Failed careers + corrupt journalism = kaboom!

As perhaps the only person on the Internets to have beefed with Lupe Fiasco and Prolyfic, and eskay, I feel like I’m uniquely qualified to comment on the fracas that took place on Twitter yesterday.

Especially old people will recall that Lupe and I first got into it (no homo) in the summer of 2006, when he tried to use the leak of his first album, Food and Liquor, to generate publicity for himself. Atlantic Records didn’t want to release the album, because there was no business case for it, and he went on okayplayer and claimed that it was because it hit the Internets a few weeks before it was set to hit stores, and that as a result he might retire before his career even officially began, Kid Cudi-style (but before there was a such thing as a Kid Cudi), as if his was the first album to ever show up on the Internets before it showed up in stores.

Hence I wasn’t surprised in the least bit to see where Lupe is promoting some petition to Atlantic Records to release his album Lasers, or whatever it’s called, supposedly started by one of his fans. Both the fact that the TIs know better than to release his album before it’s advantageous for them, for tax purposes, and the fact that he thinks he can save his career via Internets shenanigans are typical. All that was left was for him to threaten to jump off in somebody’s ass, just like the good old days. Pause.

eskay and I have gotten into it so many times I’d honestly have to consult the Google to give you a rough number. Nullus. And by “gotten into it” I mean I made a perfectly fair, valid criticism of his site, and he responded by pretending as if he was going to drive all the way from Yonkers, NY, or wherever the fuck he lives, to the shanty town I live in here in St. Louis, climb up on a milk crate and punch me in the face, One of the more recent examples is when Def Jam arranged for Shyne to call him and read from a set of talking points about how the reason his new music sucks balls is because he’s got a whole new perspective on shit after having spent a full decade in the pokey, new songs about shooting people notwithstanding, and eskay slavishly repeated said claims and told us we should respect it.

That’s why they pay him the big bucks.

This guy Prolyfic, on the other hand, has been complaining for years that his children are starving (his words, not mine), because he couldn’t get beats on any Lupe album other than Food and Liquor. My fear is that they may have actually died. How else to explain why he’s so upset that Lupe’s career is coming to a sad, early conclusion. I don’t buy that his part in this beef has to do with anything other than him fretting for his own financial situation, and neither would anyone else, if they had any idea who he is. I’m only familiar with him because I caught him on, again, okayplayer a couple of years ago whining about how my old friend Lupe had fucked him over. No homo. Then he popped up again in an interview with the then-obscure Fake Shore Drive. I knew I recognized him from somewhere. Then I got to the part where he called Lupe the most disloyal person in the history of disloyalty, or something to that effect. He got all pissed off when I excerpted it on my own site. He must not have thought anyone would read it.

This all came to a head [||] yesterday afternoon on Twitter. Several years after the fact (several decades in Internets time) Lupe was still in denial about the state of his career, trying to prove to the white people in charge at Atlantic that people really would be willing to pay for another Lupe Fiasco album. It says so right there on Twitter. This past weekend, Prolyfic, who could use some help himself, tried to give him some advice on how to get his career in order. It was obvious to me that Prolyfic heard about how Lasers had been shelved and felt like this was a good opportunity to gloat. But who knows? He may have also felt that this was a good opportunity to secure a beat placement on the next Lupe album or (more likely) mixtape. I wouldn’t want to assume anything about him. He has a hard enough with people repeating things he actually said.

Lupe, to his credit, I think really does put a lot of time and effort into writing his lyrics. I’m no big fan of his music, like my boy TPAR, but I really did think he had the talent to carry the torch for artists enjoyed by aging haters such as myself, like A Tribe Called Quest. That’s why people were so upset when he couldn’t be bothered to memorize the lyrics to “Electric Relaxation” (which he should know by heart anyway for the VH1 Hip Hop Honors a few years back. He spends all that time working on a song, then the white guy from 2DopeBoyz hacks into his email account and steals it. Then he has to start over again from square one. In the meantime, Gucci Mane has already put out several mixtapes. I wouldn’t go into the studio as much either, if I were him. There’s literally no point to it. Case in point, his version of Rawse’s “BMF,” in which he took the names of famous drug dealers and replaced them with the two figures from black history that even the GED recipients amongst us (like Nas) are familiar with – MLK and Malcolm X. It’s as gay as a three dollar bill. He’s hardly even rapping on it. He must have rushed it out to capitalize on the joementum from the petition to get his job back.

