Let me hear you actually prove on record that you’re better. Make us call into radio stations and buy magazine covers again. Make us pick sides. Most importantly, make us, the fans, care again. I’m not calling for full-out warfare and for people to get violent; just show us why you’re the best.

Nas once said, “Everybody sound the same/Commercialized the game/Reminiscing when it wasn’t all business.” I couldn’t put it any better. Bring the passion back and try to be the best at what you do. If you have to step on a few toes and hurt some feelings to do it, please do. We will be very grateful. —Evan F. Lancia

  • Sha

    I swear these Guest Bloggers just keep getting worse and worse. Now we’re complaining about some white boy not dissing Lil’ Wayne. Oh no! Let me get on my period and write about it! Whaaaa! Whaaaa! Dumb bitch, go make some food and then slit your wrists in a bath tub.

    • Sha

      You’re not me, fag.

    • Uptown

      it is quite obvious that you have nothing better to do.. make some food and slit your wrists.. if u have nothing positive to say shut up you A-P!!

    • williano from ct

      you big shout outs to evan f lancia

      great peace. your 100percent right

      http://www.myspace.com/willianosantoro 4 new songs up

    • Randall Graves

      Sha,

      you are the reason why I hate people, (yet I love gatherings, isn’t ironic?) why don’t you slip back into the pathetic existence you call a life, get a clue. your finger is so far off the pulse. Say would you like a chocolate covered preztel?

      BONG

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Powerslave

    Check it, you know how I be
    Last week Kobe couldn’t do it without me…

    • Sha

      Christ almighty. Now we’ve got this douchebag empowering the ideals of slavery with his shitty name. PLEASE SOMEBODY SHUT DOWN THESE BLOGS. I can’t take this shit any more. Every fucking day I get on here to comment on things and assholes always have to write things that I don’t approve of.

      • Randall Graves

        Hey Sha

        I think your post is hysterical, but only because of the reason of how you complain about coming on everday to comment only to read things you don’t like. If it wasn’t for Blogs you would have nothing to do with your life. you sound like such an uneducated fool. Obviously if your views were so astonishing they would publish you, yet… they don’t. So while your biggest achievment in life is blasting people on their blogs and comments, the person who wrote this will probably go on to graduate college and be succesful. Good Article, good points, but no one will ever out sell Michael that guy had more passion than anyone.

  • lick shotz

    finna bust 1 all ova ya momma face

    what u gonna do about it fuck nigga? nothing? ya thought so

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    • Freddie

      Uh Never Mind I Actually Read It
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  • Anonymous

    real talk feeling the blog, I would bet my savings too (which are significant) that, the competitive nature of the game will be brought back by intense rivalry put the G back in the game.

  • that nigga

    Nice blog, man. I voted XXL. I couldnt agree more, these rappers afe faggots and just want a pay day, bring the passion back. This is why I will always respect Nas. Fuck sales, hes the best, battlin’, story-tellin, true lyrical ability.

    • smarten up

      nas

    • Anonymous

      I agree wit u man. He is my fav of all time

  • Illmatic to infinity

    I would have to agree Nas is the best …the blog is pretty good

  • How would you rate Evan F. Lancia’s guest blog?

    S

    • smoke weed

      lol

    • Anonymous

      Co-sign to the fullest this shit was weakness in a can.

  • Sean Haywood

    At the time, Ja Rule was the biggest rapper in the game. He and 50 single-handedly almost shut down a whole label. Benzino is the editor of the SOURCE-THE LARGEST RAP MAgazine. he took on a corporation. That is why he is bred for battle. Cannibus backed down from Em. that would have been Epic

  • http://myspace.com/crooksda1 Crooks

    Big UP to Nas, The Greatest of All Time!

    Whenever you get a chance, visit myspace.com/crooksda1. Peace!

  • like where are u yeezy

    need to take a shit ima print up this blog so i got sumn to wipe with

  • JFLYnn EASTPG

    i think this blog brings up a valid point. How fun would it be if people actually battled on the reg.

