Michael Jordan (Wizards) > Jay-Z Circa 2008

Remember how Hov used to refer to himself as the “Mike Jordan of rap?”

Around the time The Black Album dropped, I remember Hov saying he retired because he wanted to go out on top. One of the reasons he cited was that he was a big Michael Jordan fan and was disappointed when Mike came back with the Wizards. Let’s face it, Mike is still the G.O.A.T. There’s no way dude would have let anybody handcuff him for an entire series like Kobe did. But, that brief stint with the Wizards definitely tarnished his legacy. Basically, we wish Mike hadn’t come back. We were content with his six rings, five league MVPs, six final MVPs, ten scoring titles and countless jaw-dropping highlights. And we were content that Mike ended his career in classic air fashion with a clutch jumper to put the Utah Jazz away.

Well, you know what? I’m starting to wish Hov hadn’t come back. Dude can’t even run with the to dudes no more. I mean, listen to “Swag Like Us” and tell me any different. Matching up Jay with three of the dopest MCs in hip-hop, the song just exposes him for being a deteriorated MC. His lyrics actually haven’t been too atrocious, but the main thing Hov lost during his three-year retirement is the “it” factor. He’s just not that dude anymore. Listen to “Ignorant Shit” off American Gangster, a song he recorded during The Black Album era. Off course, AG had a few good joints on there, but his vocal performance on “Ignorant Shit” is just superior. It’s the way he pronounces words, the cadence, the swag, everything. It sounds easy. It’s just effortless. Cool, he had a few cute lines on Jeezy’s “Put On” remix, but don’t tell me that delivery was effortless. The God Emcee man is flowing on crutches nowadays.

So much for him being disappointed in Mike. Hov, we’re disappointed in you. At least those of us who aren’t giving him a pass just because he’s Jay-Z. His addiction to the spotlight is apparently grave enough that he’s willing to tarnish your legacy by barely keeping up with rappers who idolized him in his prime. I wish Dame Dash was still around. He wouldn’t have let him put out all that mediocre stuff. We were fine with The Black Album being the last album. We could always go back to listening to Reasonable Doubt, the In My Lifetime series and the first Blueprint. A third Blueprint installment just isn’t necessary. And if “Jocking Jay-Z” is any indication of things to come, the music isn’t getting any better.

At this point, Jay has damaged his legacy worse than MJ. I still enjoyed Mike contend for the MVP in his last All-Star game, but I don’t like Jay embarrassing himself with every new verse. Hopefully, he’ll read this, take a page from MJ’s book and cook up a classic album to shut me and other skeptics up.

  • these posts are racist

    This is just ridiculous. His post-Black Album music has been hot, of course not all of it, but not all of his pre-Black album music was hot. His flow on and lyrics on his most recent appearances are hot as well.

    That said, what are you talking about “legacy”? If he likes making music, he should continue to do so. If Jay fans only want to remember him for his music from Black Album and back, then don’t listen to his new stuff for the sake of keeping his “legacy” in tact.

    • yo

      NIGGAS DONT APPRECIATE LYRICAL SKILLS THESE DAYS…FUCK A SWAG. JAYS WORST IS STILL BETTER THAN ALL THESE CORNY NIGGA’S BEST.

      • yo

        AND KOBE FROZE UP IN THE FINALS…NOT THE MARK OF A CHAMPION. WHILE MJ USED TO MAKE IT RAIN LIKE BAD WEATHER IN HIS PRIME AND HE WAS STILL BREAKING NIGGAS WHILE ON THE WIZARDS.

        • Dinero

          Watt tha fucc did Kobe have to do with this (besides tha fact tha MJ of Wizards was easily contained by Kobe “Mamba” Bryant)…. almost 2 years from today, he has 2 more rings and ur still a bitch ass hater…. hate like urs is disrespectful to the game in which Kobe is 1 ring short of Mike (with 3 more years of gr8ness left), Kobe is easily top 5 of all time and u can ask Mike, hell anybody that knows basketball could tell u that….. So continue to hate, he will continue to win, succah… Btw, Hov’s guest appearances in his retirement era were much doper than watt he has been up 2 lately not saying that I dont own all of Hov’s post Blacc Album but I’m still listenin to old shit more often tha BP3..

      • who

        ANYBODY WHO THINKS KOBE IS BETTER THAN JORDAN CHECK THE STATS JORDAN IS G.O.A.T SIX RINGS AND KOBE CANT DO SHIT WITHOUT SHAQ

      • Tony Grand$

        Hip hop is so fly by night, that if a nigga comes out with more than one decent selling album, that’s considered longevity. Two good albums in one year is looked @ as an achievement. Now put that into the perspective that hip hop is, after all, a form of music, and really two good albums aint shit in the grand scheme of things. The whole focal point of a legacy is the quality AND quantity of the bodies of work. JiggaMan aint the new kid on the block anymore, and I wouldn’t say he’s like fine wine (it gets better with age), but technically the more music he leaves us when he really does retire, is the more validity put into his “legacy”. He doesn’t have to compete with these young boys, and I think he knows that, it sorta sounds like he knows it nowadays. Just the fact that he’s on your shit says a lot about the character of that artist. In so many words, he is the Michael Jordan of rap, who the fuck wouldn’t want MJ on their team in a pick up game @ Venice Beach (Yay yayee!)? Might not be able to keep up with the ever-changing pups in the kennel, but always a respected big dog. Jay Z is Jay Z. He is hip hop. It would most certainly be career suicide if he tries to change so late in the game. Take any cat who’s been around as long, if not longer than him and never garned that crown that he holds. They would prolly decapitate their pitbulls to be where he is, who he is.Play on playa!

    • The Spaniard

      “His lyrics actually haven’t been too atrocious”

      Of course they haven’t.

      “but the main thing Hov lost during his three-year retirement is the “it” factor.”

      Pop music fans ALWAYS want new fads.

      “I wish Dame Dash was still around. He wouldn’t have let him put out all that mediocre stuff.”

      Dame Dash? Okay…

      And for the records MJ was 38-39 years old getting 20-5-5.

      Stop living your fantasies through other men.

      Jordan was just fine.

    • http://hiphoponmymind.blogspot.com DJ Daddy Mack

      ON THE REAL, IF YOU ASK ME, I THINK JAY IS DOING HIS THING. I LIKE JOCKING JAY-Z AND SWAGGER LIKE US AND IM THE BIGGERST JAY-Z HATER IN THE WHOLE WORLD. SHOOT, BP3 MIGHT BE THE FIRST JAY ALBUM I GET.

      • Rob The Music Ed

        SMH..
        “Jockin’ Jay-Z” is lackluster.. and “Swagger Like Us” is a better idea than it is an actual song.

        Young Jeezy’s “Circulate” > Jay-Z’s “Jockin’ Jay-Z” BY FAR!

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    • Trobin337

      Disappointed in Jay?? What?? This column is ridiculous, Jay career speaks volumes…aint nobody went as hard as this dude for x amount of years. If he back out then who we stuck wit? Its a few out there that can hold it down for a minute but wit out Jay im damn near straight on mainstream hip hop. “Cant leave rap alone the game needs me” that sum it up right there. This dude does this shit for his fans now, he has nothin left to prove, like Mike he coulda sat on the END of the bench in Washington and still be considered the G.O.A.T. Jay so smart, dude buying/investing in all kinda shit he DAMN sho aint doin this shit for the money…I wouldnt be surprised if he payed yall to publish some shit like this to see what kind of post the column got…prolly some kind of marketing tool for BP3. Kingdom Come was garbage?? American Gangster was garbage?? Mafuckas crazy…and he went in on that Put On remix mockin that T-Pain shit let somebody else do that shit it aint gone nearly be as hot. And he really went in on that Swagger like us…”You can pay for school, but you cant buy class” this nigga in over yal head thas all…This dude does tracks wit Lincoln Park and bones Beyonce…BP3-HOV G.O.A.T.