eskay seemed to enjoy it, but then eskay has seemed to enjoy pretty much everything Lupe has done, except apparently for his indie rock side project. I’m not saying he was the biggest Lupe Fiasco stan in all of the Internets, but he was the biggest Lupe stan I was aware of, with the caveat that I try not to read very many blogs. It’s not good for my writing. Which put eskay in the weird position yesterday of having to dis Lupe and not come off as some jilted Internets stan. In retrospect, he probably would have been best off not posting any more of Lupe’s music after Lupe and his weed carriers roughed up the white guy from 2DopeBoyz. (XXL’s own Meka is the black guy from 2DopeBoyz. I wonder what he has to say.) eskay and 2DopeBoyz are supposedly part of the same crew. If Lupe and his weed carriers beat up one of my (imaginary) friends, you can rest assured that I’d do more than just refrain from giving him free promotion on the Internets (which is all a post on Nah Right amounts to). It’d be full-on character assassination, possibly of a sexual nature. Nullus. But that’s just me. I’m not gonna post something just because I think I could make a few dollars from it. Even the pr0n I post is not necessarily the kind everyone enjoys. That, my friends, is called integrity.

I might have to write that down, in case I ever deliver a high school commencement address.

Even Lupe himself seemed surprised to see his version of “BMF” on Nah Right, supposedly because he thought he was banned from Nah Right, just like yours truly, and probably because he put his shoe on one of eskay’s alleged friends. Lupe was probably right when he implied, yesterday on Twitter, that eskay had set aside their issues for the sake of a few pageviews. eskay must have seen this while going through Lupe’s timeline to follow the beef with Prolyfic, and that’s when he decided to ban Lupe for good, once it was necessary to appear credible. And so what had been a beef between Lupe Fiasco and Prolyfic, a guy whose career has seen better days and a guy who hardly ever had a career to speak of, suddenly became this huge clusterfuck involving eskay and, by extension, every other blogger who didn’t have shit else better to do yesterday afternoon, admittedly myself included. Somewhere (probably in his parents’ basement), Prolyfic must have been pissed that what could have been his opportunity to generate a little publicity for himself based on Lupe’s misfortune had been hijacked. Maybe he can still talk eskay into posting a few of his beats, to spite Lupe.

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  • MindState

    Honestly man I really stopped feelin’ Lupe when he said he didn’t grow up listenin’ to Tribe and all that, like just cuz he’s from Chicago he did’nt have the opportunity to hear them if he really knew music. No hate at all, but to me that’s why it was lame as fuck that he even got to do the tribute performance. Dont get me wrong I understand everybody got the right to like what they like, I know that, but shit folks try to act like he’s part of the so called new generation of Native Tongues and everything so shit.. But fuck all’lat.

    My main thing is.. I tend to think that the reason Atlantic is hesitant to put out his stuff is cuz that shit be wack as fuck. I mean on the real, In my opinion “Food and Liquor” was so fuckin wack except for “Kick,Push” cuz the beat was ill even tho’ skaters wasn’t even diggin’ that shit, and the other joint he had wit Pharrell “I,Gotcha” I was bumpin that shit. No lie, I gave that shit to a girl i was workin with at the time like three days after i bought it. And I wasn’t even tryin to fuck her! I would have tho..

    I felt the same way about “The Cool”, Mediocre. I liked “Paris,Tokyo” and that was about it.

    Other people I’m sure will disagree with me and that’s cool, but my guess is that’s why they aint tryin to put out “Lasers”. But like I said it’s no hate comin from me so I honestly hope he gets to put out his album so people can hear it, but me personally I’m not expecting to really like that shit if he does.

