Are the Native Tongues secretly gay?

If it’s true that the biggest homophobes are secretly gay, does that mean the Native Tongues are secretly gay? Or is that theory BS, and the Native Tongues are just the straightest rap group evar?

Hardened ’90s rap stan that I am, of course my hope is that it’s the latter. Regardless, I’m gonna have to declare a state of no homo Juelz Santana on this post.

If you’re at all familiar with the work of the Native Tongues, it seems ridonkulous to think that they could be the most homophobic rap group evar. Back in the day, the Native Tongues were considered one of the more progressive crews in all of hip-hop.

A Tribe Called Quest had that song about how you shouldn’t rape women – a message I could definitely get behind. And they performed at that Tibetan Freedom Concert with the Beastie Boys. And the Jungle Brothers were deep into house music, which was played in clubs where a lot of teh ghey guys hang out.

Like Sarah Palin, I’m at a loss for any further specific examples of how the Native Tongues were all that progressive, and I’m not about to spend the time doing the research. But I think we can agree that, at the very least, they provided an alternative to some of the more ignorant gangster shit of their era.

However, recently, evidence has surfaced to suggest that the Native Tongues could very well be the most homophobic rap group evar.

First of all, a few weeks ago, it was revealed that A Tribe Called Quest once recorded the most homophobic rap song evar.

No, really.

Called “Georgie Porgie,” it was the original version of that song “Show Business.” But the label wouldn’t release it, because it was all about bashing teh ghey guys. It begins with the line, “In the beginning there was Adam and Eve, but some make it look like it was Adam and Steve.” And then it just goes on from there.

And then, the other day, the late, great Noz hipped me to this hilarious video on YouTube where Pharrell, Consoquence, and DJ Premier mock Busta Rhymes for going off about how that one guy from the Jungle Brothers is now a fudge. I guess Pharrell was suggesting Busta quote some Jungle Brothers lyrics in one of his records, and Bussa Bus just went off.

Earlier this year, or maybe last year, it was revealed over on AllHipHop that Afrika Baby Bam from the Jungle Brothers is a fruit and also some sort of a witch. But could it be that he wasn’t the only one of the Native Tongues pretending to be straight?

I was informed, earlier this year, via Twitter, that Busta Rhymes is on the DL, but I wasn’t sure what to make of it. You know how sometimes teh ghey guys like to suggest that ostensibly straight guys bat for the other team.

For example, I remember one time a teh ghey guy, upset with something I’d written for this site, emailed me to inform me that Method Man is, in fact, on the DL. I guess he figured, hardened Wu stan that I am, that would ruin my day. And it kinda did, though I’ve yet to confirm that it’s true.

Just now, I consulted the Google, and damn it if I didn’t turn up a few results about how Busta is on the DL.

Supposedly, Busta used to be with Deelishis, one of the hoes from Flavor of Love, and I guess she had her suspicions. (Busta must have asked for her to stick something in his ass.) So she asked Terrance Dean, author of Hiding in Hip Hop, whether Busta was on the DL, and he replied that it was pretty well known in the down low hip-hop community that Busta swings both ways.

Only thing is, I don’t think either of them said for a fact that it was Busta Rhymes. They just described someone that sounds like it might be him. Hmm…

Finally, you know how close Q-Tip is with Busta Rhymes. Just the other day, the two of them performed together in New York to promote Q-Tip’s forthcoming solo release The Renaissance. And the two of them have been collaborating on songs going back to the days of “Scenario.”

In fact, on another song on The Low End Theory, Q-Tip actually mentions having had a dream about Busta Rhymes. In retrospect, could this have been the dead giveaway? What do you fruits think?

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  • Mikey T

    I think you should stop calling me a FRUIT!


  • Ayre

    I can’t call it. It wouldn’t surprise though if it were true

  • Mikey T

    I also thin that Q-Tip, Busta Rhymes, Afrika Baby Bam, and Method man should kick the step to your fat ass for talking about the sexuality!

