Back 2 Da’ Future…

50 em

^ Shouts to Gooch for sending me an e-mail with a bunch of these pics.

I cringe when I see Eminem do this. He really doesn’t need to dress like some foolio wigger. It belittles the dudes actual talent for rapping and makes him look like a B-boy mockery. Someone e-mail Elliott Wilson and beg Eminem to NEVER dress like this again. Evar! And for that matter, don’t let Bruno teabag you either even if MTV execs tell you it will be funny. It really wasn’t.

I remember visiting Detroit in the summer of 2003 to attend the homecoming of the Anger Management tour. Obie Trice was on the rise through the Shady ranks, D-12 was solidly doing their thing as Eminem’s back up boy band and 50 Cent was the fucking monstar. The shows had Ford Field packed to the rafters and I would have to go back to my memories of the Fresh Fest at Madison Square Garden to get a vibe with similar energy.

The world belonged to Eminem and 50 Cent back then. They were the Boston Celtics with Bill Russell and Bob Cousy, The Pittsburgh Steelers with Bradshaw and Franco Harris, the Yankees With Derek Jeter and Bernie Williams, the Detroit Red Wings with whoever those white dudes wearing skates were. I’m talking an official dynasty. The entire rap universe was turning on the Shady model. In order to get in any record label meeting you were going to have to be either a ridiculously wordy white rapper or someone shot nine or more times.

Then there were the low points that 50 and Em had to go through like 50′s personal problems with his BM and Em’s loss of his best friend and actual weedcarrier Proof, but in 2009 they looked to return to prominence and capture their forgotten glory. 50 came close against Rick Ro$$, but was ultimately turned back as his album release stalled and the machine at Universal DefJam pushed Ro$$’ album forward. Eminem found a new high, or low, depending on who’s calling it for establishing his brand of sociopath rap.

Now in order for 50 Cent to successfully re-emerge he is going to have to add to the level of contempt and madness that he used to establish himself in the first place. Just like when he buried Ja Rule. It wasn’t all of his own doing but the fact that most of usa were tired of Ja’s syrupy sweet rap songs. The fans on a whole were tired of the Rick Ro$$ character too but somewhere in that equation 50 didn’t have the knock out punch. It was Ro$$ who was making all the hits.

How does a former rap juggernaut re-awaken? Or does 50 just let his rap career die on the vine? He has a shitload of other revenue streams to juggle. Is it even worth the effort to rap any longer?

  • $ykotic

    Pierzy!

    • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

      If 50 doesn’t make another album, & focuses on one of many other ventures/careers, @ the least, he’ll still be remembered as 50 Cent, arguably the most successful Gangsta Rapper ever. Arguably; it’s not cast in stone.

      If he does venture back out, & the album flops after the whole Ross debacle, it may be the worst case of self-etherization in the history of Hip Hop.

      May be time to stop going for the pawnshop tracks for the sake of saving $ & enlist some quality beatsmiths. May be time to look into this “ghostwriting” thing. May be time to take off them suits & ties & fancy man’s outfits [||], & take it back to Queens.

      He can do it, but it all depends on what he tring to do. Sell records or prove himself or get the hoes to dance. Even the most talented MC’s find that trifecta hard to obtain.

      I’m not a huge fan of his music, but I’d be lying if I say I weren’t interested in his “comeback”.

      • Pierzy

        Good afternoon gentlemen…

        I’m of the opinion that Em has made a full return because I’m still bumping “Relapse.”

        As far as 50, if you listen to “Get Rich or Die Tryin’,” you’ll notice two major factors: (a) beats and (b) hunger. Getting better beats isn’t tough [personally I loved the "Fully Loaded Clip" beat] but getting that hunger back is. He needs to do something to try to find that hunger…I just don’t know how.

        • http://www.myspace.com/emcdlthemusicprofile EmCDL

          I don’t know I really didn’t care for some of those beats on that album…alot of folks like that album but I just didn’t really care for it that much. I honestly like “The Massacre” better than GRODT (yes I know ya’ll gonna shun me for it but its the truth LOL). Ski Mask Way and that Hate It Or Love It G-Unit Remix was my ish!

          As far as him coming back though, I could care less. And I don’t think that he even wants to come back; He’s gonna fulfill his last record with the label, and he’s gonna go on to do bigger and better things. He’s already gotten a taste of the movie money…why would he come back?

        • DetroitDraper

          I co-sign that E the Massacre was a better album…it got hella play by me but the GRODT movie soundtrack was a great disk. You can put that on and listen to 1-5 over and over.

