What Does Lil Kim Want? R-E-S-P-E-C-T

I’m a headline skimmer when it comes to stuff I don’t care about. Currently, the Lil Kim/Nicki Minaj one-sided beef is principle on my list of things of little importance. But after being asked about this whole non-beef about 300 times over the past few days, I finally decided to sit down and read all of Kim, Ray J, and Drake’s comments, along with Nicki’s subliminal tweets and every other artist that felt the need to weigh in (Lil’ Cease, 50 CentJadakissFat Joe, etc.)

I came out with the same understanding of what was going on and only one question:

What is Lil Kim doing?

Or, better yet, what is it that she wants?

It goes without saying (especially since it’s been said all last week on the blogs and Twitter enough) but Lil Kim is losing me. I can’t figure out what her problem is (aside from the obvious). Here’s the convoluted explanation she gave Philly’s Kendra G for the recent rash of Nicki-bashing she’s embarked on:

“All females that come in the game, we all need to stick together and I always try my best to embrace them but what happens is when you come into the game and realize that I’m not going away and my fans are still here and they can’t just step over me. They can’t just step on me and then they’re kinda like, they get upset and then they don’t want to be my friend anymore and I think that’s really childish, you know what I’m saying?”

Only I don’t really understand what she’s saying. But I’d assume, as I’ve heard her and a million other people say it’s that she’s want Nicki to pay homage, right? That’s pretty understandable. If I were Kim I’d want (and expect!) that too. But I could’ve sworn Nicki gave her her props? In an old interview with Necole Bitchie, Nicki shared:

Necole Bitchie: My first time ever posting you on my site was when Sickamore brought me your mixtape and sent the promo pic where you emulated one of Lil Kim’s poses when she first came out. Do you think that is where the Lil Kim comparisons stems from?

Nicki Minaj: Of course, that picture played a huge role. I do say my little freaky shit in raps but everyone does. Every dude I listen to reference sex somewhere in their rap.

Necole Bitchie: Have you met Lil Kim and how does she feel about you as an artist?

Nicki Minaj: I do not know. I did meet her when I was with Lil Wayne during the I AM Music tour. We chopped it up and I gave her props, but we haven’t spoken since. I got nothing but love for her, I think she is one of the key players in this female rap thing, so you can not do nothing but salute Kim.

But the Queen Bee says it’s not as simple as Nicki just not paying respects it’s about her just being outright disrespectful. In an interview with Thisis50.com, Lil Kim tried to say that the issue is all the subliminal disses that Nicki was sending her way.

“For the last year she has been subliminally taking shots at me,” said Kim. “Subliminally taking shots at the other girls in the industry. I mean come on, we read that interview where she said, ‘Being that the other rap chicks in the game ain’t got shit to do right now, when I’m by the pool they can feed me grapes.’ I remember that shit.”

I love Nicki’s penchant for calling out rap chicks. It’s one of my favorite Minaj memes… Well, next to how much head she gets (“more head than a dread,” “more head than pigtails” “more head than shampoos” etc.) and gives (How many times has she called herself Nicki Lewinksy?) Isn’t that the charm of her most seminal mixtape hit “Itty Bitty Piggy” And isn’t that what this game is all about?

I don’t see any of the other femcees taking it that way. Trina did a verse alongside her on the “Five Star Chick (Remix),” hell, they even co-hosted their birthday party’s together. Remy Ma definitely didn’t take it that way either. “I like competition,” she told Jenny Boom earlier this year, “I’d like to make it not so easy for Nick [Nicki Minaj] right now.” She also talked about how this might be a reflection of a changing of the guards in female rap. (“U-N-I-T-Y What the Female Rap Game’s Been Missin?”)

Even Kim said herself:

“So a little while goes by, I see her at the Lil Wayne concert and I show her love. She sitting here saying she showed me love, I showed her love. She reciprocated it but it was a littler war on her behalf. A little obnoxious but whatever. Now from that time on right, I would go on the Internet and see little pebbles thrown my way. Anybody that’s in the hip-hop industry we know how this game goes. We know the shit she was saying was subliminal, we know it’s a competitive sport and little people are going to try to claim their spot.”

