Where’s Eminem’s song about Asher Roth?

I was on my way home the other day from eating free school fundraiser pizza at my parents’ house (sometimes I do shit like that), and they got to talking about Asher Roth on Shade 45.

Normally, I can’t stand Shade 45, but I’ve been forcing myself to listen to it a lot more, on the outside chance that my name is mentioned. I remember I was riding somewhere with my little brother back in like ’06 and Bun B started talking about me. And of course there was last week’s incident with Ashley Logan. Who knows how many other times I’ve been mentioned on Sirius.

With technology like Twitter, cell phones and what have you, I’m pretty confident that, if I did all of a sudden become the topic of discussion on, say, Kay Slay’s program on Shade 45, I could fire up my laptop or run out to my car and catch it. But last week I made the mistake of shutting off both my laptop and my cell while I was meeting with a guy about buying a house. I see I might have to start keeping my shit on me at all times, like a surgeon, or Ari from Entourage. That, or I could hire a tiny chinaman to follow me around and check my Twitter. Nullus.

The topic of discussion on Shade 45 the other day was Asher Roth. They got to talking about how he’s got an album coming out 4/20, which is a Monday rather than a Tuesday, for all of you pot smokers, and how he’s got a song out complaining about how he gets compared to Eminem. Then they played the first verse of “As I Em,” even though the full version had already hit the Internets by that time Friday.

I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t pull over to the side of the road and take notes or anything, and I don’t remember a whole lot about “As I Em.” I did receive my special critics copy of Asleep in the Bread Aisle this morning, and I’m probably gonna have a look this afternoon, but management likes to have these posts up by 2 pm. Never mind what’s going on in the news cycle. You guys are lucky I don’t make the topic of each post some asinined question. By the way, do any of you guys remember that group Naughty by Nature? So this post isn’t gonna be about the song per se.

A few things that occurred to me listening to “As I Em” the other day on Sirius:

1) Never let it be said that the TIs aren’t riding for their nephew. Every time I turn on Shade 45, they’re talking about Asher Roth. Are the people who listen to Shade 45 even feeling his music like that? I know the station is named after Eminem, but from what I understand, he’s only been on there like twice in the past five years. It seems like more often than not they’re playing Fiddy Cent and other garbage along those lines.

2) This was obviously a savvy move by Asher Roth. If he didn’t want to be compared to Eminem, why would he put a song with Em’s name in the title on his debut album. You’d think he’d be better off just making sure his shit doesn’t sound that much like Eminem. Instead, this is only gonna lead to more people comparing him to Eminem, which will lead to even more free publicity for Asher Roth and hence even more money in Asher Roth’s pocket. Which I’m sure was the real goal here in the first place.

3) Speaking of Naughty by Nature, does anyone else here remember the days when Eminem would dis a white rapper just for having the sheer balls to be white. I’m pretty sure at least half of the white rappers he dissed back in the late ’90s-early ’00s never so much as mentioned Eminem’s name in a song, let alone named a song after him. Eminem just went after them to set himself apart from the rest of them, like that one white guy in a black gang who does something especially crazy just to prove his stripes.

4) Which begs the question: Isn’t it kinda incumbent upon Eminem at this point to mention Asher Roth in a song? It was one thing back when all Asher Roth had done was borrow Eminem’s whole style and steal the thunder of what was supposed to be his big comeback season. But now he’s got a song about Eminem on his album. Like I said, I wasn’t taking notes during “As I Em,” but I don’t recall the tone of it being nearly as deferential as it should have been. That alone would have been construed as shots fired, if this was 1999.

Eminem might be playing himself by letting this shit slide. I’m sure – like most grown people – he could care less about Asher Roth. But that’s the thing: If Eminem doesn’t care anymore, then why should I? It used to be that Eminem was something of an underdog in hip-hop. He had to take random shots at Cage just to appease the black community. His main source of conflict had to do with him being a white rapper, and trying to prove himself in a black culture and so on and so forth. What’s his main source of conflict at this point, the fact that his heart is messed up from doing too much coke? He might need to pick a fight with somebody just to have something to talk about.

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  • Pierzy

    I’ve never agreed with you more. There are some serious people that NEED to see Asher Roth succeed. Everywhere you turn, people are talking about him like he’s good and meanwhile, I can’t find anyone that even kinda likes his shit. I know people that have never heard of him and others that think it’s the new Eminem album (and, thus, think Em has REALLY lost his touch).

    His hype and media machine far outpaces his ability. And, if you don’t want to be compared to Eminem, then don’t steal his trademarks, specifically the adlibs in girl voices.