      • DetroitDraper

        Before anyone can make a negative comment about 50 Yayo or the Unit I think you need to listen to the return of the body snatchers mixtape. It was a classic from beginning to end. And surprisingly Yayo stole the show on that mixtape.

        • BIGNAT

          i still be playing that joint i was mad at how bad the offical 2nd g-unit cd was. they should have pushed rider part 2 for the single instead of that crappy i like the way you do it. also you are right yayo went in on that joint MARVINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

          @EmCDL imagine how much better massacre would have been if he had those songs he gave to game on that joint. it would have knocked out some of those filler songs maybe candy shop might have not h=made the cut. could have saved that joint for the grodt sound track. the massace would have been better than grodt but thats not the issue. i wish i could hear the original massacre

  • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

    Pierzy

  • CRAP

    50 Cent carrier is as a rapper is dead. Hip hop needs some new rappers everybody is pretty much played out now.

  • Worley

    50 should just satisfy the last album commitment to Interscope and keep it moving. His best move afterward would be focusing on his other business interests and use rap stricly as advertisement. Why? Rap is kind of like boxing. You have to be hungry to do it right. Mike lost it after he got rich and so did 50. It’s time to move on.

  • $ykotic

    What it do DP?! Like the black cop drop on your site.

    These 2 dudes are pretty much tired and done with the “rap scene”. Even their 3rd amigo.

    Money changes people. Especially millions.

    Although the teabag may give Em some fire to spew…

    • JCITYHUSTLA617

      Although the teabag may give Em some fire to spew…

      ^^PAUSE^^

      LMAO

  • Epinz

    Co-sign worley on that. I thnk 50 did the damn thng on ross. Ross won’t go gold and as great as his cd was, 50 accomplished what he set out to do cuz I aint never heard a cd so good that I couldn’t listen to cuz that artists credibility was shot! I’m not to fond of his music anymore, but can’t nobody ever knock his hustle. In 02 damn near all of us were in a better position than him, and in 4 years this nigga is mentioned with jay and diddy. He was the second highest payed black entertainer last year. I dnt thnk he’ll ever make great music again, but ill always b a fan of 50 cent period, not just the rapper.

    • $ykotic

      Grand$! Epinz! What up peoples?

      I think the 3 headed monster knows that this is the last hurrah together.

      I always say “Burn Me” by 50 is fire. That song stays stuck in my head.

      2k9 looks like they are going to go out the music business with a bang. 50 has more movie roles. Dre can always drop a beat. As a human I am more worried about Em.

      • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

        What it do, errbody!?

        For clarity’s sake, Dre is the “supposed” third head, right?

        Man, I take nothing away from him as a producer/businessman/artist, but I don’t get why because we talk Em/50 that he’s just automatically included. Its like talking about how good Burger King food is [||], then giving the actual Burger King guy a shout out.

        As for Em, I don’t see him “retiring” anytime soon. Not just yet. That dude still has legs on him. If he drops out of the rap race, it’ll be because of a nervous breakdown or a stroke. I could see him pulling a Lauryn Hill.

        Already stated my point on 50. & I don’t see him regressing just to gain “new” ground. Wouldn’t make sense based on his track record of movement. Poor Lloyd Banks.

        • JCITYHUSTLA617

          I SEE EMINEM PULLIN A KURT KOBAIN IF ANYTHING

        • $ykotic

          JC you’re ill brah!

          Grand$ actually 50 cut the puppet strings loose on Banks and Yayo.

          It’s just like any pro player, they’re looking for 1 more contract…

          Em/50 duet album rumors buzzing like crazy.

          That “You Know” cut was kinda hot.

        • DETROIT

          @ my nigga tony grand$:

          you touched on the problem with em and 50, i just don’t think that you reallized it. now, let me start by saying that i am 31 years old, so i grew up to dr dre shit…from “before you turn out the lights”,to nwa, to snoop, to em, etc. throughout his reign as top producer, there was always 1 thing that separated him from all the other top level producers in the game….his ability to recreate himself!
          NWA shit don’t sound like snoop shit, snoop shit don’t sound like em shit, etc. every since chronic 2001, that hasn’t been the case. nowadays dre is starting to get like preemo, makin the same type of shit over and over again. and when he tries to deviate, it ends up sounding like jay-z’s “30s the new 20″ or “lost ones” (which sound good to me, but are a lil to musical for most rap fans).

