Stop Hatin’

For the most part I enjoy New York. There’s a lot to do in a relatively small area, the influx of immigrants has resulted in a melting pot of multiculturalism and the city tends to get things before any other in the country. As with Los Angeles it does have its shortcomings, but at this point I’ve all but fully supplanted my longtime home out West for the Rotten Apple.

As such, I’m exposed to a faster and at times more hostile way of life, but since I live here now I’ve since become accustomed to it (usually via staying away from most industry-related anything) although I may have lost a bit of my sanity and my already short fuse gotten that much shorter. In that sense, though, I can show more support to other folks who aren’t from New York when they pop up around these parts.That’s more than what I can say for native New Yorkers, who seem to dislike any and everything “foreign” to them, proclaiming that hip hop is dead because it’s been engulfed in “champagne, gang initiations and skinny jeans three years ago.” Rather than either accept or try to understand that societies change as often as the weather, New York will host a rapster then boo the ever-loving shit out of him in one breath.

It’s an example of why hip hop will always be looked upon by others as and inferior style of music: its fans’ own self-degrading nature. Rather than look at the advances the culture has made, its fan will claim that it’s losing its identity. As it’s gotten more popular, others have taken the music into their own hands and molded their own variations of it. Whether or not it is actually good depends on the ear of the listener, but rather than accept that there are musical styles that just aren’t the preferred type for everyone we’ll snap on it and denounce it. Look, I know that “MTV Riff Raff” is not for me but there are folks in this dimension who will say it’s the greatest thing out now. Who am I to convince them that I feel it’s the audio equivalent of the Human Centipede?

It has less to do with “hatin’” and more to deal with immaturity. I’ve stated a few times that hip hop is a young man’s sport, and the only place where unless you’re a Carter or a Combs you’re not allowed to age. Being unwilling to accept change begets immaturity, and we’re some of the most stubborn folks in music. Perhaps if hip hop fans at the very least tried to understand (if not entirely embraced) it we wouldn’t have asinine posts like the one you just finished reading.

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  • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

    “Perhaps if hip hop fans Meka at the very least tried to understand (if not entirely embraced) it we wouldn’t have asinine posts like the one you just finished reading.”

    ^

    I don’t know who you hang out with, but it seems like you need some new homies. Maybe you should convo with some of them OGs you throw darts at.

  • Chris

    Despite whether change takes place or not, the core element of hip hop is the edgy, raw, soul filled sound. That doesn’t exist now a days because the core audience listening fails to acknowledge its past. Granted, times changes, innovation occurs, but the “core” sound, that element that makes hip hop what it is, is gone. You have someone like Drake, who can rap pretty decent, but he’s mainly a singer, and hes being declared the #1 MC in the game?? 10 years ago you would’ve been laughed at for even mentioning him on the same playing field. You even said it yourself, “This MTV Riff Raff isn’t for you.

    But it seems the content, which used to be about raw personal experience and struggle, has been replaced with this chase for mass appeal. Its the blending of genres and calling it hip hop. Fans now a days care about record sales the 1st week, and they dont even purchase the record. They like hearing dance music in the club. If you want to do club music go do and listen to club music. But if you wanna listen to hip hop, listen to hip hop. If thats what your interest is, thats fine…but leave hip hop alone.

    • Dan

      ^^^Youre the type of person this editorial is talking about Chris. Quit talking about ten years ago its never gonna be like that again and will enver come back. Move the fuck on. Yea the 90′s were great…we wont have that again so honestly if you cant evolve with hip hop, its you that should leave it alone not any of the new crowd. Before you bash me I listen to everyhting from Nas to Eminem to Drake to Gucci. Open your mind people like you make me sick.

      • Folabi

        The same thing is happening with every genre.b

      • El Tico Loco

        Dan if you read carefully what the man is saying you wouldn’t be so sick. If you’re as open minded as you say and have been listening for at least 10 years you can see the watering down and how low the standards have sunk is kinda like Precious winning Miss America. Nobody wants the 90′s back but hip hop gets more diluted by the minute and there hasn’t been any advances in a good minute there’s been more regression than progression.

  • Folabi

    ^^^^its not ten years ago, its the culture we’re talking about. So if people started calling blue red and people start complaining, there is something wrong with them. Whether you like it or not, some of these cats are NOT doing hip hop. The same thing is happening with other genres.