  • BEEF

    WE NEED BEEF! BUT ON RECORDS NOT SOME BULLSHIT LIKE FIFTY ON.
    BIGGIE TUPAC SHIT (HOPEFUL Y NOT WITH THE SAME OUTCOME.
    R.I.P TO OTH THEM

  • THEONE

    good blog lil nigga …niggas needa start battlin for real none of this gay pimpin curly shit

  • TicNitty1

    Competition is very healthy for hip hop it was on of the building stones of the culture. I would luv to hear some genuine rap beef but there’s a thinline we must be aware of. We do not want it to spill over into anything physical and for it to get too personal and ignorant.

    Rappers scared to step on each other toes now because everyone is collabing to stay “hot” or some s–t. I remember when hip hop was more regional and when the line was crossed to collab it was out of pure respect and not for a “hot” track. And if cats (especially NY) thought you were wack or weak they would call you out or not mess with you at all.

    F–k all this lets be friends with every rapper ish, I get tired of very talented rappers shouting out bum ass rappers I know they do not dig musically. Hip Hop needs its nutts back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ruthlesslikethelabel

      you hit it right on the head. Why the fuck they gotta collab all the time fuck all that. The collabs suck too. And I gave this blog an XXL just cuz u called out Jay-Z for that bitch shit he pulled not responding to the game .

  • REALEST

    gave it an xxl well written bruh

  • chriss

    i agree! but dont call out eminem, he dosent need to prove anything to anybody, he can shit on any rapper lyriclly

  • Rap24

    Why wont Em battle anybody? I bet he doesnt want to sit around and listen to rappers diss his daugther.Who wants to here that? As for Jay Z and The game,jay is a buisness man with money on his mind,he is too “BIG” for beef shit.

  • ThatDude

    Hip hop also wasn’t as corny as it is now back when Pac and them was doing it, nobody beef’d just to make a name for themselves or sell records, not to say that method wasn’t being used back then but the battling held more integrity than it does now. Thanks to 50 and others cats think the move to get the hype machine behind them is to name drop Hov, wait for a response, and no you are magically selling records and it creates a buzz for you just off the sheer fact that Jay mentioned your name. Game is a sucka and all he has ever done is try to bait Hov, then flip and teabag him on the next song or interview so that whole mention of that was retarded as it holds no weight. Battling should be more than just a clever marketing ploy, well clever only in the eyes of those lacking a brain…it should be about the competition, it should have some meaning behind it a la KRS-One/MC Shan…Biggie/Pac…Ja/50…Nas/Jay…even TI/Luda they all had a solid foundation to the beefs and battles thus making them memorable in their own ways but these dudes nowadays don’t even understand the craft of making the music let alone competing.

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    Yo! the blog was a good subject and great title but not written well.

    as for jayz and battling. dude has already battled several times. you can’t throw rocks at the thrown. he doesn’t have anything to prove plus its too many up and coming rappers who try to use it as a gimic.

    as for his verse on run this town. i think u have to open your mind and listen to what he’s saying and not just the words because words actually have meaning.

    as for em, em wouldn’t want it with ye. wayne maybe cause wayne has never battled. ye has punches tho and plus he’s popular. yea em is popular BUT he has never crossed the darkside.

    as for battles, hip hop needs them. However, youngins need to do it. it should be a prerequiste for rap. like before u get a deal or put out a single u should have gone thru the battle ciruit.

    on the same note, just because u battle don’t mean u can make a song.

    • Anonymous

      Kanye slay Eminem, maaaaaaaan come on son.Dont be A RETARD.

    • El Tico Loco

      as for em, em wouldn’t want it with ye
      ^^^^^^
      In a beat making battle maybe. Ye wouldn’t even co sign what you said.

  • Blue

    As you say in the article,Em made it through years of battle other rappers,so why the fuck would he do that now? He doesnt have anything to prove.I bet he is tired of all the beefs and battle shit he`s been through over the years.Let these new cats battle each other,they are the ones who have something to prove,not veteran rappers like Jay,Em,Rakim,Nas and so on.

  • Pierzy

    I am inclined to agree with you, but it’s a double-edged sword. Every time 50 “challenges” someone, what does everyone say? “He’s just doing it to promote albums!” Battles are at the heart of hip-hop, but it’s rare that it happens in mainstream…mainly because a battle is not the same as a diss. Sometimes a diss can become a battle, but it’s not guaranteed.

