Just when we needed them least

Let me guess: Neither Cam’ron nor Jim Jones could put a solo album out now if they wanted to, so they decided to get the group back together.

I heard about it just now in the world’s most useless video, from MTV News (natch). They caught up with Cam and Jimmy at what looks like it may have been a celebrity basketball tournament that Jim Jones actually played in: he’s got on a white tee, but not for fashion purposes like they do in the ghetto – it’s normal-sized, and it’s got a v-neck, not unlike the one I’m wearing as we “speak” (nullus); he’s got a towel around his neck, and he looks kinda sweaty, like he just got done fucking. Though I suppose he could just be high on cocaine. Why MTV couldn’t have had someone introduce the footage and explain what was going on I’m not sure. Maybe they’re trying to conserve bandwidth by keeping the videos as brief as possible.

Cam’ron wasn’t dressed to play basketball, nor was he sweaty, despite the fact that a) Cam’ron used to play basketball; and b) Cam’ron seems to be high at all times. But he could just be crazy. Since Cam came out with that song detailing his struggle with irritable bowel syndrome (did I just type that?), I heard about IBS on NPR or some shit, and they were saying that it’s not really caused by eating bad food, or drinking too much. Otherwise, I would have been had that shit. I doubt those things help matters, but they were saying it’s primarily psychological in nature, not unlike back pain. In fact, they were saying that a lot of people who end up with IBS are people who were molested as children, and they never properly dealt with it, or got over it. But keep in mind, I’m pretty sure you can get IBS without having been tampered with. I would never want to suggest that about someone, without knowing for certain that it’s true.

Notice how Cam’ron always seems kinda aloof. The guy from MTV asks him about the new Diplomats album, and he’s like, “Yeah, we’re working on it. You know, trying to get the business together.” Then he hands it off to Jim Jones, who’s all crazy and animated. If anything, Cam’ron could use Jim Jones around, just to have someone to say something interesting in interviews. No wonder there didn’t seem to be very much press surrounding the release of Crime Pays. Similarly, Cam’ron has a tendency to disappear for months, if not years at a time, when you think he might have given up on rap music, then he pops up all of a sudden with several mixtapes worth of new music. Crazy people are always disappearing like that. I remember Rivers Cuomo pulled some shit like that after Pinkerton came out. He was supposedly at Harvard for like, the entire time I was in both high school and college, i.e. damn near 10 years, but I heard he really just barricaded himself in his bedroom, put sheets up over the windows, grew his beard out and fapped to weird Asian pr0n. (Oxymoron?)

While Cam’ron and Jim Jones respective strengths and personalities do seem to compliment one another (no homo), who knows whether or not that will translate into commercial success for a new Diplomats album. Was the fact that the last Cam’ron album did Little Brother numbers really attributable to the fact that it was missing Jim Jones, and vice versa? Or could it be that people are just plain done with Cam’ron and Jim Jones, in any configuration? I suspect that it might be the latter, based on the fact that no one seemed to give a shit about Crime Pays, which was the shit, for a Cam’ron album. I enjoyed it about as much as I did Purple Haze, despite the shittier production. Maybe it was so good it was hard for white people to appreciate ironically, and that’s why they’ve since moved on to Gucci Mane. Cam and Jimmy may have missed their window.

  • fastflipper

    no one in dipset is popping anymore exept for Juelz…

    they all actually on milk box

    maybe it gonna help them to move units to be togeter again.

    But the firsg chapter on the jim/cam pic was hilarious !!!!!!!

  • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

    It seems like Jim needs more career saving than Cam.

    Bol you haven’t heard The Boss Of All Bosses mixtapes 1 & 2 (2.5 sometime this week)?

    • that nigga

      Those mixtapes are crack. That VADO mixtape is crazy “Large on the Streets”. Jim and Cam should just sit back and let Vado and Juelz get busy. Fuck it.

  • joe blow

    i think this will be good. juelz just sounds hot on a record with cam in my personal opinion. maybe that will get hell rell back on track of making listenable music and zeeky will drop a hot song on the album. you can only hope yenno

  • Anonymous

    lol at the last 2 sentences but by golly my boys got something, its gucci, wayne(more or less white females), and like etc. etc. but crime pays was/is awesome (including the skits) the album is kinda long, like somewhat of a double album.

    “Catch me doing pull ups on the dont walk sign”

  • Deez..

    lol at the last 2 sentences but by golly my boys got something, its gucci, wayne(more or less white females), and like etc. etc. but crime pays was/is awesome (including the skits) the album is kinda long, like somewhat of a double album.

