BLOG: Rhythm and Swag

At first I felt betrayed when Kanye announced this album wouldn’t be a rap disc. I mean this is Hip-hop, and it’s cool if the rockers shit on us- fuck them they hadn’t had a true rock star since Kurt Cobain. But somewhere in between rappers dick riding Chris Martin and T-Pain’s likeness it seems Hip-hop’s biggest artists abandoned us for acceptance from the rockers with a new sort of genre that some are already dubbing “Rhythm and Swag.”

We already know Wayne is on some shit walking around with a guitar that he can barely play three notes on and I don’t know what to think of his new joint “Hot Revolver” just yet. I mean it isn’t bad, but it isn’t quite hip-hop either. Jay-Z hasn’t resorted to “rockin’ out” per se but he also seems to be less concerned with the rap community these days. It’s funny, Hov could give a fuck if a rapper disses him but as soon as money from Oasis utters a word, he fires all types of corny comebacks. Then these dudes have the audacity to actually fight over Coldplay songs. You don’t see Chris Martin singing, “I told Rivers Cuomo I got a song with Jay-Z, next thing I know he got a song with Jay-Z.” The rockers don’t give a fuck about doing any music with us, so why are we seeking acceptance like redheaded stepchildren? This is Hip-hop! Shit, remember when the Grammy’s wouldn’t even televise the rap portion of the awards? Jay boycotted that shit even after winning album of the year with Hard Knock Life, now that was a moment.So what is Rap’s obsession with rock?

On “Swagger Like Us” Kanye brags that his “Swagger is like Mick Jagger.” Is that something to be proud of? I mean Mick Jagger is 847 years old and has most likely experimented with men at some point in his life- not that there is anything wrong…aww forget it. Part of me blames Nas with his whole Hip-hop is dead shit, even though Q-Tip was the first rapper that I ever heard say that in a Source interview many years back. The problem is, once prominent artists like Nas, Jay, Kanye and T.I. start declaring Hip-hop uncool (through actual quotes or singing singles, or straight up neglect), it makes it easier for those outside of the culture to start similar campaigns. Kinda makes you appreciate Young Jeezy’s rappin’ ass don’t it? By the way where the hell is Lil Boosie?

Don’t get it twisted though, rap had a great year. Killer Mike dropped an amazing album that most cats ignored. Black Milk, Elzhi and Kidz in the Hall all dropped solid joints. Luda has a monster of an album; Game delivered a good one, as did Nas and Rick Ross. And next year I look forward to Joe Budden, 50, Eminem (I’ve given up on Detox but that’s just me), as well as Asher Roth’s and Mickey Factz’ respective debuts.

As far as 808′s and Heartbreak goes, I wanna give Kanye the benefit of the doubt because he has given us three amazing rap albums (shit I think Graduation is a classic and The College Dropout would be to if it wasn’t for “Breathe In, Breathe Out”). So, as of now I refuse to pass judgment on the music because I’ve only heard it about three times and I need to give it another week or two. But whether the album is good or bad or great or just ok, as a hip-hopper, I pray Ye’s next album is a rap one. But then again if this album manages to go quadruple platinum, I’m buying stock in auto-tune and glow sticks. —Rob the Music Ed

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  • IndyKid



    Graduation classic and It`s Dark and hell is Hot overrated?
    You don`t know jack shit about hiphop so stick to country music

    • JUMZ

      Jay man, DMX is garbage, which is why they rushed albbums 2 and 3 when he was around because they knew that barking shit wouldnt last long.. I would even put Cam’s first album over any of DMX joints..

      • dirty

        its dark and hell is hot is definatly a classic. how old are you 17? you started listening to hip hop 1n 2000?

        • JUMZ

          Dirty jus look me up and you’ll get ya answer.. Now pay attention boy.. Old Cam lyrically destroys “X” if you a hip hop head stop listening to bullshit and start diggin in the crates.. Cam might be fucked up now but that’s one of the few niggas to get a Co-Sign from BIG.. Know ya fuckin history.. The Commision puta!

          As for Dark man X, he just made memorable anthems not memorable albums.. I don’t know anyone that would consider him to be a great.. I mean you must be sitting in your house wearing a ruff ryder rhinestone bandana writing letters to this crack head in the desert, the fact that I’m risking carpel tunnel syndrome (however you spell that shit) typing this to you is disgusting.. Seriously, barking isn’t hip hop!

