Lloyd Banks and the Buffalo Bills Throwback

I was waiting for more details to emerge before weighing in on the Lloyd Banks Canadian beatdown, but fuck it. We’re only going to get statements from Chris Hines. I guess we’ll have to go with those, my fellow haters.

Based on the overwhelming support to add Banks to the 2010 DN Tournament field, I assume most of you are aware what happened in the most cut-and-dry of senses. For reasons still unbeknownst to us, Hines got the Choclair beaten out of him by Banks’ team.

[Blogger's Note: Ice Cold is the first album I've ever returned to a store for an exchange. I got Only Built 4 Cuban Linx for the third time, as it always got lifted from my place as soon as I could replace it around that time.]

While it may have been an ass-ignorant and suckerish move, there was definitely no sissyslapping going on in Hines’ encounter. The shit sounds like the polar opposite of that Kid Cudi’s Canadian beatdown scenario in every way possible.

Hines denies allegations that the dispute involved money, claiming that Banks was paid in advance. So, why in the fuck would a nigga face assault and false imprisonment charges? Could it have been something Hines said back at the club? “Hey, Banks. That set was a little short, bro. Can we get a second song or something?” I don’t know the Canadian legal system too well, but the latter charge can land you Wilt Chamberlain numbers stateside. What could have been worth it? I know I shouldn’t judge a book by its cover, but Hines looks soft as a cotton ball. Maybe that’s why he was chosen for the beatdown.

[Blogger's Note: Not like imprisonment is an effective deterrent for niggerishness or anything.]

If you must send a message with a beatdown, don’t go after a weakling. Doing so says more about your own cowardice. I switched schools a few times growing up. Not to divulge too much personal information, but I was usually the biggest and strongest kid at every stop. I played basketball everywhere, but if they had football teams in my part of the country, I’d have been on that shit cracking heads. This made me a target for the wannabe hard rocks. I’m by no means a violent nigga, but I had to put down the horsehead-in-the-bed beatdown on a challenger to set the tone at every school.

My point being, I was consistently perceived as a threat at every new stop. I always knew it was coming before it did. Niggas took shots. Niggas got neutralized quick-fast. They were looking for stripes. I was a game buck, so to speak. I get it. On the same coin, the ones who needed a football team’s worth of niggas to run a poindexter for his McDonald’s money and transit pass after school were all exposed as cowards at some point.

[Blogger's Note: I'm a warrior. So, let that be known.]

Banks’ scenario sounds like the shit they got O.J. Simpson for. A nigga might have the Bills throwback, but I can imagine he wouldn’t want to be in a position to get it signed right about now. Have we learned nothing from Nordberg’s [many] miscues?

Banks should come out with a mixtape called “If I Had Beaten The Shit Out of Chris Hinds, Here’s How I Would Have Done Did It.” Is dude trying to supplant Tony Yayo as G-Unit lead goon? Clearly the collective isn’t putting its best efforts into selling rap music anymore.

Let’s say we find out Banks felt his manhood was tested based on a short. On what planet does fucking somebody up get you the money faster? Professionals know there is a legal process that handles these things. I’m sure one call to the label’s team of twerpy lawyers who absolutely live for instances of funds withheld. Instead, Banks is working in the direction of making sure he can never get Canadian money ever again. I wouldn’t be cutting off access to fans at this point. Where else can Lloyd Banks tour? As the homie KMD pointed out, ThisIs50 Fest isn’t gonna happen every weekend.

Now, if anyone’s going to be throwing down paper, it’ll be Christopher Lloyd—fucking Doc Brown himself. If a nigga could go back in time a few weeks, I bet he wouldn’t have been such a coward. Hmm… Hold that thought. No Marty McFly could help his reasoning process If he was that dumb to do the dirt in the first place.

Too bad Banks did this shit after New Year’s Eve. He’d probably be Sweet Sixteen-bound.

Questions? Comments? Requests? Will they bury me a G? ron@ronmexicocity.com

  • http://www.bboycult.com $ykotic/Don McCaine

    This dude Hines said he sat on his hands yo. I still can’t stop laughing, he’s proud of that sh*t.

    I can image cats getting running starts, twirling their fists like the Tasmanian Devil’s feet, hitting that dude with sure fire punches while his skull was trying to take flight off of his neck.

    Pudding pop ass n*gga…

    • General

      “This dude Hines said he sat on his hands yo. I still can’t stop laughing, he’s proud of that sh*t.”

      He should be proud of that shit. He’s about to make more money off doin that than he did off the show that nobody wanted to see. The difference between him and Banks is that he was smart enough to know that a physical altercation was gonna lead to nothing but legal and financial trouble. I know you think you got it all figured out Syk, but there is too sides to this story and it wasn’t all about the appearance fee that this beating occured if at all

      • http://www.bboycult.com $ykotic/Don McCaine

        “I know you think you got it all figured out Syk, but there is too sides to this story”

        ^^^ *yawns* IT’S ALWAYS SOMETHING. ALWAYS.