  • giantstepp

    I have to disagree with you. Kingdom Come was garbage, but IMO, everything Jay has touched since then has been on point. American Gangsta was fire, right up to the verses he has out now w/Jeezy and Weezy remix joints! Hov still the God EmCee…

  • UNCLE SAM

    1st

    and yea i think Hova should have stayed retired.

  • John Brown

    Even if Jay does cook up a classic album to shut you and other skeptics up, yall wont shut up. The man is in a lose-lose situation. I dont get it half 75% thats on the radio is shit, yall argue bout it. Jay isnt in his prime but most rappers cant make music in their prime like Jay does now-a-days.

  • Pierzy

    Wow, I can’t believe that people don’t realize just how great “American Gangster” is – that album blew me way.

    Then again, even when Jordan put up 40 when he was in Washington, people said it just wasn’t the same…

    • Pierzy

      Do we sit here and say Paul McCartney is ruining his Beatles legacy by putting out CDs only in Starbucks? Not really…

      • http://xxl.co.uk SCRAPZ

        Pierzy

        U say dat stuff bout paul mcCartney puttin out new cds, but we cant say if he is or he aint ruining his Beatles legacy because we neva did listen to his music bak in da day and his music now so we cant really judge his music.

        I fink dat dis blog is partly rite in da way dat Jays music is not as gud as it was bak in da day. but ting it say bout tarnished his career iz a bit much 2 say because he aint dun puttin out his new shit which cud get betta.

        Jay need 2 stop spittin bout his swagger cos aint nobody wanna dat shit, and start spittin dat real shit.

        P.S. dat jockin jay Z beat sik, but his barz shud been betta.

        • Pierzy

          Speak for yourself when you say you don’t know anything about The Beatles. They’re one of the most influential bands in music history, so I’m well aware of them. However, there’s no shot of him ruining his “legacy” because that’s not what it’s all about – it’s just about making music and putting it out there for the public.

        • http://xxl.co.uk SCRAPZ

          I’m not sayin i dont kno who da beatles R, im sayin dat i neva listen to dere music so I cant say if dey R beta now den way bak. He’s got a “legacy” dat was about making GOOD music dat alot of his fans lyked, but now his music aint as gud as it was before he said he retired and im sure dat sum of his fans can tell dat in da barz hes spittin now.

          And so ppl may question if he was 1 of da best MC because he wasnt consistent throw out his career. And his last 2 albums werent dat gud ppl are sayin.

          And da best MCs of all tym may hav had 1 or 2 songs on a dey albums dat werent gud but da albums overall was gud throwout dere career.

    • dubbzz

      Man..my sentiments EXACTLY! People act like American Gangster was a bad album….HA! That shit had nothing but bangers. And to reply to this blog, man…you have to be kidding me right? I think we have someone who just doesnt like Jay, which is fine, but to question if his legacy is tarnished…HA!

    • freakyfiikkii

      Co-sign… AG was the shit.
      Point blank, HOV is not being challenged like MJ in Washingtion. Let’s look at HOV and MJ’s past and present opponents and see for yourself.

      MJ vs. Bird/HOV vs. Eminem: The white boys had flow and delivery, but couldn’t slam dunk in the game like MJ and HOV.

      MJ vs. Clyde Drexler/HOV vs. Rakim: Both Rakim and Clyde had a nice old school game, but MJ and HOV took it to another level in which people are still jockin’; no pun intended.

      MJ vs. Charles Barkley/HOV vs. Biggie: They were thick as theives, boys, friends, homie. Barkley and Biggie made it to the Finals but could bring home the title (or keep it long enough)

      MJ vs. Allen Iverson/HOV vs.NAS: Both AI (crossed up MJ and banged the three)and NAS (Ether)got in the ass once, but HOV and MJ still came out victorious and champions.

      MJ vs Kobe/HOV vs. Lil Wayne: Kobe wants to be like MJ and Weezy wants to be like HOV, how can you compete against your baby brother. nuff said ya dig

      • Oneofthemyo’s

        Nigga the shit u said was all good with me,TILL u compared biggie 2 charles barkley, barkley a legend top 50 greatest with no rings, Biggie was king of new york offically by 24 ask Jay that nigga still chasing B.I.G.

        As far as the nas and A.I. thing no one considers the answer better than jordan not so with nas and jay but thats arguable though to me jay fucked his baby mom’s and had the nigga working for him so… But other than that your list makes a lotta sense.

        • freakyfiikkii

          Thanks dawg for seeing my vision. I had a hard time with that Biggie/Barkley analogy, but on the cool, they were the king of their position, but MJ and HOV were/are the king of the game

      • King B

        What the fuck??? you put Jay over RAKIM THE MC GOD??????? Are you fucking serious???? HELL NO!!! Nobody had or will have lyrics like Rakim point blank period

  • http://myspace.com/thetruthandthelight Mo Betta

    I did enjoy the AG album as well as most of Kingdom Come tho it doesn’t get as much play as other HOV albums…I do see where you are going I don’t like his verse on alot of new stuff there are lines here and there but the delivery aint right he still grabs you with the swag had me excited before he even spit on the I PUT ON rmx…I don’t like the SWAG like us verse at all except the “CLASS” line…but thats reaching only enjoying a line or 2…he killed MR. CARTER but only cause he had to silence nay-sayers maybe this article will give him the drive to silence us for doubting him now he still can do it I believe he just hasn’t been maybe he should take the GAME up on his challenge and spar a few rounds to sharpen his skills tho Im sure GAME has songs already done. Oh and JOCKIN JAY-Z is not good at all.

  • Pierzy

    One more thing – Since he signed that deal with Live Nation, he has two more albums that he HAS to complete for Def Jam (one of which will probably be a Greatest Hits album) before he can officially work with Live Nation so that’s why he’s doing BP3.

  • http://blockishot.com kirk

    I want jay to take his coat off like all the rest of his fans but i can definitely appreciate this post. I was not very impressed at my first listen to swagger like us(songs great but I expected more) and jockin jay-z is Jay doing what he does but at the sametime the best rapper alive shouldn’t be competing he should be setting the standard. Peace.

  • http://www.getitgirlmzfe.com Mz Fe

    Hov needs to resort to what TI said he had to do on “Paper Trail”..go buy a notebook!!..The ability to freestyle is cool but the mediocre/wack sh*t is not filtered out and they put it out on cd and boast about they didn’t write nothing..well, maybe ya shoulda!!

  • http://www.theunderwriters.blogspot.com THE UNDERWRITER

    Yeah, I can’t take that “Jockin Jay-Z” shit. Funny how everybody from NY spazzed when Jay and Kanye took the stage to introduce the song. Everybody was like, “Jay’s back!! Blueprint 3!! He’s about to put Lil’ Wayne in his place!! Yay!!”

    But once you’ve listened to the song twice, you realize that it is a good idea gone bad because Jay just didn’t want to spit it like he used to.