          MY POINT IS: DRE IS THE REASON THESE CATS WERE HOT, AND NOW HE ISN’T HOT ANYMORE! that’s why shady aftermath isn’t the same anymore. i’m sure younger cats will disagree, but you have to understand, dre was the music behind nwa, death row, eminem, etc. HE’S THE CASH COW, NOT THEM! IT’S BEEN PROVEN (see snoop on no limit). i think that maybe dre has outgrown rap musically, due to the fact that rap is pretty basic. maybe it’s time for him to delve into other genres that let him use more of his musicianship. either way….as long as dre is average…shady/aftermath will be average!

        • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

          @ DETRIOT

          Word. Good shit. Don’t think I ever thought about it like that, or if I did, my thoughts got so lost in the shuffle that I started focusing elsewhere. Yeah, that sounds about right.

          I’ve gotten so used to it being about Em/Dre I guess it stopped crossing my mind that Dre’s the reason for both of the monumental successes.

          Shit, no wonder Detox is taking so long. What’s the hurry? Most rap cats are working to eat, wishing they were in Dre’s position. Dre’s got food to last a couple of lifetimes.

        • ?

          @ J
          Thats not even funny.
          :[

        • General

          @ Tony and Detroit

          Dre is the reason for Em’s success???
          I have to say you have it partially wrong here…
          Dre’s co-sign of Eminem got him in the door, but lets be honest, on Em’s previous CD’s Dre didn’t do a whole lot and the few tracks that he did do were usually not standout tracks and let’s be honest that Dre’s 2001 didn’t take off until he put out the single “Forgot About Dre” which featured Eminem. Dre needed Em to bring in the new generation of fans to him…
          Don’t get me wrong, I think Dre is a legend and I think he gets short changed as a producer, because unlike many of these guys that claim to be producers, Dre is an actual producer…
          And to say that everything Dre is doing is stuck in the 2001 sound is way off base. He has stepped his game up immensely since then, but unfortunately I think the casual fan that can’t appreciate or understand the nuts and bolts of true production are ignorant to it…
          I find it quite interesting that people are claimin Dre ain’t hot anymore and to them I would say, you must be fuckin deaf…Example 50′s new single, Dre hit that track out the park, but the problem is 50 swung and missed with what he did with that beat…That could have been a monster single…

        • DETROIT

          “Example 50’s new single, Dre hit that track out the park, but the problem is 50 swung and missed ”

          that’s a perfect example actually! when you listened to that song for the 1st time, everyone knew it was a dre beat. there was a time when you couldn’t tell a dre beat just by hearing it. that new 50 shit is hot, but it has that dre signiture sound! dre didn’t used to have a signiture sound. nwa was kinda bomb squadish, the chronic was p funk, etc. now ALL HIS SHIT SOUNDS SIMILAR! WHY DO YOU THINK IT’S TAKING SO LONG FOR HIM TO MAKE HIS NEW SHIT? HE’S STILL LOOKING FOR A NEW SOUND! i bet that new 50 shit isn’t even gon make the album!

          as far as 2001, the biggest songs off of that album to date are “the next episode” and “explosive”! not “forgot about dre”! i still hear the 2 songs that i mentioned, no one plays “forgot about dre” anymore!

          also, dre didn’t produce alot of em’s songs, but he EXECUTIVE PRODUCED all of em’s shit. i’m sure and expert like you know what that means, you musta just forgot.

        • DETROIT

          “Dre hit that track out the park,”

          bro, there are at least 100 dre beats better than that new 50! the fact that a song like that is now considered “hitting a track out the park”, further proves my point!

          remember “ain’t no fun”, “appetite for destruction”, “california love”, etc…

        • General

          Actually the fact that he executive produced that shit for Em makin that shit hot, is like sayin the only reason the Death Row shit was hot was because Suge Knight executive produced that shit…WTF??? Everyone knows that the executive producer oversee’s shit from a 10000 foot level, not actually the music itself. Hell, Eazy E has all kinds of Executive Producer credits and he didn’t write his own raps…so that argument is just plain ignorant

          And your right that no one plays Forgot About Dre anymore, but again actually read the argument before responding…I didn’t say Forgot About Dre was the hottest or is the hottest track, but it was that single and video that introduced Dre’s 2001 to a whole new generation that wouldn’t have listened to his Cd or bought it if they didn’t hear that track first…

          As far as 100 Dre tracks better than that one, I would agree, but this isn’t a just a Dre track, this is a track that he is going for Club and radio appeal, and he delivered one that is perfect for that, so in that sense he did hit it out of the park…50 couldn’t have asked for anything better…And as far as Dre having a signature sound…Yes his sound has changed a lot since the early days, because he has worked with different musicians over that time…As a matter fact you can trace the sound to whatever musicians he is using in his production from back in the NWA days with Stan and Yella and Hutch, to Death Row where he had Colin Wolfe, Warren G and Daz, to his first Aftermath shit where he had Budda, to later when he had Scott Storch and Mel-Man, to now when he has Dawauan Parker, Mark Batson, and Mike Elinzondo. The same goes for any producer that you listen to.

