Chicago: Just like Haiti?

When I saw that there was an article over at MTV News in which Lupe Fiasco agreed with Bill O’Reilly that the South Side of Chicago is like Haiti, I was all prepared to jump off in Lupe’s ass. No homo.

You know how Lupe Fiasco is: he likes to take a controversial stance on an issue, to make himself look smart, but he just ends up making himself look dumb. In the 2008 presidential election, he famously came out against his fellow Muslim Chicagoan Barack Obama. Which I could kinda get with – I’ve been saying Obama is the puppet on the left, long before he bailed out Wall Street rather than Main Street, failed to get us single payer health care or even so much as a public option, squandered an historic opportunity to make any real progress on climate change, so on and so forth. But instead of throwing his support behind someone who might have been able to save this country – and, by extension, the world – before it was too late, Lupe endorsed Hillary Clinton, of all people. The fuck kind of bullshit is that? Not only is Hillary to the right of Barack Obama (and not on anything that you might want her to be, like putting up a fence, or forcing Muslims to travel by train), but I think people are finally starting to learn that there’s a price to be paid for supporting women in important elections. Would Barack Obama be president today, if John McCain hadn’t selected Sarah Palin as his running mate?  Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat now belongs to a Republican former male model, in part because he ran against a woman.

[Take as much time as you need to reflect on that last sentence.]

And now here Lupe Fiasco was cosigning Bill O’Reilly, the most hated cable news host in all of hip-hop. (Most loved: Campbell Brown, natch.) O’Reilly, on his Bold & Fresh (How I Like My Women) Tour with Glenn Beck, essentially said that it’s pointless to donate any money to Haiti, even if it’s not through Wyclef Jean’s charity, because no matter how much money you send down there, it never gets any better, and in that sense, it’s like the South Side of Chicago. He wasn’t drawing a connection between the plight of black people throughout the diaspora, he was making an argument against coming to their assistance. Because they’re just gonna spend it all on crack. It’s an argument not unlike the one put forth by that guy Paul Shirley, a white guy who played for the Chicago Bulls for a few weeks back in the aughts, and now blogs for ESPN for a living. Er, he used to, until he got canned the other day, for saying he wouldn’t send so much as a dime down to Haiti. Because why bother, if they’re gonna insist on living buildings that aren’t structurally sound, and breeding as if they were jackrabbits? You get the idea that this is how a lot of white people feel about Haiti, it’s just that the only ones willing to cop to it are Bubba the Love Sponge, some guy who wasn’t good enough to play in the NBA, and motherfucking Bill O’Reilly. And shit, probably a lot of black people, too. These things usually tend to be a lot more complex than just black vs. white.

Is that how Lupe Fiasco feels about Haiti? I doubt it, which is why I’m hesitant to jump off in his ass, to use what I’m assuming is the parlance of prison Islam. It sounds like MTV may have just told him that Bill O’Reilly said the South Side of Chicago is like Haiti, and then shoved a mic in his face. Which he then took as an opportunity to point out that, yeah, the South Side of Chicago is kinda like Haiti. The South Side of Chicago is poor and corrupt, and Haiti is also poor and corrupt. We’ve all seen that video of Derrion Albert getting his head split open to the white meat. I don’t know for a fact that shit like that happens in Haiti, but I’m willing to believe that it’s true, just based on what I’ve seen on cable news these past few weeks. That’s probably why the Red Cross was so scared to hand out bottled water. They might want to have a team of scientists look into creating a bottle of water that’s sturdy enough to be dropped on a country from above. If people get killed fighting over it, that’ll just thin out the population a little bit, thus killing two birds with one stone. Alas, this was the extent of Lupe’s analysis. As if anyone actually needed him to go on TV and explain that poverty in one place is like poverty in another place, except that it’s in a different place. The question is: why is there such poverty in the first place? As was the case with Kanye West at that Hurricane Katrina telethon, you wish Lupe had a stronger grasp on the issues. He’s got the platform.

  • Enlightened

    If they think the South side of Chi is like Haiti, then GOTDAMN, what must they think about the West side?

  • chiTown

    considering I been livin here my whole life it really is a jungle. Its sad that kids can’t walk down the street without thinkin they’ll be robbed or jumped. I’m a teenager myself and I can’t go to parties without someone fightin. Its sad that my city puts all the money into the downtown area but don’t put it into any other areas and then they hold ceasefire rallys everytime a child is killed but it never works cuz a kid gets killed the same day..shit is crazy out here man.

