What if Hillary still won?

You know what would suck balls? If Hillary Clinton somehow still managed to beat Barack Obama.

As I’ve mentioned before on this site, I don’t really care too much for either of them. But between the two of them, I’d much rather see Obama get it, if only for the sake of journalism. So a few weeks ago, I voted for Obama on Super Tuesday. This fall, however, I’m gonna be taking a serious look at who ever’s running as a third party candidate, regardless of which candidate gets the nod for the Democrats.

The other day, Barack Obama won the Chesapeake Primary, which I had never even heard of, and he’s won something like the last eight primaries in a row. So he’s obviously got the Joementum on his side. But I read just now that Hillary Clinton is dominating him in the polls in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Texas – all of which have primary elections coming up in the next few weeks, and all of which are fucking huge states.

What gives?

I’m assuming Obama has all but written off a win in Texas, for the same reason he got fucking trounced by Hillary out in California. Namely, because hispanics are too racist to vote for a black candidate. Or, if you want to take the PC route (which I’m sure is better for your career), because [insert the world's most convoluted excuse for obvious racism evar].

But I’m not sure what’s going on in Ohio and Pennsylvania. As far as I know, there aren’t nearly as many hispanics there (yet). Supposedly, both states have been hard hit by economic issues such as factory closings, subprime lending and what have you, and Hillary’s line of BS is more appealing to people who need money more than they need hope.

Which of course strikes me as odd. The part of me that’s given to hating on shit, i.e. the only part there is, wonders: if these people work in factories for a living, why is it that they’re smart enough not to buy into Obama’s audacity of hope BS, and yet so many college-educated types have? They’re probably just racist. Either way, Obama’s got his work cut out for him.

Then there’s the issue of superdelegates, which is again some shit I never even heard of until just now. Conspiracy-prone black man that I am, it sounds like some shit they just came up with for the purpose of stealing this election. But apparently they’ve been around for a while now; it’s just that primary elections usually aren’t this close.

This one is though. Mathematically, it’s one’s gonna have to be decided by superdelegates, regardless of which candidate has more “pledged” delegates going into the convention, in August. The issue is whether the superdelegates, which are Democratic party establishment types, are all gonna side with Hillary, who’s the establishment candidate in this race.

In the comments to one of these posts the other day, it was suggested that, if Hillary managed to secure the nomination through such shenanigans, there was gonna be a scene at the convention along the lines of the protests at the 1968 Democratic Convention, in Chicago, when the cops beat the living shit out of a bunch of dirty long-hairs who were pissed about the war or whatever.

However, I seriously doubt that’s gonna be the case this time around. This year, the convention is being held in Denver, CO, which, as far as I know, doesn’t have a whole lot of angry black people. And it’s not like black people were turning over cars and shit down in Florida when Sieg Howdy stole the election from Al Gore back in 2000.

Nah, black people would probably fall in line behind Hillary and vote Democrat in ridonkulous numbers like they always do. Or would they? What do you fruits think?

  • matt52

    First…

    I cant believe anyone thinks that anyone in the Democratic or Republican party is actually going to accomplish anything substantial let alone make any sort of “change” whatsoever. I guess this vicious cycle is just going to keep continuing until enough people get fired up and do something drastic. Ron Paul 2008.

    • Xannot

      Ron Paul and his candidacy are a joke that’s long since run its course. He will NEVER be President. EVER. Is he even still running? Someone tell him it’s not funny anymore. For the love of whatever God you pretend exists.

      • PURPLE HULK

        WHO DO YOU WANT TO WIN THE NEXT ELECTION?

        IF YOU WERE REMOTELY INFORMED, YOU WOULD KNOW RON PAUL IS THE CANIDATE BEST SUITED TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT, AND ITS PATHETIC THAT YOU LET MAINSTREAM MEDIA TELL YOU WHO TO SUPPORT.

        • pileofshirt69

          And if you were remotely informed, you would know that Ron Paul doesn’t believe in evolution. No-one that dumb should hold any office above janitor.

        • clarknova

          Ron Paul is a goddamned lunatic. For every smart thing he says he will then turn around and say something equally dumb. LIbertarians, give it up. You will never have a president in the White House. Guys like Ron Paul live on the outside of the power structure and will never have a chance. That’s the world we live in, folks. Welcome to it.