        Chris Hines would spend more money in lawyer fees than anything. And making less money promoting.

        “The longtime G-Unit promoter”-job loss

        “Ducharme (Banks’ lawyer) believes the case won’t go to trial until next year.”-push back syndrome

        How is Chris proud of this? I see him losing $, I don’t think artists would be as eager to deal with him now because of the circumstances of this situation.

  • El Tico Loco

    So he(Hines)sat on his hands, because he felt that if he fought back there won’t be a win, are u serious?
    Who’s gonna redeem Canadians? Drake?

    Both of them need to be in the DN invitational Tournament (DNIT)

    • geico lizard

      Lloyd Banks was arrested for holding a MAN hostage. Banks is the real loser in this on so many levels.

      Canada is eternally the loser that is understood so we dont have to say it that much. Canada is like an even gayer and weaker version of France.

  • yeah man

    Chris Hines is setting the groundwork for his lawsuit with every interview. That nigga aint no gangsta or tough guy, but he’s a slick little man still and he knows how to get paid lots of ways. That youth dey just won the lottery, big man. Chess not checkers. You couldn’t pay me enuff to take a box from any man, but its not like the man is kissing his make-believe daddy to get paid. You see it.

  • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grands

    Word on the street is Drake is mad. As. Fuck.

    Niggas up in his neck of the woods slapping moose meat & maple syrup out of niggas. Kid Cudi & Banks should do a mixtape called “Fuck You Tawkin’ Aboot?!”

    Coincedentally, his mixtape, V5, dropped Monday. Just saying.

    • Jerm

      lol Im from Canada, Toronto actually. But thats some of the funniest shit I read…

      “Word on the street is Drake is mad. As. Fuck.

      Niggas up in his neck of the woods slapping moose meat & maple syrup out of niggas. Kid Cudi & Banks should do a mixtape called “Fuck You Tawkin’ Aboot?!””

      hilarious

  • DetroitDraper

    Random but I just got that Kid Cudi album after reading all the hype and suprisingly I love it. Its really a great album if you can relate or put yourself into that mood.

    @MEX I feel you man I moved around alot too(moms obviously wasnt keepin up wit the bills) and I went to about 4 middle schools in a three year span. Im 6’4 255 now and I was’nt much smaller then lol so I faced a many of battles with older brothers, cousins and such who were either way older or bigger. But it made me stronger.

    MAYN HOL’UP

    • http://www.ronmexicocity.com Ron Mexico

      kid cudi’s album is totally emo, and you definitely need to be in a certain zone to enjoy it.

      emo aside, a lot of it is very catchy. i definitely understand his talent. i wouldn’t sit down to a large helping of cudi. but i will admit that to this day i still catch myself murmuring the chorus to “simple as.”

      • Detroit P

        Simpleas that, simpleas that for ya simple ass HA!..Ron quit frontin you kno thats yo new favorite rapper..er..singer..or I dont know what to call it when you hum words, there needs to be a name for that….but yea Ron you be goin to sleep listenin to his shit on repeat and “Up Up and Away” is your mornin alarm, stop playin.

      • DetroitDraper

        Lmao @DetroitP but yea it is emo but just like Z-RO man that shit is somethin new and kinda needed to balance out your usual gangsta crime/drug raps. Its just very real especially Z-ro, dude touch topics that have’nt been hit since Tupac lol but for real check out some of that Ro and you go feel it..

        MAYN HOL’UP

    • DetroitDraper

      Lmao @DetroitP but yea it is emo but just like Z-RO man that shit is somethin new and kinda needed to balance out your usual gangsta crime/drug raps. Its just very real especially Z-ro, dude touch topics that have’nt been hit since Tupac lol but for real check out some of that Ro and you go feel it.

      MAYN HOL’UP

  • avidmexfan

    Thank you Grands…

    no one else can see the publicity stunt this is?

    For Banks, it works 2 ways. First, if he’s guilty (which he probably is), he probably figures the two days in jail (Canadian jail at that), and the lawyer fees and settlement costs would certify his gangsta cuz he “beat the case” and he could stop renewing his g-pass under the false name Curtis Jackson. Plus he could finally brag about going to jail which really is all Yayo had to go on in the first place.

    Secondly if he didn’t do it and it really is just publicity stuntin 101, then it helped sell a few mixtapes (3 to be exact – 50′s copy, yayo’s copy, and the one Banks made his nephew buy). Atleast let people know that he has a new new mixtape out cuz lord knows i didn’t. I’m lying, I knew just didn’t care!

