Fat Joe Ain’t No Joke…

Take it from me Fat Joe is not someone to be fucked with on some street shit. Son does not play that bullshit. I was hanging with the Terror Squad several years ago in Miami back when the East coast vs. West coast beef was at its height, 1996. Back then there used to be a major record industry convention in south Florida called “How Can I Be Down?” Everyone that wanted a piece of the rap music pie was in South Beach, from established artists to has-beens to never-was. People came from every shithole in the country to try to get a deal or whatever. From Flint to Port Arthur to Compton to Atlanta and Newark.

Being in Miami with Fat Joe is like being in the Bronx with Fat Joe. Son is the mayor of Miami. Everyone knew dude, which was rather disturbing because even the grandmothers knew Fat Joe. Keep in mind that a Puerto Rican grandmother in Miami is in her mid-thirties anyhoo. Joe was a celebrity on the streets and a target for anyone who had some hate for the Terror Squad and the East coast. Sure enough some dude from the Westside who just came home from jail didn’t like Fat Joe’s celebrity status. Right on Collins Blvd. it was about to go down something serious.

Fat Joe stood his ground right there with that bruiser and no one made a move to shoot anyone even though there were several guns in the circle. Basically, no one backed down from the confrontation. And no one interceded on Fat Joe’s behalf either. This is why I call Fat Joe one of the most hardbody rappers in the game right now. Your favorite rapper would have had his weedcarriers make noise for him, but Fat Joe didn’t leave the big boy stuff to his subordinates. I don’t sleep on Papoose either because I see that son has a slick mouth when he gets inside the sound booth. If any of you listened to the joint he just shot at Uncle Murda then you would agree with me that Murda’s career is basically over with.

The overall beef between Fat Joe and Fifty is peculiar to me since neither of these dudes has ever tried to be the King of New York. I wonder what exactly they are beefing over since they deal with two separate constituencies. Fat Joe enjoys Miami too much just like Fifty enjoys L.A. These dudes are arguing over their surrogate home. Like it or not, and I’m sure neither of them really likes it, but Jay-Z is still the King Kong camel of New York. NaS remains the prince of the city while Papoose and Uncle Murda are simply feudal lords. Literally, and figuratively. Just to set the record straight which I’m sure that Fat Joe has already done, no one is lumping this dude up for free. I don’t doubt that Fat Joe will get into scraps, but I seriously doubt that his opponent won’t be getting the worse end of the bargain.

  • D-One

    I used to live in the BX for 9 years, 95-2004. Fat Joe was the only rapper i saw on the regular- like atleast 2-3 times a month in th summer, just chillin on Jerome Ave, City Island, saw dude one weekend at the mall in New Rochelle, just chillin. He have like 4-6 dudes with him, no doubt, but he definitely is on the street as he say. Did he beat Papoose ass? Well, FJ kinda old to be doing that to the kid.

  • http://incilin.blogspot.com Incilin

    “Jay-Z is still the King Kong camel of New York. NaS remains the prince of the city while Papoose and Uncle Murda are simply feudal lords.”

    - Haha, good stuff.

    I guess your right about Joe’s hardbody status. But let’s face it, his rapping is weak as shit. Papoose is a monsta in the booth. But Joey got like 200 pounds on him. Either way, this whole shit is a mess.

    50, much like Suge Knight, just increases the testosterone of everyone around him. This aint good for Pap, who I love, since he was always the kind of dude to keep his nose clean and not get involved in fuckery and internet rumors and shit. Think about it, after getting dropped from Jive he had the video where he got sucker-punched (and the response which he handled well), the Uncle Murder beef, this Joe shit, and running up on Max B. Things don’t look so good.

    • ummm

      fuckery?

  • Wesley

    Get off fat joes dick

  • boltfromthablue

    well duh who didnt kno joe was hard body? he rap wack as fuck tho

  • EReal

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    http://blogs.sohh.com/ya_heard/fatjoe1.html

    Yesterday I ran a story on the rumor mill about Fat Joe. Well look who’s sending his lawyers to virtually every blog that has posted the story, of the Papoose altercation along with the photoshopped picture of a bruised and battered Fat Joe.