  • JERZZZ

    Perhaps if you in the media didnt perpetuate and push on the consumers all of this garbage music, the word “hatin” wouldnt be used so often because we would have less talentless so called “artists” thinking they can excell in something only the top competitors used to be able to do, and the talented would be given there lane back.

    Fuck the wack M.C. movement

  • Folabi

    And meka, this is totally contradicting your ignorance article.

    • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

      “this is totally contradicting your ignorance article.”

      ^ yep.

      C/S JERZZZ

      This blog coincides with the posting I did yesterday, click up & see.

      @ Dan

      The so-called hottest artist now, Rick Rozay, is 90s music.

  • beastcoast

    You should probably proofread before publishing, just sayin…

  • John

    Why does this guy act like he’s on some high horse and he has to kick knowledge to the rest of us? What exactly are your credentials? Have you even been in the hip-hop industry? Or are you just some random blogger acting like his opinion matters? Get a background in the field and then you’ll be held in higher regard but as of right now you’re just a blogger.

    • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

      So having a background in the field (do you mean schooling?) makes your credentials more viable than someone who lived it, was actually there and supported it?

      Please explain this to me. Gza talked about these so-called qualified people in ‘Labels’.

      Many of y’all never saw Kool Herc rock in the PJs, saw a Zulu Nation jam, or hell even been to a NYC block party jam, weren’t at the hot spot clubs that showcased the art when it was growing. What are the qualifications to speak about rap?

      • FaMe

        having had a real damn, paying job in the music industry,

        as in, somebody who has worked for a credible company (you know, the type that has an office building and hmmmm…offices) and not just hid behind their computer posting/promoting music from artists who never survived when they got deals (Charles Hamilton, Papoose, Saigon, Cory Gunz)

        • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

          Well I’ve been fumbling around the industry since the early 90′s, w/Arista in the 3X Dope, Sweet Tee era, all the way to the Rawkus days. Does that qualify me? We didn’t use computers then. DAT players weren’t even out yet. Reel 2 Reels.

          I grew up with a lot of your fave rappers (not in fan-dom, but actually know them), and toured the world with my homie who sold milli’s, does that disqualify me because I didn’t work on a staff?

          I signed failed deals & generated $ for company, had my own full fledged recording studio with my own imprint and did marketing & promo walking the pavement with no budget, because you don’t know me does it mean I don’t know what I’m saying, because my moniker is not recognized?

          Or you gotta be Ty-Ty from Jay’s staff to be accepted has having knowledge about the game.

          Think about it, because you are putting a limitation on your own knowledge of this rap thing.

        • FaMe

          you’re quite qualified. kudos

  • Axeo

    It’s gotta be said since someone brought up qualifications and hip-hop industry

    “Industry rule 4080, record company people are shady” Q-Tip

  • http://www.dopemuzic.com B Eazy

    I think there is a middle ground here. A small minority of dudes don’t ever want anything to change. The majority that complain about the direction of Hip-Hop (which is a reflection of society at large) just want the ESSENCE to remain in tact. At the point that the essence of something is completely lost or changed, it is now something new and totally different from what it was. You can’t just call something hip-hop even if it’s not, just because you feel like it. Like Folabi said, people basically wanna call blue red and then say that you are crazy or hating for correcting them. It’s a struggle to navigate through a world in which insanity is the norm and sanity makes you a heretic.

    Look at the stupid shit that FaMe wrote. How and why does having a paying job in the music industry make you more credible to talk about the culture. Is a European who sells African art more of an authority on African culture and art than an actual African who lives and breathes what the European dude sells?!! of course not!!