    To me, if Em had gone at Kanye & Wayne, it would’ve been clear that he was just jealous and begging for attention, as he admitted. These things need to happen organically or, at least, have a reason behind them. Nas & Jay wrote lines directed at each other years before 2001. 50 & Ja had a history long before it became Shady vs. Murder Inc. Even when two rappers with skills go at it (Budden vs. Saigon), most people simply yawn and move on.

    If you have a real reason (or at least think you do) to go at somebody, then go 100%; but, if you’re just doing it for attention or to promote an album, come up with a new gimmick.

    Pierzy’s rating: M

    • NAPTOWNNUISANCE

      Preach

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      +1

      Whaddup P?

      • Pierzy

        My man…what’s good?

        I’m just grinding on the corporate side and shaking my head when I read some of this -ish-

        • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

          Word. Been plenty of smh comments the past 2 weeks…

  • scarface666

    all you ppl are jealous, becaue u couldn’t get your blog online! suckers!!!!!! go eat shit.. nice blog and well written. peace out

  • http://www.xxlmag.com slicc10

    battle isn’t the only way to spark the artist. The consumers have to demand higher quality work. Reasonable Doubt and Illmatic were classic albums yet how long after their release did they go platinum? We have to shift the focus off of club bangers to the records that make you push that rewind button. Hip hop is now a business and what good for the art isn’t always what’s good for sales. Listen to D’evils which isn’t a diss record but is ill and compare that to anything Run this Town.

  • yoprince

    once ja rule lost his entire brand in the blink of an eye to 50 cent, the stakes were raised too high for any already successful rapper to risk battling.

  • Star

    Em didnt respond to benzinos first diss,but when benzino did another,Em went in the studio and destroyed the bitch with 2 great songs.After that,no one has tested him(although mariah made a weak attempt and got buried with The Warning)Im sure if a good rapper dissed Em,he would respond

  • El Tico Loco

    Beef and battling are two different things, Beef is a cry for attention at least in hip hop it is since half of the beefs nowaday are between people that usually never met and be whining like bitches on Youtube. A battle is straight up competition whether it be face to face mic to mic, or thru records not necessarily dis records but going for the dopest lyrics, beats or whatever. Some crews used to compete against each other for the hottest verse at the end we ended up having some of the hottest songs ever (think Triumph or the Symphony) I don’t care if these rappers are wack but damn if you roll with these niggas stop being enablers. Friends don’t let friends rhyme wack.

  • GIFT

    THIS BLOGGER OBVIOUSLY HAS NOT BEEN WIT YALL (xxl) TOO LONG. EMINEM WILL BODY JUST ABOUT ANYBODY YOU BRING TO HIM ON THAT BATTLE TIP. hELL HE SHITTED ON CANIBUS, BUT YOU TALKIN RULE AND BENZINO? JUST LIKE ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS READ, BENZINO RAN THE SOURCE, WHICH WAS THE BIGGEST HIPHOP MAG AT ONE POINT, RULE AND MURDER WERE MAKING HIT AFTER HIT, AND THEN EM’S ASS COMES ALONG AND KILLS BOTH ENTITIES, AND TO TOP IT OFF, HE’S A WHITE BOY. iT DOESN’T MATTER TO ME, BUT I KNOW THE GENRE AS A WHOLE MAY LOOK AT ASPECT STRONGLY IN THIS ARGUMENT. EM WOULD DEVOUR WAYNE, WHICH IS PROBABLY Y HE WON’T WASTE TIME BATTLING HIM, BUT i THINK EM AND KANYE BEEF WOULD BE A BIT MORE INTERESTING. AS LONG AS HIPHOP BEEF STAYS HIPHOP, AND DOESN’T GO PAST THAT, THEN IT’S ALL GOOD TO ME. LETS BRING THE ELEMENTS OF THE CULTURE BACK TO THE FOREFRONT. FUCK SOME SWAG. THAT WORD IN ADDITION TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER COONING, IS FUCKIN HIP HOP UP.