        • DETROIT

          “Everyone knows that the executive producer oversee’s shit from a 10000 foot level, not actually the music itself.”

          the levels to which an executive producer is hands on varys depending on who the executive producer is. why do you think raekwon was gonna let busta executive produce his shit? busta doesn’t make beats, but he knows what a rae cd is supposed to sound like.

          “Hell, Eazy E has all kinds of Executive Producer credits and he didn’t write his own raps…so that argument is just plain ignorant”

          -eazy e executive produced bone when they were hot, when he died, bone went to shit! he was also the brains behind the whole image of nwa. he was the street nigga, and he was the one that knew what the streets wanted to hear.

          “I didn’t say Forgot About Dre was the hottest or is the hottest track, but it was that single and video that introduced Dre’s 2001 to a whole new generation that wouldn’t have listened to his Cd or bought it if they didn’t hear that track first…”

          what generation is this? these people never heard of snoop dogg? tupac? deathrow???? the chronic 2001 was so highly anticipated due to the fact that the original chronic (which didn’t have em on it) was so cold. i was 23 in 2001, so who did em introduce dre to….8 year olds? were they buying the chronic?

          “Yes his sound has changed a lot since the early days, because he has worked with different musicians over that time…As a matter fact you can trace the sound to whatever musicians he is using in his production”

          TRUE. you ever thought that maybe he’s having a very hard time assembling a winning team this time around?

          “this is a track that he is going for Club and radio appeal, and he delivered one that is perfect for that, so in that sense he did hit it out of the park”

          WHAT CLUBS DO YOU GO TO? that shit won’t play in any club…”i get it in” is more of a club beat than that new one. if you wanna know what people play in clubs, listen to zeytoven, or polo tha don, etc.

          obviously you have very lil knowlege of the era in question, i’d guess that you’re in your early 20s. your opinion reads like someone who read about the era rather than lived it. and it’s very obvious that you never go to clubs, lol!

        • General

          “what generation is this? these people never heard of snoop dogg? tupac? deathrow???? the chronic 2001 was so highly anticipated due to the fact that the original chronic (which didn’t have em on it) was so cold. i was 23 in 2001, so who did em introduce dre to….8 year olds? were they buying the chronic?”

          Again a testament to your ignorance on this subject, because it had been 7 years since Dre dropped the Chronic and his last 2 big projects besides Em were The Firm, which was a major flop and with the exception of Phone Tap, the CD was also a huge disappointment. The other project was Dr Dre Presents The Aftermath which was received as a lukewarm project at best…

          Your right that a lot of people like myself were dyin to hear 2001, but not as many as would be buying it after “Forgot About Dre”. And as far as had people heard of these other artists? Lets see, it had been 5 years since Snoop dropped Doggystyle which was his one and only classic, followed by a lot of mediocore CD’s which received less and less sales, Tupac had been dead for 3 years not to mention he only ever did 2 tracks with Dre anyway and had since dissed him, and Deathrow had nobody left on it worth noting…In case you haven’t noticed fans are very fickle such is evident in your above comments regarding Dre’s beats now.

          “eazy e executive produced bone when they were hot, when he died, bone went to shit! he was also the brains behind the whole image of nwa. he was the street nigga, and he was the one that knew what the streets wanted to hear.”

          …Eazy is a legend, but it had nothing to do with his skills musically or his skills to put hot music together, see HWA, Steffon, Pistol, Blood of Abraham, etc…which were all Executive Produced by E and were all hot garbage. Yeah, he did find Bone, but don’t for a second think that he had anything musically do with the direction Bone went…actually Bone’s music went downhill when they quite working with DJ Uneek as their producer….

          “WHAT CLUBS DO YOU GO TO? that shit won’t play in any club”

          Clubs that have lots of hot bitches and your right with what 50 did to that track, it will not get any play in the club, but it would have had him delivered….

          “obviously you have very lil knowlege of the era in question, i’d guess that you’re in your early 20s. your opinion reads like someone who read about the era rather than lived it.”

