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Gollywogg BFF’s Oprah and Jay-Z < — Fuck Yo’ Meeting!

The other day DP’s TWitter feed looked a little something like this…

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And when the smoke had cleared…

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  • http://www.jamal7mile.blogspot.com Jamal7Mile

    Yo Dallas!

    That’s some good Twit right there! It really puts things into perspective. Jay-Z fans are NOT going to want to discuss those topics about their hero.

    I, for one, would like to know how someone who once lied to and robbed the hood can TRULY redeem himself. Jay’s not dead or in jail. And he certainly doesn’t appear to have been stripped of everything he values. So now what happens??

    Great drop, DP!

  • Sandro Pay (Get A Tan? IM ALREADY BLACK)

    What happens? Everything that fate had in its course. Why do people bother actin surprised everytime one of these rap niggaz lies. Thats what a rapper does, they tell A STORY(not THEIR STORY). If someone’s voice appeals to you so much that, not only do you start believing them, but begin defending them against us “in the know”, then i must say that i have greatly underestimated the ignorance of socie….. niggas. And someone had the nerve to tell me my president was black

  • General

    Whats good DP?

    I see you goin in on the G.O.A.T.??? Naw, good drop, who knew you could kill em with the tweets, lol…

    Wow, you gonna have some of these cats panties all twisted up today…

    Let me just get you ready
    1. You always hatin on Jay
    2. Jay got more money than you
    3. Jay’s a legend
    4. Repeat 1 through 3 endlessly and maybe through in a “your gay” for good measure

    Funny shit, but yet all real talk at the same time. Mission accomplished

  • http://Pierzy11@gmail.com Pierzy

    Behind every great fortune is a great crime.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Still some of the realest shit I’ve ever read.

  • http://www.justice.gov.za GO-Getta’

    Reminds of Big’s “10 crack commandments” LMAO

    I guese i have 2 ask 1 of my lady friends 4 a copy of O mag when it drops 2 find out if she asked dude AB&C….

  • vhingrhamesonyo’momma

    “Crack is a powerful drug”…truer words were never spoken.We all came up adorin the neighborhood dope boy or wieght man, the nigga seemed like a fly ass rebel hero to us; when we were young. As we get older we all start to realize the fresh ride and the floss is bieng bought off the despair of our fathers,mothers,aunts uncles and so on, and so on.Even still some choose to praise this mentality or behavior becuase it goes against the grain or let’s a black man make a buck that ain’t whitey’s or so they think.Others disapprove of this ethos for the betterment of the community and family. Either way were all lil’ guilty of spreading the crack epidemic in a way of sorts, how many of us bought a “The Reasonable doubt” album? How many of us love a good yeah from Jeezy? or the lyrical abilities of the Clipse? If this is the culture we praise and give kudos to for perpetuating such evils are we too not at fault? it don’t make right but it sure ain’t wrong either.

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      • $ykotic

        I see you! Like that “Rock” cut!

    • X

      Couldn’t agree with you more, vhing. Nice Twits Dallas.

  • 3rd Eye Clear

    It’s amazing that we sit and tear down those who have accomplished something. Jay Z is entertainment no less than the movie “Heat”. We dont argue that the movie totally glorified criminal bank robbers.
    P.S.
    The “three to five second rush” or the, “i’m up, they see me, i’m down” is a tried and true tactic. Not to mention the unbelivable accuracy of an H&K MP5 would lead anyone to believe that criminals are only criminal because they are bored geniuses!!

  • Detroit P

    *yawn* Dallas, you tryna win the “C.Delores Tucker of the Year” Award…In America when you get over on somebody for the sake of making money, it’s called capitalism…not that I champion capitilism, but that’s how it is…you get no points for chastising one successful black man for being part of that system just because you want to get on your soapbox and throw stones as if you’re a saint…that whole “lieing to the hood” rhetoric is weak, it’s deeper than rap..I feel where you comin from..but thats life..and the whole “hustler” word thing..who cares what hustler used to mean in the 60′s or whatever..it has a new meaning now, stop trying to turn that into some type of clever observation cus it’s not…I’m sure hustler had another meaning before that one…but other than that good post.

    • Detroit P

      also, a question…would you care as much if black people only sold their crack to white people and not to their own communities…I wouldn’t…if you’re black and you would, i guess you’re a better person than me…it’s a complicated thing to me tho

      • H Bonnie

        Complicated thing indeed. What about the poor disenfranchised whites (The ones who actually are crack addicts)? Racism is a tool of oppression. A tool which you have just wielded.