  • avenger xl

    Dude really all genres of music goes through phases but noon quite like hip-hop. We had the early days which started in the parks and house parties with party raps, We had the grand master flash era when they co-opted the funk look and dress and sound with a dance disco feel. Then we had the early eighties when it defined itself and proved it could do more than party. Since then hiphop has done Techno, street culture,Jazz,SOUL,spagehhetti western chinese flicks, horror movies, we already done rock once with Run DMC and the Beastie Boys. So after their assention to pop idol status rappers are doing pop-rock celebrity shit. But just like rock the more traditional forms of the music will remain indie with some break outs while the corporations will promote the watered sown easy to swallow pop versions. So don’t sweat Kanye or Lil Waynes movements they are not that important to the big picture. Support Black Milk, Kids in the Hall, The Roots, Killa Mike,The Lab Ratz from ATL and other sounds that you like. Hip-hop is too ever changing to be really hurt by it’s fads.

  • DV8

    I gave up on Detox 3 years ago. Since when is “swag” a skill. These non rappers in the game got these kids thinking how they look is more important then what they are saying. SMH i am so disappointed in hiphop right now. I hope Eminem brings back some of that lyricism and flow that he had when he 1st came out like on that Before The Relapse mixtape.

  • niggaplease

    Actually it was a terrible year and all those albums you named were either shitty or boring.

    So far only the Tip record, Tha Carter III (which is merely okay I have to emphasize) and Johnson & Jonson were good in rap this year.

    And Ghostface said “swagger is Mick Jagger” first like two years ago. It just rhymes and Jagger does indeed have swagger so its evocative.

    And rock music, real rock music not Nickelback and Hinder, doesn’t sell anywhere as much as rap so your fears are unmerited.

    Plus: Um remember all the rock samples in rap?

  • FB

    graduation a classic…. i don’t think so. it was easily a 8.5/10 but for me late registration is still kanYes magnum opus. its has the orchestral feel which will make it sound timeless in years to come. lyrics were also better. variety of material covered was wider.
    in a few years graduation… although good will just sound a bit corny will all the sugary synths.

  • FB

    Best rap album this year…. q-tip.

  • amar

    jay-z didn’t do rock? He had an entire album with linkin park, remixing the black album with rock. If anything, Jay-z is one of the people who started this recent trend!

    and if ur gonna blame nas because he said hip hop is dead, might as well blame the reason he said hip hop was dead. Southern snap music! Everytime soulja boy posts a new dance on youtube, 25 mcs’ careers die.

    • Rob The Music Ed

      I try to forget about the Jay-Z/Linkin Park debacle. I’ve actually erased it from my memory.

      • FlapJack

        Don’t even bring THAT shit up..gawd..

        One another note, pretty much everything you hear nowadays is heavily influenced by hip-hop. even rock.. so I like to think hip-hop took over and got watered out rather then died..

  • adam

    “On “Swagger Like Us” Kanye brags that his “Swagger is like Mick Jagger.” Is that something to be proud of? I mean Mick Jagger is 847 years old and has most likely experimented with men at some point in his life- not that there is anything wrong…aww forget it”

    Who cares? He bit that line from Ghostface anyway.

  • Khalid Salaam

    I’ve been listening to Heartbreaks and 808′s all morning and i have to say..its pretty weak. If would have cut out the auto-tuner that would have made it a lot better but since he used it, a lot of the songs sounds the same. i don’t hate the production but the lyrics aren’t really great and the collabo’s are nothing special. wayne and jeezy add nothing to this album. I appreciate the emotions he’s reaching for but it doens’t work. All the auto-tuner makes the songs sound weird really. Giving off kind of a skeletal feeling that keeps it from resonating. Kanye is one of my fav artists and his collection of songs puts him high on my list of the greats (i caught the glow in the dark tour earlier this year and when you hear the songs together its obvious how taleneted he is) but he dropped the ball here. He’s feeling grief because of his mom’s passing and break up and i respect that. But i can’t support this album. I’ll just wait for the next one and keep it moving. Bad part is i was looking forward to new music. I don’t know what to expect next from Hip-Hop but a mf like me is getting really frustrated with it right now. Because right now, is as bad as it’s ever been and i don’t know when its gonna get better. So to sum it up, ‘Ye flopped.

    • Rob The Music Ed

      I agree Glow in the Dark was AMAZING!

  • Gooch

    These guys are music lovers, they want to express themselves through more than just rhyming couplets on a 4/4 drum beat.