    Asher Roth is garbage.


      great points pierzy

    • $ykotic

      Damn P! You do not like AsherEm!!! LOL

      It’s cool. I don’t either. But I still think Em has some darts to throw his way on one of these albums.

      Come on. It’s Eminem guys. When has he ever not got at someone? He already started!

      Starting next week, the music is gonna heat up like the weather! I am ready!

  • Worley

    “I could hire a tiny chinaman to follow me around.”

    Bol, you a fool man.

    I don’t give a sh*t about Asher Fraud, Eminem, Vanilla Ice or Snow. White men rapping never meant a damn thing to me. “Me lick dem boom boom down.”

    • OG Matt Herbz

      Nice “Informer” drop. I always wondered why the fuck dude talked that way.

      Anyway, it’s getting old dissing on Asher Roth. I’ve shat on homey so hard in the last few months, that I hardly can come up with anything more to say. He ain’t Hip Hop, he’s this starch white booty rapper from some uppity college trying to make it in Hip Hop when his whole fanbase actually listens to Coldplay and Weezer and other gay ass white boy shit that caters to stupid, drunk college dudes. Asher caters to dudes that I wouldn’t let into my fucking party. You ever been to a party where frat boys and wanna-be frat boys started showing up? They ruin the chill atmosphere. You get 15 guys all trying to be the fucking life of the party and they gotta play some kind of game with their shit just to drink a beer. Fuck them fags. I wouldn’t let Asher or his homeboys within a block from one of my kegs. He’s the kind of dude that answers everything with a “Nice!” or “Sweet!” and when he’s feeling what you’re saying, he might throw out a “Yo, solid.” or “Yeah, that’s what’s up.” But make no fucking mistake, America, Asher Roth is not Hip Hop.

      –OG Matt Herbz–

  • 2Gutta

    What’s his main source of conflict at this point, the fact that his heart is messed up from doing too much coke?

    ^ why do ppl say that stuff? u neva met eminem so why u sayin he does coke? dumbass

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      Why would he have a lot of money and not do cocaine?

      Stop being such a dumbass.

      • ah huh

        Oh for fuck sake, coming back from my long sunny hol and finding out that this twat has now recovered from his manic depression and is gracing us with new music material….how cruel!

  • latino heat

    where the fuck did dude come from anyway? he has NO BUZZ in the street. if it wasn’t for this website i wouldn’t know who he was. the one time i seen his video on MTV Jams it didn’t even have his name on the video, i just knew his face from here. he better sell well to college kids and upper middle class kids though. nobody else knows who he is. that’s the one thing he has in common with all the other white rappers Em ethered. nobody gave a fuck about any of them either. or even knew who they were for that matter.

  • sealsaa

    Maybe Eminem feels like he’s at a point in his career where he doesn’t need to respond to lesser artist, a~la Jay Z vs. Cam’ron (and pretty much all of Dipset). He might be playing himself, but Pierzy makes a good point; I have yet to meet very many people who like Asher Roth’s music, or that suggest that he’s anywhere near Eminem’s level lyrically. He might be playing himself by even giving Asher Roth the time of day.

  • Big Chris

    Bol…you are a funny dude….I usually don’t read your post but this was funny..Especially the part about carrying the laptop around like Ari and having a Chinaman follow you around and check you twitter…lmao that was classic. Give the white boy a chance..he might turn out to be real dope..I ain’t heard too much of his music..but the state of hip hop forces me to at least check out any new rappers with new product…I’m just tired of the whole gangster shit…and even some of these new rappers with tight jeans on(what part of the game is this?)….And if I see another grown man rocking a mohawk or some 80s style haircut, I’mma start riding up to radio stations across the county and smaking each 1 of these DJ’s for supporting that bullshit when there are plenty of new artist with new music and style who don’t have to resort to adopting styles from the 80′s or wear tight jeans…or mention that there chevy is the same color as a frito bag….

  • El Tico Loco

    Lets try this for one week, just one week, aight? Without mentioning Asher Roth or any one of them other cats maybe cept for Corey Gunz, just one week.

  • Mutada al sader the king

    AsherEM.. Is a clone

    I’ve been such a vocal critic of him for that reason alone. If he at least brought something new to the table,.. a new flow, some dope off the hook lyrics, some unknown producer with fire beats that distinguishes him.. Than maybe I could stomach the cloneism. Some clones are dope. Glenn Lewis is a stone cold Stevie Wonder clone, Robin Thike is a Marvin Gaye Clone etc. But these dudes both have their own style (somewhere in there). You get flashes of it from time to time.