    “Catch me doing pull ups on the dont walk sign”

    • The Decatur Dictator

      “Catch me doing pull ups on the dont walk sign” is that supposed to be fresh? Is that a hot line to you? That’s str8 GABAGE! CAM BLOWS, JIM BLOWS, DIP SET and JUELZ Blows! NEW YORK BLOWS! Where the rappers @? Where is the trendsetters? The Trail Blazers? All I see is some fakers, style takers.

      • Anonymous

        i cant even imagine the illiterate southern shit you listen to.

  • The Decatur Dictator

    Another example of New York Sucking (Homo)-

    • Capital G

      You’re the first muthafucka to cry about an East coast bias towards the south, then proceed to run off at the mouth the second anything above the Mason Dixon line gets mentioned. Tell me, what exactly is so fuckin hot about Decatur? Here’s your town’s motto (That’s right TOWN, it ain’t no fuckin city)

      “A city of homes, schools and places of worship”

      Extra gully, just like your comments. Stay gangsta Decatur Dicktaster.

      • The Decatur Dictator

        I feel your post, I do apologize that your mother could not raise a child that can refrain from using curse words to describe your adolesence train of thought, But hey-all mothers can’t be perfect. Now back to rap, I have no bias agaist the north son, I was merely stating the facts…there is no good music, no trendsetters and no buzz in New York. If you say i’m wrong, prove me different. Drop 5 rappers that are national stars right now with a buzz….I’ll wait……(crickets)…nothing. Now mind you, I don’t agree by any stretch of the imagination with certain dudes putting music out down here, some is wack, but you cannot deny the buzz and the hustle to get themselves known and work until it’s a hit. In New York, they are living off of rep, and that only last 16 bars son, then the truth is revealed. So, before you go berating me about my city (Decatur) just know this, more people are moving to my city than are moving to New York. I probably could say it’s 8:1 for the south.

        • Sincere

          “stop being region haters/ dictators/ behind door dick takers”

        • The Decatur Dictator

          *I sincerly say-stay out the mix-
          before some happen to ya-that ya doctor can’t fix-
          *saw off ya head-blow ya chest to bits-
          this is Decatur fool- recognize the hits
          *Recognize the fact that new york aint’ sh*t-I’ll ride from Atlanta to Brooklyn-
          just to piss on ya bricks.
          *So before yo run ya mouth on XXL Mag-understand that the Decatur Dictator-murks all fags.-
          Damn I got it bad….

          (Written by the Decatur Dictator)-

      • Justice4All

        And where are you from?

  • The Decatur Dictatur

    RE DEEZ: “Catch me doing pull ups on the dont walk sign” is that supposed to be fresh? Is that a hot line to you? That’s str8 GABAGE! CAM BLOWS, JIM BLOWS, DIP SET and JUELZ Blows! NEW YORK BLOWS! Where the rappers @? Where is the trendsetters? The Trail Blazers? All I see is some fakers, style takers….

  • q461

    yall are crazy this is a good look….too many acts these days break up…This is a good look for both Cam and Jimmy… DIPSET!

  • Will

    Their run is over, shit happens… The only nigga that had a buzz outta them these last couple years was Max B, and that nigga in jail

  • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

    “CAM BLOWS, JIM BLOWS, DIP SET and JUELZ Blows! NEW YORK BLOWS!”

    ^ The WHOLE state? That was extra fam.

    If a mufukka can have the whole world wearing pink I can consider that trend-setting. Juelz had the Bandana, Jim had the rock star slash biker apparel.

    Can we not see Cam in Wayne’s rhymes? Those crews have been coolin’ together for a minute (Jae Millz or Juelz/Wayne). I’m just saying, it’s always been you listen to Cam or you don’t (in NY you fuX with them Harlem n*ggas or you don’t). But son has rocked with the elite and been blessed with longevity in this fickle rap world. Cam’s the other n*gga besides Game (which they did a song together w/Jim) & Beans that went @ Jay & 50.

    Curtis>Funeral Music (song and video)

    Killa Season>Before I Self Destruct (movie)

    Paid In Full=GRODT

    And he puts his people on, this can’t be denied.

    I just don’t understand how cats believe the press in a dude like Drake is valid but the press on the Dips isn’t justified. One is preference, the other is interest.