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  • DV8

    “I’m calling out all rappers. Make us excited again. Make us debate for hours who had the better diss record. Please, no more talk about record sales. I don’t care if you sell more records than Michael Jackson. Prove to me you’re better than someone. Let me hear you actually prove on record that you’re better. Make us call into radio stations and buy magazine covers again. Make us pick sides. Most importantly, make us, the fans, care again. I’m not calling for full-out warfare and for people to get violent; just show us why you’re the best.”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^this shit right here

  • GIFT

    OH AND ANOTHER THING. JAY-Z WILL ALWAYS HAVE MY RESPECT AS A VERY TALENDTED MC AND BUSINESS MAN, BUT NIGGA GET THE PUSSY OUT YA GRILL AND GET AT BEANS. GAME N JIGGA WOULD GET BORING AFTER WHILE, BUT JIG N BEANS? CLASSIC BATTLE FOR HIP HOP.

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    i totally cosing piezry. rap battles have to be natural. as stated, jay and nas been throwing shuts at one another and they are ane were at the top of the game. most peoples top five will have those two vets. IMO jayz won that battle. nas isn’t a battle rapper. he is the best lyricist BUT EHTER had a nice beat but the punches and lines wre not tough. him callin jayz d*(k sucking lips talkin bout jay using taebo was like gay. Nas, got killed at smmer jam. the verse on take over and super ugly was just a k.o.

    sorry to bring it up but that was hip hop’s last great battle.

    why should jay get at beans? beans is a turncoat. dude has talent and jayz gave him all the oppurtunity in the world.

    • El Tico Loco

      Jay Z’s life may have ended up better than Nas but you can’t possibly say Nas didn’t have the better song. Nas flipped a few lyrics from Takeover and threw them back at Jay and you say he’s not a battle rapper? He stated facts though the whole song, threw in a little wordplay in it too(I rock hoes ya’ll rock fellas)isn’t that how you handle a battle? Superugly was just that, below the belt if you ask me. Jay went at Prodigy and Nas hiding behind his money, that’s what a lot rappers do now and is a sign of weakness, but I digress. People forget that Nas freestyling over the paid in full remix beat and killed Jay and the roc on that “Rip the Freeway shoot thru Memphis with money bags stop in philly order cheesesteaks and eat the Beans fast and bring it back up top remove the fake King of New York” oh yeah “H to the Izzo M to Izzo for shizzle you phone the rap version of Sisqo” What? But he’s not a battle rapper. c’mon son.

      • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

        Here’s what I don’t understand…

        The Roc crew said it was a sad day in the studio when ‘Ether’ dropped and they heard it. Jay said it himself it hit home. Jay was on Angie’s show and couldn’t talk about it. Jay’s mom made him apologize for ‘Super Ugly’. To this day people said you got ethered, not takeovered, or super uglied.

        How did Jay win that battle?

        • DV8

          exactly…..people looking at Jay’s success and come to the conclusion that he won (on the song “Success” Nas had the better verse and took another subliminal shot at Jay on that as well)

  • Eddie Blanco

    Battle rapping is great as long as it’s real. Not some dumb shit. Ja Rule and 50′s beef was real, Nas and Jay-Z shit was real. For years I’d always wondered how come them two never made a song together, well shit was really going on behind the scenes. Battle rapping is what made hip hop. It’s what turns a rapper into an real MC. But it can also bring horror, as we all saw with 2pac and Big. Two great rappers who we’re both killed over some dumb shit. But a battle song also has to be great. Hit em Up would have been great if it was just Pac, Either was great because Nas broke down everything about Hov, but Takeover was also great because it’s a song that really got under Nas’s skin. But Nas came back, dropped Either, blinded Hov where he than made Super Ugly witch was Super Wack, and the rest is history, but in the end the loser of that battle later on became the winner. Hip Hop needs it then it doesn’t. As long as it’s real it will become great, if not it’ll just become a dud.

  • Blitz

    Oh my God! This is why I don’t really get on this site.
    Yall niggas be trippin’.
    Get off that hate shit.
    This supposed to be a board for opinions and discussion. Instead, niggas can’t say anything without the hateful venom people spit.
    Niggas callin’ people pussys, tellin niggas to eat dicks, niggas spittin’ racism, niggas stealing other people’s screen names.
    Yall jokesters be dumber than that stupid nigga Bol.