    Kanye is jeopardizing his status in the game right now by attaching himself to this project. This is what you call polishing the brass on the Titanic.

  • SW PHILLY

    I guess if Biggie had still been livin we might have been sayin the same about him too huh? Well like BIG said “They love ya then hate ya then that love comes back around”. I would like to see Jay-Z come back, to hell wit Hov. Those who’ve followed his career know what I’m sayin. U can even tell the change in his voice. Too laid back and too much of that “Look how much I got swagger”. By the way IMO, BIG had that one thing that Jay doesn’t have that makes him the greatest, the ability to get gutter/ grimey when need be.Like “Gimme the Loot” or the orginal verse to”The What”…… “Hurry up and close the gate/I’m givin young minds stagatory rape”

  • http://www.incilin.blogspot.com Incilin

    If you had said this right after Kingdom Come I would have agreed with you to the fullest. But now after AG, it just aint true. AG was one of the best albums of that year. It was certainly better than, say, TI’s last joint, even with all that “swagger” in tact for Mr. Harris.

    And even when he’s running with dudes like Jeezy and Kanye, let’s face it, them dudes can never rap on the same level as Jay, even this “deteriorated” version of Jay. Kanye and Jeezy have their own lanes, but we all know they can’t rap like a Jay, a Nas, Eminem, Biggie, Rakim, etc.

    A lot of this is owned to the current state of the game; where having swag is more important than having umm… lyrics? It’s like younger people need an excuse to like sub-par rappers and explain why they don’t respect legends like Jay.

    Plus people stay forgetting that before Black was Blueprint 2 which was prolly the worst record of his career (next to Kingdom Come). What? The album was awful, but what? Oh yeah, he still had his swag then. Right?

    • Pierzy

      Co-Sign everything you just wrote…

      • duubbzz

        2nd that co sign

        • WhereIsSaigon!?

          co-sign

    • yoprince

      I hear you and I’m a Jay fan but damn, Jay-z right now with his most recent shit (not AG) including Jockin JAy-Z and his recent verses he himself can’t compare to the likes of Nas, Eminem, Biggie, Rakim etc..

      jay is relyin’ on swag right now just as much as Jeezy and Kanye..

      and BP 2 might not have been great but he was still spittin on there, technically he was straight.. right now, his flow is off, delivery is weak, lyrics aren’t so bad, but nothin amazin.

      i don’t think he’s ruining his legacy tho. i don’t believe in that..

  • ONE

    COME ON STOP IT, WHAT DO A GREAT INDIVIDUAL LIKE HOV OWE YOU. CLASSIC AFTER CLASSIC TOP FIVE DEAD OR ALIVE RIGHT NOW, TRENDSETTER YO THE LIST IS ENDLESS. WHO EVER WROTE THAT NEED TO CUT IT OUT FOR REAL AND FIND ANOTHER LINE OF WORK. YOU CAN’T GIVE ME FIVE BETTER RIGHT NOW THAT WILL KEEP HOV OUT OF TOP FIVE DISCUSSION, AND I MEAN FIVE LIGITIMATE CONTENDERS NO BULLSHIT MC’S THAT ARE OVERNIGHT CELEBRITIES

  • Young Saint Louis

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  • Young STL

    ay yall

  • Mikey T

    Lame. Jay Hova is still the best in the game. Hands down.

  • Og bobby J

    I co sign this article completely…..AG was ok….just OK…..Kingdome Come is trash….purely.

    He has had some decents cameos…but nothing stellar IMO. BLack album was pure fire….should have left right then and there

  • http://www.jacquesmorel.blogspot.com Joshua

    Something I just found from http://www.jacquesmorel.com

    I was on XXL mag this morning perusing the stories like I do on a daily basis. I read an interesting post discussing how Jay Z is ruining his legacy by coming out with more articles after saying he would retire.

    Read the article here.

    Although what he said made perfect sense, I do not think that he is tarnishing his legacy. He recalls examples from Jordan which made people dislike the fact that he was back. When Jordan came onto the Wizards, he was a disappointment and he was obviously trying to sell tickets to a team he had ownership in.

    Essentially Jay can be seen doing the same thing. Jay Z runs Def Jam. Hip Hop sales as whole are down. Miley Cryus has sold better than all but 3 artists that have come out with CD’s this year. Hip Hop is full of one hit wonders. Come out, stir some hype up, die down, get your chain snatched.

    Jay Z makes more money when Def Jam makes more money. So, if Jay Z is “The Michael Jordan of Rap” he will sell no matter what happens…correct? Michael still has tons of black people that line up outside of Footlocker with their welfare work checks ready to be signed away for cheap pieces of leather. This is what has befallen us. this is what we are forced to deal with and listen too. This is why Jay Z is coming out with the Blueprint 3.

    To make money.

    I

  • Mikey T

    and the verse on “Falling” was on fire!

    Bunch of used too’s, has been’s bragging bad ’bout all the new dudes
    Talking tough on the YouTube ’bout what you used to do
    But that’s old school to the new crew
    They’re doing numbers like Sudoku
    They’re the new you
    And its damn near inevitable they’ll experience deja vu too
    Fight, and you’ll never survive
    Run, and you’ll never escape
    So just fall from grace, damn….

  • k.o. da killa

    are you serious he is not on top… that s.l.u joint showed how the hottest emcees is almost up there with him but not there.. he still being the realest… on jockin jay-z i had non jay-z fans coming up to me like “did you hear that new jigga song” he making believers but just how people think kobe better then mike society is full of simple minded people

  • http://myspace.com/dolladascholar dolla

    wat r u saying? jay’s verse was better on maybach music and mr. carter, he went in on the put on, he had the 2nd best verse on the swagger like us, the american gangster he spit on every song, the jockin’ jay-z is lukewarm but he still spit. If anything his flows are the same, but the lyricism is still there too

  • Prince Ceasar

    Jay-Z fell off like a bad bag of dope. He’s never been the G.O.A.T…Nas is the greatest. Let’s Go!

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  • http://www.nerditry.com nerditry

    Because people are tired of Jay’s near-40 ass rapping about shit he hasn’t done in a decade in regard to the drug game or popping off at cops.

    Who is excited for a guy that has a great flow, but all he can deliver are endless bars about his favorite brands of luxury goods none of our asses can afford? I’m tired of it and AG was more of the same shit, just packaged into movie form.

    You ain’t Tony Montana no more, Shawn, but you also ain’t no Gordon Gekko.

    • true story

      please, please, please everyone stop saying that jay-z is almost 40…he is WAY over that…he really was 36 ( as nas pointed out) when nas dropped ether…jay-z is 43 years old…true story…i personally don’t want to hear a 43 year old damn near BILLIONAIRE talking about all the loot he has unless he’s putting something on my gas tank–period

      not a wayne fan…but i’ve gotta admit the obvious:

      1. jockin jayz beat is a rip off of the a milli beat
      2. jockin jayz flow is a rip off of waynes flow
      3. blueprint 3 album title is a rip off of carter 3 album title…

      and before all you old heads start talkin shit—i’m 29 years old ( 30 in a month)…and i was there from the beginning when jayz first ripped off jazz’ flow on “hawaian sophie” and then 10 years later when he ripped off all of b.i.g.’s everything back in 97…yeah i know wayne based his flow off jay (hell waynes old flow was based off B.G. ) but the fact is that wayne flipped it and made it his own ( again i’m not a wayne fan, but i respect him)…and the reality is that jay is biting wayne now…jay is even dressing like wayne/pharrel/clipse these days–

      and for the record NOBODY liked jay’s 2nd and third albums, we all been pissed since he went pop after resonable doubt…he didn’t really come back until blueprint 1…when in my lifetime and the dynasty and all that shit came out we were all like wtf? we liked it over time cuz it was still the best shit out (since big and pac had just died) but everybidy on here over a certain age knows jay has ALWAYS been an opportunist and an egomaniac more than a musician concerned about making classics

      hey…it is what it is…

  • http://www.myspace.com/lokixximo Roc Boyz

    Why rock artists perform & drop albums until they 70-80 years old?, we need a legend like Jay z to set an example of what real artists that love the art of making music supposed to do, Jay Z keep making that good music, every album is a movie and we should appreciate each project like white people appreciate the Beatles & Johnny Cash, tell me another Rapper with more power than Jay Z in the Game right now?…………………?