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  • herfav

    that explains alot. but i though I have seen a few lupe post on 2DPBZ

  • LeanT

    Meka is the gay black guy with tight pants from 2DopeBoyz

    Get Em’ Bol

  • Deadly MIME

    I knew Atlantic was gonna fuck his career up the minute they made him do this Lasers album. Alot of people think it was his idea to do Lasers, but the thing is his third album was supposed to be part one of the trilogy L.U.P. End concept. Its just that Atlantic wanted him to do an album that will sell very well. Food and Liquor, and The Cool is still dope as fuck! But see this is why I would have stuck to being independent cause I don’t want a white person (not all of yall) telling me what I should put on a hip-hop album. I already seen this coming so I’m not disappointed but i am fustrated cause this also proves a point that many so-called “haters” like myself have been saying: Hip-Hop has become more about the money, mass appeal and first week-sales than the artform itself. As of now, there will never be balance in the game cause everyone is doin a 1991 FL state wide-right field goal (look it up).

  • Saratoga N. Blake

    Any “culture” where a half-wit sub-literate whore like ‘Eskay’ gets any respect deserves all the scorn it gets. Maybe I just don’t get ‘Eskay’ because of all the literary and historical allusions he so often makes?

    That said, although not a Lupe fan myself, I give dude credit for trying… something. Get in bed with a monster (Atlantic), however, and expect to get your big black dick bitten off (II)– it happens plenty to white too.


    lupe need to get off his high horse and get his hustle on. instead of whinning to his fans the album is done already guys the mean label won’t drop it make some new shit. i am all for quality over quantity but this nigga lupe wanna be called the next he need to put some work in. he could be using this time to also jump on other artist albums.

  • YoUtopic

    Great post.

    I think if Lupe Fiasco was less talented he would be more successful.

    The music industry is a hustle. You can have the hottest shit, but if no one knows where to buy, whats the point?

    Its good that an artist can focus on writing good lyrics, but focusing on getting good production and well written hooks is just as important.

    Should Atlantic put out the record? Well, Lupe’s last album did go gold, but that was three years ago (which is like a decade in the music industry). We don’t even know if Lupe wants to even rap anymore, and he seems to intentionally not want to make hit songs so he can rap about “staying true to the game”.

    Bignat is right. Jump on some features and stop with the lame mixtapes.

  • Sway-z

    I just don’t get it, the first album almost went Gold, and the second album went Gold. In this climate, especially for a “conscious” artist, what more is Atlantic looking for?

    You knew what you were getting when you signed him, and even if you wasn’t sure, after the first two albums there should be no confusion. He’s shown the ability to make marginally successful mainstream singles, just drop it. If it bricks, it bricks..

  • HellNaw

    Funny post.

    I think there was a lot of hope that Lupe would blow up after his guest looks on Kanyes album and a some underground buzz.I like Lupe’s stuff.’HipHop saved my life’ ‘hurt me soul’ ‘go go gadget flow’ ‘dumb it down’…all got more than 3stars on my ipod shuffle.

    However, my old-ass opinion doesn’t count for shit.People like myself aren’t busting a gut to buy his album in the first week.

    He was never gonna make it rich with that style…but then i didn’t think any record company with concious/backpack/underground rappers on their label expected to.Call me cynical, but i thought they just had those dudes on their label for credibility so that they could drop some dumb yabba-dabba-dooo flame shit.

    Just sayin’

  • avenger xl

    Lupe Fiasco is a perfect example of a dude who could make more money by using the label to build his brand and then drop label to sell units independent/tour to maximize capital. These juve publicity stunts just make him appear as a asshole and that is no matter what side of the argument you fall on with digital music situation. Labels are no longer in the business of breaking new interesting bands they are happy selling records off the flavor of the month/lcd/pop rapper.

  • Sean

    Pls wat does TIs means.
    (I have being coming across it on for a while now)
    I have being searching for the meaning everywhere on the innernet to no avail.
    Anybody there?????????????????????

    • Bol’s #1 Fan Stan

      Tall Israelites (mos def made a song about this on The New Danger).

      back to the post, i think Bol just ethered dudes. good work.

    • whatever

      T.I. = tall Israeli, like Lyhor Cohen, term used to scribe guys who really run the record labels in some mos def song

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