  • CROOKS

    i have no problem with anything that was posted but if u gonna judge jay by them standards than u gonna be disgruntled listening to 99% of rap music

  • Silly Willy

    The fact that Jigga put forward this hustler image, for me, is just a branding within the showbiz. See, for the mainstream, gangsta was taken, so was thugs and all that. I think he was around bad people at times, but never got too deep in the dope game, or else he won’t be where he is right now. And he tried different ways to be put on, but couldn’t get a deal. And since he knew something about the dope game (being a smart guy, at least business wise as we can see), hustler seemed the way to go. And it worked for him. Plus the guy has talent.

    A really skilled artist knows how to talk about something he never did, make it accessible for everyone and make you believe in it, since creating a fantasy, a world of aesthetic, and purely aesthetic ideal, is his first mission. Tarantino, Scorsese, shit even Michael Bay come to mind.

    You have the right not to like, but understand that they’re not role models, they’re merely painters. I’ve yet to walk in a museum, see people screaming and shouting because the ladies portrayed in all Gauguin’s paintings look like underage polynesian girls.

    You make real valid points, Dallas. But I don’t think there’s more to it than paintings.

    On that note:

    “They’re all actors
    Looking at themselves in the mirror backwards
    Can’t even face themselves, don’t fear no rappers
    They’re all weirdos, DeNiro’s in Practice
    So don’t believe everything your earlobe captures
    Its mostly backwards
    Unless it happens to be as accurate as me
    And everything said in song you happen to see
    Then actually, believe half of what you see
    None of what you hear even if its spat by me
    And with that said, I will kill niggas dead
    Cut niggas short, give you wheels for legs
    Im a K-I- double -L-E-R
    See ya’ll in hell …”

  • John Cauner

    Damn Dallas, I guess you did black out on this one. All good.

  • Silly Willy

    Oh….and about the no facial hair statement, did you ask Mike Tyson what he think of this ?

  • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grands

    Good, funny, thought-provoking shit dp.

    I’ve said it before & will continue to say it; never trust a black man without a moustache. I pencil one in on my son just so he doesn’t look like an evil munchkin.

    In general, I’m not a humanitarian & what Jay-Z sells/sold don’t make me rich. He did what he thought he had to do, which is more or less the American Way. Plus, being a “rapper” = I don’t believe you, you need more people.

    But I will say my ***** sold crack to his *******’s & ****** & that shit destroyed that branch of my family tree. & come to think of it, they should’ve known better, because he didn’t have a moustache back then.

  • Dallas Penn

    Detroit P,
    I am addressing you because you mentioned that capitalism is the system that we live under whether we like it or not.

    A Black artist has a responsibility, like it or not, to stop the procession of young Black males headed to prison. If America didn’t have the legacy of racism and supremacy towards Black people then maybe what Jay-Z says in rhyme form wouldn’t matter as much as it does.

    If you are willing to overlook someone’s moral and ethical responsibility towards my community that is your business and your mindset. My father didn’t raise me that way so I have to speak on this.

    It’s a true Black thing. You wouldn’t understand.

    • OG Matt Herbz

      Yeah, G, but word has it that Jay-Z (Shawn Carter) was never that heavy in the streets. He rapped about shit because most likely he was in the dope business (not game) to some extent, but he certainly wasn’t the worst of it. Now do you really think that Shawn’s lyrics put kids on to the way of the crack? Because for the most part Jay talked that talk about millions before rap, but the truth is, he didn’t even own that Lexus in his first video. We all know he’s a more prolific emcee than a pusher.

      Now, do you think that his recent attempts to appear like some sort of ambassador is an attempt to genuinely spread love in the Brooklyn Way or is it merely trying to whitewash the ills in his lyrics or less likely: his past?

      Anybody can answer this, hopefully we get some good discussion out of it. I might be special, but I could never visualize Shawn Carter as an actual drug dealer. His stories sounded authentic, but that’s probably more to his gift as a lyricist than him actually living what he rhymes about.

      –OG Matt Herbz–

  • OG Matt Herbz

    You spit game on the difference between a “hustler” and a “pusher” before, DP.

    But Jay-Z wasn’t a hustler, he was a saint:

    “Sold crack to those who couldn’t take the pain
    And had to numb it with base”

    See? He had good intentions… He was just trying to ease the hood’s pain. Get it to sleep so he could violate it.

    Memph Bleek, on the other hand, probably does like to powder old man nutz:

    “I got the Johnson & Johnson for the nonsense, who wants it?”

