Respect The South – Who VH1 Should Have Honored

I know a thing or two about creating lists and the controversy that comes from them. So far be it for me to criticize somebody else’s picks. But as VH1 officially rolls out the honorees and performers for their 2010 Hip-Hop Honors show, I can’t help but think how I’d do it differently.

For the record, this isn’t a fuck-their-list-my-opinion-is-the-only-one-that-matters post. Nah, this is just how I would do it differently if I ran Hip-hop Honors.

First off, I’d like to commend the folks for honoring Hip-Hop’s Southern contribution. And while I’d love to see just an overall ceremony that includes ALL of rap’s regions, I know how these things work.

VH1 played it safe. Instead of honoring the massive amount of artists from the South, they honored business pioneers, producers and labels. So when they listed Jermaine Dupri, J. Prince, Master P, Organized Noize and Luke it saved them from having to make the hard decisions. It’s their way of including artists like OutKast and Goodie Mob under the “Organized Noize” tribute without having to choose between the two.

I’m not mad at that, but playing it safe makes for boring blogs, doesn’t it? So if I was in charge of VH1’s Hip-Hop Honors here are the five Southern acts that I’d pick. Who would you pick? —Rob Markman, The Deputy!

OUTKAST
When Dre and Big Boi debuted in 1994 with Southernplayalistic… they were distinctly Southern, but they have since transcended any regional distinction. I guess selling over 16 million records would do that to you. Today, despite not having released an album in about four years, OutKast stands as not just southern ambassadors, but ambassadors for hip-hop as a whole.

SCARFACE
I remember when I first got my hands on a homemade mixtape with “Mind Playing Tricks On Me” and rewinding it about fifty-leven times. Through the years Scarface has become one of my favorite rappers (he’s on my personal Top 5 Dead or Alive list). He’s been an inspiration for so many artists who have came after him that honoring him would be a no-brainer.

8BALL & MJG
I won’t lie, being in New York I was late on Ball and G’s 1993 debut album Comin’ Out Hard. But when I finally heard it I was amazed. From “9 Little Millemeta Boys” to “Pimps In The House” the shit bangs from beginning to end. I know new school rappers would line-up to honor the Memphis-duo. Plus, it’ll give young Buck an excuse to leave the house.

LUKE & 2 LIVE CREW
VH1 got this right. From their independent hustle to their sexually driven lyrics to their constant use of 808s, Luther Campbell and 2 Live Crew were pioneers in every sense of the word. Miami booty bass is still one of the most underrated hip-hop sounds.

UGK
This is a no brainer. Who didn’t want to be down with UGK? Bun B deserves his own day or something because he always put the group above his own solo career and we all know that’s not how rappers typically operate. When Pimp C was in jail, Bun was hollering UGK and has been even after the Pimp passed in 2007. Not only that, as veterans in the game, UGK have always embraced all the new Southern talent that their music has helped raise.

  • geron

    yea u r right Outkast shoulda been at the TOP of the list. and Three 6 Mafia as well. pioneers in sampling. they were using creative samples even b4 RZA. they are pure legends but u gotta put the WHOLE mafia in it lord infamous gangsta boo and project pat as well even tho he isnt officially in the group

    • General

      I agree Outkast and 36Maffia should be honored, but the top of the list??? Nah, that spot is reserved for Scarface and Luke, alot of people need to do their homework and see the work these cats put in

  • epinz

    i agree with everybody mentioned. but u cant leave out the d.o.c(from houston) the geto boys( not just scarface) the whole hypnotized minds(not just three six) and the whole dungeon family(not just outkast) and suave house of course!!!!

    • Anonymous

      The D.O.C. is from Dallas homie!

  • HNIC

    Well, you’ve listed 4 of my top 5 All Time Favorite Southern MC’s; Scarface, Andre 3k, Bun B & 8Ball. (The problem with most duo’s is that one always stands out more than the other. As you stated earlier in the week with your Big Boi drop.) Luda was the only one that you failed to mention. Pound for pound, they can more than hold their own, if not outshine any MC’s in the game, past or presently.