    Yeap y’all clearly Fat Joe can’t handle the pressure of having the streetz clown him over the foolishness. However, I’m confused, doesn’t beef help record sales. I mean nobody’s talking about your music Joseph. And that can’t look good.
    ^^^^
    Your “hardbody” rapper is a pussy sendin cease and desist letters to blogs n sites n shit? LMAO. Pussy ass bitch cant even handle a joke. Thats real “hardbody”
    Is it “hardbody” what he’s doing to Puns family?
    Is it “hardbody” what he’s doing to his own crew?
    Fat Joe is a loser.

  • cold war kid

    growin up in mt vernon in the 80′s (right outside the south bx) all the kids in my neighborhood knew who fat joe da gangsta was before he even had a deal…very few rappers rap what they live…but joey’s street cred has always been on high, if not the highest of any rapper out….never really been a fan of joey as a rapper…but he’s an urban legend 4 real

  • Kornphlake

    Well I’ve seen a video of Joe and he looks just fine, Papoose called into the radio. I guess Pap gets the “We don’t believe you, ya need more people!” award.

  • B-EZ

    NO FIFTY TRIED TO BE THE KING OF NY BUT HES TOO WACK FOR THE CROWN…PLUS 50 IS THE CLOSET RAP HOMO OF NYC. 50 WONT EVEN MAKE A MOVE WITHOUT ATLEAST TEN COPS BY HIS SIDE.

    • Mr.Wang

      preach

  • Pierzy

    50 is still mad at Joe for being on Ja’s “New York” song. Rather than saying Jay is still King Kong and NaS is the prince of the city, I would say that they’re co-Kings or some shit (wait until that album drops).

    But yeah, I can’t imagine Fat Joe would get snuffed without something else happening…

  • David

    I’m not a fan of “the streets.” I’m a fan of rap and hip hop or whatever you wanna call it, and Joe still sucks at that.

  • http://www.soundclick.com/crocker Crocker

    I’m only the only one of this fucking blog that equates ethering Uncle Murda to winning Gold in the Special Olympics? I mean seriously. There both garbage. Idk know how else to put that. In fact…why can’t God just off Murda, Joe, & Pap right now? I’ll trade all three for Big L, Big Pun, & B.I.G. forreal.

  • http://whowalkinbrooklyn.com The Music Director, WWIB

    Mt. Vernon homie: ya’ll ain’t “right” outside South BX, although I know what you’re saying to the folks outside the city it makes sense. Now we wanna talk hardbody… how about the Trini & Yardies on White Plains Road? I grew up on Cypress Ave in tha’ Boogie Down & even I’m a bit shook when those island dudes get rowdy.

    Billy, it takes a real street blogga to riff on mid-30s PR grandmamis– props.

  • your worst enemy

    you already told this story. you runnin out of material if only you had a girl or life you could have somethin to talk about.haha

  • cold war kid

    my dude…i grew up 3 blocks from 241st…me and my young homies used to ride our bikes to yankee stadium in the summer…step ya mapquest game up..but i aint claimin bx..dont get it confused…this money earnin till the death of me..

  • ben

    joe raps weak. come on billy we dont believe u u need more people

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      • Kev Lomax

        It ain’t fire.

        Has to be the wackest hook I ever heard in my life and he swagger jackin Wayne.

        Just my opinion.

  • Manka Cat

    Of course Fifty and Joe haven’t tried to be King of New York officially. Nothing is that organized in today’s game. All Jay had to do was release a track, and the radio stations held a damn vote. It wouldn’t happen that clear cut today. I think Fifty is so cocky he just considers himself King or at least somthing just as good. “I can go at Nas and Jigga, both for the thrown”. “I run New York…”

    He hates Fat Joe for the same reason Pac started listing half of his enemies in ’96. Joe worked with his mortal enemy, Ja Rule. Now granted, Joe actually spit on “New York” at Fifty, but Fifty is a little more sane than Pac. It’s the same reason Fifty still hates Jada, though he doesn’t talk about it as much.

