In a jar

What’s the likelihood, really, that Amazon accidentally shipped 500 copies of Lil Wayne’s Rebirth, on CD, months before it was scheduled to be released?

Reasons I suspect the TIs may have put them up to this:

1) Amazon has been around for damn near as long as the Internets in general, and I’ve never heard of them accidentally releasing something months ahead of time, let alone one of the most highly anticipated albums evar. Rebirth is the sequel to Tha Carter III, which is not only one of the best-selling albums evar, but it somehow managed to achieve said status in an age when I’m not even sure where you’d buy a CD. The only reason I know Best Buy still sells them is because I heard Wale copping a plea about how they didn’t stock enough copies of Attention Deficit. Has it gone on to sell even as many copies as that Asher Roth album, or was that some ol’ bullshit? At any rate, Rebirth was probably set to be a big payday for both the TIs and Amazon. And I’ve worked in enough fast food places to know that, when a certain sandwich is being advertised on CD that, they’ll send a guy from corporate in to show you how to make. They don’t just take a risk.

2) 500 seems like such a nice, even number. I wonder how it compares to the number of copies of the most anticipated album of any given week it typically ships. Not to let the Internets in on more than they need to know about me, but I think the last CD I bought from Amazon was Vespertine by Bjork, and that may have been in part because of that uncut video she made that I saw before a showing of the Coen brothers’ The Man Who Wasn’t There. I didn’t even know nude Bjork would be included as part of the price of admission. Suffice it to say that was a better than average evening for a 20 year-old Bol. But you guys know I haven’t been part of the economic mainstream at any point in my adult life. It could be that Amazon sold way more than 500 copies of Rebirth, but they capped the leak at that amount, perhaps to make sure someone would rip it and upload it to the Internets. That way, the TIs could write it off as a loss for ’09, and they won’t have to pay as much tax on that Carter III money.

3) Lil Wayne isn’t in any condition to release an album right now. It’s one thing if you’re Gucci Mane, and despite all of the TIs’ efforts to force feed him to the populace, there’s a certain realization that he can only ever be so popular. As I may or may not have pointed out in a post last week, it was once thought that he might be the next Lil Wayne, or at least something approaching that, but he turned out to be less than a tenth of that. The real Lil Wayne, meanwhile, is much more of a known quantity. He’s the closest thing the TIs have to a sure thing at this point. Even if the next Lil Wayne album only sells half what Tha Carter III sold, that’s still more than pretty much anyone other than Susan Boyle. (I’m surprised the TIs haven’t tried to get them on a song together. You know they’ve thought of it.) But Lil Wayne is headed off to prison here in a lil bit. (See what I did there?) They might as well wait until he’s free to actually promote an album.

4) I heard Rebirth sucks balls. When you have the kind of success Lil Wayne had with Tha Carter III, the TIs pretty much give you free reign to do what you want. Otherwise, you might take your proverbial marbles and go home. That’s why they gave James Cameron $500 million to make Avatar, after Titanic became the highest-grossing film evar. They didn’t want to get on his bad side. He wasn’t kidding when he called himself the King of the World. The thing is, that might still turn out to be a good deal for the TIs. Even if Avatar failed here in the US, where people are a little more sophisticated, you know how people in foreign countries love movies with expensive special effects. That shit probably already recouped. On the other hand, the TIs may have tripped in letting Lil Wayne follow up Tha Carter III with a rock album. I’ve yet to hear it myself, but I read a 0-day review the other day from the kind of white guy who pretends to like Lil Wayne, and they were obviously struggling to say something positive about it.

Now that anyone’s who’s actually interested in hearing Lil Wayne impersonate Fred Durst can simply consult the Google, who wants to bet Rebirth is scrapped as the official followup to Tha Carter III? I know at one point they were talking about releasing it as a two disc set, along with an album by Young Money. Presumably, the idea was that the more traditional Young Money album would offset the (drug) experimentation of Rebirth, but the music on it must not have been strong enough. At this point, they might be best off waiting until Lil Wayne gets released from the joint suspiciously early, like T.I. just did and putting an album out then. Or maybe he’ll struggle with withdrawal in the joint and go all batshit, like Ol’ Dirty. Then if he dies, they can put out whatever, and it’ll probably sell like pancakes. You know how people love albums by dead rappers. As long as it doesn’t leak.

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  • General

    I agree that the supposed “mistake” by Amazon of shipping 500 copies early was a little more than suspicious…

    I think Universal wasn’t looking for a way out from having to put this out there, because they were obviously not very excited about this project from the start…

    • General

      Sorry meant to say that Universal “was” looking for a way out

  • Pierzy

    Co/Sign. Do the research, Amazon doesn’t fuck up like that…hence the reason they’ve been so successful for so long.

    • Tony Grands

      I think the album’s straight. Nothing noteworthy or exceptional, but it’s a little something to put on when one gets tired of the “Rah Rah Rah” that’s so prevalent nowadays.

      Oops, I’m not supposed to have it yet, huh?

      & I’d say that Wayne successfully out Durst’d Durst.

      • General

        Whats good Grand?