    It’s clearly none of your business, Bol.

    The are artists. Let them make music.

    Being a homophobic asshole has nothing to do with real Hip-Hop. Your just showing your ignorance (per usual).

    I think Adrock said it best in “Alive”…

    Now who in the world do you want to fight
    It’s against the system we should unite
    Homophobics ain’t alright
    If you learn to love then you might love life

  • amar

    I’m not sure about bussa bus, but fiddy’s gotta be homo. That dude takes the whole “focused on my business, no time for women” thing to a level where i’ve never even seen him refer to a woman as hot, in interviews or songs.

    Plus when asked about his perfect date, he says just sit on the couch and watch tv? You’re back from a tour, and u have some super hot hoe at your placea nd ur gonna watch tv with her? pft.

    • EReal

      Obviously the same things don’t happen for you that do for me when I hit the couch with a broad.

      • Lancelot

        2nd DAT.

    • Dub Sac

      Um, yeah. Not to sound like I’m defending 50, but on the couch with a movie is pretty ideal in terms of kicking it with a chick. Turn the lights off and get comfortable…

  • og bobby j

    if dudes are the type to have shit-cock….thats on them….shit wayne kissed a dude on the lips and just sold 2.5 milli….maybe these guys are just adjusting whats hot in the streets….

    packing fudge aint my thing….and I really dont wanna know if its anyone elses.

  • dronkmunk

    Yeah, really…who cares? Especially when this whole post is just “He said/She said.” You gossip queen you!

  • Worley

    “Afrika Baby Bam from the Jungle Brothers is a fruit and also some sort of a witch.” Hilarious.

  • that nigga

    In fact, on another song on The Low End Theory, Q-Tip actually mentions having had a dream about Busta Rhymes. In retrospect, could this have been the dead giveaway? What do you fruits think?

    What song Is that? I’ll let you know If them niggas Is Fruits or not. And If you respond to the fruit comment then Bol Is def talkin to you! But that Is some gay shit dreamin of another dude, then to put It out to the public, and In a song? WOW!

    • Bol

      You never heard the Low End Theory?

    • Chris

      The song off that album is ‘Verses From the Abstract’. Now the ‘Low End Theory’ title takes on a whole new meaning.

  • b-ease

    Other gays (nullus, but made industry heads used to come to the station, and they gossip like old women)

    Dame Dash
    B2K (yea its R&B and yea we already knew, but I heard about that Chris Stokes shit in 02).

    Pause on this post.

    • Bol

      Does this mean Method Man and Redman are an item as well as a rap group?

      I quit.

      • Hey

        Haha. You’re so gay dude.

    • dmb

      everybody know about tigger. i barely know who he is and i heard that.

  • capcobra

    don’t forget queen latifah ran around with them too.

    • Bol


  • El Tico Loco

    so i guess the next thing that will be said is that low end theory has a subliminal meaning besides bass.
    I would understand since I think tp on the r kelly joins is not 12 play but teenage pu$$y

  • anutha_level

    no news is good news as far as i’m concerned…i’d rather just enjoy quality hip-hop if/when it presents itself.

  • geico lizard

    king latifah is gay thats the only person you have named that i know is gay for sure. i dont know if tigger is gay but i do know if BET wasnt so cheap they could have kept him on rap city and it wouldnt be getting cancelled right now. Q45,that dj in atlanta who used to work in st louis and mad linx just didnt have it in them to replace big tigger.

    • iLL G

      they didnt have it in them??? man them niggas flat out sucked!!!!

  • c. gabi

    Maybe this went under everybody’s radar but the dude from Native Tongue had some pictures surface of him in like black pleather and makeup.

    I wanted to give the brotha the benefit of the doubt and say he was given the photoshop business or some random ass dude that looked EXACTLY like him had this shit on.