    Plus, Fat Joe KILLED 50 on “My FoFo”. Shit album, one of the best diss tracks I’ve ever heard, mostly because it’s so direct. I don’t like Fat Joe, but I’ll give him this: He doesn’t give a fuck.

    By the way, I’ve never figured this out…On the same Fat Joe album as (pretty much) the most successful 50 diss song, Eminem gives Joe a verse. And not just that, but talks in it about “Calling up Dre, let him know theres a storm headed all our way…” That just doesn’t sound like Em to me. Why would he try to be smooth shit over with TS, and why do it by acting intimidated? And why wasn’t 50 pissed?

    • Kev Lomax

      That fuckin remix came out over a year before his album dropped. That remix came out almost 6 months before “New York” dropped dude. That remix was out like a month after the original “Lean Back”.

      Pick up a mixtape man, there wasn’t no beef when Em gave Joe that verse. Joe just threw it on the album after the fact, cause the shit was hot.

      • Manka Cat

        Gotcha. I’m in fucking Wyoming dude. Where the hell am I gonna get a mixtape? The few I have are off ebay and shit.

        • Jew-Z

          free mixtapes at datpiff.com

        • Kev Lomax

          My bad dude. That’s as good as excuse as any to not know.

          Check out http://www.imixtape.com

          For like $13 bucks a month you can download as many mixtapes as you want. And they got everything.

          If not, get Limewire. Then just go to imixtape and check out what’s new and download it for free on Limewire…not a guarantee you’re gonna find the whole mixtape or the mixtape at all. Worth a shot though.

          Sorry I went a lil hard on you, most mufuckas in these threads are hard heads.

          Check the shit out though.

          Hip-Hop

          One.

  • Zaki Narche

    Jay-z Never be a king!

    Nas is The King!
    Jay-Z just a President!

    King and President are different things!

  • Big Mike

    You talk like Fat Joe is running things, he can’t even pay his taxes. He can’t even support his friends (Big Pun) family. Every single he has is with a popular artist. 50 has done more in his career in 5 years then Fat Joe and he has been in the game for over 10 years. And he’s not hard because he stands around in the hood, it’s because he’s broke. People don’t see 50, Jay, Diddy around the hood is because these guys are worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

  • http://hiphoponmymind.blogspot.com DJ Daddy Mack

    “The overall beef between Fat Joe and Fifty is peculiar to me since neither of these dudes has ever tried to be the King of New York.”

    Now, u know Curtis has been trying. Don’t lie for him, Billy.

    “I wonder what exactly they are beefing over since they deal with two separate constituencies.”

    It started with 50′s Piggy Bank I believe. I could be wrong. Look for it on youtube.

    “Like it or not, and I’m sure neither of them really likes it, but Jay-Z is still the King Kong camel of New York. NaS remains the prince of the city while Papoose and Uncle Murda are simply feudal lords.”

    Now, u r smoking with all of this. Jay is not the King of NY. More like the grandpa. Niggas need to stop dat quest to be the King. Lets unite u dumb fucks.

  • http://whowalkinbrooklyn.com The Music Director, WWIB

    We’re good 914 but mapquest my 718 ass– we don’t use no fucking maps! You have to remember, by far most of the people here don’t know the X other than baseball, just as most New Yorkers don’t know shit about Mt. V. in general. I’m just trying to rep the worlds between the Cross Bronx & Westchester… or to put it another way, City Island ain’t Riverdale & my Brook Ave posse would beat down both without sweating. Peace to Mami’s ass at Orchard Beach, however, hah!