    I’m still here.

    The God MC = Jay Hova.

  • Toss

    I heard he did a song named “Most Kings” and I keep hearing how crazy it is. I can’t wait to hear it. he needs to drop some real heat..

  • SW PHILLY

    “Hurry up and close the gates/before my freestyle escapes/ I’m givin’ young minds stagatory rape.”- “The What” original version. Had to type that shit again, BIG was sick!!

  • cee

    u sound wild foolish n ignorant in dis whole article…u eally think he fell dat far den u buggin cuz KC was still 1 of da best albums of 06 n AG was damn near classic even jockin jay-z is hot it reminds me of hola hovito n his guest verses are incredible…i.e. mr. carter not to mention how he murdered jeezy on his own shit n he still manage to steal all the attention from ye weezy n tip on 1 track hes still da best in da game bar none name 1 artist more consistent from 96-08…ooops u cant nas i think not,luda nope,only ppl who been under him is kanye tip weezy n game!

  • tommy boy

    Your retarded man! I agree his later albums are somewhat lack luster,But still a savage MC! Only reason your even writing this is because chessy superman rap is taking over the popular demand in Rap..so sad!

  • Shugg

    Blah Blah Blah…American Gangster was Great!

  • J ATL

    This crazy!!!! Have you heard Jay verse on Swag like us? He ripped it. He had the best verse on the song and the hottest line on the song. “I cant teach you my swag, you can pay for school but you can’t buy class.” That is classic Jay-Z. that is probably the one of the hottest lines of the year. American Gangster was one of the hottest ablums of 07″. This article is just crazy!!

  • A

    YO, IM NOT A BIG HOV FAN. I ESPECIALLY LOST TOUCH WHEN NAS HAD TO EAT HIM. BUT HONESTLY, HOV’S WEAKEST SHIT IS BY FAR HOTTER THAN MOST MATERIAL THAT CATS ARE SITTIN IN #1 BILLBOARD SPOTS WITH TO THIS DAY. HOV COULD PROBABLY RAP FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE AND WHAT SOME CONSIDER HOT WOULDN’T COME CLOSE TO JAY’S MUSIC. HE MIGHT STILL TALK ABOUT MATERIALISTIC SHIT BUT THAT’S WHAT HE’S BEEN DOING AND THAT’S WHAT EVERYBODY’S DOING NOW.

  • Certified DanC

    co sign that shit nerditry

  • Detroit P

    “Do You Fools Listen to music or do you just skim thru it!”

    You sound like a Damn Fool to me….first of all Jay Z been puttin out Great and not so great shit before Black Album(but for the most part its been great)…so how is now any different…fuckin Shock Bloggers…I wouldn’t comment if I didn’t kno that its sheep out there that’ll tag along and just agree with you cus they’ve taken the stance of not liking JayZfor dumb reasons like “he’s overrated” or “he’s overhyped” without ever really listenin to his music…they’re just such sheep that they don’t wanna feel like sheep by liking something alot of other people like..

    And who the fuck cares what you think about a “legacy”(like what tpar said)..If an ARTIST likes making his ART he should stop cus some fuckin faggot thinks it’ll “tarnish his legacy”?…Micheal Jordan Loves playing basketball. he should stop because it’ll “tarnish his legacy”?..DO you think they worked that hard to get where they are to not be able to do what they love because “it’ll tarnish some legacy” that you had wet dreams about…What they do now takes no amount of greatness away from what they did in the past…Jordan still hit that buzzer beater..reasonable doubt is still a classic…if you dont like the new stuff then dont worry about it

    I dont hear you talking about Muhhamad Ali “tarnishing his legacy”….yall niggas only crucify Michael Jordan and JayZ…but when the niggas die..I bet it wont be none of this tarnished legacy shit…SMH..please stop blogging you’re “tarnishing your reputation”

  • JDizzel3000

    Only hov could get a nigga to write an entire blog about one of his few “so-so” verses(which by the way is still better than 95% of these other rap cats)

    Sweeeeeeeeet..

  • Bricks

    The Kingdom come album was wack, But American Gangser was A classic, Ever verse NOW!!!!!!!!! he saying some sh*t. What do you do lesson to music or you skim through it. The verse on Swag like us he killed it, ” dont wear skinnie jeans cause my nuts to big” Jay say sh*t that you dont get at frist then one day it just hits you.

  • http://xxl Charlie Mack

    Wow! This is some real funny Sh**. Radio music has tarnished so many listeners to the point that they think these mediocre rappers on top of Jay!. If you guys only new how hard it is to be on top for so many years with so many number one albums, with so many trends, Man Please!. The GOAT! Plus ran a record company and signed Jeezy, Fab, Nas, Rick Ross, Neyo, Rianna. LOL. Name anyone in the game that can even remotely come close to this mans accomplishements. Plus still have the haters waiting on the Blue Print 3. Like i said before and will say again. The Goat Hands down!.

  • Fuck U

    man fuck this blog, jay-z is the most successful rapper in the game and his new shits fire, dat jockin jay-z song is the hottest shit in new york rite now!!!! real talk. so fuck a hater, dont get mad cuz jay-z gets the slack he deserves.

  • BX POSTER CHILD

    KNIGDOM COME WAS WACK, BUT AMERICAN GANSGTER WAS THE TRUTH. BLOG IS STUPID. AT LEAST JAY-Z AINT GET EMBARRESSED BYT THE PEOPLE THAT IDOLIZED HIM. I MEAN JORDAN WIT THE WIZARDS GOT LIT UP BY EVERYBODY INCLUDING KOBE WHEN HE DROPPED 55 POINTS ON HIM. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYBODY IN RAP 2DAY, ESP. THE RAPPERS WHO JOCKIN HIM EMBARRASS HIM ON A TRACK? DIDNT THINK SO

    • real talk

      I fully cosign the above post.

  • t

    yea he’s still dope for sure. for sure still top ten in the game. this is a retarded post. his verse on ‘swag like us’ was kinda boring though.

  • Avenger XL

    XXL ya’ll suck, we officially have a love hate relationship. you all we got besides random blogs and ghetto ass rap gossip sites but damn these guys on your staff must be some trend loving dumbasses for real.

    Look if rap is to ever be considered a real respectable medium there artists must be able to have careers past 35. Does that mean we need to hear a 40 year old talking about shaking they old ass in a club or R kellying the hot young college grad No that ain’t it. If a “artist” has something viable to say at any point in life they should be able to say it. What a man does in their later catalog should not reflect there earliest work because they are kids or young adults. So if you are a student of hip-hop you know Reasonable doubt,Blue print and black album where his greatest pieces of work. In my life time was his greatest mainstream piece of work everything else has had more great moments than bad but they haven’t been as solid. So Jay-Z has been mega successful but spotty at times.