    • Kunt Stabba

      Fuck nigga u pussy always been pussy always gon be pussy SEE ME BITCH NIGGA.

  • KLETEWOOD

    Wayne said it best on the Carter 2. I think it was song 7.

    Anyway….these niggas wanna battle for free. Why the fuck would someone like Jay Z who made $69 million last year (thats $25,000 an hour if you do the math on a 60 hour work week). Its not worth his time even if he gets more credibility.

    DO THE MATH.

  • M. Baby!

    Yo, from now on I’m only listening to Hov, Jeezy, T.i., Ye, and underground rap: JCole, Big Krit, and a few others… this new Hip-Hop shit is wack. N*ggaz don’t really rap anymore…they just make radio singles. Everybody’s so focused on being a big star, trying to blow up quick, and being a major artist, but where’s the art form at??? Just a bunch of f*cking copy cats!

  • El Tico Loco

    Anyway….these niggas wanna battle for free. Why the fuck would someone like Jay Z who made $69 million last year (thats $25,000 an hour if you do the math on a 60 hour work week). Its not worth his time even if he gets more credibility.
    ^^^^^^
    That’s a sorry excuse to get out of a battle if you’re getting challenged and nothing’s at stake, Shit! go for it. You it said Weezy and Jay are making their money even as we speak so what’s a few rounds gonna hurt? They ain’t on no clock and definitely not hurting either. Obviously the niggas challenging them are not counting their (Jay or Weezy’s) money they just wanna go bar for bar with them. How can you be king without going to war and defending the crown? That’s exactly what’s wrong with hip hop now, sad to say but is kinda like a plantation comfort mentality, everybody scared to make waves and lose their shit. Think of how Mayweather keep stalling Pacquiao, if you lose you lose don’t be a pussy about it.

    • KLETEWOOD

      We’ll said dude….

      If the rappers are on common ground (like Weezy and Jay for instance) its all gravy.

      What I meant was….if some “no-name” rapper wanted to battle with Jay….or….Weezy, they wouldn’t really give a shit.

      But…if Jay and Weezy were to battle…like Mayweather and Pacquiao, everyone would tune in for that shit. That shit would be fire.

      Winner goes head to head with EM. Ahhhh shit.

  • turnitup

    i completely agree with the blog. todays rappers are too gimmicky. i dont care what you look like, what you wear, where you’re from…just give me scorching lyrics and the absolute truth and im all ears all the time

  • Jerm

    The way I see it, is every rapper says theyre the best alive, or almost everyone of them. So why not show us why you are? That’s why I was surprised with the whole Joe Budden vs Wu shit, cuz I felt bar for bar, at this moment, Budden could beat Redman…but no one on the other end was willing to prove it or back shit up. Competition brings the best out of everyone, but everyone feels since theyre the best they dont need to compete.

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      “Joe Budden vs Wu shit, cuz I felt bar for bar, at this moment, Budden could beat Redman METHOD MAN…”

      ^ fixed

      Now what’s amazing is Budden was sending hella shots @ Rae, but wouldn’t go at Lil B…

      • El Tico Loco

        After Saigon, and Jay Z is obvious Budden is into real comp.

        • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

          LOLZ

  • Teddy

    why do u idiots get mad at ppl making music to make money its a fuckin career its a business if they dont make money no one hears any of their other songs that have greater meaning

    • Stop Skimming and Read

      The blog about competitiveness, if you go after the competition money will follow. The songs you say that are “for money” are not making money. You seen Soundscan lately? Who’s really making money except em and he’s a spitta.

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    jay won because each line was better. jay inspired nas to go hard. lets start with jayz verse on mind right remix. nas had a response on some ol school beat and took some shots on got yourself a gun. jay killed him on takeover.

    YeS it clear that Nas went in the booth and came up with his best effort on ether. that song is for the media. it sounds good but break down every line.

    super ugly, the beat. the condom on your baby seat. that ish really happened.

    nas didn’thave that many hard lines…nas had a crazy beat and amazing hook.

    look at ll cool j vs canibus. come on, canibus killed LL but ll’s legacy won that.