    • The Decatur Dictator

      I was talking about something from the last 5 years.

      • El Tico Loco

        For the last 5 years NO REGION been trailblazin shit, not to mention the nicest muthafuckas in the A live west of the connector(except for Shawty lo) but I give u b.o.b. NY been getting jacked for shit that mainstream niggas pass as their own to the uninformed e.g. Kanye vs Lo Lifes any hint of lyricism has NY DNA that lingers 20 years after the fact. No NY has not made any significant noise COLLECTIVELY in 5 years

      • El Tico Loco

        For the last 5 years NO REGION been trailblazin shit, not to mention the nicest muthafuckas in the A live west of the connector(except for Shawty lo) but I give u b.o.b. NY been getting jacked for shit that mainstream niggas pass as their own to the uninformed e.g. Kanye vs Lo Lifes or Lil’ Wayne after GTK left Cash Money. What’s hot now will only be hot for now is going on 18 years and we still talk about 36 Chambers or Illmatic and so. Drop 5 rappers out right now that we gonna talk about in let’s say 5 years? I’ll wait … *crickets* probably the same ones we’ve talking about for the last 20.

    • these posts are racist

      Syk,

      Co-sign…per usual.

    • Sincere

      co-sign $yk

      people forget the impact these guys had/have, the dips started that whole rockstar style that people are still rocking with to this day.

      @ decatur dicktaker
      i suggest you go back and listen to children of the corn, confessions of fire, s.d.e., come home with me, diplomatic immunity 1

      • The Decatur Dictator

        Well, I just wrote a rap for ya-

        Sincerly yours….

  • thoreauly77

    why do you keep writing “oxymoron?” when you mean “redundancy”? stop that shit.

    • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

      LOLZ

      How’s it going thoreauly? Hope all is well.

      Cap what’s up?

      • Capital G

        What’s good $yk? Over here tryin to figure out what Decatur Dicktaster”s problem with NY is. Homegirl is salty as hell, like the whole city molested him as a kid or some shit.

  • hotelfrost

    They need somebody to beef with.

  • sway-z

    To be honest, 90% of Lil Wayne’s whole shit came from Dipset. He took that rap/rockstar shit Jim & Juelz had and ran with it, from the clothes to the image

  • caino

    ‘Maybe it was so good it was hard for white people to appreciate ironically, and that’s why they’ve since moved on to Gucci Mane.’

    oh Snap!! but Bol may have a valid point tho….for once. lol

  • EscoHov

    Crime pays was the shit, for a camron album indeed

  • The Decatur Dictator

    TO “Capital G”: Actually New York has been “Molesting” the residents not me homie, now before you go throwing darts let’s make it clear that I have no problems with New York, I have a problem with the rap music in New York- get it str8 home boi. I undestand that you have to defend the honor of new york, no problem, but you can’t stand under something you don’t understand and you don’t understand the heritage of New York rap music, where everything new can from NYC 1st-now it’s the exact opposite. Just saying….Those molestation jokes, I’ll give you a pass this time, next time I will put you on blast on every blog that ever post to this site.

    • Iz

      Fuck u u Georgia ass faggot. The whole state is on the DL. The only thing u want to put on blast in your cum up a niggas asshole

      • The Decatur Dictator

        Wow “Iz”…hey, does “Iz” stand for yo’ mama “Iz” a prostitute? Just asking. Anyway, it’s funny you should mention that because all of the “DL” folks actually migrated to Georgia from New York and California during the late 90′s early 2000′s. It’s funny though because growing up there-we didn’t have the “DL” population-it wasn’t until the freaks from other cities decided on running from the law, child support and eviction to Georgia because of the low cost housing market. But hey, it is what it is…you can’t stop the “Iz” from coming south if they want too. But, since you said those dispicable things about me-I will have to spaz–You’ll soon see. Holla.

      • The Decatur Dictator

        And where did you come from anyway? Coming to the aid of another dude…Suspect dude….Iz to the rescue!!!! Save a hoe. You a rusthaven for ho’s-you iz a car thief.

        • Capital G

          Pardon the late response, your mom had a vet appointment this morning, had to get them booster shots. Don’t want the bitch to catch fleas and ticks this summer. Look DICKTASTER, feel free to “put me on blast” with your e-thuggery.

          ” let’s make it clear that I have no problems with New York”

          “NEW YORK BLOWS”
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          -All your words. Confused a little?