    Now if he is going to keep doing the same old I sold drugs. D boy to the boardroom blah blah blah blah then he needs to stay gone to avoid throwing salt on his legacy but in all honesty he won’t hurt his legacy too bad because fools are so wack now a days that if jigga farts on a track it sounds like a classic compared to the remainder of contemparay artists.

    That being said if he wants to continue cool just use your platform and be a real artists as not to ruin it for all aging rappers. But if he continues to milk it just to get paper like he is currently doing he will just look like the old douche bag talking bout he still got it.

  • d. b. cooper

    American Gangster was a bad album. Kingdom Come = The Phantom Menace, American Gangster = Attack of the Clones. So American Gangster improved a little on the garbage that was Kingdom Come. It only looks good with lowered expectations. Jockin Jay-Z is one of the worst rap songs ever made, the post was so on point. Jay stans are pathetic.

  • http://www.dragwroteit.blogspot.com DRAG

    Nobody even put their name on this. Who wrote it? Jaymakes better songs then a lot of the other bullshit thats out right now. You don’t hear people complaining about The Rolling Stones making another album and they are like a thousand years old. And at least if your gonna compare…compare apples to apples i.e. rappers 2 rappers. Jay-Z > Yung Berg…Jay-Z > LL Cool J…Jay-Z > Boosie…the list goes on.

    DRAG

    dragwroteit.blogspot.com
    myspace.com/pendragon

  • http://www.myspace.com/kidpistol Kid Pistol

    Haha, some of you are just plain retarded. His legacy is deteriorating????!? This guy has been the top earning MC for the past few years, except this year he was number two. Jay plans on releasing a franchise of hotels. Come on. People love to hate. American gangster wasn’t bad. People know that Jay made American Gangster much more quick than usual, so people started saying that he was just throwing out garbage real quick. Also, I can reasonably argue about the Kobe comment, I think a 1 on 1 game between Kobe and MJ in both of their primes would have been a pretty damn close game.

    • Pierzy

      And even after his Wizards stint, Jordan still has the all-time lead for points per game and Kobe is 12th.

      1.Michael Jordan 30.12
      2.Wilt Chamberlain 30.07
      3.Allen Iverson 27.73
      4.Elgin Baylor 27.36
      5.LeBron James 27.34
      6.Jerry West 27.03
      7.Bob Pettit 26.36
      8.Oscar Robertson 25.68
      9.Shaquille O’Neal 25.23
      10.George Gervin 25.09
      11.Karl Malone 25.02
      12.Kobe Bryant 24.96

  • Teddy

    massive jay fan but totally agree thought it was just me i didnt dig american gangster and ignorant shit was easily best track on it the verse on put on is kinda wack and even the verse on a millie is meh peep my post from the swagger like us post i said the same shit

    pointgodkg14 -
    i repeat

    1.T.I.
    2.Weezy
    3.Kanye
    4.Jay-Z

    no way man t.i. ripped it best verse lyrically and flow, kanye was lyrically more clever than jay easy the shit he is sayin is clever n style as well man and then weezy was also clever and had sweet flow jus autotune wrecks it jay was nice to dont get me wrong but out of all of them he was to laid back there was nothing to clever said flow was nice but compared to everyone elses efforts jays verse was not vicious enough jay can be way more vicious ie. jay-z – it’s like that jay-z – lalala jay-z – hovi baby remix

    he shoulda come with that vicious not the blue magic type verses

    • pointgodkg14

      stop comparing old jay-z to new jay-z…he ripped slu but ur penalizing him cuz back in the day he would have ripped it better lmao
      could u plz tell me who’s last 2 albums were better than kingdom come and american gangster
      and could u plz tell me what were da weak tracks from those two albums then picture ur fav rappers spittin it and then tell me u wouldnt think it was hot for dem…but unacceptable by jay-z standars..its funny to me when the only person left for pplz to compare u to is urself

  • Michael

    Jay-Z has reached Tupac status where no matter what he does people love it and gloss over the bad.

    Kingdom Come flat out sucked. American gangster was dope a 4 star album imo, but his guest apearences have sucked and Jockin Jay-Z is “I Know what girls Like” bad.

  • Michael

    Look nothing Jay does will or should ruin his legacy, but this crap about him being the best is bs. People make it seem like he’s released nothing but classics.

    Reasonable Doubt- 5 stars

    Volume 1-3 1/2 stars This is by far his most overated album, there are flat out horrible songs on this album ie: “I Know What girls Like”, “Sunshine”, The City Is Mine etc..

    Volume 2- 3 1/2 stars

    Volume 3- 3 1/2 stars

    Dynasty Album- 2 1/2 stars

    The Blueprint- 5 stars

    The Blueprint 2- 2 stars

    Black Album- 4 stars

    Kingdom come- 3 stars

    American Gangster- 4 stars.

    • Josh

      Wow. I actually agree with the post for the most part, but this dude above is buggin’ with his ratings.

      First of all, not everything post-Black Album has been wack. It just hasn’t been that good for Jay. It’s really just mediocre for the most part. He can continue making music all he wants – I’m not saying he should re-retire. I just don’t have to like it.

      I wouldn’t say he lost his swag, because who cares about swag? He does, however, sound bored when he rhymes. Kinda like he didn’t put a whole lot of thought into it. You can still say Jay is better than 90% of the game right now, but the game is wack, so that’s not saying much.

      Jay’s albums have always took time to grow on me. I wasn’t crazy about Vol 1 when it came out, but that shit is a classic. He took the shit that Puff was doing and perfected it. Black Album is a classic too. And Dynasty is pretty damn good – not 2 1/2 stars. It was much better than Kingdom Come and AG — both of which just couldn’t grow on me. BP2 is better than I thought it was, but it still wasn’t very good.

      Jay has still made hot joints post-retirement. See “Never Let Me Down,” “Diamonds from Sierra Leone,” “Go Crazy (Remix)”, “Black Republican.” I mean, even “A Billi” was hot if I didn’t hate that beat so much. And I fuck with the “Put On (remix).” And you gotta give it to him for “Umbrella” and the Beyonce songs on the pop tip. But too many of his other verses like “I Get Money (Remix)”, “Jockin Jay Z”, “Watch What You Say To Me,” “SLU,” and most of Kingdom Come and AG just sound like he’s rapping for the sake of riddling.

      Listen, he’s old, he’s rich, he’s married, he doesn’t give a shit. It’s not rocket science.

    • COSIGN!!!