    But, much to my dismay, I was watching VH1′s “100 greatest hip hop songs ever”, and here he was, in all his fagtastic glory defending his picture in DRAG as “well, a lot of folks in europe dress like that, and it was for my fans there. people here really don’t ‘understand’ it.” So, I took that as “I’m gay.” Period. Point blank.

    So, I think that answers your question…they have to be gay. If one is, then the other must be, right? Birds of a feather flock together, no?

    • c. gabi

      my bad, I meant to say dude from Jungle Brothers…

    • Dub Sac

      If one is, then the other must be, right? Birds of a feather flock together, no?

      How far are you are you willing to extend that logic? So IF Meth is gay, all of Wu-Tang must be gay? And if the dude from JB is gay, everyone from Native Tongues must be also? What about guest appearances and collabos? Six degrees of separation, and everyone’s pretty much implicated. And what about you if you’ve been listening to their music?

  • b-ease

    Wow, my post outing Meth (pause) got deleted? Why?

  • Bang

    Yeah homophobia is definately hip hop

    (no homo)

  • Moi

    You know how sometimes teh ghey guys like to suggest that ostensibly straight guys bat for the other team

    you must know that this was in there, right? or does your no homo apply here?

    it’s okay, you hardened 90s rap stan. we all know that guys who think about guys with guys are thinking about guys with guys.


    Disturbing is Bol’s obsession with wanting to out rappers… In the interest of “keeping it real,” I could see why you would want them to be truthful. On the other hand, I’d rather believe that these guys were actually tagging all the pussy they’ve bragged about over the years instead of the contrary, which is an utterly horrid notion… I’m not homophobic, but that doesn’t mean I’m not disgusted by it.

    Oh yeah: Bol? You’re prolly gay…

  • Dr Flav

    That Georgy Porgy song was SUPER RAW! I haven’t heard it since 92 and got jacked for my copy. Brand Nubian’s verses were venomous, made you want to sock a homo, no lie! Lol! Tip outed Sherman Hemsley on it i.e. Georgy Porgy. Suddenly George J. flamboyant suits made since. Been on a good blog run for while Fruit Bol.

    • Bol

      Wait, George Jefferson was on the DL?

      I don’t know how much more of this I can take.

  • Enlightened

    I was a big Quest fan so I always wanted to deny it but there’s one thing that y’all are not mentioning: Q-Tip at times has acted a little feminine. Damn, I hated to even type that. That’s my dude. But come on, did y’all see Prison Song?

  • bgz

    Fuck talkin about gayness.
    I’m not gay and if it wasn’t for the media, i wouldn’t even be thinkin of manlove.
    I personally don’t see any gayness in Meth or Busta Rhymes (despite his flamboyant cloths). Mos Def and Q-Tip’s smile does make me feel unconfortable, tho (even if I like their music). Andre 3k’s more masculine than that.
    And for the record, I wouldn’t like Beanie Sig’s cellmate, either.

  • abdulnasir imam

    God i love ur column (no homo)

  • Iwannafightbol

    YOu talk about the most homophobic cats sometimes turn out to be gay! This is the 2nd post i found today about “outting” rappers. My question…why r u so obsessed with this subject…hmmmmmmmmm

  • Swola Jesus

    Bol, you are such a closet case.

  • Thoro T

    what the fuck is ‘teh ghey guys’?! Is that you being completely illiterate or you speaking in code? Sizzla, Capleton, Buju and basically every ragga artists make lots of songs dedicated to murdering gays. Does that make them closet cases?? Or is it cos they come from a place where the culture is embedded in Christian fuckery with most emphasis being on indesirables quoting sections of Genesis with the fire and brimstone Sodom and Gomorrah wacky revelations? You do know that Busta is from that same background also, so figures the same. Q Tip is muslim and we all know how Islam feels about homosexuality, and any monotheistic faith for that matter. I don’t have a problem personally with gays, but at the same time, stop that cliche comment where its overly stated.. “If you have such a problem with it, then you must be it secretly”… Yawn! Its a half truth, and half truths are as good as half lies… Non accurate bollocks!