Beta male rap’s negative influence on our youth

The other day, I was watching this video of this guy body slamming this girl, and I got to thinking, how are there so many kids in one place, and it’s not a school or anything?

Perhaps you’ve seen this video. Sandra Rose posted it the other day with the hilarious title, “Hip-hop’s negative influence on our youth,” or something to that effect. As if kids these days know shit about rap music. I remember seeing it when it was posted to World Star, but I didn’t bother checking it out at the time. For a while there, I was checking out every video they’d post of people fighting, especially if it was a guy beating up a girl, but there’s just so many of them. Now I only bother if I hear something’s especially entertaining.

The body slam clip was pretty rich, as far as these things go. As it begins, this guy and this girl are fighting, and the guy body slams the girl. Then she gets up chases him down, starts swining on him again, then he body slams her again, but even harder, on some ol’ WWE shit.

I’m sure some will argue that the guy was a pussy for fighting a girl in the first place, but it isn’t my intention to have that debate here. You guys know I don’t condone beating up on women, even if it’s warranted morally. But the fight in this clip was different from a guy just up and putting his shoe on a woman. At various points in the video, the girl had ample opportunity to take off running, but she didn’t, because she was too proud. Like that woman who didn’t want to get out of her car when the cop told her to (because that would constitute taking orders) and ended up getting tased. I’m not saying she deserved to get body slammed. I’m just saying.

Anyway, I was more concerned about the sheer number of kids standing around in this parking lot. You hear more and more stories these days about huge groups of black kids walking around in malls, up and down sidewalks, on subway platforms and what have you, and this seems to me like a new development, like tight pants, faux hawks and the like. It’d be hard for me to say, having grown up in the sticks, where there just plain weren’t very many people around, but didn’t kids used to hang out by themselves?

I remember a few years ago I read this story about how 15 or 20 kids in this apartment complex gang raped this woman, and I figured it may have been a matter of group sex gone wrong. I said as much in a post on this site, and there ended up being this whole big thing. At the time, I didn’t realize huge groups of black dudes were going around doing shit together, let alone raping broads. I thought that was some shit you did by yourself.

Fast forward a few years. I’m walking down the street trying to get myself a burrito, and I ended up having to cede the center of the sidewalk to a group of young toughs. I could have taken any one or maybe even two of them, even in my old age, but there were like eight of them. Fags. It ended up being the first in a series of incidents, including the well-publicized robbery of some cracka-ass crackas on the way back from the airport, and a shooting. I did several posts on it on my own site, and there was a big story on it in the Riverfront Times.

This was only last summer, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this summer is even worse – even though we’ve got a black president now, and I know there was some talk of black people stepping their game up. But you saw what happened at Popeyes, and then KFC. In fact, I wonder if these fried chicken riots aren’t a plot by the TIs to make black people look bad. If you notice, they happened right as Obama reached his 100th day in office. Same with swine flu. Hmm…

  • Pierzy

    It’s actually the negative influence of Facebook and Twitter…

    I don’t know what it is. I think part of it is that now we can all be connected through texts and everything that no longer do you have to sit at home and wait for a call. Now, everyone knows where everyone else is and it’s easier to mobilize…even if you’re just getting the $4.99 Chicken Special before they sell out.

    • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

      Negative influences influenced the parents of these kids. What do you expect?

      Said influences have nothing to do with Hip Hop, as some believe. Everything in life begins @ home. If home is fucked up, a life of conflict & turmoil seems normal.

      Hip Hop could very well be fuel to the proverbial fire, but the jury’s still out in that one.

      I have kids, & I’ll be damned if they have nothing better to do than stand around with a bunch of latch-key crumbsnatchers looking for trouble.

      It starts @ home.

      • Pierzy

        Definitely. If no one at home cares, then you don’t think what you do matters. It’s actually sad.

        • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

          @ P

          Whadup fam!?

          Yeah man, it’s beyond sad.

          I’ve always been involed in my kids’ education; volunteering & what have you.

          It’s amazing to me how the kids gravitate to me. I don’t have candy in my pockets or look like a cartoon character. After years of watching the phenomenon, I see that these kids have absolutely no male role models, good or bad. I’m like a novelty act when I sit in class & help them read (the ones that can, smh), write & draw.

          I feel bad because I wish I could be all their dads (no child support) but I can’t save the world. Just my own kids.

        • Pierzy

          Grand$,

          Yeah, it’s hard enough to raise (“save”) your own kids that doing so for the world seems like an almost impossible task…

      • $ykotic

        Hell yeah. That rearing starts in the crib. Can’t expect anyone to teach them what you want them to know.

        On another note:

        Why am I seeing that Datwon resigned over on 50.com and Vanessa took over? Was this over the fat boy suit? Who’s gonna sue Ross?

        • http://tonygrands.blogspot.com Tony Grand$

          @ $yk

          Whatitdo fam?!