      CO MUTHERFUKIN SIGN!!!!!!

      finally somneone points this out! i thought i was the only one who was there and actually remembered how we felt as each of his albums came out….this is the truest most accurate shit ever posted on this site..

      i was so so fuckin pissed at his second album…i mean some of those songs were fuckin embarrassing…my jaw fuckin hit the floor when i heard sunshine and that other shit…me and my niggas were flat out speechless…we had to wait 5 years until blueprint for him to get back on point

      i feel like jay always just goes after the youngest audience avalable and uses his “swag” to win them over…hes been doing this shit since his second album…i don’t think jay gives a fuck about us…he gives a fuck about pwning everyone and everything by any means necessary…dude’s a hustler period…like he said “and most importantly YOU the customer”…

  • Yayza

    First off, understand the difference between the words “swag” and “swagger”. They are not interchangeable. Second, yes Jay’s new shit hasn’t been up to his standards, but I’m willing to give dude the benefit of the doubt. Even on Swagger Like Us, he still killed that tool Lil Wayne, and debatably even Kanye (haven’t listened to the track a whole lot yet). The facts are, I would rather have Jigga around in some capacity, rather than not at all. There are way too many wack rappers in the game still, and any time one of the greats steps down, it just leaves more room for wackness. At the very least Blueprint 3 will have a few bangers on it to keep shit poppin for a bit longer, till some new cat with actual talent comes out.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com Benicio Del Thoro

    I love you guys on this site, but you guys dropped the ball like T.O. When he was with San Fran…

    First off, I was a ball player most of my life, and there were better players than Michael Jordan in the game of basketball.
    I don’t care what era, what year, who was guarding who…here’s a couple…

    Bill Russell and Wilt

    Then back to the subject, Jay is one of the reasons why big business is a part of hip-hop. His decision to have his image become worldlier is a testament to his growth, lyrically and financially.

    Jay-Z = Hall of Fame First Ballot

    • Pierzy

      T.O. actually had more drops last year with the Cowboys but that’s okay…

  • StreetTalk83

    Now I like Jay-Z, but its true! He’s not the same feared rapper he use to be. But if he still loves making music, that’s on him to say when to hang the mic up! I don’t believe in that age shit! He still better than 90% of the niggas out now!

  • http://kellsfetish.com Lo-Doe

    Jay-Z is the GREATEST RAPPER of ALL TIME. Image can be tarnished but is hardly ever elaborated on when mentioning greatness all in the same aspect. It is mentioned but it never kills the person entirely. People speak on Mike & the Wizards but that is over-shadowed by his greatness. Jay has done the same thing and Kingdom Come was a good come back album because I saw the growth in Jay. I say to this day that Kingdom Come is way better than American Gangster. The streets is just so fascinated with a gangster mentality (not even mentioning the movie) and they are going off what other people say about the album. True Jay fans we could debate it but cats who never purchased a Jay album don’t understand the lyrical content Jay has.
    For the Record: Jay killed “Put On”. He did his thing and he did put them people on (more descriptive in the lyrics).

  • THE SUN GOD

    MICHAEL YOUR FULL OF SHIT THIS IS HOW THA JAY-Z ALBUM RATING ON A 1- 10
    1.REASONAL DOUBT = 10 CLASSIC
    2.VOLUME 1= 4
    3.VOLUME 2= 8 CLASSIC
    4.VOLUME 3=8 EASTCOAST CLASSIC
    5.DYNASTY ALBUM=7
    6.THE BLUEPRINT=10 CLASSIC
    7.THE BLUEPRINT 2=7
    8.THE BLACK ALBUM=10 CLASSIC
    9. KINGDOM COME= 6
    10. AMERICAN GANGSTA=10 CLASSIC

    HE HAS 6 CLASSIC ALBUM
    NAME ONE RAPPER LIVING RITE NOW WITH 5 CLASSIC ALBUM NAME ONE ON JAY-Z LRYCIAL LEVEL AND LIL WAYNE KANYE WEST JEEZY AND T.I ANIT ON HIS LEVEL CAUSE LIL WAYNE AND JEEZY RAP ABOUT THE SAME SHIT THEY ANIT DRUG DEALERS I DONT BELIEVE IT THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE

  • RL

    Maybe Jay loves hip hop so much that he just could not stay away. He did state that his reason for coming out of retirement is because he feels no one in the game could touch him lyrically and that hip hop needs him. But then again, it could be his arrogance on top of his love for hip hop. Given his body of work, prior to retirement, he was certainly an exceptional lyricist/artist but not the greatest of all time. For me, Jay’s lyrical decline started with The Blueprint 1 and Takeover is a prime example of how lazy Jay became lyrically. Also, Renegade but I digress. His best years, IMO, were the years that he collaborated with Big Jaz and Sauce Money. Those dudes brought out the best in Jay lyrically. Check out the Classic Albums series saluting Reasonable Doubt and it will confirm that fact. I don’t mind another Jay-Z album, but sounding cute on the mic (swaggering for the die hards) has gotten very old.

  • bostonyabitch

    i think jay z was never good. he stole too many lines from biggie. honestly east coast rap died when biggie did. u guys all need to get off jay z’s dick and realized that fool shoulda stayed retired. ur just sad cuz ur side of the country aint got shit. its all about the westcoast sorry lames

  • Cake A!

    Jay can say whatever the fuck he want to on a track, he’s still gonna be the “Mike Jordan” of this rap shit..Period!!! BAyArEA GAS EM!

  • @prince Caesar

    HEY CAESAR WHERE ARE WE GOING?
    NAS THE GREATEST….WHAT THE HELL YOU SMOKIN?

    NAS ETHERED JAY Z AND THEN 2PAC BURIED ALL THEM IN ONE SONG. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
    HOW MANY GRAT ALBUMS DO NAS HAVE AND I SAID GREAT NOT GOOD.
    2PAC, JAY-Z, SCARFACE, ICE CUBE, BIGGIE, AND RAKIM. THEN YOU HAVE NAS WHO HAD TWO GREAT ALBUMS AT BEST. AND I LIKE NAS BUT LETS KEEP REAL SLAPNUTS. HE HAD ILLMATIC AND IT WAS WRITTEN. THE ALBUM STILLMATIC WAS GOOD, BUT NOT GREAT.

  • Big GS

    Jay said it best “wat u eat, don’t make me shit.”

  • ito

    he still spittin good shit..

    people buggin.. it aint gon be a legendary verse all da time.. but he still got skills

    and any ways… its dumb to say you gon retire IMO.. cuz you jus neva kno when you wanna come back and appear on suttin.. i mean…unless you a ball player.. but for rappers… nigga , when u wanna “retire” just dont put out nuthin.. and thats it, you dont gotta say it.. peolpe will get da point..

  • Enlightened

    Michael Jordan scored over 50 points three times in his two years with the Wizards. Go find out how many of these niggas nowadays have scored 50 points more than three times in their whole careers!
    After Iverson, Kobe, TMac, Gilbert Arenas and a couple of more, that list is going to be real short nigga.
    Lebron doesn’t even have three 50 point games yet. Most of y’all niggas that talk about Jordan with the Wizards didn’t even watch it.

  • lil_Tijuana

    That’s why he need 2 beef with The GAME, or maybe that’s why he doesn’t? Who knows but I like that Jockin Jay-z record – sick.

  • THE SUN GOD

    EVERY BLOGGER AT XXL IS A JAY-Z HATER AND THEY ARE ALL LIL WAYNE & 50 CENT DICK RIDERS
    XXL MAGAZINE SUCKS THEY WOULDNT KNOW REAL HIPHOP IF IT SLAP THEM IN THA FACE FUCK XXL MAGAZINE AND BLOGGERS

  • Mr. Legal Graffiti

    I honestly don’t understand what the criteria might be for a person to write for XXL, but it must not be more than – “can type on a keyboard.” Some of the comments on this were far more intelligent than the actual blog itself. I mean, opinions are fine, everyone’s got’em, but at least be creative. “freakyfiikkii” took the time to set up a Hip Hop/NBA analogy, more than just saying “Jay-Z is like Michael Jordan”… I expect better from XXL, that’s all I’m sayin’…

  • escobar9300

    I can’t wait till BP3 drops and shuts the mouth of every Jay naysayer.