…So if you know it’s a competitive sport then… what’s the problem??

Put it on wax, Kim. —Brooklyne Gipson

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  • these posts are racist

    Again…This is actually why Kim SHOULD beef with Nikki. This is the most attention Kim has gotten in years…she’s not really upset folks, she’s getting free publicity. Fear not, Nikki will do the same in ten years when a new Queen takes over…it’s just the way it is.

  • RDS

    I honestly really don’t understand Kim targeting Nikki. I agree with TPAR’s statements above, but this is really pointless. She’s constantly talking shit at her shows, with no zero music out right now to promote. She’s not even attempting to sell records with a beef (i.e. 50 or pretty much anybody else I can think of right now). She’s just straight shit-talking. I get that she wants her respect and all that and I suppose she saw Cube just do it over on the West and thinks she should do the same on the East. But I really don’t see ANYWHERE Nikki mentioned Kim specifically. I read the XXL article where Kim says she felt targeted and Kim’s name was never mentioned nor even implied. Yes, they sound similar, but she sounds more like Foxy than Kim on her records. If anything I’d think Foxy would be out here saying something. That, to me, could be justifiable to a degree, but is it really serious enough to beef with someone because he or she sounds the same as you? I don’t think so, personally, but then, that’s just me.

    -R

  • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

    What really grinds my gears (whaddup Peter Griffin!) is that people are saying “Kim ain’t relevant anyway now”.

    Why, because she’s not topping the charts? She’s still alive ain’t she?

    The greatest form of flattery in the music game is to do a cover song of the person that influenced you, not take their personality. Chopping it up on the sidelines ain’t really nothing, weren’t we taught that actions speak louder than words?

    If I was Minaj’s team I would have BEEN tried to get a Kim collabo. Anyone with a small portion of brain could have seen this coming. And after a while even Minaj will get tired of the endless comparisons.

    But style biting has never garnered good results in the industry. Ask the Osmonds, the Sylvers (young Foster Sylvers was touted as “the next Micheal”), the DeBarges, the 5-Star family. They were all supposed to be the new Jacksons. NONE of them outlasted the originals.

    “You’ve got to have style, and learn to be original/Or everybody’s gonna wanna diss you”-KRS-ONE ‘My Philosophy’

    • GHBJ

      co-sign

    • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

      @ the board

      I left a perfect example of this over on Charl’s blog (2nd comment).

      I just totally see this in a different view than others. There’s a difference between biting and paying homage.

    • oskamadison

      Yo, $yk

      CO-SIGN!! Damn, son, you pulled out The Sylvers, lol. That’s some OG shit right there. I was just listening to “Misdemeanor” the other day and thinking, the whole industry was on MJ’s nuts, early. Regarding this mindless, pointless beef between Kim and Nicki: basically, to hell with both of ‘em. Rah Digga’s droppin’ in September.

  • http://mozilla LI PUPU

    MANE, NICKI DNT OWE HER SHIT. WHAT KIM WANT HER TO SHOUT HER OUT EVERY CHANCE SHE GET. NICKI AINT TOOK FROM KIM’S STYLE BUT MAYBE THE COLORD WIG THANG , SO WHAT. SHE DNT SOUND LIKE HER, ACT LIKE HER OR FLOW LIKE HER. THIS PAY HOMAGE SHIT MAKES ME SICK. U DNT OWE NOBODY SHIT TRYN TO GET INTO SHOW BIZNESS. YOU’LL B HOMAGE UR WHOLE DAMN CAREER (WIT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME B4 U). IF U SEE A PIONEER OUT OR SOMETHING GV THEM SOME DAP AND KEEP PUSHN BUT OTHER THAN THAT U AINT GOTTA KISS NO ASS. THE WAY NICKI CAN GET PAST THIS SHIT IS DNT SAY NOTHING AND LET HER TALK TIL SHE BLUE IN THE FACE, EVENTUALLY SHE’LL RUN OUTTA GAS. LIKE JIGGA SAID “I AINT GOTTA DO IT WIT THE FLOW, THEY DID IT WIT THEY SALES”

  • Worley

    Who cares what happens when two chicks fight. We just want to see some t!tties.