    In fact, Memph could be one hit away his entire life and he’ll still sit on a million…
    …for prepping Jay’s balls. Get off Jay’s nuts, Bleek.

    –OG Matt Herbz–

    • http://myspace.com/federalranga Federal Ranga

      “Bleek, could be a hit away his whole career/Long as I’m alive, he’s a millionaire”…

      Hey, to each his own… But we all know Jigga wasn’t on it like that… However…

      Jigga’s myths>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ross’s Truth

      Commission!!!

      Episode 5 up… youtube.com/federalranga
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  • 3rd eye clear

    DP,
    If Jay was still in the hood I could get with your feeling some sort of way about his moral and ethical responsibility or lack thereof to the community. He’s obviously taken what he did and turned this thing around. I would like to believe he’s even done so good!

    On the other hand I know for certain that there are atleast a hundred dudes on worldstar right now who are still in the hood who could use a good blogging about moral and ethical responsibility to the community.

    I just told a couple cats the other day, who wanted me to support the idea that it was ok to do what you have to do to get by. I reminded them of real men out in the world doing everything they wanted to do, not things they have to do. Told em’ i felt like they hated they peoples and community!

    I come out the corner stores minutes later and all my windows busted out! I’m driving the work all breezy now! Thats why i’m posting for the first time!

  • UNITURNZ

    D.P is a JAY-Z hater, but he looooovvees him some Raekwon! Go figure…

    • HNIC

      That is an excellent point. Why is that? Why express such disdain for Jay, who promoted the same lifestyle as Raekwon? Is it because Jay has become more of a success, monetarily & with more mainstream acclaim than Rae? Is it hypocrisy or indifference? Or do you have a personal vendetta against Jay? Did he use to sell drugs to your people? It seems to me that this is “Deeper than Rap” with you, D.P.? Please explain.

    • Polotron

      I don’t mean to speak for this man, but it would seem to figure that the one w/ the greater resources ($ and infuence) would inherit the greater responsibilty…

      Also, although he spoke to it, Rae didn’t glorify to the extent.

      • Silly Willy

        I ain’t tryna believe that, Polo.

        Ever listened to D’Evils? Regrets?

        Damn, on You Must Love Me, this guy actually said : “I hated me and everybody that created crack”….

        And our good friend the Chef will say:

        “Politickin, purse vickin, sick of these Dominicans
        Eatin good, had to shoot my way up out of Bennigans
        That’s life…”

        • Polotron

          Point (I guess).

          But I think you’d have to examnine 1. the bodies of work, 2. “this is what I did” vs. “this is what I did and I’m the shit because of”…as a style number.

          I guess I just see how a person can get here. Just a thought.

      • latino heat

        of course Raekwon didn’t glorify it to the extent of Jay-Z because he only had 3 albums. if his carer had been more successful and he had released more albums don’t you think he would have continued to promote the same lifestyle?

        • Polotron

          (and now they got me on some dev’s advocate ish on my lunchbreak)

          I’d like to hope not. But right there you make the argument against Jay: All those albums and you still talking about that? Let’s move on…

          I respect the catalog though. I’m just not buying it. And I’m not really “buyin’ it”. So at the end of the day, I guess he’s not talking to me anyway.

          I’ll add that his lyrics/embelishments don’t/never had the strength to give the youngins in my fam triple beam dreams. And that wasn’t his intent anyway. His fault that it happens to others? Arguable…

          ^
          2 cents

  • http://xxl All Dae

    This is a horrible drop. The bitch is talking some weak ass shit.

    Sure dumb ass in yr day they said pusher and a hustler was a fag. they also high fived and gave each other skin. Bad meant good and…we get it.

    Welcome to 2009 ten years deep in the “new” century where a hustla is slang for drug dealer, squares are called lames, giving skin is called dap and wha down is the greetin.

    in the words of the legend Jay-Z(who you envy deep down)
    “Swich up yr flow, shits garbage.
    What you tryin to kick…knowledge?”

  • Polotron

    Talking jiggerish:

    The question is whether the likkles should be taking their life lessons from a rapper in the first place. And whether the hoodies would aspire to him if he never made a record. (The assumption being that he’s not at they very least, stretching the “truth”).

    I agree that it is what it is (capitalism, the American way). In my mind, his only responsibilty is to build a school or something…find balance for all the negativity.

    But he’s no more on the hook than Goines or Charles Barkley.

    We as a community have to do better. There are probably better places to start than this man. Personally, I’d bring Oprah up on charges first. Homegirl, you’re not doing enough with all that paper.