    • oskamadison

      @avidmexfan

      Yo, you caught that one.

  • Enlightened

    On this planet whoopin somebody ass get your money faster.

    You thinkin of it wrong with the show money shit. Niggas on his level live on that shit. They got bills. They got expenses. Remember the Beanie Sigel story about having 2 Bentley notes that around $2400 a piece or something. These niggas bills be just like ours – DUE. Except they shit bigger, and them niggas be countin on that just like we do them paychecks on that Friday.

    They can’t depend on suing somebody for something that you won’t get a judgement on until months or more likely years later. Plus he’ll spend close to or more than $5000 in the lawyer and court fees doing that shit. Professionals might be able to do that shit – professional CEOs, not professional MCs.

    Think how many local niggas can afford to put on a show where the act is only getting $5000. You can’t be trying to depend on getting back in touch with a low level show promoter in another city, let alone another country.

    You said yo self you used to be that big nigga whoopin niggas at school. You should know an ass whoopin can do the trick – sometimes.

    But that explains why they did it to a lame like you was sayin. It’s understood that if you whoop anybody nowadays besides a lame – especially one with at least enough money to promote a Lloyd Banks show – it’s a high likelihood that that shit will end up in gunplay.

    • http://www.ronmexicocity.com Ron Mexico

      you bring up an excellent point. i don’t agree with the physical altercation being the answer for a show money stiffing–which doesn’t seem to be the case anyway. i just put that out there as a scenario.

      the everyday, working-guy musician has to come up with another plan if someone’s fucking with his show money. it’s one thing to show your teeth. a tough, serious exterior can be a fine preventative measure. but assault isn’t gonna get you paid. it’ll just be keeping it real gone wrong, at best.

      as for my personal anecdote, i didn’t share my experience of getting into fistfights in my youth to poke my chest out or prove anything. i was a target and i had to defend myself physically. i never threw the hands based off of words, matters of GP or anything like that. if i had it my way, i’d never have gotten into ANY of the scuffles. with that said, i’ve never lost a fair one. but i have been jumped. not fun.

      that brings me to the other warning, which you touch on. being the big nigga in a fight means you DON’T always see a fair one. and being the size of a grown-ass man as a youngster meant seeing some older siblings and parents after school. i am just lucky it didn’t go where so many squabbles end up… the firearm. not all of my school pals are breathing today.

      if anything, that’s what nigga believe it takes to bring down “deebo.” the “sword” is where today’s cowards turn. i guess it’s the same principle as jumping a nigga. too scared to throw a fair one.

      • Enlightened

        Yeah, I see you wasn’t glorifying that shit. It’s just funny because my older brother was that nigga so I know.

        It’s funny though, you got two sizes of big nigga like that. The big size you talkin about where you always have to fight all the time, or SHAQ SIZED big ass niggas where they never have to fight.

        At the end of the day, like you say, he can’t just go whooping people ass for show money and expect it not to end up bad for him. All niggas can do on that level really is make sure the business is handled up front. “I don’t have all my money, I’m not performing.”

        I forgot the fact that this nigga don’t even have a record deal right now! He really want all his!

      • oskamadison

        You know, I wonder if that shit ever happened to Freddie Foxxx…

  • Brooklyn

    as a kid of underaverage weight and average height, i was always having to show niggas that i was a threat. they thought because a nigga was scrawny that he wasn’t nice with his hands. nevertheless, i dealt with my fair share of niggas like banks and his crew, 4 niggas that’ll run up on you acting all tough but when you corner one of them niggas by themselves they crying and begging your forgiveness more than a sinner on judgment day. it didn’t take the whole posse to lay the smackdown on dude, banks himself could have handled that. and as for drake, what the fuck that nigga gonna do? run up on cudi and banks with tyga, wayne, and nikki minaj?

  • http://www.bboycult.com $ykotic/Don McCaine

    That’s peace E. You’re right.

    Now this dude is caught up in some other sh*t, over this lame who sits on his hands and takes a beatdown for some clown sh*t he did and f***ed up the money from the door. In another country at that.

    The whole trip was as loss. Not even thinking about all the stuff set up after that trip.

    • http://www.ronmexicocity.com Ron Mexico

      sometimes a loss is a loss. however, i don’t think it needs to be a loss for someone of lloyd banks’ stature.

      of course, we are always entitled to disagree. just wanted to clarify my stance on it for you and enlightened.

      • http://www.bboycult.com $ykotic/Don McCaine

        “All niggas can do on that level really is make sure the business is handled up front. “I don’t have all my money, I’m not performing.”

        ^^^ This

  • http://www.justice.gov.za Chiliz

    I read on sohhh that Jayz has accepted a challange on Angie Martinez show 2 show off his bank account against Baby/Wayne 2 determined who got the most.