          “you don’t understand the heritage of New York rap music”

          Say word son. I’m born and raised on this shit. Never once have you heard anything remotely disrespectful about your region come out of my mouth. You ask where the trendsetters are. The whole rockstar style was adopted by Jones and Santana first, then the rest followed. Your problem is you’re mad the culture you think you know so much about started in NYC. Somewhere you’re never gonna understand, relate to, or be a part of. Loud mouth cowards such as yourself will never be safe up here. We’re cut from a different cloth, yours just so happens to be made of Victoria’s Secret leftovers. Now feel free to retort, just make sure you spellcheck everything first.

        • The Decatur Dictator

          I’ll let the mama joke slide-but check – the reason I know NY is because I’m from NY (198 st and Murdock) Queens-Jamaica to be exact-some will say Hollis, the mail will say St Albans-whatever the case- I grew up there when the music in NY was at a deafning level boi. I grew up there when you couldn’t walk to the park 197st/113th ave without the park being pack with impromtu battles-DJ’s getting power from Con-Ed light post-Hip Hop son!-today in NY is quiet…no one is looking to New York for the next hotness, they are looking elsewhere, why? Because kids in the 5 bouroughs lost the hunger to be creative. Everybody wants to be ‘already famous’-Just saying dude, NY need to get back to the essence of Hip Hop and take control again and stop riding off of the past. They don’t need to go to the south for features, they need to make the south come to them. Just saying-Do Marley Marl, Chuck Chillout,Cool DJRed Alert, Biz, Shan, Nas, Jay, Biggie, Big Daddy Kane, BDP,Rakim and the like- some justice man…they laid it out.

        • Capital G

          All childish shit to the side. Our little back and forth originates with the whole “NY blows” comments. If you’re really from up top then you know NYC is in your DNA, NYC IS hip-hop’s DNA. As opposed to throwing blind shots with reckless abandon, try making some positive suggestions fam. You’re obviously at least semi-intelligent, instead of spreading useless hate just to get a rise out of people (myself included) try shining some light on muthafuckas and drop knowledge. This rap shit is cyclical kid, what happens when the next phase ain’t the south? People from the west coast gonna be screaming “fuck the south!”? I don’t see that happening. Just drop the regional bias and make some strong suggestions as to what exactly it is that you think NYC is missing.

        • El Tico Loco

          What you said about hunger and creativity applies to all regions of the country not just New York; New York is just out of place in this picture because they’re supposed to set standards not follow trends. But for the last 5 years everybody been wack, lemme rewind; the wackness outnumbers the dopeness. Every era had wack emcees the difference is that now they rule the industry like some sorta bizzarro rap world.

  • Iz

    I’m a faggot!

  • Iz

    I’m a faggot!!!!

  • Iz

    I meant, I Iz a faggot sorry….

  • MR. UNDI$PUTED THE MOGUL

    I DON’T CARE IF YOUR A DIPLOMAT FAN OR NOT. THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING STRICTLY FOR THE CHANCE TO MAKE $$$$! LET’S SEE CAM’RON HAD THE TALENT, RHYMES ETC. JIM WAS HIS FRIEND & HYPEMAN WITH NO TALENT AT ALL. THEY GOT WITH SOME OTHER FRIENDS HAD A LITTLE MINI DYNASTY BUILDING & THEN, WHEN JIM THOUGHT HE’D BECOME A STAR, HE DIDN’T NEED CAM ANYMORE. HE EVEN TOOK THE STAGE ALONG WITH JUELZ BASICALLY DURING THE LYRICAL BEEF WITH 50 CENT, WHO HAD THE NERVE TO SAY THAT CAM WAS BEING DEMOTED WITHIN THE CREW HE WAS LEADER OF. NOW ABOUT 2 YEAR’S LATER, JIM’S CAREER & ALL THOSE WACK ASS SIDE PROJECTS HAVE FLOPPED & NOW HE WANTS TO BE FRIENDS AGAIN. CAM IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TALENT WHETHER WITH THE DIPS OR NOT, SO THEY NEED HIM, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. NO ONE IS FUCKING WITH JIM, JUELZ OR ZEEKEY OR WAITING ON ANY OF THEIR ALBUMS, MEANWHILE THE STREETS ARE FUCKING WITH BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 2 & 2.5 AS WELL AS VADO IS HEATING SHIT UP. ALL I CAN SAY TO CAM IS I HOPE WHATEVER YOUR GETTIN PAID FOR THIS IS WORTH YOUR DIGNITY. THESE 2 LITERALLY STABBED YOU IN THE BACK & DIDN’T STAND BESIDE YOU AGAINST 50 CENT LIKE THEY WILL ON THE ALBUM COVER THEY’RE GOING TO GET PAID FROM!