    • NotoriousAGC

      im from L.A. homie, how you think WE feel with downtown L.A.,HOLLYWOOD ETC, and carson,compton,watts etc are still lookin like they haven’t been renovated since 1954 and shit…they don’t think it’s a good idea to invest in places with so many minorities to get rid of, they rather live in their dream cities mid-class minority free….it is what it is they say(the ghey white people)

  • JAY STONE

    spot on bol

  • hate

    from what i’ve heard and seen from lupe of late, his views and opinions seem to be becoming more clear and sensical.
    it’s funny you too beef cuz as time progresses your views on a lot of shit are the same

    and your both truthers

  • Deadly MIME

    Yo I’m back again the silent killer! Anyway, So from what I’m reading. Chi-town is like Port-Au-Prince? GTFOH!!!! Just because the Chi has a problem with street violence, doesn’t compare to a whole country that has stuggle since we gained our independence since the 1800′s. Haiti before the earthquake didn’t have that much we had little. Now we aint got shit. Now I never been to Chicago in my life so I cant say that its not teriible. It probably is, but to compare it to a 3rd world country? yes young brothers die everyday from there. yes this s true, but in Haiti people die for political reasons, they die over their bullshit government, and they die cause theres little food to survive. Whoever wrote this shit is really trying to make the violence in Chi-town more than what it is

    • ILL WILL

      I agree with u, Im from the CHI, the streets is mad crazy, but the city is not that poor, sure politics is corrupt, but overal the people of Chicago is blessed even tho thers tons of violence!

      • 619

        Real shit, Chi is no where close to what Haiti is. Not too many people in America know what a third world country looks like. These people are fighting over food and water supplies that just came fresh off a plane. Cats from Chicago wouldn’t even survive in Mexico right now.

  • tensensi

    Money donated to the Red Cross goes to the World Bank who decides how to allocate it.

    40% of all U.S. money currently going to Haiti is used for “security forces” – either U.S. military or private Blackwater-type firms.

  • http://www.bboycult.com $ykotic/Don McCaine

    “Money donated to the Red Cross goes to the World Bank who decides how to allocate it.”

    ^ Could this be the reason behind the Yele slander campaign?

    Chicago? I’m more concerned about Detroit…

    • http://www.jamal7mile.blogspot.com Jamal7Mile

      You. Ain’t. Never. Lied!

      From the (ex) Mayor’s office to the streets, everything is back-assward.

      • http://www.bboycult.com $ykotic/Don McCaine

        Real talk. Detroit & Pittsburgh are industrial places we have to watch, these are places that will tell if and when we get out of this rut. Man is not paying attention.

  • El Tico Loco

    No U.S. slum compares to the level of poverty outside these borders, why you think we will try to come here and struggle under these conditions rather than our old ones? Because there the upward mobility is not as accessible as it is here, if is done correctly. The cause of poverty here is more based on oppression and mental conditioning, that’s why some people make it out the hood and some don’t. Let’s not mention that most things Americans turn their nose up to or take for granted is an upgrade to us that made it out of our countries(eg standard hot water, heat or a/c for the south). Besides being stuck in O’hare in what seems every flight I take, I haven’t been to Chicago but I bet is not no Haiti. Haiti don’t really even got pretty shit to put on postcards at least Chicago or even my home country which is Costa Rica if u were wondering (grew up in Panama tho) got shit we can show to bring tourists over and goverments pour money into the attractions while “bad areas” don’t get to see a dime in some case not even decent safety necesities.

  • SOUTHSIDE A-TOWN

    i dont really have anything to add to the argument… sorry fellas.
    i just came to say that xxlmag.com ‘mobile page’ sucks balls. when the fuck did they come up w/ that shit? i’m on the ipod one day & its like the regular site, the next day some mobile shit pops up & i’m like WTF? that shit is a terrible idea. its no bangers section, a nigga cant read the comments (they got some FAKE ass comments on there, like i wouldnt be able to tell the difference), gotta do some other shit to leave a comment, etc… Kill that shit xxl! 4real. SMH. y’all are falling off.

    • http://www.bboycult.com $ykotic/Don McCaine

      Word? A mobile page? Ha!

    • El Tico Loco

      Is worse if you got a blackberry you will have to scroll for 2 hours to get to an article after is selected.