          -Funny because I would say the same thing about you since you seem to have very little frame of reference as to what was really going on during this time period with regards to Dre or little knowledge as to the West Coast at its prime period other than what is probably quoted in the fluff pieces they do in magazines when they look back on that era…

          “i was 23 in 2001,”

          -Another point made for me…2001 was released in 1999, not 2001. So apparently you were 2 years late on that bus too and as to who Em introduced to Dre??? That is pretty obvious, Em had a huge pop crossover appeal at the time, which Dre did not share with the pop generation 7 years later

        • DETROIT

          “Lets see, it had been 5 years since Snoop dropped Doggystyle which was his one and only classic, followed by a lot of mediocore CD’s which received less and less sales, Tupac had been dead for 3 years”

          so how old are you? because what you’re doing is constructing an argument about the late 90s based on the norms in 2009.

          there were 4 years between str8 outta compton and niggas4life, and nwa remained quite relevant. prior to the internet age, it was quite normal for rappers to take 3 or more years to craft their next album. this idea that a rapper has to make 3 mixtapes and 1 album per year to remain relevant is not how it was in the 90s.

          “2001 was released in 1999, not 2001.”

          OK, SO I WAS 19 WHEN IT CAME OUT! so again, who did em introduce dre too? if i was 19, then I WAS THE NEXT GENERATION! AND WE KNEW ABOUT DRE, HE WAS A LEGEND! growing up, there weren’t 1000 rappers like it is now. dre had been a fixture in our lives since like ’88, that had nothing to do with em.

          and as far as snoop having only 1 good album….OK, SO HE STAYED IN THE GAME 15+ YEARS BASED ON THE SUCCESS OF 1 ALBUM…LOL! IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, I HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU! and dre has continously worked with snoop throught his career.

        • General

          “there were 4 years between str8 outta compton and niggas4life, and nwa remained quite relevant. prior to the internet age, it was quite normal for rappers to take 3 or more years to craft their next album. this idea that a rapper has to make 3 mixtapes and 1 album per year to remain relevant is not how it was in the 90s.”

          -Actually there was only 3 years in between the Cd’s, not to mention the fact that they dropped an Eazy E solo album, 100 Miles and Runnin the EP, as well as were featured on Above The Law and D.O.C. albums so it was not like they weren’t releasing material during that time…I know you will say that Dre was releasing material during the time between the Chronic and 2001, but not solo material or even anything other than what I already mentioned before where he was even prominently featured. And the fact is that between 1992 and 1999 the rap game had changed dramatically…

          I’m not making the argument I’m making based on today ie 2009, but I lived through this time…Hell I’m older than you are and have been into hip-hop way before Dre and NWA…and have had this similar discussion millions of times with people about Dre’s legacy

          Your right that rappers used to take a lot longer to craft their CD’s and in fact I wish that they still did that so we would see a little more quality rather than quantity…

          “WE KNEW ABOUT DRE, HE WAS A LEGEND!”

          Yes people knew about him, but that didn’t help Rakim (also LL) sell when he made a comeback in the mid to late 90′s and there is no arguing that he is a legend…but he didn’t have the gap to the next/current generation of mass consumers who whether we like it or not are the pop consumers…Yes true hip hop heads will still go out and support great music, but just look at Red and Meth, there is no arguing there place in hip hop, but they can’t manage to get that sales push in the new generation…hell Rick Ross whose CD is good, but not nearly as talented gets more sales, same as Plies

          I feel you that Em is not the only reason that Dre sold, but he is the reason that he did the numbers that he did…Believe me, I think Dre’s best tracks on there were not any that had Em on them, but it helped to get his music out to a wider audience than he would have…

          As far as Snoop…I’m sorry, but I do think that Doggystyle is the only “classic” Cd that Snoop has…He has some good CD’s, but he has been far too inconsistent as a rapper…he hasn’t had a CD that I could listen to from start to finish since then without skipping over half the tracks

        • DETROIT

          “As far as Snoop…I’m sorry, but I do think that Doggystyle is the only “classic” Cd that Snoop has…He has some good CD’s, but he has been far too inconsistent as a rapper…he hasn’t had a CD that I could listen to from start to finish since then without skipping over half the tracks”

          AGREED. but only having one classic album doesn’t mean that the rest of his albums are wack. hell, “the last meal” was cold as shit! in my opinion snoop is one of the most consistant rappers ever (even though i don’t own any snoop cds). he doesn’t make very cohesive cds, but he’s got bangers 4 days! there aren’t 5 rappers, dead or alive, that can go classic song for classic song with snoop!