    ‘They said Hova was over, such dummies. Even if I fell I’d land on a bunch of money’

  • Produnkgirl

    I beg to differ……….If Jay never came out of retirement we weren’t have songs like ‘I know’, Roc Boys, and Lost Ones’. He lost (no pun intended) on songs like ‘A billie’ but he still rap circles arounds new and old rapper alike.

  • CG

    To the nameless cat who wrote this BS article.

    Dog, first of all, put your name on your articles, especially if your going to hate on someone such as the GOAT…… Hov is 39 years old killin people lyrically- without breaking a sweat. His effortless flow on Put on, and swagger like mine, has other emcees re-recording their own verse. Dog, you article is pathetic, similar to Camron’s 2006 dis record. Don’t talk about true moguls like that bro- you sound like a hater…… “Some People Hating!!!!!!” BP3 coming soon haters

  • me

    bet this guy has a life size poster of illmatic in his room. smh

  • Khayan from the bronx

    WHO IS WRITING THESE BLOGS. HAVE U LISTEN TO AMERICAN GANGSTER? HAVE U HEARD ALL THE REMIXES HE HAVE BEEN ON? ARE U KIDDING ME? AND…..ANY REAL BASKETBALL FAN LOVED THE FACT THE MJ CAME BACK TO PLAY FOR THE WIZARDS. AT THAT TIME THE NBA WAS GOING DOWN HILL THE WAY HIP HOP IS RIGHT NOW. AND MIKE CAME BACK AND AVERAGE OVER 20 POINTS BOTH SEASONS AND DROPPED LIKE 10 40 POINT GAMES….SOME BODY NEED TO FIRE THE GUY WHO WROTE THIS

  • render

    The difference between 40 year old MJ and 40 year old Jay is that when MJ came back the 2nd time, there were a whole gang of younguns that could make him look his age. You had Kobe, prime VC, T-mac, AI, KG and Duncan all making Jordan look human for the first time in his career.

    Hov on the other hand could come out with the wackest shit he’s ever done and still look better than 99% of the game right now because the competition just aint there.

    He aint hungry. he aint as good as he used to be, and he aint a lyrical monster but that don’t matter cause these days, no one else is either

  • crooks

    the blogger must have shit in his ears

    american gangster=classic
    maybach music, mr.carter, swag like us=flawless
    put on, billie remix= cool
    jockin jay z= it is what it is..a standard jayz track

    and u want this guy to retire?

    sometimes u bloggers really get a big head about yourselves and think your opinion on music is the be all, end all,

    the time to retire is when u need to put someone else (more popular than yourself) on your track to make it get spins otherwise keep doing what u doing

    and considering jayz owns bout 15 minutes of every hour on the radio stations that i listen to, i dont think he needs to retire

    now, i want this non-music producing blogger to relax, smoke a lil and enjoy the masterpiece that american gangster is and totally rewrite this blog with some common sense

  • soy’yo

    Em cant slam dunk like Jay???? WTF? Em comes back after 2 years and beats tha living shit outta everybody else and that aint slam dunking? He does without any collabo or featured track, all by himself…who does he look like doing it all by himself, perhaps Jordan back in the bulls??. Just listen to the renegade, jay didnt do another em featured track cause he knows how he got murked on his own shit. Em aint the greates of all times, but he sure greater than jay z. One proof is that em does not keep himself on the spotlight as jay yet comes back as if he had never left.

  • Arsonist

    I wasnt a jay fan till after the black album. the song that did it for me was the 95 freestyle wit big L. that was the shit. then i started to hear all his albums and i listen to reasonable doubt everyday since i first heard it, no joke, i dnt give a shit if u think im bullshitting u. i hate vol 1, and vol 3, hardknock life was a good album. the dynasty wasnt my favorite because i wanna kill myself listenin to memphis bleek. all the jay verses were the shit. blueprint 1+2 were the shit, classics, listen to the fuckin message if u dnt think theyre good. the black album was the shit, fuckin went out with a bang… but that wasnt the end. one of MY favorite albums to day, is KINGDOM COME. i thought it killed American Gangster. it was more thought provoking. it seemed like he watered his lyricism down for American Gangster, and dont get me wrong, its still a master piece, the way it IS a fuckin movie in a CD. songs like I KNOW that have creative wordplay. STILL Kingdom Come is something that takes some time to listen to, not just hear, and you’ll see how crazy it is. Listen to his grammy family freestyle and u’ll see how he didnt fall off, he was fuckin better than i ever heard him( xcept 95). then maybach music verse he did, that topped most of my favorite Jay songs in that one verse. every song hes been on, hes not the underdog. Jockin Jay-z isnt one of my favorite songs but i kno wut hes doin. hes gettin all the fuckin industry fans so they listen to him instead of fuckin lil wayne, then maybe when they buy the album they will listen to what real songs are. but all in all, if u hate kindom come, FUCK YOU, ur a dumbass who doesnt know what real thoughtful music is. try listening to BE or Finding Forever, or ANY blackstar album, COLLEGE DROPOUT, thats that real shit

    -Arsonist

  • DMV hustler

    bol why waste your breath typing, you know these jay-z stans are so far up jay-s ass they cant see the truth.

    real niggas know jay recent shit has been wack, but the niggas that ride his dick dont want to believe it

  • jonjon23

    Rap is a young mans game. He needs to get the fuck on and leave it to the youngsters. Its like seeing your dad trying to hang out with you and your friends-it just aint right.

  • DMV hustler

    My favorite MC which is Nas.

    Nas last two joints shitted on HOV’s last two joints.

    so kill all that My fav rapper over your fav rapper shit cus mine is NAS, and thats up for debate who’s better between them two.

    Nas still has that flow, hasn’t lost a step, check out his latest Lp he just dropped.

    Why Jay lost a step in his rhymes when em didn’t check “no apologies”

    Nas didn’t check “queens get the money” first track off his new CD

    Busta Ryhmes didn’t lose a step, still cold with his delivery, word play and flow

    c’mon man, Nas, Em, and Busta still spit that shit they once did years ago, Jay sounding real wack right now, point blank.

    i never understood what a track like “Ether” and getting murdered on his own shit by a lil white boy out of detroit could do.

    i guess when people that dick ride you so much put you up on this throne, it kind of puts alot of pressure on you to make every hit as good as your last.

    Jay don spit like he does on the blueprint anymore, and thats what we real niggas want to hear, thats all we ask for, nothing more, nothing less.

    i like jay like everybody else, i bump his shit all the time, and i know something is wrong now.

    i dont know if its the marriage or what, but he needs to get back on his old shit no excuses

    man kool G rap, big daddy kane, and rakim could drop a track today and still GO HARD like nothings changed, so dont give me no excuse s for a grown ass man that used to and still could sell out concerts

    -good fucking day,

  • Trobin337

    Jay fallin off?? Maaan yal some crazy mafuckas I aint realize it was so many critics…specially of Hov…if Jay is fallin off please tell me who the hell yal are lisnin to that is so hot?? Cuz I need to check em out…cuz Im sleep on em.