    Most of them are listed somewhere on your favorite rappers top 5 list. That shows you have vast their influence is recognized, felt & even imitated (in varying degrees) amongst the hip hop community. Therefore, they each deserved their individual recognition during the Hip Hop Honors awards. Hopefully, later award shows will correct their error.
    Well, you listed 4 of my top 5 All Time Favorite Southern MC’s; Scarface, Andre 3k, Bun B & 8Ball. Luda was the only one that you failed to mention. Pound for pound, they can more than hold their own, if not outshine any MC’s in the game, past or presently.

    Most of them are listed somewhere on your favorite rappers top 5 list. That shows you have vast their influence is recognized & felt amongst the hip hop community. Therefore, they each deserved their individual recognition during the Hip Hop Honors awards. Hopefully, later award shows will correct their error.

  • UGK Alumni

    Being from the South, I love the Southern contribution to Hip Hop. The list provided is pretty solid even the safe route that Vh1 decided to take. But my personal list would start with men from Port Arthur, Tx.
    UGK 4 LIFE!!!!!

  • HNIC

    Well, you listed 4 of my top 5 All Time Favorite Southern MC’s; Scarface, Andre 3k, Bun B & 8Ball. Luda was the only one that you failed to mention. Pound for pound, they can more than hold their own, if not outshine any MC’s in the game, past or presently.

    Most of them are listed somewhere on your favorite rappers top 5 list. That shows you have vast their influence is recognized, felt & even imitated (in varying degrees) amongst the hip hop community. Therefore, they each deserved their individual recognition during the Hip Hop Honors awards. Hopefully, later award shows will correct their error.

    My bad, for the double post.

  • El Tico Loco

    Cash Money – I can’t stand Birdman but there’s a lot of history and credit is due especially with Mannie Fresh and BG.

  • ff1one@yahoo.com

    Great list. I mean Outkast has to be at the top. Ugk on another level. I gotta agree 36 mafia needs love…BuT, don’t for get about Master P and the No limit soilders. They might not have been as lyrical but No Limit held it down for some summers and Master P hustle game was so grimy.

  • Moving Sideways

    Your list is almost beyond reproach, but in the interest of being contrarian.

    I’d bounce 8Ball & MJG and UGK in favor of Cash Money and Three 6 Mafia. Don’t get it twisted, I am a huge fan of both of them.

    However, if you are talking the different regions of the south. You already have Scarface from Houston and Three 6 are more important nationally to the Memphis sound than 8Ball & MJG. In addition you have no NOLA artists, and they ran shit for a good chunk of this new century. Personally I’d go with Cash Money over No Limit because 400 Degreez is still the one.

  • M. Baby!

    To be honest they just need to do a 2 part special and include everybody. Scarface, Outkast, UGK, Suave House (8Ball & MJG), The whole No Limit Back then, Cash Money back then, Ghetto Boys, T.I., Three 6 Mafia, Jezzy, Ross, 2 Live Crew, and everyone behind all of them. Tony Draper, Organized Noise, & J Prince. That’s how I would do it. There’s still a lot of people missing but I think these are the ones that really changed the game for the south and kept it moving strong!

  • Chevy_T

    Are ya’ll trippin?? How can u 4get the thug of thugs d@ nigga Trick Daddy… Trick been holdin it down wit 0 awards and he still does it like not other… Im from Ga but imma always check for trick… I agree if they gon give the south a tribute they need to redo the show cause its alotta cats who been puttin it down for the south… str8 like d@!!

  • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

    I would say why don’t y’all @ XXL do some honoring but y’all be fukkin’ up the lists too…

    • Rob Markman

      hahahahaha.
      can’t please ‘em all!

      • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

        *Neo weaves Rob’s shots*

        (II)

  • http://manutebogues.blogspot.com cramzy

    Everybody on that list is hip hop (not southern, HIPHOP!) royalty but you gotta add Cash Money, No Limit,3-6 Mafia,and DJ Screw to that

  • The_Truth

    **I rarely get on here to diss anyone, but the comment ‘Moving Sideways’ posted was one of the dumbest comments I’ve read in awhile.

    3-6 Mafia over 8Ball/MJG, are you f*ckin serious? 8Ball is a legendary TRUE rapper, w/classic albums the entire Hip-Hop community recognizes. Are you basing 3-6 on their Oscar?? B/c I thats debatable too.

    Cash money over No Limit? Dude what are you 20yrs old?? Do you know Cash money WOULDNT HAVE GOT THEIR DEAL unless No Limit masde the majors take notice to the south’s commercial success? Know how many records No Limit still holds to THIS DAY?

    I had to call you out on that BS.

  • yall negros crazy

    Man why do niggas always forget about Goodie Mob. I know they did not have the longevity of other groups, but lyrically, creatively, and street conscious wise, aint nobody other than maybe Outkast touchin dem out of da south. These niggas was neck and neck wit outkast until they broke up. Don’t get me wrong I love UGK, ball and mjg, and all dat other southern trap stuff but I’d take da first two GMob albums over all of them, ain’t nothing like that southern soul that Goodie mob and the Dungeon Family produced. Goodie mob influence Kast to change dey swag from the SPCM album.
    Is the reason these niccas get overlooked by the more trap star southern rappers because they were in the same crew as Outkast??????

  • Killa K

    They cant have a 6 hour show, But all those cats deserve to be honored.

  • HOUSTON TX. SOUTHSIDE

    U HAVE 2 HONOR ALL D ABOVE COMING FROM H-TOWN FROM D SOUTH 2 D NORTH WE WERE JAMMING THEM CATS.DONT HAVE 1 ME N MY FAMILY GIVING HONORS 2 ALL 8-BALL, MJG,LUKE,UGK,FACE,OUTKAST,N DONT 4GET DEVIN D DUDE.

  • HOUSTON TX. SOUTHSIDE

    4GOT WE LOVE U DJ SCREW MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

  • KING ARUBA

    List Include:
    Tony Draper
    J Prince
    2 Live Crew
    UGK
    OutKast
    Scarface
    Eightball & MJG
    DJ Screw

    Got your mind right…These are the pioneers

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  • TicNitty1

    Nice picks but how can you mention Face and not the Geto Boys? Stop disrespecting the legacy of Willie D and Bushwick! Willie D especially he is as important to Houston hip hop as Face imo.

  • 619

    I think the Geto Boys kicked in the door for the South. I had never heard of Southern rap until I heard ‘My Mind’s Playin’ Tricks on Me’. Face always had mad love here on the West, because his gangster and just don’t give a fuck attitude went hand in hand with everything the West was doin’ back then, and he was always guest appearing on tracks with West Coast artists like Pac, Cube, WC, and others. The Geto Boys paved the way for Southern hip-hop, just like N.W.A. did for the West.

  • Will

    I’m assuming Dungeon Fam is gonna get their own joint, one of the greatest rap coalitions to do it, along with the Wu… Three Six deserve their own shit too, hell they got an Oscar… You think them crackers at VH1 would go ape shit over that. Outkast got a best overall album Grammy, I think they’re the only rap group to do that, Em prolly did it back in the days though…

  • No Name

    Much like last year’s Def Jam showing, I think VH1 is just being lazy by not honoring artists individually like they should and trying to kill a 100 birds with one stone. But I can’t say I’m surprised. They barely gave enough of a shit to honor Too $hort with a respectable or long segment, but pandered to the “real hip-hoppers” by giving De La Soul about twenty five minutes of air time (not including the commercial break in b/w). Just goes to show their bias. They don’t care about individual contributions, just satisfying elitists and old heads

    • No Name

      …and getting the entire Southern hip-hop scene out of the way is the perfect plan to make more time for golden era and “conscious” rappers for years to come. Yeah, I said it.