          “Yes people knew about him, but that didn’t help Rakim (also LL) sell when he made a comeback in the mid to late 90’s”

          comparing producers to rappers is like comparing apples to oranges!

          i feel you tho, to me this is like the shaq/kobe lakers argument. kobe was flashy and young, so people mistakenly thought that he was the reason for the lakers success, when it was really old trusty shaq the whole time…lol.

          1 my nig

        • DETROIT

          also, to me, dre made em popular in the 1st place…THAT WAS A POWERFUL COSIGN, especially for a white boy.

          em made 50, in my opinion.

        • General

          You are absolutely right about Snoop’s songs, he does have an impressive catalogue when it comes to individual tracks and that is why I keep buyin his damn CD’s, because I keep hoping that eventually he will put it all together, but we will see

          And we agree that Dre’s co-sign is what made Em, because without that he would have never got the doors opened like he did, which I is the same for 50…I think 50 had a lot of momentum from the mixtape game, but without Em and Dre to a lesser extent, he wouldn’t have reached the level that he did…

          Good discussion

  • SJB

    In my humble opinion, 50 could quite possibly have been a great and legendary artist. But dude took this get the money route that while it may have benefitted him a ton financially, he never grew as an artist and with all his phony beefing became almost like a caricature on some levels. And since beef is what he was known for, let’s be real – Jada won their battle and Game single-handedly killed the whole G-Unit buzz with the 300 Bars joint. 50 started to fall out of favor right when The Massacre hit, his ego just became ridiculous. He talked all this shit about writing songs for Game, true or not, Game has still been dropping dope albums, 50 not so much. I think dude gave himself way too much credit for knocking Ja out of his spot – Lil’ Mo could’ve done that! As a battle rapper, he’s average, and extremely predictable. And make no mistake, when he first hit the scene I was a huge fan, but when he started beefing with people who are clearly better artists (Nas, Jada, hell Game and Cam too) it made me be like, yo this dude is a joke. Kanye sonned him in the Soundscan battle, he said “Oh Cam hasn’t made anything hot in a while..” and now none of his singles are on the charts. Dude became so obsessed with numbers, he completely forgot the laws of physics…

  • El Tico Loco

    Yo that era was like the beginning of the end, the GUnit, Shady, Aftermath and Crunk all with major buzz and hardcore fans and then they went MIA or soft.

  • Epinz

    @syk
    What it is homie?
    I feel u on that, and they know it. The mainstream game is for the young, and they’re buzz(not prime) is behind them. Shit, I’m in the south and these lil nggz dnt even like outkast! That shits crazy to me! As far as em, I understand why he got hooked, that’s a lot of shit to deal with, but if he “relapses” cuz of that….he’s a BITCH!!!

    • $ykotic

      E you know the world ain’t feeling that! OUTKAST ARE GOATS!

      I’m smelling a LIVE NATION 50/EM deal…

  • Enlightened

    Why the fuck would anybody actually type the words “weed carrier” at this point in time? Please be more original. That shit is stupid.

    • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

      You just typed it also.

      • JCITYHUSTLA617

        LOL

  • ATLien

    I think he can do it, if you listen to his mixtape work over the past year you’d be like “well 50 hasn’t really lost anything” and then you’d listen to those singles he put out and be like “wtf is this crap”.

    The thing is, he’s trying to create another “In Da Club” which is just not going to happen. But the thing is, it doesn’t NEED to. He’s at the point now where if he can just be 50 Cent and still go platinum.

    It’s all a question of how much longer do he have to be THAT DUDE in the rap game. If he keeps trying to do that then he won’t make it. But if he just accepts that his place as one of those guys as opposed to THAT GUY then he’ll be fine. Just make good music, cement your legacy, make money and keep it moving.

  • Master Cheef

    good to see that em quit dressing like a wigga. that shit always annoyed me, too.
    When he came out with this album and was wearing jeans and a normal shirt, I was like, “cool.”

    I would have liked to hear more nigga shit on the album, though. More 40 cal talk, more blunt paraphernalia, and, hell, maybe even some making it rain references.

  • OG Matt Herbz

    “Fuck anger management. I need someone to manage my anger…”

    Oh, shit, what did I just do?!

    This goes back to the argument about how one can stay on top in Hip Hop. I appreciate Notorious B.I.G.’s shit that much more when I realize that if he made any more albums, they would have inevitable diluted the brand. Em should have stopped about 5 tracks into Encore then hung up the mic. Y’all can say his new album is hype, but I’m not ready to hear it just yet. I got to let it get a little old so that I can better appreciate his choice of lyrics and how they relate to this age that we’re in. Like some Ghost Dog shit.