        • Fire

          Clarknova, can you give a couple examples of what you think are his smart and dumb statements?

        • clarknova

          From Ron’s own “statement of faith”: “In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, H.R. 1094. I am also the prime sponsor of H.R. 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn. I have also authored H.R. 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for so-called “population control.” Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken and will continue to advocate direct action to restore protection for the unborn.”

          That, is a stupid statement. And here, from the same document, is a smart one:
          On September 17, 2001, I stated on the house floor that “…striking out at six or eight or even ten different countries could well expand this war of which we wanted no part. Without defining the enemy there is no way to know our precise goal or to know when the war is over. Inadvertently more casual acceptance of civilian deaths as part of this war I’m certain will prolong the agony and increase the chances of even more American casualties. We must guard against this if at all possible.”

          There’s way more than this out there. I like the guy but he’s too crazy. I mean, no income tax, no department of education? I’m not saying the system works, but it’s going to take a lot more than ol’ Ron supposes to enact change on the level he’s advocating. And as you can see above, some of what he wants I view as…wrong.

        • clarknova

          Um, I posted some of his smart and dumb statements, but after being up for a bit they seem to have been deleted. I don’t know why? Anyway, Here is his “Statement of Faith”, which is dumb (pro-life) and smart (anti-war) in roughly equal measure.

          Statement of Faith
          We live in times of great uncertainty when men of faith must stand up for our values and our traditions lest they be washed away in a sea of fear and relativism. As you likely know, I am running for President of the United States, and I am asking for your support.

          I have never been one who is comfortable talking about my faith in the political arena. In fact, the pandering that typically occurs in the election season I find to be distasteful. But for those who have asked, I freely confess that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, and that I seek His guidance in all that I do. I know, as you do, that our freedoms come not from man, but from God. My record of public service reflects my reverence for the Natural Rights with which we have been endowed by a loving Creator.

          I have worked tirelessly to defend and restore those rights for all Americans, born and unborn alike. The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideal of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle.

          In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman. In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, H.R. 1094. I am also the prime sponsor of H.R. 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn. I have also authored H.R. 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for so-called “population control.” Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken and will continue to advocate direct action to restore protection for the unborn.

          I have also acted to protect the lives of Americans by my adherence to the doctrine of “just war.” This doctrine, as articulated by Augustine, suggested that war must only be waged as a last resort— for a discernible moral and public good, with the right intentions, vetted through established legal authorities (a constitutionally required declaration of the Congress), and with a likely probability of success.

          It has been and remains my firm belief that the current United Nations-mandated, no-win police action in Iraq fails to meet the high moral threshold required to wage just war. That is why I have offered moral and practical opposition to the invasion, occupation and social engineering police exercise now underway in Iraq. It is my belief, borne out by five years of abject failure and tens of thousands of lost lives, that the Iraq operation has been a dangerous diversion from the rightful and appropriate focus of our efforts to bring to justice to the jihadists that have attacked us and seek still to undermine our nation, our values, and our way of life.

          I opposed giving the president power to wage unlimited and unchecked aggression, However, I did vote to support the use of force in Afghanistan. I also authored H.R. 3076, the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001. A letter of marque and reprisal is a constitutional tool specifically designed to give the president the authority to respond with appropriate force to those non-state actors who wage aggression against the United States while limiting his authority to only those responsible for the atrocities of that day. Such a limited authorization is consistent with the doctrine of just war and the practical aim of keeping Americans safe while minimizing the costs in blood and treasure of waging such an operation.

          On September 17, 2001, I stated on the house floor that “…striking out at six or eight or even ten different countries could well expand this war of which we wanted no part. Without defining the enemy there is no way to know our precise goal or to know when the war is over. Inadvertently more casual acceptance of civilian deaths as part of this war I’m certain will prolong the agony and increase the chances of even more American casualties. We must guard against this if at all possible.” I’m sorry to say that history has proven this to be true.

          I am running for president to restore the rule of law and to stand up for our divinely inspired Constitution. I have never voted for legislation that is not specifically authorized by the Constitution. As president, I will never sign a piece of legislation, nor use the power of the executive, in a manner inconsistent with the limitations that the founders envisioned.

          Many have given up on America as an exemplar for the world, as a model of freedom, self-government, and self-control. I have not. There is hope for America. I ask you to join me, and to be a part of it.