    Rap isn’t cool because anymore because pretty much anyone can do it. The labels promoted bullshit for so many years, so now that’s what is acceptable. The minute the standard was lowered, the flood gates opened.

    You have to play a guitar, sing some notes, do some type of real music to set yourself apart from guys who just lay down lyrics over beats a la Rick Ross and the other guys you mentioned.

  • harmen k

    yeah the mich jagger/swagger line is from ghost
    on the champ remix
    i’m kinda uneasy about 808s tho
    i know it’s super original, and he really does
    talk about genuine sadness,for instance
    listen to the first like 6 “bars”
    on the song welcome to heartbreak, or coldes winter, or the one with jeezy, or the one with wayne is fire too.
    It won’t be a great album and a lot of rap fans
    i think will abandon kanye after this, but it will be solid all of the emotion, he’s on a different planet right now, who cares if it’s auto tune! if anyone were to bless it, it would be kanye he would use tastefully i kno that

  • Yoda

    “Breathe In, Breathe Out” was the weakest track to you?


    “The New Workout Plan” would be the track that keeps it from being classic, and I can tolerate that.

    I co-sign the whole idea of this post doe.

    • nlitwiller

      The original version of The New Workout Plan may have been one of the weakest tracks on the album but it was totally redeemed by the remix with Twista and Bentley.
      And I would go as far to say that Kanye has dropped three classics in a row. While I do not think that 808s will be a classic in my eyes I will admit that I do enjoy listening to it.
      I wish people would get past the fact that it’s not a rap album. Ye has made three rap albums but I think he’s an artist before he’s a rapper. He just decided to use a different medium for this album.

  • No Mercy

    hip hop is dying. DRE, EMINEM, where the fuck are you?

  • darealist

    man, i so glad you said all this shit that i’ve been thinkin about. i’m gonna tell everyone i know to read this, especially everyone i know hatin on kanye’s new album (which i don’t love but like you said we should give him the benefit of the doubt)

  • Cinsere

    Q-Tip’s The Renaissance = Album of the Year! How does it not even get a mention?!

    • Rob The Music Ed

      because I just briefly mentioned the albums that i liked this year- i didnt aim to make a definitive list.

      I hope you bought that Q-Tip album and didnt just download it since ya feel so strongly.

  • Peru (Chicago)

    Just another form of coonery. Straight nigga mentality to wanna be accepted by masta and all masta thinks is good. Its kinda sickening, the niggas WE made famous, the niggas WE made rich, the niggas lives WE saved turned their backs on us to cater to those that are within their tax bracket, none other than MR. WHITEY. All niggas is talkin bout is how rich and fly they are, have they seen what THEIR PEOPLE are going thru??? Aint no nigga in the hood fly right now, WE all are hurtin!!! But its ok, the meek shall inherit the earth.

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  • kkh

    dont try and blame hip hop being dead on the fact that snap music came from the south, so did luda, ugk, outkast and t.i. And swagger like mick jagger is a pimp c lyric no? a dont think the mix with rock is a bad thing as long as its done well and they come back to hip hop in the end, let them experiment. 808′s and heartbreaks is the 1st ye album i wont buy but i aint mad let him do his thing just as long as he follows it up with a solid hip hop album!Theres still REAL hip hop out there you just got to look a little harder. just play lupe the cool until ems next album drop

  • cain razor

    can we stop using “swagger” and “swag”. that shit is played out.

    t-pain made hip hop not cool.

  • Crocker

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to branch out and do something different. But the auto-tune shit ain’t different. And if there gonna bring that back, I’m still waiting on the Kid N Play Gumby to come back as well. Now Wayne is miming guitar next to the K-I-D at the Country Music Awards (Seriously, Country Music, Weezy?) Maybe if more tappers took the Cobain originality approach today it would be more interesting than all these non-rappers saturating the game. To paraphrase what ‘Face said in the All Hip-Hop interview, You ‘re not all rappers, so quit trying. If you really love it,then take more time harnessing your craft. Instead coming off with something that capitalizes on the popular movement of the moment and in turn you’re remembered like that cheerleading bitch that wrote that Mickey song. Bunch of band-wagon jumping ass fruit-bars. The whole lot of em make me sick to my fucking bowels. Which is redundant since the majority sound like shit.

  • MIchael

    Jay-Z is the one to blame. ONce Danger Mouse remixed The Black album, Jay became this Hipster God. All of sudden Pitchfork was saying The BLueprint was the second best album of the decade, jhe was the best rapper ever and he was being accepted by the more mainstream media. Now everyone wants that love, and it’s easier for guys like Kanye abnd even Lil Wayne who aren’t your typical street niggas to get that love becasue they are more relatable.