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      ‘Bus ate L’s food. But Clef f^Xed up the momentum.

      I disagree that ‘Ether’ was for the media. It was a proper Hip Hop battle song aimed at Jay.

      As for the hard lines, I hear and see more people quoting ‘Ether’ than Jay’s 2 songs.

      And it would be foolish to not think Nas had dirt on Jay too.

      $yk

    • El Tico Loco

      To say Takeover had harder lines than Ether is LAAAAAAME!

      Nas handled that correctly, and Superugly had a lot of low blows, but what else would you do when up against the wall. The thing with Ether is that everything Nas said on that still remains a fact “Oh think you think you get girls now cuz of your looks?” and he is wack compared to Beans to this day. He did get murdered by Em on his own shit. Really how many more of Biggie Rhymes will come out of his fat lip? So he broke Jay down, took Jay’s rhymes flipped them against him “JJ evans get done up and clapped quick …” Clowned him “No mustache having whiskers like a rat” Styled on him “Name a rapper that I ain’t influenced” let’s not mention the unorthodox style he did to that beat which is hard to follow and the beginning tells the shit was gonna be epic, if you ever battled you would know how textbook that shit was done.

      • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

        “and Superugly had a lot of low blows, but what else would you do when up against the wall.”

        ^ word

        So beyond the baby-seat line, who remembers or quotes any lines from Jay’s 2 songs?

  • http://www.xxl.com daw’ud gibbs

    two words young gunz b2b!!!! yall need to bring them up to the stu!!!!!!!!

  • 33shots

    Seriously? I mean I understand what you’re saying but going after Em for not dissing Wayne is stupid. First of all any non-dickrider posting will admit that Wayne couldnt win a battle against Em. Second of all I think if Pac had lived long enough to mature he wouldn’t go after some poor lyricist like the Game. I seriously feel you though I want to hear Hit ‘Em Up and Ether again but it doesn’t feel the same if its against someone like Wayne and the Game. Just my opinion.

  • bullets

    IDK I AGREE WITH JAYZ FUK WACK RAPPERS I WOULDNT BATTLE A CORNY NIGGA LIKE GAME EITHER….STRAIGHT UP AND ON SOME GANSTA SHIT HIP HOP IS NOT WHAT THESE NEW NIGAS IS APART OF IT’S MORE LIKE WHEN THE GUY FROM LINKIN PARK DECIDES HE WANTS TO WRITE A RHYME THIS IS ALTERNATIVE POP BS HIP HOP HAS STRETCHED OUT AND MADE MONEY NOW THE PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO IT ARENT FROM OUR CULTURE SO THEIR OPINIONS ON WHAT A GOOD SONG IS IS VERY DIFFERENT THATS WHY KID CUDI AND DRAKE AND THEM DUDES ARE SO POPULAR COME ON IMAGINE THE MIND SET OF THE PERSON THAT GREW UP ON REASONABLE DOUBT AND ILLMATIC AS OPPOSED TO THE ONE WHO GREW UP ON CASHMONEY AND NO LIMIT….IN REALITY THERE IS NO HIP HOP JUST PEOPLE HOLDING ON TO WHAT USED TO BE AND PEOPLE RUNNING WITH THE NEW BS THEY’RE GETTING PRAISED FOR ……….

  • Q461

    50 cent and Ja Rule forever changed the hip hop battle. 50 doesnt go at niggaz on a lyrical tip most times, he pulls bullshit pranks and skits and stunts. It’s entertaining but that shit ain’t hip-hop, plus since he has a problem with almost EVERYONE in the industry, he singlehandedly played out the ” battle” in rap. Too much beef, so cats started working together on tracks, which I like as well. Love hearing interesting collabos…but I agree, we need to hear niggaz go at it like Joe Buddens and Saigon a few years back, that shit was crazy. Can’t see Jay-Z ever battling anyone again,he throws bullshit subliminals months after someone calls him out…thats kinda cool sometimes, but Jay shoulda went at Beans…he comes off like a pussy not saying shit. So I’m split, I say bring back the good battles but keep working together on new joints too.