          Sincerely,

          Ron Paul

        • clarknova

          Sorry. Durn vagaries of the internet.

        • Fire

          Thanks, clarknova. Too many people blindly take positions without knowing what they mean, and I just wanted to see where you were coming from. I’m a Ron Paul supporter, but I don’t agree with everything he advocates, such as his views on abortion and gun control. However, I do agree with his economic beliefs and great desire to cut the size of the federal government, as well as his reverence for the Constitution. His beliefs on upholding civil liberties are also great.

          Nobody says change will be easy and immediate, in fact far from it. It will be difficult and gradual. He is not the answer to all America’s problems by himself, but he does have some great ideas that people should adhere to.

        • clarknova

          I feel you Fire. He does have some great ideas. Too bad he’s also got some dumb ones. I can’t budge on the whole “pro life” thing….

    • Liam

      “I cant believe anyone thinks that anyone in the Democratic or Republican party is actually going to accomplish anything substantial let alone make any sort of “change” whatsoever.”

      Umm.. isn’t Ron Paul a Republican?

  • ddubbzz

    Yea…i’m not to big on politics and shit, but when i heard about the “super delegates” it made my stomach drop. If the presidency is decided by super delegates, then clinton has this, by the way, what is a super delegate? Time to google that shit

  • anonymous

    Hillary could not beat a Republican. If she got the nomination it’d be over. Not even Republicans want to vote for McCain, but they would definitely come out in huge numbers if Hillary was nominated to run.

  • King B

    Chesapeake is in Va Bol recognize that shit VA all day!

  • Boosie

    Well Im bored and I will answer this for bol,

    1.Of course not bol has never fuked a black chick

    2 The last time Bol had pussy when he payed a crackhead for pussy which is like every single day

    3 Bol prefers to smash white hoes and no sistas do not like bol. Sistas actually love him

    4 Bol prefers wants white hoes before black girls

    5 boi would rather fuk Angelina Jolie, a duh @ boostie

    Boosie you seem like you don’t respect other peoples freedom of opinions. And why would you be so caught up in wondering whether the next man got pussy or not. Thats kind of gay on your part its sounds like you want him for yourself.

    Boosie whens the last time you got any pussy?
    _______________________________________________

    When I fucked your moms yesterday…

    It’s really gay for another nigga to take up for a nigga he dont know..I could give a damn about respecting another niggas opinion on a blog site fam…I asked your secret Lover these questions, cause He seem like the type that dont hardly get any pussy…SMH at you for defending another man…You gotta crush on this nigga or something?

  • Tyler

    BoL, dude. What’s up with this new found love for another Black man? i.e. Obama. I have been following your dumb fat ass for awhile now and U were a big time Obama hater not 2 long ago and as I have mention before U were on Hillary’s nut sack pretty damn hard which I am quite sure that she does have a pair. So what gives? “But between the two of them, I’d much rather see Obama get it”

    And if U had truly been following the elections or the polls you would know that Obama has never been favored in any state nor has he been in the lead in any of the polls until they were closed and he had beat the tar-shit out of that white cracker bitch hoe. Sorry 2 all my white brothers but U know what I mean. He has been coming from behind like a true black man would to any whiteslut with a phatass and I don’t think the other states will be any different execpt Texas cause that is Sieg Howdy’s country and he ain’t gonna let no black man get any love. Not on his watch any way. Ask Kanye.

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      Is this what people mean when they say functionally illiterate?

  • b-ease

    I’m pretty sure Obama is the Anti-Christ.

    With that said, I am still voting for him.

  • Yup

    Hey King B…Not just Va. But the whole DMV (D.C., Maryland, Virginia) in General!

  • bush

    she will win, she allready been chosen im sure,she was at the bildernerg metting in 07. so its a done deal lol

  • Manka Cat

    Wow, I’m siding with Bol for once. Tyler, I don’t exactly know what your saying, but shut up. And Boosie? What the fuck? Are you on speed or something? Motherfuck.
    Anyway, I think Bol’s right about the riot shit. The only rioting done when spanky took office in 2000 was in DC and it was pretty mediocre shit. Plus, it was whites as much as blacks. The superdelagate stuff is some bullshit though, but there was an article about one of them who was going for Hillary switching his vote promise to Barack “to avoid conflict at the convention”. Maybe more people will fall in, though I think the dude I’m talking about was black.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/us/politics/15clinton.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1203112029-2XGgj48IwfjLyZpRoAvHvg

  • http://www.plasticsquirtguns.blogspot.com thoreauly77

    they’re both better than any republican piece of shit.