    That’s not the case with AsherEM, he’s cloned Em’s first and second album style so closely that the “influenced by”, thing just doesn’t work anymore. I thought we’d get flashes of the REAL AsherEM on the album. Maybe, he would put away the Em voice and show us WHO HE IS, instead he sounds more like Em.

    Why on earth would he mention Em in a song ? Do the bloggers and radio personalities really have that much power that they forced you to do a song? Did your label say it was a good idea?

    You would think he would keep doing his “Em paved the way”, and “We have different backgrounds” thing. Instead he invites even more criticism. Like I said in one of my other posts on this guy, he’s not some 12 year old fan walking around singing along with his favorite artist. He’s a grown ass man making a choice to sound like another grown ass man.

    Should EM mention him ? Yes. But he needs to do it in such a way that he does not add to AsherEM’s (XXL only Buzz). I think a “STAN” part two from the viewpoint of an artist that listens to another 24-7 and cant distinguish himself from the original anymore would be appropriate. Do it as a cautionary tale, about listening to another artist too closely when you yourself are trying to be an artist.

    • Yayza

      “If he at least brought something new to the table,.. a new flow, some dope off the hook lyrics, some unknown producer with fire beats that distinguishes him.. Than maybe I could stomach the cloneism. “

      I take it you haven’t actually heard any of Asher Roth’s music? While I don’t find his flow amazing, it definitely isn’t the same as Eminem, by any means. The only thing that makes him and Em similar is his voice. That’s it. Why do we not hear about Bobby Ray sounding like Andre 3000? Because he’s black? Kinda ridiculous if you ask me. Asher’s subject matter at the very least borders on original, and as far as producers, Oren Yoel has some killer beats on the album.

  • geico lizard

    Asher Roths machine behind him paid eminem a bunch of money to not diss asher roth and kill his career but they didnt pay him enough money to do a duet with him called”Im dreaming of a white Christmas”.

  • $ykotic

    BTW Bol did you clean up that mess? You know we wanna see the response!

    I see you had some slick indirects for Kay. But you just posted the vid.

    U must still be thinking….

  • capcobra

    dammit….another asher roth promo.

  • Mutada al sader the king

    Yea Bol, that chubby lil monkey tried to go in you. Are the powers that B not leting you respond on XXL’s site ?


    If Asher Roth had a girlfriend with a big booty, beat her up, and then admitted he was once a corrections officer, his rap career would be on the right track.

    Oh yeah: He’d also have to do a song in Auto-Tune featuring Lil Wayne. Almost forgot that part…

  • Mikey F Baby

    “You’d think he’d be better off just making sure his shit doesn’t sound that much like Eminem. ”

    Word and word.

  • ?

    stfu dont talk shytt about Em…
    He’s matured so much over the past 4 years, he doesn’t need to respond.
    That was the old em…this is marshall now, take it or leave it.
    Im a true fan and I’ll rock with him as slim shady, eminem, or whoever the fuck he wants to be.

    Who knows…he might just call out the lil marshmallow on his album.

  • ah huh

    Can someone please let Eminem know that it’s 2009 please? Warning – the following video contains a fart gag. Seriously.

    It’s difficult to know where to start with this – on one hand it’s just Eminem doing what he usually does, which is pop-culture referenced rhyming over almost comical baroque style beats and on the other hand, it… ah fuck it – sounds like shit.

    His voice sounds terrible, his reference points are completely mistimed (did he recording this song over a period of 4 years? Oh hahah Amy Winehouse is drunk and Britney is a mess! LOL)

    Quite literally not very good at all. Marshall Mathers, the world has moved on

  • sealsaa

    @ ah huh

    Yeah, he seems to stick to that same, tired ass format of his. It was old when Encore came out, but now its just prehistoric. He’s lyrically gifted, and he’s got the mainstream appeal (or HAD it), not to mention an endless list of producers and rappers at his disposal. I just don’t understand why he doesn’t come with something better.

  • Mutada al sader the king

    ^ Look at AsherEM and his fag pal, posting under strange name and trying to dis the one who created them. Pathetic.

    For the record, and this is soooooooo real.
    Em’s new song is better than every AsherEM song thats hit the net ever. He has more clever lines and a better flow, in the first verse than all of AsherEM shit put together. And that song IS wack.

  • sealsaa

    Didn’t say anything about liking Asher Roth. If you knew how to read, then you’d see that. Its clear that you’re one of these die-hard STANS who will support your favorite artist, no matter how shitty his music gets. No wonder Eminem sticks to the same tired format every album. He’s got tard’s like you in his ear telling him that everything he does is gold.

  • Brownie

    yeah and your one of these fans for an artist that gets stuck behind eminem because he aint as good. Jealosy gets u nowhere my freind,. Asher Roth sucks donkey dick!

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