  • N.O. in my viens

    50 was beefin wit ja…ja had welcome to new york which was a great track with jadakiss and fat joe…50 was upset prolly at them almost makin ja relevant again for a split second…so he went at Joe and Kiss…thats why they are beefin

  • EVILDEAD

    Shout out Billy always keeping it gully! Although I came up in New Jeruz and did my time in NYC, I have always been screaming at heads about how real Fat Joe is since ‘Flow Joe’. But the truth is..it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Pap, Remy, or anybody gives a f-ck about your rep in the the early 90s. Every rapper has a past and got they goons in place when they need em’. Fat Joe said he hasnt had a fight since Junior High..but we all know Cuban Linx had a couple of altercations with him. And I’d take Pap over Cuban any day. At the end of the day..if Joey, Pap, and Fif get a lil’ buzz over this..who am I to judge what happened that day

  • Kid Kash

    “By the way, I’ve never figured this out…On the same Fat Joe album as (pretty much) the most successful 50 diss song, Eminem gives Joe a verse. And not just that, but talks in it about “Calling up Dre, let him know theres a storm headed all our way…” That just doesn’t sound like Em to me. Why would he try to be smooth shit over with TS, and why do it by acting intimidated? And why wasn’t 50 pissed?”

    haha.. Em got paid, thats why he did the verse. Fat Joe wanted to punk 50 by putting his boss on a track knowing that 50 would be to pussy to spark a beef with Em!

    well atleast thats my take on it.

    • og bobby j

      em was on the remix to lean back, which was recorded prior to the beef between 50 and fat joe. And the storm that em is refering to is not terror squad…or chubby joe. He is reffering to southern rap…atleast IMO

    • Kev Lomax

      Uh, no.

      See my comment to Manka Cat.

      • og bobby j

        you reffering to me…because im confiednt we agree here.

        • Kev Lomax

          Yeah… we posted at the same time. I was responded to the same dude you was.
          All good.

  • Tone

    lol i hopeee billy sunday was joking

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  • I REIGN SUPREME

    You make Fat Joe seem like some kind of LEGEND. I must admit though, I have been to Miami and seen fat joe and terror squad on the street, and out of everyone that had there team out there with them and called themselves a RAPPER, he was the only one I seen whose whole team looked like they had money, everyone had a chain, everyone “looked” loyal. Most of these rappers you see will be out in the streets with there team and the team look BROKE and the rapper be the only one fresh. So props to fat joe. That’s what a GOOD LEADER does when they eat their team eats. Creates loyalty.

    • Kev Lomax

      Uh, exactly how many original members of TS are left?

      “Creates loyalty”?

  • moresickaMC

    f&cc fat Joe…50 been in the street too

  • Combat Jack

    You ever see that dark mark on the side of Damon Dash’s ginormous head? That’s the result of a lil brawl that took place in a lil nite club named Sweetwaters back in the early ’90′s (94?) between a then fledling Roc-a-fella crew vs. Fat Joe and his BX posse. Damon came into my office the next day, head swelled up and bandaged, laughing about how they all got into a fight the night before and how Joe had an empty bottle of Moet and kept banging that shit against Dame’s dome. Dame’s main thought at the time was “FUCK, I hope the effin bottle eventually breaks so this nigga can stops banging me with it.” Someone else from Joe’s crew supposedly had Jay-Z backed up against a wall, slammin Jigga’s head, neck, back, shoulders against said wall. Knew back then Joe’s crew was serious. True Story.

  • Kev Lomax

    Oh and when the last time Fat Joe did a 5 borough tour?

    Mufucka comes home to tape a video for wack ass 300 Brolic and dips back to MIA.

    50 always in NY. Mufuckas act like Connecticut is on the West Coast and shit. The shit is only a car ride away.

    • B-EZ

      50 AINT NEVER THERE THAT BITCH IS OUT IN LA MOST THE TIME HANGING WITH WHITE TRASH LIKE PARIS HILTON. BESIDES WHO THE FUCK WOULD WANT TO STAY IN THAT SHITHOLE NYC IN THE WINTER WHEN THEY COULD BE CHILLING IN 80 DEGREE WEATHER NEAR THE BEACH. FUCK THAT COLD WEATHER BULLSHIT…MIA IS BETTER THAN NY ANY DAY

      • Kev Lomax

        Stop frontin like you been up here and shit. I’m originally from Lauderdale dick head. Lived in Melbourne, Palm Bay, Palm Coast, Flagler Beach, Ft. Walton Beach, Daytona and Bunnell. Get out your state map, ass. I been all over the Swamp homie. I stay in Queens now.