    • bt

      can we stop saying “swagger/swag” its getting played out.

      t-pain is the reason hip hop isnt cool.

      • Simple like ABC, 123

        Swag or Swagger = The worst word trend in the history of Hip-Hop

  • Michael

    By the way the Ghallaghers were the last Rock Stars.

  • tony grand$

    I’ve always looked @ hip hop like the bastard child of the music world. We’ve taken bits @ pieces of all types of genre’s & made it our own culmination. To me, the mere fact that it started by taking break beats from old 45′s & turning them into whole songs shows that we found can find lumps of coal, & turn them into diamonds by our own hands. We don’t get the credit for that. Our hip hop would take 30 seconds of some unheard song by some off-brand flutist, & create a whole universe behind that 1 samble. Granted, its always been rock ‘n’ roll’s third cousin (as most noted in the Run DMC hayday), so if a marriage of cultures were to happen, it would naturally begin with the two dominant of styles of music. Rock & hip hop are extremely similar, yet entirely diff, depending on who you ask. From the release of “Nevermind” by Nirvana (the first non-hip hop album I evr purchased), I was taken aback by the similarities between that album & a lot of the hip hop that was prevailent @ the time. Self hate, depression, schizophrenia, violence, anger, & to me, that Grunge music was hella tight if only for the honest expression that you wouldn’t find in, say, Aerosmith or Ozzy Osborn. @ the same time, hip hop doesn’t stay the same, its not uniform. Think of the many diff genres in it alone that have come & gon just within the last decade. Whoever thought gangsta rap would be steam rolled by fashion rap, or that one day Vanilla Ice would pave the way for Eminem. Its in fact the chameleon quality of OUR music that gives it the personality it has. Now, its only natural that cats gravitate to other things. I’m glad Wayne walks around with a guitar, its a far cry from when MC Ren took pictures holdin guns. I’m glad Jay Z used the word ‘bloke’ in a lyric. I like the Snoop Dogg/Kid Rock song. With so much bullshit rap going on, who wouldn’t start to venture out. Really, I can only stomach so much Soulja Boy, & T-Pain is startin to annoy me. I believe the roots have been firmly set into the soil, & like Barak Obama so eloquently states, “its time for change”. Shit, why the fuck not?

  • jean veritte

    in my opinion this hip hop rock has been with us since the 80′s. “Rock this way” does that ring any bells? yes people run dmc one of the greatest rap trio’s and exciting pioneers that contributed to the rap community. Of course they did this classic hit with the great aerosmith! we can’t really blame these rappers for this slight seismic shift to rock every now and then. shit their predecessors influenced them to be the rappers they are today!


    Well to be honest
    Rap is kind of a “bite” of many other genres.
    Like, the greatest rap beats are sampled from jazz and classical music.. And Timbo expiriments with arabic and indian…

    So they are jus trying to show that they have love for other types of music and are versitile.

    If you just like one Genre your messed and closed minded… Its not Rap vs Rock.. Its Good Music vs Bad Music.

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  • dan99

    Good post, but I don’t really see why you’re blaming Nas for this whole rock influence with hip-hop. It was always there just not as prominent and I think it can only benefit hip-hop as whole to reach out and be more musically creative.

  • dan99

    Good look out on the Buddens padded room coming out in Feb., btw that halfway house was dope as hell.

  • chris

    breathe in breathe out was nice man u need to go back and listen to it again ur crazy

  • 615banga

    Top 10 Rap Artists

    1. Ludacris
    2. Nas
    3. Bun B
    4. Eminem
    5. Snoop Dogg
    6. Styles P
    7. Kanye West
    8. T.I.
    9. The Game

  • 615banga

    Top 10 Rap Artists

    1. Ludacris
    2. Nas
    3. Bun B
    4. Eminem
    5. Snoop Dogg
    6. Styles P
    7. Kanye West
    8. T.I.
    9. The Game
    10. Lil Wayne

  • 615banga

    Top 10 Rap Artists

    1. Ludacris
    2. Busta Rhymes
    3. Bun B
    4. Nas
    5. Eminem
    6. Snoop Dogg
    7. Styles P
    8. T.I.
    9. The Game
    10. Lil Wayne

  • tony=truth

    Rap/Hip-hop is an evolving thing. From back in the day rap, to now, it has changed so much. I don’t think rappers are looking for acceptance form rockers, really all it is, is marketing. For a rapper to say a rockers name in a song is opening doors for that artist. Bringing in some new ears, which means bringing in more money.Most of the listeners/fans of rap are not black. At the end of the day its all about that green for these artist. When they make an album they are feeding more than just themselves.