  • http://www.jamal7mile.blogspot.com Jamal7Mile

    As much as I love Detroit, I think Chicago is a more beautiful city. Michigan Ave. (in Chicago) is dope, and the shopping/food trumps Motown. Detroit has a lot of great sites too. Downtown is off the chain! There’s a club for everyone, from the seedy, smoky, illegal blind pigs to the exquisite upscale cigar spots that visiting celebs frequent.

    Chitown and Detroit got its problems, but neither one are third world status. Yes, a lot of our residential areas suck, but we are a few rungs up the ladder from Haiti. Bill O’Really (sp?) over-exaggerated.

    • Will E. Will

      Exactly! There’s alot of poor cities, but compared to 3rd world countries?? Psssssh the shit is upper middle class lol. I’m originally from a 3rd world country, and a cple years ago I went to back to visit family, and couldnt believe how they were living. A toilet seat placed on top of a gallon paint bucket. Floors consisting of rugs laid on top of nicely swept, smooth dirt. I mean it was stupid poor! Ppl in the states got it good! They poor, yet have running water, electricity, and carpet. Just like the prisons. Prisons here are fuckin Hilton hotels compared to the cages in 3rd world countries. just my 2 cents

  • these posts are racist

    i’m not sure what your point is? I won’t even respond to Bill O’Rielly or Glen Beck.

    Why is there so much poverty? Um…slavery/institutional racism/and a concerted effort to keep wealth in the hands of few…give a few more a few shiney things and keep blacks on the s. side of Chi in their current conditions forever…

  • avenger xl

    Not even close Haiti is a real third world country folks. When we want to describe how bad something is in the states we say the black belt in Alabama has a infant mortality rate of a third world country(note: black belt refers to the soil not the residents).

    Secondly @ Tensensi”40% of all U.S. money currently going to Haiti is used for “security forces” – either U.S. military or private Blackwater-type firms”.

    Without some kind of secuirty detail you cannot pass out food or protect the innocent and fragile. So helping people and rebuilding becomes damn near impossible with mob rule. And all cultures resort to mob rule and gangs in compromised situation from the Yakuza to Italian mafia. You must cut off the rise of this kind of behavior due to the stress caused by the disaster.

    Yele works better as a organization to funnel in money to other orgs better equiped to fixing the problems. They can also keep attention on Haiti once the media finds another spectacle of human suffering to cash in on.

    Latly Bill O’reily and fool beck are talking heads paid to throw red meat to racists right wing wonks who don’t want to be labeled as such. They are ok with us fighting fictional wars until the sun explode but god forbid you spend a dime on humanitarian effort.

    • tensensi

      So if an earthquake hits Japan, the U.S. should send more troops to control the Yakuza? My my, how the U.S. is a global protector of peace!

      • Avenger Xl

        It is not about the U.S. being a protector of world peace or acting as the world police. It is a simple fact that without order you cannot provide the services needed to help people PERIOD. If the U.S. really wants to be apathetic they can just throw them some food and water without their government or structure intact and let human nature take its course. Or you can try to protect the fragile and helpless as you lend a hand attempting to rebuild. Which lets could help people get up with dignity. Americas military need to be doing more humanitarian efforts and less fighting unnecessary wars.

        Get your mind right

        • tensensi

          So, it’s your opinion that the U.S. should participate in nation building around the world? Or just Haiti because they got hit by an earthquake?

          How many doctors and/or personnel have been killed by these “gangs” running Haiti? Does it warrant 10,000 troops? Plus, that number doubles if you count all the Blackwater-types, since they are considered “civilians”. Same way the troop numbers in Iraq/Afghanistan more than double if you include them in the count.

          That sounds like occupation to me – these troops will be there a long time. If you think they are going to pass out food, and then just leave, you are fooling yourself with humanitarian gold.

          And thanks for the advice about my mind.

        • avenger xl

          1. Why would the u.s want to occupy the poorest nation in the western hemisphere.

          2. Don’t confuse illegal military actions like say Iraq. With Humanitarian effort.

          3. Humanitarian effort is good for brand America on the world stage. So it is a good leverage tool for future actions.

          4. Are you saying that their is no need to maintan order in a country that has been completely compromised. You cannot fathom the possiblity of any violence occuring against innocent civilians by their countrymen? When you can get murked on the wrong block in the states by someone who looks just like you for sneakers. Come on man

          Its Chess not Checkers

        • tensensi

          1. Oil. Just because Haiti is a poor country, don’t think they are not rich in natural resources. Also, strategic location. Like you said – it’s chess, not checkers.