    If I see some new shit wit Wayne, Jeezy, Kanye, Lupe, whoever and then I see Jay im lisnin to Hov 1st everytime iont give a fuck if its Danity Kane ft. Jay im lisnin and that shit gone be hot. Jay do this shit for Hip-Hop and the fans, shit if he quit we only got a handful of cats out there thats puttin out classic shit and it really aint nobody doin that to be honest aint nobody besides Nas, Lupe, Jeezy, Talib, Kanye, Pharrell…puttin out shit ima still be “jockin” 5 years down the road…Hov aint got shit to prove no more “Cant leave rap alone the game needs me” right now he just swaggin on his tracks cuz his career is done “what more can he say” like fa real?? This dude got clubs in Singapore, Vegas, and New York…aint nobody in the rap game ever gone pull no shit off like that no mo…he got a share in the Nets…he finna open up some hotels…he bones Beyonce…Lebron fucks wit em…Lebron aint runnin around yellin Young Money, or CTE, or PSC that nigga throwin up the ROC. Not sayin them niggas aint hot but maaaan be real…Jay doin this shit for Hip-Hop if he do this shit to he fifty im still lisnin cuz when he gone…he gone…Wayne and nem aint gone do it for me…Jay career like a movie…this dude so smart he prolly wrote this column to see the responses he get and use this shit as a marketing tool or some shit for BP3 so he can go hard on u haters.

    And fa the record he went in on that Put on remix mockin that T-Pain shit…in his prime wasnt nobody usin that voice box shit its like hand checkin when Mike played niggas could play D with they hands, now Kobe around niggas out there all feet…and Mike coulda came back and sat on the end of the bench and played behind Antonio Daniels in Washington and still be the G.O.A.T.

    And he DEF went in on that Swagger like us…”you can pay for school, but you cant buy class”?? WHAT…and whoever said Kingdom Come or American Gangster was trash hahaha…WOW!! Man b real…he got to grown on yal niggas on Kingdom Come shoutin out his moms and talkin bout how Hollywood is the strongest drug and Beach chairs and shit…Jay been out the hood fa a minute he aint on that street shit no mo…

    “Damn where’s the love??”

    Chi-Town-Soufside!!

  • balaramesh

    woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

    you are right. jay z is no longer the same emcee. GRANTED. dude is 39 years old.

    jay at 39 > all rappers out now.

    he is dropping a lot of subpar music now. i dont like the down south esque songs his on now. he is super dumbing down his rhymes.

    kingdom come was the record one should EXPECT for a 36 year old rapper to make. even 50 cent stated it was “probably too mature for the rap audience. ”

    the one dude was correct. dame was not the best person in the world but he would BLOCK any mediorce jay z track. now, he has no one to butt heads with.

    ti had the flow verse on the very mundane “SWU”. but it was not comparable to twista or eminem giving jay the business. jau still had the best lyrics on the song.

    lyrically and musically, american ganster was nearly flawless. too bad many of you could not interpret the concepts.

    in summary:

    Hov on the other hand could come out with the wackest shit he’s ever done and still look better than 99% of the game right now because the competition just aint there.

  • grant ny

    jay-z wil neva eva b as gud as biggie or nas, this is going on hip hop music, real hip hop music, black album came the close to them but not close enough, eminem is also beta than jay-z, if jay wasnt as rich and got the girl n shit i really dont fink hed b as liked, overated, nearly as much as weezy, i fink if game really goes at him it could be a wrap cos lx guna do 500.000 fisrt week trust me.

  • http://www.yahoo.com Dra$t-iQ Alkoholik

    co-sign the nigga fell off and should have stayed retired atleast then he was in the top 6 of all time behind Pac,Biggy,Em,Nas and Rakim but now he even lower than Ye and Weezy the nigga a shadow of his former self and BP3 would be a fuck up to the BP series,fuck what you heard the nigga is highly overrated with y’all at MTV making him the greatest rapper alive after he promised you doe.you niggas shoul ask yourself 1 question,in 20 years time would anybody remember his albums after retirement? hell no

  • crooklands finest

    i like how u moderating the comments to make it seem like more and more people agree with your bullshit blog

    try and find a negative review of american gangster..i dare u

  • http://xxlmagazine trapp politician

    Yall fake ass hip hop reporters “Dont know shit about what the steet like”.Nigga we like gangsta shit not all that overated fake ass water down shit yall give critical aclaime to like Nas and just so you know American Gangsta was Hov’s hardest album assholes

  • http://www.popoltickin.com Po

    Jay-Z music is still dope than most of the shit out…

    http://www.popoltickin.com

  • Modeliscious

    To say JayZ isnt hot is ridiculous. He may be a lil lax when it comes to the music but his legacy will never be tarnished. Every great/legend has setbacks. I just think he’s so far in the lead tht he’s poppin a willie/having fun with these lame rappers. When he thinks somebody is gainin up to him (real competition, not the overnite one album rappers) he will pick up speed and keep the lead.

  • Suge, why man, why?

    Who the fuck is Jay Z, man? Any of you know the real ‘Shawn Carter’? Yall bad as Angie Martinez(I’m talkin’ dick ryders, yes-men, all that shit). Brainwashed by BET, MTV, and radio. He ain’t change the game; and if you think he did, how? Look at these examples. 2Pac: wanted us 2 band 2gether and stand 2gether(son of a Black Panther); and the trend he started with bandanas and tats is still in full swing. Biggie: made fat guys with money finally get some ass. Death Row Records: THE CHRONIC, in more ways than one (a TRUE movement with Dr. Dre’s beats, Cali weed, and swagger galore). And big up 2 Death Row 4 the FIRST Big Pimpin’ song(check Above the Rim soundtrack).I think Jay aint nothin but a lil crumbsnatcha cause wasn’t no REAL rap stars left. He ain’t take nobody’s shine. After Master P and Cash Money in ’97-’98 wasn’t nobody big left.

  • Your Lip

    You Gotta Be Kidding Me.
    Jay-Z Has The Best Verse On The Song.
    Lil Wayne Is Horrible.
    As You Listen To Lil Wayne ALL of his verses sound the same.
    Jay-Z Went The Hardest On Swagger Like Us.
    As Far As Im Concerned Anyone That Feels That Kobe Is Better Than Jordan And Anyone Of These Rappers Are Better Than Jay-Z Can Suck A Aids Dick!
    HOV

  • reality5000

    ok i jay has alot to live upto cos you have to judge artist against they past,reasonable dought was in most all time top 5′s(if your older than 21)which to me is the problem here,how do you top that album?,well blueprint isnt better(unless your under 21)and i think he should be allowed the other albums in between cos non of them were bad they just werent the two albums i previously mentioned and all of his work has large quantities of genious,some work just seemed un-focused,when challenged by the competition he stood ferm and showed his dominance,im sick of the 2pac and biggie arguments but they aint here and he is showing us how you become a true great whilst staying alive in hip hop,he is at a level never walked by anyone of his calibre ever before,snoop,dmx,ja rule,eminem,50 cent,nas,ice cube,mase,scarface,they are his peers and all had the potential he had but they are no longer in comparison.

  • BORN IN THE NORTH, RAISED IN THE SOUTH

    Jay is obviously not what he once was, but I must admit I was impressed by “American Gangster.” And it is kind of hard to judge him against his current competition since 90% of them are trying to sound like he did 10 years ago… When he starts singing vocoder hooks, I’ll completely give up on him.

  • alderman j

    A YEAR LATER AND THIS BLOG HAS PROVED TO BE PROPHETIC!!!!! MIKE JORDAN WITH THE WIZARDS!!!LMAO!!!!!