  • Oneofthemyo’s

    There was a couple of good albums out this year, u mentioned a couple I’m sure there were some good underground ones 2(like halfway house)
    I never heard jay nas or T.I saying hip hop was uncool I’m guessing u baseing that on kanye’s and jays actions.

    Fuck rock music,shit is boring sorry rock lovers and white people(even though niggas invented it)

    Jesse and Al need to try to bury the word SWAG

    Thats the thing i like with rap people can say hip hop is dead all they want but there is so much different shit, hip hop lovers is good, people just gotta search u got unique shit from a MF DOOM 2 GUCCI MANE

    The mane dudes fucking with this alternative shit are the suburban raised rappers a la wayne and kanye them niggas and they fans can keep that shit

    and oh yeah lil boosie prolly still in jail.

  • blake symphony

    yo i understand that listening to a non singer sing througha whole album can be a turn off to alotta hip hop purist….but u have to understand that the genre is SUPPOSED to be one of originality and if nothing else give Kanye points for continuously raising the bar and making a very sh*tty genre (on the mainstream level) look like it has some kind of artistic merit.

    all these bangwagon hipsters are lame….so are all these boring a*s 1994 sounding a*s rappers….BUT I’LL BE DANGED IF ALL THESE FAKE A*S, LIL WAYNE/YOUNG JEEZY BITING RAPPER AINT EITHER!!!!

    F*CK whats ‘real hip hop” and whats not, and lets listen to QUALITY MUSIC.and the rest will fall in place.

  • Jerod

    You guys are the reason rappers are turning over to rock. It’s not the musicians that are wholly accepting rappers as back up vocalists, it’s the fucking fans. That fuckiiin… what is it? “When I, arrive, I, I bring the fire…” Wayne has what? Half a verse all together on that song? The general population is eating it up though. And damn, I heard that song what… like four months ago with just wayne on it? I’d bet half my money (which ain’t much) on the assumption that rock musicians themselves are coming to rappers to to do what they do on their shit. But ya’ll, you take it as abandonment. It’s not fucking abandonment, it’s called branching out, trying something new. Plus, making money. I think that’s why the world is so confused, to many sub-genres for everything. If someone is asked, “What kind of music do you listen to?” That person should be able to respond: “Kind of music? Fool I don’t know what you’re talking about, I listen to Music.” That’s just an example. I don’t know if it would work for everything.

  • Jerod

    I wonder how many people smoke and then decide to rant about something on XXL?

    Shiiit, I don’t do that.

  • Hawaiian

    maybe if Kanye wants to express his musicality, he should fuck with real musicians on the experimental tip like FlyLo, Jneiro, Hudson Mohawke and Rustie. the whole Warp records crew.

  • Simple lie ABC, 123

    Swag or Swagger = The worst word trend in Hip-Hop

  • andreas

    “There are different styles to jazz. It is a music that has evolved with time. Recognizing the styles won’t make you enjoy the songs any more, but it may help you for instance, if somebody tells you, “this is a great bebop CD,” you will have an idea what it is, and you can recognize which styles you have a preference for. I don’t think there is a person alive who likes ALL jazz. A lot? Yes. All? No. There is surely some guy out there who grates your nerves. ”

    Hip Hop is not dead, but for it to live it has to be able to EVOLVE. there were ppl saying the same thing in 1979 and did not like the way “Hip Hop” was evolving.

    If hip Hop had not been able to Evolve.. from Afrika Bambaaata to Grand master Flash to Kurtis Blow to Run DMC to LL Cool J to De La Soul to Public Enemy to NWA to Tribe called Quest to NAS to JAy Z to.. THERE WOULD NOT BE the artist that we have today.

    Let Hip Hop live by letting it Evolve. We are just in a point in time where there are several different styles (THAT IS A GOOD THING) you have your East coast NAS/JAY Z to Young jEEZEY TO bAY AREA RAP TO rETRO kIDS TO MIA TO the Cool Kids etc etc.