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      “50 doesnt go at niggaz on a lyrical tip most times, he pulls bullshit pranks and skits and stunts.”

      ^ didn’t Jay pull a stunt w/Prodigy and the ballerina photo @ SummerJam?

  • http://dothisinmysleep.com Serisony

    Nah, these days there is lanes for everything. If you want to see battle rappers, go watch Grind Time or Ultimate Rap League. That battling on wax shit is corny these days. At least in those lanes you have a clear count of how many battles won, how many battles lost, judges and all that. With the rap game it’s different, I mean some people still think Jay-Z won the battle with Nas, because everyone has a different opinion. I think going the route you want artist to take is dangerous and reckless and there isn’t any reason for it, their job on a major label is to make compelling, relatable, marketable songs. Substance and concepts are needed for those things.

    Take T.I.’s “I’m back” WHO is he talking about? Is it a fake person made up in his head that he is battling, or is it Shawty Lo, AlphMega, etc. ? Do either one of those names interest you? That’s probablythe reason why he doesn’t say any names. But let’s take T.I. and put him in a acapella battle at Grind TIme, and he’s going to lose, i.e. Cassidy vs Freeway.

    There’s different lanes for ALL rappers, just stay in your lane.

  • Q461

    That was one incident nigga its not the same, look at 50′s bullshit…besides baiting cats then backing away.Weezy,Master P, Hov (on that Beanie track) T.I, etc etc he makes bullshit skits going at Fat Joe and Rick Ross….that prank call to Shyne, you can go on and on. To be honest his best actual diss track came out YEARS ago and thats Back Down going at Ja… IMO…

    Besides nigga, Hov followed that stunt with a crazy diss record the takeover going at mobb deep and nas so get your shit right homey before you try and chalenge my opinion.

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      Relax yo, it a discussion. I pointed out that Jay pulled a shenanigan on Prodigy, a couple of years before 50 was even relevant in the game. Yeah he stunted then put out the music, but he still stunted.

      Nas was gonna do it too, but they didn’t want him to sh^t on Jay like that at SummerJam ’02.

      But neither of them do sh^t like how 50 does.

  • Q461

    Just felt like u was challenging what I said…no disrespect…. but yeah nigga 50′s antics are ridiculous….they are funny don’t get me wrong…but if he went at someone on wax and lyrically murdered em that would impress me more, thats hip-hop. He can save the interview jabs, skits, and prank calls, he shouldn’t feel Shyne is that much beneath him that he ain’t worth his time on wax, that kinda attitude is wack, Hov also…Joey puts out out this whole song addressing him and all Jay says back is “tell you ordinary Joes to Budden up”…. thats corny, man up and get on the mic.

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      I used to couldn’t wait to get twisted and watch them ‘Pimpin’ Curly’ episodes…that n^gga need to do a sitcom or something with that character.

      But you’re right about the attitude thing.

      Competition is a part of life, even actors compete in movies to show who’s better. N^ggaz is competing on the block for custies. Churches are competing for followers. The rap game is no different.

  • Mic WooD

    I dont kno if niggas gonna read this but it 50 flut that no one wants to beef, because no matter what anybody says 50 ended JaRules carrer. And now nigga is really scard , cuz they think if they lose a battle they lose the money too. Real rap

    Mic WooD

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    i agree with that comment that people think jayz won. i know a lot of dudes and dudettes that say jigga won.

    the 2 hot albums in six years dis jay z handled alot of people on takeover.

    ether had too many no homo lines before no homo. those aren’t diss. they weren’t funny and they weren’t all that. like the getting girls because of your looks…negro please. number one jayz got nas girl. number 2 why comment on a man’s looks? dude talked about him working out. his lips and etc. and you call that a good diss? dude used word play with cock a fella and rocafella. i pop hoes yall pop fellas. come on, look at nas past and present run ins with women.

    super ugly was jayz takin the gloves off. regardless of the baby mama drama…the fact that he said he has more shooters in queens bridge and opening a beer bottle off his chip tooth.

    like dude said, its people who love the lakers and people who love the celts.

    50 is a major reason battles don’t extist. he took it off wax. 50 really pimped the game in so many ways.