  • Brother Man

    I feel what Chris is saying, you have to somehow pay respects to the owners of a style you’re “borrowing”. I’m talking the Big Daddy Kane’s, the sugar hill gang, the Kool Mo Dees etc All them cats from NY. See the problem is that New York has created a monster it cant control and hence hates on anything that’s not from NY (even though what’s coming out from there is quite bad). But there’s rappers coming out from other parts of the country, or other parts of the world even

  • MP

    I love hip hop!! if shit is hot, it’s hot…if it’s wack, it’s wack! It’s not how it used to be with the “edgy” shit duke is talking about like 10 years ago. DMX was Drake, Hov was selling mad albums with his movement (but not on top like X) I mean i can’t fuck with Gucci like that cuz i’m used to a different calibur of shit but if people like it, it’s cool with me. I can barely fuck with Wayne cuz of what he used to rap like b4 2004…lol Kanye’s beats is the best but his lyrics are kinda weak but i don’t care cuz i buy all his albums and like it (except 808′s [fuck was he thinking?] I never liked 50 but he had some knocks and everyone used ride his nuts and now his buzz isn’t what it used to be. Drake will pass, Gucci will pass, let’s just look to the future and hope we’ll look back at this and say “remember when the shit was wack?”

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    1st off, I like music. 2nd off i hate ignorant people. not hate like hating on them because they’re ignorant but literally hate them because of the stupid things that come out their mouths. younger people (including myself ) think they know it all and as an older person i can appreciate learning something new everyday. With that said, a lot of hip hop heads are stuborn. I think B eazy said it best. Again, you can’t deny that hip hop is growing. We want the essence of hip hop to remain the same. Hip hop has changed tho. its not gonna be 2000 again or 1990 for that matter BUT we got Jay electronica. I’m not saying he is hip hop’s saviour BUT i am saying real mcs are out there. I’m sure many of you can spit a hot 16 that is hotter than anything on the raido. Its not just about lyrics nowadays. If you don’t move beyond that str8 fire lyrical ability and see that the world has changed, you won’t appreciate hip hop. I’m not saying gucci is hip hop because gucci is only one of a hundred of rappers. You guys give him too much power. thas where the hating comes into place. don’t hate them or hate on them. you hate when you can’t find one thing good about a popular song. I promise if real hip hop heads found one good thing to say they would be able to sell them on some real hip hop techniques.

  • Gemz

    I think rappers that people critisize alot on this site (Gucci, Soulja Boy Tell Em’, Wacka Flocka etc…) just need to be challenged to raise the quality of their music. There is a balance between making music that has mainstream appeal (music that sells) and Quality Muzik. Thats Exactly what we plan to do. The first in a Trilogy of Underground Albums “The Sweet Sixteen” Set to Drop October ‘Oh 10′.

  • Don’t worry about it

    Just like everyone has their own taste of what they like, everyone has their own taste of what they dislike and will respond accordingly.
    So, I say all that to say the following:

    Meka- Shut the fuck up.

    Also, to say Hip Hop is a Young man’s sport, and you should only be of a certain group to survive it, is bullshit. I see plenty of ol rockers, jazz musicians and singers holding fast and stayin on their shit.

    So again. Shut up. Peace.

  • sb

    hip hip is one of the youngest genres of music. Rock and Roll has been here for 50 plus years..The rolling stones are in their 70′s…Paul Mc Cartney is still doing his thing as well..Im tired of people saying that hip hop is a young man’s sport when you have Jay-Z, Em, Kanye,50,Nas..Who are all in thier 30′s except for jay… T.I and Wayne are they young superstars… People said the same thing about rock and roll being a young persons music as well as jazz..So just fall back and keep that to yourself

  • El Tico Loco

    If you’re the type that thinks that hip hop is cool they way it is and we should get over the 90′s or 80′s “better” music, what’s up with bringing back tight jeans and rocking retro kicks? Hmm

  • Vee

    i’m getting that the majority is in agreement, hip hop is in a stalemate at the moment.

  • http://johnnyciphe.bandcamp.com Johnny Ciphe

    Look everybody whos talkin bout younger listeners dont understand…SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

    America blocked the rawness from ALL american music and tv but STOP COMPLAININ ABOUT IT

    I was born and rasied in South Forida and im a jamaican 17 year old who produces….if you want the old GO OUT AND LOOK FOR IT!! the north dont got any more lyrical music hittin the radio and there just complain (many peolpe who move down from new york complain abou tthis)

    The south got Jay Electronica, Beville, Pill and all that…we jus except it and keep spittin the gucci-waa flocka raps AND the Group Home, Jay-Z, AZ,type shyt!!

    stop complain and MOVE ON!! once you do that you will actually find lyrical rappers rite infront of you

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