    PEACE & GET MONEY!!!
    MOGUL $$$ GAME ‘10!!

    • The Decatur Dictator

      @ “Capital G”- My “New York Blows” statement derives from certain comments people are making to justify the music coming from the Empire State. I got love for NY and that’s why I’m so pissed at NY (it’s a love hate)-Why do New Yorkers have to ride on other regions when they should be making their own lane? That’s my argument-Be NEW YORK! Be Coney Island, BE BED STUY, BE Fulton ST…New York is rich with hip hop heritage man-I remember when everyone wanted to be from NY fake accent and all…now? Nope.To El Tico Loco: You are right, the last 5 years in hip hop have been forgettable at best, a few gems many fugazi’s-But you know what? it’s the buying publics fault, if we wasn’t mentioning these wack rappers that put out that garbabge, if we wasn’t buying their music or going to their shows, things would get better. They would be forced to change for the better. Now, it’s stat quo in the industry. Ride on the wave of wackness like OJ the Juice Man, Gucci Mane (he is the absolute worst!!!) and all the other non rapping, same beat having folks.

      • Capital G

        Good lookin out on the clarification, sincerely. All in all we can agree on a mutual hatred of Gucci Mane.

        • The Decatur Dictator

          No Doubt, GUCCI MANE should be banned from making music in the states. He should be reduced to making music in India or some crap, dude is disrespecting my music with that gabage. I’ll listen to and BUY an old LL “To the break of Dawn” cut before I listen to a new Gucci Mane track. We have to start demanding good hip hop man. Mos Def told us years ago this was going to happen, now look.

        • Capital G

          Jeezy – Trap or Die 2. Shit is fire. I see this getting heavy summer time play. Support the South! (see? we can all get along)

        • The Decatur Dictator

          I feel ya homie, Jeezy doing his thing, We’ll see how the summer turns out. Support reall Hip Hop! 1

  • http://www.bboycult.com $yk

    I hear what you’re saying Decatur.

    *Recognize the fact that new york aint’ sh*t

    ^ but you typed this.

    But I’ll impose this question, since we’ve all witnessed the regression of rap music overall in the last 5 years, why do we still resort to pointing fingers at regions?

    Shouldn’t it be about the artists?

    • The Decatur Dictator

      Excellent point, the artist make sure that WE (the music consuming public) know where they are from, what city they rep, how they grew up in their hood and what their hood entails through their percieved “hood tales”, with that said, they volunteered that information to us,we didn’t ask for it- therfore we have to hold that artist AND region accountable becuase thats how it was presented to us in the first place. Case & point: Nelly, when he came out it was all St. Louis, ” I want to do this for the Lou”…then the “St. Lunatics”…that’s how they presented the product to us, think of Biggie, he comes out screaming “Brooklyn!”-that’s what he presented to us, so succeed or fail we are looking at the city as being responsible for that artist. That’s how hip hop has always been. New York Artist represented New York, Cali Artist represented the left coast, that’s the chemical make up of the art form…

  • BIGNAT

    Bol you a dick cam been dropping fire crime pays did good it was on a indie cam got his money. cam was gone for awhile because his mom was sick fuck the rap shit you gotta take care of fam. you write about this rap shit do some fucking research. cam can survive without jim it don’t work the other way around. cam bringing the dipset back together he contacting the heatmakers. he doing it because he the boss and niggas are learning you do better with cam than without him. they getting back together bringing that heat back to the streets

  • http://www.emcdl.com EmCDL

    I never been a big fan of the Dipset (especially when Cam started rapping that rediculous ‘computers computin’ nonsense) but when they were together, you gotta admit, dudes was bringing the heat. Them beats were fire, and just their presence on a track got you hyped. Now if Cam can get back on his S.D.E. ish I’d be down for this comeback….

  • DoubleUp

    Cam is on his way back up with the UN. Vado probably has the most buzz of any new rapper in NYC right now. At this point he knows he does not need to get the Dips back together since he has Vado who is his new Elz. Jimmy is done though, he has to crawl back to Cam and kiss the ring. Cam owns the Diplomat/Dipset name/brand.

    Jimmy should’ve stayed Capo and not tried to be the Boss of All Bosses.

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