    –OG Matt Herbz–

    • $ykotic

      “Ghost Dog”? LOL

      • OG Matt Herbz

        Yes.

        In reference to the little “end of an age” monologue he makes right before the epic “passing-by” scene with the RZA. I must have rewound that shit a million times just to fuck with that RZA beat. No surprise that the most dope beat on the whole fucking (Import) Ghost Dog Soundtrack is the beat RZA used for his only scene in the movie…

        I like that, though.

        I would have done the same thing. I like to walk with a instrumental banging in my head. It helps me keep the bop on tempo. Not too fast like an Asian Nigga, and not to slow as to make ‘em think I got a gimp leg or some shit.

        Anyway, times is a little crazy right now. Maybe niggaz can’t stomach some Em shit right now–that’s why I’m a post up right here and wait for this little storm to pass, then I’ll fuck with Relapse when I can dedicate my mind power to dissecting it. Yes. “Deep like the mind of Farrakhan. A muthafucking White Phenomenon.”

        –OG Matt Herbz–

  • DazzOne

    Em will always have a place in hip-hop as far as the fans expecting an album are concerned. Em is one of those artist known for constantly dropping great albums. Out of six studio albums (counting ‘Infinite’), 1 is mos def a classic, 3 were great, and two were..meehhhh…(of course some tend to agree or disagree to which albums and how many were ‘great’, ‘classic’ or if any were ‘meehhhh’)

    Now that’s a 4 hot album every 10 year average!

    50 is 3 albums in and fell off on the SECOND album. There is no big want for 50 to drop a new album. We all know he is going to rap about the same stuff with the same flow, and he has no great wordplay to speak of. All he ever had was his hunger. And that’s gone.
    Did you see that video for “Get Up”? Did it set the world on fire for “Before I Self Destruct” to drop? And it took like 5 first singles untill they (Interscope) felt comfortable enough to drop ‘Curtis’. He is the ‘MC Hammer’ of gangster rap. The next album to flop will let every one know of this.

  • DazzOne

    Em will always have a place in hip-hop as far as the fans expecting an album are concerned. Em is one of those artist known for constantly dropping great albums. Out of six studio albums (counting ‘Infinite’), 1 is mos def a classic, 3 were great, and two were..meehhhh…!(of course some tend to agree or disagree to which albums and how many were ‘great’, ‘classic’ or if any were ‘meehhhh’)

    Now that’s a 4 hot album every 10 year average!

    50 is 3 albums in and fell off on the SECOND album. There is no big want for 50 to drop a new album. We all know he is going to rap about the same stuff with the same flow, and he has no great wordplay to speak of. All he ever had was his hunger. And that’s gone.
    Did you see that video for “Get Up”? Did it set the world on fire for “Before I Self Destruct” to drop? And it took like 5 first singles untill they (Interscope) felt comfortable enough to drop ‘Curtis’. He is the ‘MC Hammer’ of gangster rap. The next album to flop will let every one know of this.

  • DazzOne

    Em will always have a place in hip-hop as far as the fans expecting an album are concerned. Em is one of those artist known for constantly dropping great albums. Out of six studio albums (counting ‘Infinite’), 1 is mos def a classic, 3 were great, and two were..meehhhh…(of course some tend to agree or disagree to which albums and how many were ‘great’, ‘classic’ or if any were ‘meehhhh’)

    Now that’s a 4 hot album every 10 year average!

    50 is 3 albums in and fell off on the SECOND album. There is no big want for 50 to drop a new album. We all know he is going to rap about the same stuff with the same flow, and he has no great wordplay to speak of. All he ever had was his hunger. And that’s gone.
    Did you see that video for “Get Up”? Did it set the world on fire for “Before I Self Destruct” to drop? And it took like 5 first singles untill they (Interscope) felt comfortable enough to drop ‘Curtis’. He is the ‘MC Hammer’ of gangster rap. The next album to flop will let every one know of this.
    Peace!

  • Capt. Obvious

    This is what happens when you don’t re-invent yourself…you become old news…new niggas take your spot and time becomes your enemy. He had a good run now let it GO! pursue OTHER endeavors.

  • Azhar

    With the whole Ross n 50 thing…. Ross beat him at what was important and that’s good music, fcuk whether he was a C.O. or not 50 should’ve been focusing on getting some hot tracks and goin in on Ross not taking dis dudes baby mama shopping n thinking that was a dis… Em straight as long as he’s motivated plus Em can spit and he white…he the Larry Bird of this rap shit… Larry earned the respect of other plyers cuz he could flat out play….after a awhile they didn’t c color when he played they just saw a helluva player…. EM can spit & produce so he good…50 is the one that got some catching up to do bcuz he don’t do spit like that and he don’t do features no more…he not relevant right now he do movies but is he motivated by rap any more don’t think so!