        I ain’t even checked that CD out yet. Is it worth coppin?

        • Tony Grands

          What’s popping, Gen?!

          Most people will look for a reason not to like it, or not see past it not being a “rap” album. But, I like it. I knew I’d like it when I heard a few leaks.

          If a dude can stomach Wayne rapping about how loose his bowels are, this shouldn’t be any different. Unless, of course, a nigga just generally dislikes anything that’s not rap. Which, it is still rap, but with a substantial twist of alternative rock.

          I give it a thumbs up. No homo? For what it’s worth, dude may have possibly expanded his career with this shit. Hip Hop fans are fickle, but other genres embrace the “outside the box” theory, feel me? Dusted White boys love it, lol.

        • MXL


          I thought “Rebirth” was a pretty good listen, “Ground Zero” in particular. Kinda refreshing to hear somethin other than how much of “the shit” he is.

          Plus, that whiny shriek of a voice he’s got works really well over those rock soundbeds, even when auto-tuned.

          I’m with Grands on this one — this album’ll probably be good for his career.

  • tommy gunz

    i got rebirth and burned 500 copies to a cd and sold them to 500 people on the condition that they in turn burn 500 copies and give them away free….

    fuck u universal

  • steven soderbergh

    hey tommy gunz..i did that too..*thumbs up…

  • remy

    Bol….I bet u sound like Woody Allen when u talk.

    • Woody Allen


  • geico lizard

    “Even if the next Lil Wayne album only sells half what Tha Carter III sold, that’s still more than pretty much anyone other than Susan Boyle. (I’m surprised the TIs haven’t tried to get them on a song together. You know they’ve thought of it.) But Lil Wayne is headed off to prison here in a lil bit. (See what I did there?)”

    I think you are saying that if you have sex with fat white women you end up in prison.

  • http://xxl All Dae

    tru tru to the whole post. Grand$ comment is correct. give a fast listen before u eject.

  • $ykotic/Don McCaine

    “As I may or may not have pointed out in a post last week”

    Translation: The post that was pulled last week…

    I’m telling y’all that was Baby & Slim with that 500 leak…look at the writing on the wall…the hottest artist around sitting on 3 mil sold, on a 60 mil + tour, worldwide, & can’t get a release date for a cross genre project…Baby said 3 albums in December, Universal let you drop 2…shelved the other one, the one people were interested in anyway, A WEEK BEFORE it’s release date…this is the time it’s already packaged and ready to be distributed…Universal knows this project is a loss, they don’t want to eat the sh*t sandwich(-$).

    And Amazon is on the tab now(e.g. litigation), which I agree, I AIN’T NEVER HEARD OF AMAZON LEAKING AN ALBUM. I bet the agreed “settlement” will almost cover the budget costs of “Rebirth”.

    AND smart labels OWN THEIR OWN BARCODES.

    “Think About It”-Eric B & Rakim

  • http://xxl All Dae

    its funny the TIs thought the publics stoopid and wouldn’t see through that lie.
    if 500 copies were accidentally shipped why was it reported to every newpaper? im sure those who got a copy didn’t call their local news.

  • Brooklyn

    that whole story is bull, they’re just looking for a reason to hype the album up. amazon ain’t leaking shit, in all the years that they’ve been around i’ve never heard any shit like that.

  • fastflipper

    for sure they was looking for a way to drop the ball for that b.s. album.

    now they gonna say ” too bad weezy” we dont putting out your lp

    and since they let him release a wack young money compil he gonna keep his mouth shut

  • sealsaa

    I called it. When Bol’s Gucci Mane post got deleted last week, I said it was probably because he was going to be on the cover of next month’s issue, and wouldn’t you know, he is! For shame XXL.

    • $ykotic/Don McCaine

      That’s your second one this year…

  • Ray Realtalk

    I bet Lil Wayne still sell over 1,000,000.
    And that’s realtalk at

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  • macdatruest

    In a way I think Wayne did everything he set out to do. Im still trippin because i remember Wayne wit the Hot Boys when he couldnt even curse, but next to Juvie, the nigga Lil Wayne was comin the hardest witout cursing wit a kid voice. But dude was hard always the most creative wit his flow and his stories-Real shit that shit bring back memories haha But just the fact that he where he is now, I feel like at the end of the day you gotta admit, the nigga is good

    Me personally, I think he did the shit the right way. No gimmicks, just spitting relentlessly. Niggas say they want the crown, but what they don’t realize-in actuality the crown is actually for lyrical supremacy. Niggas try to use Money,Gang Ties, Drug Tales to claim Rap Supremacy. But unless you consistently drop memorable rhymes plain and simple it DOESNT FUCKIN MATTER!!!

  • abdulnasir

    Speaking of avatar, i saw that motherfucker last night. Even though I haven’t seen Dances with Wolves, Avatar was more or less Dances with Wolves + Pochantas + 3D effects + James Cameron. That being said Avatar didn’t suck, except maybe my money!

  • Tha Real COREAGA

    I haven’t heard anything but that gawdawful “Prom Queen” but for some reason I’m kind of looking forward to something different from Weezy. May not be better but different none the less.