          2. No idea what you are trying to say here.

          3. Agreed. However, I would say that’s exactly why it’s easier to occupy a country under the guise of humanitarian effort. Exactly why CNN bombards you 24/7 about how good the U.S. is for helping poor Haiti, complete with Brangelina endorsements.

          4. Absolutely. You need security forces in a situation like this. However, my original point, which you attacked, was that 40% of money the U.S. is using for Haiti goes to these security forces. The reason for the deployment of 10,000 troops is strictly for humanitarian reasons? They have also sent aircraft carriers/destroyers to control the ports, which the UN signed over to US control without any Haitian signatures. The US now controls Haiti’s airports, as well. You really should consult the google for what’s been deployed.

          There’s a great article you should look-up (I can’t post links on XXL?) – ask the google for “Cynthia McKinney is haiti now a us invasion”. Next step, read it.

          I think my mind is starting to get right. Since you like to close with hip-hop cliches, I have one for you:

          Don’t get it twisted.

        • Avenger XL

          I really don’t consult google for much more than recipes and to see what the internet fruit flys consider good music for the entertainment of it all. So you are saying the U.S. is taking over Haiti to drill for oil?

          I am going to change my stripes on your request an consult google on the McKinney opinion.

          Chess not Checkers is not a hip-hop cliche it comes from the movie training day. Though I am sure some rapper lifted the sample and I missed it. Now I will respectfully end our little back in forth by saying this was not an attack. It is opinion vs opinion either one of us can be right or wrong but there is no way to prove it until the pieces play out. So if the U.S. takes over Haiti with U.S. help to drill for oil you are correct. If they simply do their usual smile for the camera half ass humanitarian support to gain leverage on the world stage while Haiti is unable to properly rebuild due to neglect an corruption then I am correct. Either situation does not look good for the Haitians.

          P.S. Number two referred to Bush invading the soverign nation of Iraq on a whem. Without real evidence of WMDs. That is an illegal act if any body except the U.S. or Isreal had pulled that stunt. The western hemisphere would have sanctioned them.

        • Avenger XL

          I really need to start proof reading my posts. I have been really lazy on here but I guess if I am going to do more than diss lil wayne stans. I should at least proof my writings.

          I apologize to all I really don’t consult google for much more than recipes and to see what the internet fruit flys consider good music for the entertainment of it all. So you are saying the U.S. is taking over Haiti to drill for oil?

          I am going to change my stripes on your request and consult google on the McKinney opinion.

          Chess not Checkers is not a hip-hop cliche it comes from the movie training day. Though I am sure some rapper lifted the sample and I missed it. Now I will respectfully end our little back and forth by saying this was not an attack. It is opinion vs opinion either one of us can be right or wrong but there is no way to prove it until the pieces play out. So if the U.S. takes over Haiti with U.N. help to drill for oil you are correct. If they simply do their usual smile for the camera half ass humanitarian support to gain leverage on the world stage while Haiti is unable to properly rebuild due to neglect an corruption then I am correct. Either situation does not look good for the Haitians.

          P.S. Number two referred to Bush invading the soverign nation of Iraq on a whem. Without real evidence of WMDs. That is an illegal act if any body except the U.S. or Isreal had pulled that stunt. The western hemisphere would have sanctioned them.

  • Oneofthemyo’s

    U american niggas BE KILLING ME WHEN U TRY TO COMPARE anyghetto, america. To a third world country, and u wonder y people think yall the dumbest of the black race.

    1.hatians,mexicans,cubans n jamaicans come to american ghettos(tell me yall aint got none of those people in your hood) to get away from their country.

    2.Then yall use the excuse niggas die everywhere what about us…in haiti u cant drive 3 blocks and be out the hood in a white neighborhood, the whole country is fucked.

    take the worst hood in your city then imagine the entire usa is like that then maybe u’ll get an idea…only thing i agree with is fuck them charites!! people wanna help… fly your asses over there and do it yourselves do yall really think white people trying to help them hatians? only fucked up thing is yall so brainwashed yall starting to hate black people as much as white people do.

  • http://www.candidbackshots.com guttaman

    uuumm is every largely black country, area, neighborhood f*cked up??
    can somebody show me a place where this is not true?