  • SketchesofFumi

    Kim needs to head to the studio and stop with all of these nonsense interviews. Let your record sales speak for you, not the other way around. I thought all “legends” knew that already.

  • Eddie Blanco

    I love Lil Kim and want she did for the female rap game, but she’s taking it over board with the whole Nicki Minaj thing. Like Nicki has paid homage to Kim and she didn’t even have to but she did, out of RESPECT. But that’s Kim. She was at the VH1 Hip Hop Honors with Remy on stage, then the next month she’s dissing her. But the older female is always hating on the next upcoming female, and with a ass like Nicki’s who wouldn’t hate. I’m surprised Foxy ain’t get at Nicki YET. But in the end I ride with Kim, but she needs to stop worrying about Nicki and worry about spitting that fire…cause Nicki’s spitting that fire, and she’s hungry, and she’s fine as hell…

  • http://Pierzy11@gmail.com Pierzy

    I think she wants another new nose…but that’s just me.

  • Brooklyn

    co-sign $yk, nicki and kim shoulda been collaborated on a track. i think nicki was so busy trying to be kim 2.0 that she didn’t even think about that.

    • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

      I think they didn’t expect Kim to say anything.

      But we should all know if it was Fox Boogie who had her stylee bitten, Foxy would have been out there WAAAYYY extra with it.

  • RL

    A rap battle to see who’s Hip Hop’s biggest prostitute? Yeah, this is exactly what the game needs right now.

  • The Great Spade

    Man for real both of these chicks need to go away…Lil Kim just mad cause nobody really cares about her ass no more(ie. she don’t even look like herself anymore). And the fact that Nicki (I can’t stand her ass) is out doin her thing and apparently she is a copy cat..Oh fuckin well Kimberly… Get the fuck over it, drop a new album, hell drop a damn single and do what you supposed to do instead of talkin shit with Brandy’s bitch ass lil brother…And for the record the best female emcee in the game is Jean Grae…..Hands down…

  • JB

    I’m all for KIM in this ordeal!!! Nicki is unoriginal and has been from the moment she burst onto the scene. KIM will ALWAYS be the Queen in the lane Nicki is attempting to occupy!!!

    • http://mozilla LI PUPU

      NICKI MINAJ HAS NEVER SAID SHE WAS QUEEN

  • M. Baby!

    Again, I repeat. Back in the day in Hip-Hop biting somebody’s style was wack and you were considered wack. They thought Biggie was wack for just copying Nas’ baby album cover, but Biggie had the skills to back it up. It’s clear Nicki isn’t writing her own verses, but Kim didn’t write most of her hot verses either. But she’s biting Kim’s style. I could see if Nicki just copied Kim’s legs wide open pic and kept it moving, but she literally copied EVERYTHING Kim did. Ya’ll acting like it’s not that important because it’s females. Now if some new cat was to come into the game straight copying Biggie or Pac’s styles…it would be a totally different story and everybody would have something to say about that. What happened to the originality and creativeness. That’s what’s wrong with Hip-Hop music now….people wanna just copy others and that’s why all of the music sounds the same. No diversity.

  • Anonymous

    ,m

  • http://www.msn.com Beezy

    I dont understand what Kim wants from Nicki everyone says she wants her to pay homage but she’s already a legend. What could Nicki say about Kim that hasnt already been said.

    Its not like u saw Rakim come at Nas or Jay coming at Wayne for not paying homage and Jay took more subliminal shots then Kim did.

  • gift

    kim ass is bitter about losing steam. kim ain’t had nothing worth fuckin wit in years. She got out of jail a while ago now, and still and did nothin worth taking notice of. Nicki is maken female rap noticeable again, which even if she didn’t rap she’d be noticed (bad motherfucka), but still, kim need to grab a mic or my dick and keep it moven LMFAO!!!

  • Jay

    WHY didnt you include where Kim says she laid down a track with Nicki and they axed it along with the video, because they didnt want to see Nicki stand next to Kim. Nicki actually heard Kims verse BEFORE she laid hers down too, its so lame on Cash Moneys part.