        If you ain’t in NYC, don’t tell me 50 ain’t never here. Your bitch ass don’t even know what a “borough” is.

        Actin like I dissed MIA and shit. Sensitive ass.

        • og bobby j

          These soft south niggas man….Im from q-buro myself, and I stayed out in Fla for about two years (orlando)….No body wants to be in that heat all year….B-Ez sound like you never been up here in the winter…standing in the cold blowin l’s builds character my dude.

        • Kev Lomax

          Word.

          Bet if I told this mufucka it was “brick” outside, he think they building some shit.

          Will somebody from the dirty rep correct please, cause one of your kinfolk up in here soundin soft as hell.

        • Around and Around

          Should we leave Ho G & “Kev” alone for their private stroke fest to the Q-Buro?

  • stoneyisland

    I guess it just the society we live in but mad niggas have been writing in shitting on Joe. Either he’s a punk or cant rap, yada-yada-yada. My question is did Fat Joe personally do sumptin to all you hating ass niggas? I mean did he take your moms out and never return her calls? did he take your lunch money in junior high? I mean some of yall aint got shit better to do then hate. If one man is making paper, you hate, if one man has a hot ride, you hate. You muthafuckas are whats wromg with rap and life in general. If Fat Joe is such a constant source of your hate, then do the world a favor and go kill yourself. Hating ass bitches. Let the nigga live HIS life and you hateful ass crab barrels niggas can go get a life.

    • Kev Lomax

      How many times can one motherfucker repeat the same shit… THIS IS THE COMMENT SECTION. This is the spot where you state your opinion of whoever or whatever the topic is.

      Did everybody else do somethin to you personally?

      Aight then, post your shit and keep it movin bra.

      P.S. Just cause a mufucka don’t like your favorite artist don’t mean they hatin…they just happen to like some other shit.

  • http://www.myspace.com/chronikill ROX ONE

    I saw Papoose beat the sht out of someone at the Lions Den in the ville back in 2004. He jumped off the stage, cracked dude in the face and jumped back on stage as the other dude was bleeding all over the place.

  • satalyte

    Dame’s main thought at the time was “FUCK, I hope the effin bottle eventually breaks so this nigga can stops banging me with it.
    ^^
    That shit is hilarious.

  • yoprince

    loyalty? there are NO original members of TS left except the ones who still get hype over fake ass chains..

    and that fat nigga aint hardbody like that.. that shit is just latin pride, all them puerto ricans act tough until they get lumped up. c’mon now.. all hood niggas know that!

  • yoprince

    and dame is a funny nigga.

  • INF

    BILLY YEAH RIGHT!! LMAOO

    BORN,RAISED, AND STILL LIVING IN THE BRONX THIS GUY IS NOT A FACTOR IN NEW YORK..YOU IS BUGGIN!!!!!

    On the real tho, TS WAS the team back in the day, but they aint hard out here no more..
    Fat joe comes to new york once a year hes a southern rapper.AND I LIVE ON WHITE PLAINS ROAD BX..Billy you dont noe what u talkn about trust me

  • http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

    HOE G says-These soft south niggas man….Im from q-buro myself, and I stayed out in Fla for about two years (orlando)….

    Wooow,whitebwoi met him somebody.Nigga puhlease cant even get insurance now you takin trips and shit? Sellin wolf ticcets cuz you aint gotta lie 2 kicc it

    • og bobby j

      how many times do I need to tell you? Leave the dick sucking to your father, and stop deepthroating me. Does your wifey know how I stay on your brain? Dont you have some game records to blast while repping your sets? I see you finally dropped that 7 star general image huh? Your a fucking degenerate….I told you before that you cant fuck with me, your just not smart enough. Daniel son…

      Paint the fence…hoe

  • Maddolies

    He myt not of mentioned his name but EReal is obviously a G-Unit/50 Cent Dikryder.