  • giantstepp

    Banks has absolutely nothing to gain, and everything to loose from this situation! Surely they have a machine of high powered lawyers at their disposal to handle situations. He should’ve exercised that option. Dude who got beat down was obviously a pussy, and where Im from, beating down a pussy never meant shit! Ok, maybe dude earned it in principal, but some shit you gotta let ride. Many a dude sitting in the Pen right the fuck now wishing they would’ve let the situation ride.

  • Jhon da Analyst

    Damn Banks….epic fail. That’s like kickin Terrance and Philip’s asses………..Oh Candadaaaaaa!!!

  • macdatruest

    Lloyd Banks is a washed up “coulda been” he’s done….

    One album he was robot-grover. The next album after Game killed that nigga he start tryna harmonize like Fiddy. Basically the nigga just pussy pie. Them niggas only whoop kids and soft niggas.

    I remember in a recent Fiddy (r.i.p.) interview when they asked him was Jay-Z talkin about him when he said numbers dont lie and laughed knowingly during his attempted beef wit Jay. Fiddy said “Nah, I hope not. If he was I wish he would let me know so we can turn the mic off and get to the shit” Thats when I knew he was a actin’ ass ho ass nigga.

    Ross ASKIN for the beef, which niggas wasnt supposed to do wit Fiddy cause supposedly he was some sort of bully in NY, and big bad Fiddy went into straight, pure long distance comedy/shopping spree mode. Now Jay simply say, “numbers dont lie” and the nigga dont wanna rap, do comedy take Beyonce shopping, nothing. Nigga wanna fight- BUT only because he know Jay-Z done moved on from Beefing or Cooning for dollars.

    Niggas is straight pussy. Tote guns and tape convos. Defend the nigga that smack kids up (Yayo), but kick the nigga out the group who down to catch a murder charge(Young Buck)
    Aint no G’s in the Unit just toy soldiers waitin until Fiddy assign them to a beef he cant handle aka all of them. FUCK FLOYD SHANKS

    • Enlightened

      Damn! And it ain’t too much to be said behind that one LOL
      It’s some true talk in there.

    • BIGNAT

      just wanted to bring this up buck went after 50 first. tried to clown him then tried to ask him for help. bottom line if the man who helped you make your money ask for your loyality is that to much to ask. buck listened to other people who were not helping him get money. buck fucked up his money and fif helped him once. then he clowned him then needed more help that was when fif taped him because he saw a pattern.

  • http://dasteamwerkmusik.blogspot.com bollocks

    Yo Mex –

    Cosign everything in this post, and LOLzz @ “I don’t know the Canadian legal system too well, but the latter charge can land you Wilt Chamberlain numbers stateside.”

    This is the epitome of SDN shit, but I guess Lloyd will have to wait till next year to see that trophy.

    Also, on a serious tip, thank you for your realistic portrayal of physical altercations and their repercussions. SMH @ people talkin about “he shouldn’t have let no man put they hands on him.” Yeah, that’s definitely a diss, but the dude is a promoter. If Lloyd had gotten laid out (yeah right), best believe that would’ve been Hines’ last gig. Ain’t no retirement plan for 30-year-old promoters with no trade skills.

    Then again, maybe he could’ve copped a job as head of the Canadian wing of Kid Cudi’s security.

  • P. Harris

    Ron,

    I bought Ice Cold too. I was well disappointed because Flagrant got so many spins on the the underground hip hop station…

    except there was no returning my shit, Mr. Freeze Records had a strict, “don’t bring that shit back, you bought it…” rule. Had to take that L… Luckily I got my on hands on Dead Prez joint… I was good then.

  • BIGNAT

    ” I’m by no means a violent nigga, but I had to put down the horsehead-in-the-bed beatdown on a challenger to set the tone at every school.” i feel you on that ron i was not jumping alot from school to school but mom made me wear the unifrom up until 8th grade. now to the goons of the school if you in a uniform = soft. i would let them crack all the jokes they wanted just don’t touch me. i remember tis one spanish guy he was with his boys talking lots of shit spit in my face. i wiped it off and walked away 1 to 8 is not good numbers. i knew them punks would fight dirty so i kept it moving. fount out where he lived got up early one morning waited for him in front of his building. homie walked out saw me started talking alot of shit. i simply told him you don’t realize you alone right. i laid him out in front of his own building and took his bookbag to school. give it to his peoples and told them he won’t be in for awhile hahaha. i had no problems with none of them after that day they still talked shit. just not in my face they talked it behind my back like the little bitches they were.

  • Ste

    banks did wht he felt he had to do who knows but who the fuck wud want tony yayo as leadin g-unit goon… he’s shit