  • DETROIT

    QUOTE OF THE DAY:

    “the game is life, and i play the game, so you never talk down on a player’s name” – too short

  • Epinz

    @azhar
    I agree with u that ricky has better music, shit, at this point he’s a better rapper. That be’in said, 50 got at him on a personal level. He disrespected ross as a man. This “gangsta” rap shit is about credibility! If there was a tight ass rapper that was racist or gay, would u still listen to em? If no, than it can’t just b about the music. If yes, than ur argument stands and u do just listen to music cuz it sounds good and dnt care bout nuthin else. Ross lost cuz his credibility is shot. He didn’t make dtr that good cuz of his beef with 50, that shit woulda been the same regardless of the fact. In the actual battle between the two, 50 beat him in every area of it. Cuz rosses diss records towards 50 weren’t any better than what 50 put out music wise. At the end of the day, when we look back at this “beef” ross took that L. And I dnt care that he was a c.o, its that he lied about it. He’s lied about everythng. All the rappers I listen to (nas,little brother,clipse…ect) talk about keepin it real and speakin from the heart. Not makin shit up and passin it off as truth, but lettin me know how they live and what they’re opinions r on shit. Its a damn shame that artist(sorry,rappers) get any type of shine with the bullshit they feed us as “that real shit” what happend to
    real mcs?…50 did what we always wanted to happen…expose one of these many fake artist. Even if he’s possibly one himself!?!?!

    • $ykotic

      Fif should have did a “Tia Told Me” video with him and her doing the Ciara thing. That would have had Ross extra salty.

    • zulu1925

      @ Epinz

      Do you not realize that music is entertainment? The MCs are projecting a doctored persona for public consumption. Were this not the case, rappers would use their government names. And, don’t give me the nickname argument – that the MCs rap names are a truer representation of their actual selves than their real names. The nicknames allow the MCs to HIDE their true selves from the public. With that said, the best music is that which reveals honest feelings, either personally experienced or by serving as a conduit, but please don’t mistake these small glimpses for total revelations of the lives and personalities of the artists – because they are ARTISTS.

  • ThingAlec

    I just hope BISD gets a (legit) release date soon.

  • Rex Banner

    Why does it matter how eminem dresses? If he wants to dress like that then so be it. Just talk about the music.

  • General

    I think 50 should just let his career die away. I don’t believe that he is capable of putting together a CD that is going to help save his legacy…
    I know all the 50 stans will point to all the records that he has sold and money he has made as proof that his legacy is intact, but don’t be so sure…

    MC Hammer sold a shit load of records and made a shit load of money, but I don’t think that anyone would argue that his legacy is great. Lets face it, 50 has become the MC Hammer of Gangsta Rap music…I just don’t believe him anymore. I think a better comparision would be to Mike Tyson though, whose house 50 ironically lives in…When Tyson was hungry there was no stopping him and he smashed opponents with ease, but once the fame and fortune came the hunger went away and he became less than average in the ring…

    That is what 50 is right now…He is less than average…Funny for a guy who “supposedly” wrote Game’s CD(Yes I know Curtis appeared on 3 tracks) or gave him half of his CD for Game to put out, that it is Game who is still puttin out quality shit while 50 couldn’t find quality music if it hit in the face…
    50′s days are done, and I think the Ross beef helped underscore that…Musically he couldn’t come close to a knockout blow and all the extra shit that he was doing on the net….well that shows you how desperate and far he has fallen, because he knows musically he can’t even step on Ross’s level anymore or even hope to create a CD as hot as Ross’s. It is a sad day for hip-hop because we all love the underdog and we were all rooting for 50, but the problem with the underdog is that once they surpass that status and get on top, some of them let their ego get the best of them and don’t remember how they got there in the first place…

    Hang it up Curtis, not only for yourself, but for what little respect is left for your legacy in hip-hop, because the only thing one more CD is going to do is to finally prove that you were less than average

  • Mikey F Baby

    man Em can dress however he wants. he’s never been fake and he doesnt dress that way

  • DazzOne

    @ General
    Word…word.

  • Dallas Penn

    Respect to $yk, Grand$ and Epinz for facilitating the discussion on this thread. I apologize for playing the sidelines but I was on some weedhead shit yesterday hardbody.

    “Don’t do drugs. Drugs are bad” – Mr. Mackie voice