  • http://xxlmag.com Billy X. Sunday

    Who in the fuck is talking about Fat Joe’s rhymes skills?

    Niggas need some reading comprehension skills f’real.

  • AJG Da Aviator

    Best blog i’ve read in a while!!!! no more need to be said

  • cold war kid

    Billy X….

    u got xm radio??if not you need to get that shit..thats the best shit i ever bought in my life…but anyway…fat joe was on there last nite talking with ms. kitti…he told the real deal of what happened….

    here’s the rundown:

    joey and his crew went looking for pap…cass didnt set him up…they found him in cass’s room…papoose was on serius 45 with someone who fat joe aint wanna mention..well this unnamed assailaint was clownin fat joe and talkin bout how he boned his wife..pap was on there laughin…so that brings us full circle…fat joe asked pap if he had a problem with him…pap said”do u want it to be a problem” and fat joe proceeded to pound him and his boys out…it was a fair one from what joey said…4 of ts vs. 4 of pap’s crew…well here’s the comedy…after joey and ts pounded pap and his crew out, fat joe said he had a heart to heart with pap and pap asked for his watch back that got yaked during the scuffle…joey told him he was on his own with that…he said pap hugged him and they went about their busines…then pap starts talking greasy athe next day…well joey said guccimane, cass and yo gotti were in the room so the truth is gonna come out…but i believe joey anyway….

  • boltfromthablue

    cEreal said
    “Yesterday I ran a story on the rumor mill about Fat Joe. Well look who’s sending his lawyers to virtually every blog that has posted the story, of the Papoose altercation along with the photoshopped picture of a bruised and battered Fat Joe”.

    yeah remove that muthafucker from the net i’d do the same

    cEreal said
    “Is it “hardbody” what he’s doing to Puns family?”

    that shit is hardbody as hell doesnt make it right

    “Is it “hardbody” what he’s doing to his own crew?”

    keeping all the money for yourself and have all your weed carriers writing your rhymes and carrying your guns and nobody complains or they get a fat scar on there cheek errrrr still g in my eyes

  • http://www.yorapper.com/fat-joes-lays-the-lumps-on-papoose/ YoRapper

    Agree, them ny pr dudes are crazy. Here’s Fat Joe’s side of the story.

    http://www.yorapper.com/fat-joes-lays-the-lumps-on-papoose/

  • FLIP

    In my experience the best rappers are not gangsters, and the real gangsters are terrible rappers. There is no exception to the rule. Therein, Fat Joe is by and far the most gangster dude the rap industry has ever seen.

    • Kev Lomax

      Truth.

  • CHICAGO “G”

    I don’t believe pap not because he’s small he just sounds suspect and Joe Crack was on the radio saying that Gucci Mane and all them other rapper niggas saw it go down if he got whooped why would he throw himself under a bus, and if you grew up in the hood you should be able to withstand a two piece from a guy thats a buck fifty wet…

  • http://www.theunderwriters.blogspot.com THE UNDERWRITER

    There’s some true douche-baggery going on in here. You know, for all you Hoe-G’s out chea, I don’t mean to agree with BXS all the damn time, but the truth is that he knows what the eff he’s speaking on, so I end up agreeing without even trying.

    I’ve heard from several reliable sources that Joey is that dude in the BX. Heard of all type of affliations and such. Plus, I remember when D.I.T.C. was banging, and he was pretty much certifiably unfuckwitable on the streets.

    Now, Fiftee has y’all confused. Fif, in all reality, could probably beat Joe’s ass in a boxing match, but maybe not. But I know that Fif is too chicken to meet on the streets, because Joey’s definitely bringing the biscuits. Word to KFC. Shout to Kane C.

    *Rolling up, still waiting for Courtesy Curtis*