  • http://www.incilin.blogspot.com Incilin

    Can’t front, you spit that real shit right there. But hey, I love the way Jay-Z sounds on the microphone.

  • SOMETHIN NEW

    Stop the hate.As long as the brother is getting money legally,I don’t see what the problem is.

    Everybody is exploiting some type of culture or issue for some paper right now,just look at the shit on B.E.T.

    Get your paper up and stop worrying about the next man.If you’re blogging for free and broke,then don’t look at somebody making power moves and hate.If somebody is paying me for the same tired hustlin raps,i’m all in.

  • $ykotic

    I thought a successful Black man was one who rose above the poverty and issues of the ghetto life and moved on to a better place for their family to embellish in for generations to come.

    So all the 9 to 5′ers out there, the kids who are the first in the fam to attend college & graduate, the community working cats that do steer the troubled away from certain mental or physical death, are not successful?

    Or is it people measure success through materialistic items? Or whatever the media determines to be successful?

    I was fortunate to have an OG school me when I was younger. Something generation now wants no part of. Showed me the ropes to not be a part of it, but to get AWAY FROM IT. It was his way of retribution. SAVE ANOTHER IF YOU CAN”T BE SAVED.

    And I ran in the streets hardbody. But still got my ass up everyday and went to work.

    I love the music because hell yeah, I can relate to a lot of it. Because I did a lot of it. But I still had a life, which was worth more than the streets and did something with myself. And still visit hospitals and chill with the kids, share meals and peel a little something for dudes who still are trying to figure it out.

    But I will be damned if someone is gonna tell me I’m not successful because my success doesn’t resemble a Jigga or some other n*gga.

    ANY MAN HOLDING IT DOWN LOOKING AT 40 FROM THE GHETTO AND IS STILL DOING IT IS SUCCESSFUL. DON’T THINK SO?

    CLOSE YOUR EYES AND NAME ALL THE BROTHERS YOU KNOW PERSONALLY WHO ARE DEAD OR IN JAIL NEVER COMING OUT AGAIN.

  • capcobra

    i don’t knock jay for his coke raps..i knock him for being a corny ass pops..what rich rapper don’t want his only son around?..even the brokest wackest mc’s acknowledge thier seeds but this dude be on some sucka shit…so if you gon knock him then knock him for some real shit..it’s too late to be at mad at jay for his hustler persona..especially when xxl and the rest of hip hop’s multimedia helped him get to this level of success.

  • 3rd eye clear

    If Jay had not done some things in the streets would it then be ok for him to rap about these things?
    I guess what I mean is that we don’t get all upset at the movie makers for the ultra violent and truly depicted tales they weave because we know they had no part of such life? Hmmmm!

  • BIGNAT

    dp you killed it homie

  • geico lizard

    So were those tweets from Peedi Crak or Nas? Everything said in those tweets was true.

  • http://www.myspace.com/sinistahmoneybagz Lord Sin 7-15-4

    Very Good Perspective!

    great differentiation of “Hustler” and “Pusher”

    and the babies are the greatest

    Peace!

  • render

    no dope boy ever forced a kid to smoke his shit. No corner boy ever had a sales pitch…don’t blame nobody for your addictions and demons but yourself

    on a knowledge tip…realize pharmacological determinism is a lie. Drug dealers aint poisoning communities…the communities were already sick

    drugs don’t exist in our hoods cause dealers push them or even cause the CIA invented crack or w/e you believe…they exist cause too many niggas are depressed, jobless and hopeless…drug abuse is just a symptom of a deeper illness

    Demand creates supply. If all the coke in america was gone tomorrow, all those fiends would still end up throwing their lives away on one destructive diversion or another

  • UNITURNZ2000

    WHAT CAME FIRST, THE DEALER OR THE ADDICT?

  • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grands

    Mushrooms & weed are natural, so probably the addict in those cases. Until some greedy, business-minded caveman came along & decided he could get way more sticks & rocks if he made moves.

  • Dallas Penn

    Here’s the truth… Jay-Z is the G.O.A.T. His catalog notwithstanding, there are so many joints he has penned for other rappers. You don’t even know the half.

    I’m harsh on Jay-Z because I know how great he could have been and what he was willing to forsake for fortune.

    No one will tell you that they went on the block to pitch because some rapper told them to, but you best believe that Jay-Z is the pusher’s dream soundtrack. All winning and no losing. All fantasy and no nightmares.

    Raekwon and the Wu were not representing the glory of the street life. They described the despair and how they were also part of that depression. The themes between the two(Jay/Rae) are posited differently.