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      Hol’ up double f…

      You can’t overlook the intangibles of Ross, yet start using intangibles on Nas…you understand what I’m saying…

      “50 is a major part of the reason battles don’t extist.”

      ^ cause cats don’t wanna be “that guy”. They know he’s there to pull that card.

      Another reason is a lot of these cats ain’t got the skills to win a battle.

      Thanks y’all for having a good rap discussion discussion today, I enjoyed it.

      $yk

  • Ay Ta Z

    Great blog I always think the same. It seems like artists don’t even beef for competition anymore just for people to give them attention (50)

    The best battle in a while has been Saigon/Buddens and that went on for like a week or some shit like that haha And it’s fucking annoying how rappers talk about how hard they are but when another rapper challenges them, they act like there above it… Beef is a part of hip-hop! No rapper/whatever the fuck you are is bigger than their profession

    Remember when Big dissed Premo on his own beat lol that won’t ever happen again

  • Anonymous

    Co muthafuckin sign

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    Yo don i’m saying 50 made it less about skills. ross won the battle that never really happened because he used skills verses gimics.

    no, no battle today features skills. joe buddens will go in and try and keep it on wax but get a black eye. i bet the black eyed peas can serve most “hard” mcs out there in a battle

    even in the battle circuit, battles today are fixed. plus, they all pre written and almost pre scripted.

    as for nas and jayz. nas got so many people hype because jayz woke him up. However, ether was like nas throwing a few haymakers. it was a flash of what nas should be and could be doing his entire career. again, listen to nas’s disses and what he is talkin about. and what really went down.

    like he’s calling jay gay yet talks about him eatin foxy and jay and AI banged his girl. come on son.

  • Malik

    Have you people listened to Ether recently? The entire song is Nas making gay jokes. Fuck is he, 4 years old?

    Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he write

    Off of Blueprint2, better than ANYTHING Nas said. But then again no one listens to lyrics, they just like punchlines that 4 year old kids would make.

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    Dapz Malik.
    read between the lines. i will not lie when the beat from Ether drops, it hits sooo hard. but the song is a walking contradiction. nas was on the ropes and he swung with open hands.

    • http://www.bboycult.com Don mcCaine

      “Have you people listened to Ether recently? The entire song is Nas making gay jokes.”

      ^ hinting on the DL rumor that has followed Jay for years.

      Let’s not skip over the fact that he shares a condo with a dude.

  • scareface666

    jealous people are so useless.. haha

  • http://rebel2society.blogspot.com rebel2society

    People handing out XXL’s like faucet water. Damn ya’ll smh… I’m sorry but while there were some good points made in this post a lot of it seemed too biased. Eminem stepped it up to higher level than any artist in recent memory when it comes to lyrics flow and wordplay. So what if he didn’t go at anyone else? He kept the attention on HIS music. I do agree that artists have lost their backbones though. In the past it was so much more competitive and I DO miss that. The issue isn’t with the artists though, far from it in my opinion. The issue lies with the FANS as they dictate what’s acceptable and what’s not. I know a handful of lesser known artists have gone at some of ‘big cats’ in the game with more than enough skill to warrant a response. Yet, all I hear from the fans are “how many records did he sell? He doesn’t have an album out? Oh such and such shouldn’t waste their time.” WTF? Come on now THAT’S what’s wack with today’s hip hop.

  • Nick

    Sha….You got some issues man I think you need some counseling…To help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you be down some. No one could’ve said it better than that, “White Boy”, Eminem. If you can criticize a guest blogger, then you should write an article to counter it. Except I’m pretty sure you can’t use the words Wha Wha, which I’m not sure who would use in the first place, or slitting wrists in a bathtub.

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  • Smoke poundzzzz

    U ruined it! U fucking ruined it!

  • Sha

    Stop it!

  • Sha

    None of these closet cases are me, please stop these dickheads from using other peoples names or I swear I’m never coming back to your website. I have written in to you guys on dozens of occasions and never gotten so much as a single reply, am I not good enough for you or something? Fuck this.

  • BeerGangsta

    Damn lol whats going on?

  • LAPD

    lol
    on the real though this nigga nas tried to go up against jay z then jay z was his boss

    full on ho-ishness

    nas officially lost