    Its ALL Hip Hop. if you want to be a Hip Hop Nazi about it.. then ANY Hip Hop Act out should really include Grafiti,DJ’ing, Break Dance and Rap, with out ALL THAT, you are just a Rap artist and not a HIP HOP ARTIST (im not a Hip Hop Nazi, cos times change, music,fashion evolves)

    Now how many Artist out in 2008 include all those elements, and are “real’ hip Hop artist ?

    -Don’t worry, I can wait..

    I met this girl, when I was ten years old
    And what I loved most she had so much soul
    She was old school, when I was just a shorty
    Never knew throughout my life she would be there for me On the regular, not a church girl she was secular Not about the money, no studs was mic checkin her But I respected her, she hit me in the heart

    A few new york niggaz, had did her in the park
    But she was there for me, and I was there for her Pull out a chair for her, turn on the air for herAnd just cool out, cool out and listen to herSittin on a bone, wishin that I could do her

    Eventually if it was meant to be, then it would be Because we related, physically and mentally
    And she was fun then, Id be geeked when shed come around Slim was fresh yo, when she was underground Original, pure untampered and down sister Boy I tell ya, I miss her

    Verse two:

    Now periodically I would see
    Ol girl at the clubs, and at the house parties
    She didnt have a body but she started gettin thick quick Did a couple of videos and became afrocentric Out goes the weave, in goes the braids beads medallions She was on that tip about, stoppin the violence

    About my people she was teachin me By not preachin to me but speakin to me In a method that was leisurely, so easily I approached She dug my rap, thats how we got close But then she broke to the west coast, and that was cool Cause around the same time, I went away to school And Im a man of expandin, so why should I stand in her way

    She probably get her money in l.a.
    And she did stud, she got big pub but what was foul She said that the pro-black, was goin out of style She said, afrocentricity, was of the past So she got into r&b hip-house bass and jazz Now black music is black music and its all good I wasnt salty, she was with the boys in the hood Cause that was good for her, she was becomin well rounded I thought it was dope how she was on that freestyle shit Just havin fun, not worried about anyone And you could tell, by how her titties hung

    Verse three:
    I mightve failed to mention that the shit was creative But once the man got you well he altered the native
    Told her if she got an energetic gimmick
    That she could make money, and she did it like a dummy Now I see her in commercials, shes universal She used to only swing it with the inner-city circle Now she be in the burbs lickin rock and dressin hip And on some dumb shit, when she comes to the city Talkin about poppin glocks servin rocks and hittin switches

    Now shes a gangsta rollin with gangsta bitches
    Always smokin blunts and gettin drunk
    Tellin me sad stories, now she only fucks with the funk Stressin how hardcore and real she is
    She was really the realest, before she got into showbiz I did her, not just to say that I did it But Im committed, but so many niggaz hit it
    That shes just not the same lettin all these groupies do her

    I see niggaz slammin her, and takin her to the sewer But ima take her back hopin that the shit stop Cause who Im talkin bout yall is hip-hop

  • smartestrapperalive

    “Jay’z doesnt seem to be concerned with hip-hop”, is like saying Barack Obama doesnt care about black people. As for caring about what other rappers say about him, look who’s talking shit: Jaz-o and Dame Dash. Both of those mutha fuckaz is washed up and irrelevant where as Oasis is a group that everybody knows worldwide. And the line is “My swagger is Mick Jagger” not “like mick Jagger”, and Ghostface said that already about two years ago, check “Fishscale” if you want to talk about underrated MC’s. And by the way, L’il Boosie is garbage. You couldnt recite a hot line of his. If Kanye doesnt wanna be a rapper, fuck him. Hip-hop was great before him, and it will be fine after his Peter Frampton wannabe ass. Google that shit if you dont know WTF I’m talkin ’bout. BTW anybody tryin to say Run-DMC aint hip hop? I believe their first single was called “King of Rock”, not king of hip-hop.

  • Mic250

    Maybe seeking acceptance from rockers, they are subconsciously seeking acceptance from white people? Maybe that’s digging too deep.

  • JDizzel3000

    You know why niggas is shittin on rap?? it’s because you can’t do shit in rap …talk about a female in anything less than a derogatory fashion and “use a emotional bitch” make a song about some shit other that selling dope and “use on that conscious shit” rap has become to monotonous you get trapped in a box if you a rapper fuck all of that if i was one of these niggas i would be experimenting with other shit as well i mean andre 3000 is one of the dopest artist of all time a legend and as soon as even tried to take a step out of the box with that love below joint all the little hip hopers gave that man shit about it …so fuck it why wait for hiphop on the whole to catch up what you like whats more hiphop than that??