          Yeah, I just went over there when you posted. They said LV is suing XXL, then printed the letter, but the letter didn’t say squat about suing them. We both know that. So, I’m less apt to believe DT resigned.

          He just sent me an Email yesterday. But, idk……

        • $ykotic

          I know they pirate post over there. But usually they are on point. Hope they’re not on this one.

          Now back to “diet tony”…

  • ri067953

    When more then two black kids congregate, isn’t that called a gang?

  • SOUTHSIDE A-TOWN

    DAMN. that last paragraph almost made too much sense. but niggaz been hanging around doing shit in the neighborhood, at least mine anyway.

  • OG Matt Herbz

    Whenever I’m confronted with a group of tough looking niggaz walking down the street, I just keep on walking past, looking ahead, because I know I have some place to go and there is money to be lost for fucking around. Why would I give these fucks the impression that I have time to stand around mean-mugging em or get into a scrap with one of them?

    Just keep it moving, yo.

    But niggaz around here already know the deal: Move yo ass out the way when I’m stomping through. I felt bad because the other day, I was walking down the street with a couple of associates and this gang of 4 niggaz was coming my way, going in the other direction. They saw who I was, and I was actually feeling cordial that day, so I was gonna scoot over a little so we all could pass. But before I could do that, these dudes stepped in the street to give me pass on the sidewalk. One of em was like “Hey, Herbz, can you give me a job? Then *BOOM* Out of nowhere a muthafucking Marta bus ran flat over them fools like squirrels or something. Wasted em all.

    And I just kept it moving.

    I might just have to commission the city of Atlanta for wider sidewalks or something.

    –OG Matt Herbz–

    • Capital G

      Fuckin’ hysterical! When the fuck are they gonna give you your own blog?

      • Penelope Rodriguez

        lol

        It’s funny how people used to get angry over him saying “nigga” and now they just accept it lol

  • Dr Flav

    “But you saw what happened at Popeyes, and then KFC. In fact, I wonder if these fried chicken riots aren’t a plot by the TIs to make black people look bad. If you notice, they happened right as Obama reached his 100th day in office. Same with swine flu. Hmm…”

    This is why you got robbed on that “asinine list disguised as journalism” (c)you, that Vibe printed. This is what I expect from a blog some ponder worthy script, written in a proper grammatical form. I admit I use to despise what you wrote, albeit it was well written, until I finally began to understand what you do.

    I dont know if you remember when we debated about it a few years ago here, but I still appreciate when you stopped(?)using to word jig/jigaboo, because that shit use to hurt my heart to read. Keep it up Bol, this site would be a fool to ever front on you.

    PS this admiration is strictly nullus. LOL

  • PARIS PERSHUN

    AMERICA ALWAYS LOOKING TO POINT THE FUCKIN FINGER AT SOMEBODY… ALWAYS SAYIN RAP MUSIC MADE THIS HAPPEN OR THIS SHIT WOULDA NEVA HAPPENED IF SO AND SO DIDNT SAY THAT ON #12…
    IF YOU PUT IT IN KIDS MINDS WRONG FROM RIGHT THEN EVENTUALLY THEY WILL CONVEY…. THEY STILL KIDS SO THEY GON’ DO DUMB SHIT REGARDLESS NOT BECAUSE THEY SAW IT ON T.V. OR HEARD SOMEBODY SCREAMIN’ ABOUT IT… MOST OF THE TIME THEY RE-ENACT WHAT THEY SEE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM EVERYDAY ANYWAY (I.E: MOMMA AND DADDY)…..

    (LEANS BACK AND TURNS “BROCCOLI & CHEESE” WAY WAY WAY WAY THE FUCK UP- DEVIN THE DUDE))

  • Dr Flav

    “Whenever I’m confronted with a group of tough looking niggaz walking down the street, I just keep on walking past, looking ahead, because I know I have some place to go and there is money to be lost for fucking around.”

    Real speech right there, this method works for me wherever I go, ATL, Chi, NY, St Louis…

    My homey from the Chi taught me, “you got to walk like you on something,” whether its drugs, anger, dismay or just business, if you focused on something nine times out of ten the motherfucka you walking by aint trying to get in the middle of whatever thing you got goin on in your mental, if they do step in you way that generally means you walking round lookin nervous and shook.

    Good shit white nigga…

  • EReal

    Yo there was a chicken riot here son. I was up in the popeyes and it started getting hectic cause someone wasnt getting somethin, It got loud so I dipped out to the Pollo Tropical and got my Tropi-Chop on. Real Ish.

    Back in they day when I was a youngin we rolled deep then the video game generation made it so only the freaks and mall rats hung out in packs now that the hiphop generation has merged with the freaks to create some half gym class heroes half lil wayne hybrids, I guess they roll around in house party type packs just looking for things to rape and consume.

    Kinda like vikings.

    There, I just got it, its Flava Flav’s fault!!! The OG Black Viking down for raping old white women.

  • http://xxl All Dae

    Some kids hang together, some roll solo and some do both. What kind of stupid azz post is this today.

    Bol u got 48 hours to come with something better.

    Herbz is a fool with it…

    • chitchat

      I agree. I thought I must have missed something. Kids always hung out in mobs cuz they didn’t have money or cars to go where they really wanted to be. How is this new?

      Did yall grow up in the sticks or smthg?

  • geico lizard

    I dont blame rap for women not knowing when to dead an argument. That shit has been going on for centuries.

    If a man body slams you once why did she think he wouldnt do it again if she chased him? She lost the argument and she lost the fight so she now has two reasons to be ashamed. One day she will make a fine mother and wife.

  • geico lizard

    Mark Cuban disrespected Kenyon Martins mom but no one blames rap for that. Some guys are just assholes who dont respect all women and that is a part of life.

  • Lo

    you recycling posts again?!

  • latino heat

    co-sign everyone that says this shit starts at home. these kids run the street at all hours of the day because there is no one to get in there ass when they get home. when i was a youngster i knew better because even though my dad wasn’t around my uncle was, and he put the fear of god in me at a early age. that’s what these crack baby’s of the early 90′s have become. they grew up with no fear of punishment so now they run wild like nothing can stop them. it’s sad because it’s gonna get worse before it gets better. these little hard head thugs are having kids that they also won’t be around to raise. therefore the cycle begins all over again.

  • Around and Around

    “Fast forward a few years. I’m walking down the street trying to get myself a burrito”

    Quit lyin your big ass don’t walk you were rollin along on your Jazzy

  • jojo

    Commercial media is heavily responsible for the behaviors exhibited by the younger generation. Perhaps it is easy to place blame on Hip-Hop when a black male choke slams a teenage girl while using vernacular accustomed to being used in the inner city. However, where must the blame be placed when young girls scream “girl power” while wearing clothing that does more to belittle and demean than to empower? Certainly not Hip-Hop. Though Hip-Hop certainly had done its share of decaying the young populace, it would be unwise to point fingers. I do not place blame on 50 cent, Paris Hilton, Marilyn Manson, Bishop Don Juan, Madonna, Sylvester Stallone, Amy Winehouse, or any other so-called artists that create questionable characters to market to consumers. Blame the six media conglomerates, blame the parents that allow their children to watch violence without explaining the possible repercussions of those actions, and blame our natural human desires for wanting to listen and watch crude nonsense that makes us dumber simply for the entertainment value that engulfs our asses day after day

  • foolio_iglesias

    Co-signatory!

  • BIGNAT

    that pack has to be at least 10 people or more and they all have to be bigger than me. if not i am walking in and saying excuse when i bump a loser out my way. if they say something you gotta drop the knowledge on them. you are taking up the whole sidewalk and the cars are on the street.where the fuck you want me to walk?
    this post reminds me of a problem i kept having at my friends block out in bk. when you wanna leave the bodega niggas be on the door. after knocking many times fuck it i opened the joint and homie almost fell. of course he trying to get loud so i had to let him know i knocked on the door. what the fuck else you want me to do. he looked at me and said aight and i opened my arizona and kept it moving. i can’t stand when people do stupid shit and they feel like they are in the right. when you block any doorway that you don’t own/rent you are in the wrong always.

  • Chief GreenLeaf

    “Whenever I’m confronted with a group of tough looking niggaz walking down the street, I just keep on walking past, looking ahead, because I know I have some place to go and there is money to be lost for fucking around. Why would I give these fucks the impression that I have time to stand around mean-mugging em or get into a scrap with one of them?”

    “that pack has to be at least 10 people or more and they all have to be bigger than me. if not i am walking in and saying excuse when i bump a loser out my way. if they say something you gotta drop the knowledge on them. you are taking up the whole sidewalk and the cars are on the street.where the fuck you want me to walk? this post reminds me of a problem i kept having at my friends block out in bk. when you wanna leave the bodega niggas be on the door. after knocking many times fuck it i opened the joint and homie almost fell. of course he trying to get loud so i had to let him know i knocked on the door. what the fuck else you want me to do. he looked at me and said aight and i opened my arizona and kept it moving. i can’t stand when people do stupid shit and they feel like they are in the right. when you block any doorway that you don’t own/rent you are in the wrong always.”

    ^^^
    Someone needs to start a blog about ‘really’ keeping it real… These two comments can be the first posts.

  • vansur

    It aint just black kids man, its KIDS in general, im a white dude from a.. not a hood, but like deff low income housing ( crackheads, single parents, dealers) and the other day a 15 year old good lookin girl was beat down in a fuckin park like it was nothing, to death not to forget, rip, these kids are fucked up straight up, im been listening to rap since i was 13 im 20 now, and it aint got shit to do with the game, all my bros hustle hard n shit and still have respect for anyone that desevers it, we aint gunna hop out and beat on a kid for no reason, even if dude owes cash, its just has to do with peoples morals and were there at in they head, but if i see some fucked up shit like that, a kids or adults its getting there skulled cracked, keep it moving real talk