    • Liam

      very true

  • DevilintheFlesh

    I think it is fucking Obsurd to vote for Obama. What qualifies this man to be the President?

    He rides right down the Fucking middle on every issue he faces. I also think that more racism is involved in voting for Obama than there is voting against Obama.

    He is an educated Black man…kudos!!! But our country needs to have the Clintons clean up the Bush’s mess…again….LOL(nullus?)

    • EReal

      Whos that other Candidate that rides the middle and dances on issues based on the constituency?

      OH YEAH! THATS HILLARY!

      *SMH*

  • realtype

    Below, I will make some quick judgments and give you my opinion of each candidate:

    Obama: He seems like the lesser of two evils when it comes to going democratic. I don’t by into the “lacks experience” argument because experience does not equate to capability. He seems a little to idealistic and while he presents seemingly plausible goals, he reminds me of the kid in your local grammar school student council elections that promised to get chocolate milk out of the water fountains and no homework on Friday’s.

    Pro :
    He did stand forth with his belief that the Iraq War was worse then blood money in a pimps cum. And, he did it at a time when the approval rating for both Bush and the War were in the 90% range. Basically, he was firm in his decision and stood by it whilst campaigning for a run in the Senate. Therefore, he was willing to risk his potential politcial career by expressing a then unpopular opinion. In addition, he had the foresight to see what a shit storm we were walking into.

    Con:
    Having the middle name of “Hussein” does not sit well with some, especially those crazy middle Americans. That, in combination with his skin color, seems to bother the less educated population. Personally, the only problems I have is what was mentioned above. His ideals sound great, but seem to lack substance.

    Hillary:
    I guess I’m a hater, but I just don’t like this bitch. It is just something she gives off that makes me think about slapping her with my strong hand, directly following a snowball fight. I guess the whole Clinton/Bush Dynasty creates a little resentment in me as well. And what experience does she have? She was the first lady to the most overrated president in history. She is just trying to use the popularity of her husbands’ presidency for her own political success.

    Pro:
    She seems to have a better grasp of the political process. Also, I think she is a little more realistic with her goals in regards to troop withdrawal and immigration.

    Con:
    She seemed to outline an okay health care reform model, but then realized she needed the financial backing from the Big Healthcare Providers….so I guess that will need adjustments. Also, she is a woman. And no offense to women, but they are a crazy breed. We can have her mad at the Cabinet members because of the way they said something. Iran may need to be ready to go if Hillary is on the rag. (Side note: What kind of woman won’t give her husband, who happends to be the fucking President of the United States, a descent blowjob? Instead, the poor man is forced to shot his load on the dress of some fat secretary.)

    • DevilintheFlesh

      She was a State Senator for New York. That’s her experience.

  • Skeet Cliff

    So Bol if you dont care about Hillary or Obama, who do you care for?

    Are you a Republican? what last candidate did you care for?

  • tha_face

    Hey motherfucker, I’m mexican- american and I’m voting for Obama, we aint all racist

  • http://www.fuckyou.com Fuck Black Niggers

    “Namely, because hispanics are too racist to vote for a black candidate”

    suck a dick you overweight piece of shit.

    I’m Mexican and i voted for Obama.

    I’m starting to regret it now because all you blacks are all the same. a bunch of fucken no good animals

  • what!!!!!!!!!

    hispanics are to racist to vote for a blaCK PRESIDENT??,most hispanics that dont like blacks are the ones who in their lifetime have had a bad experience with blacks, and they dont want you to have the bragging rights, then yall be trashing hispanics, blacks would never vote for a latino,i guarantee it!

  • Jak tha Ripper

    I don’y get it I’m Hyspanic, Phillipino and I voted for Obama

  • barbarian to da end

    What if Hillary won?

    Why, yet another repeat of the appeasing, asskiss years of the Carter & Clinton years redoubled, combined with heavy financial tax pressure placed directly on the backs of the middle-class to pay for Hillary’s & the Dem’s vision of giving the store away in the name of creating some sort of kindly, grandiose, uber-Nannystate.

    Bad enough to have Bush spending money like a drunken sailor on thwarting Islamic ding-dongs, but I’d rather have that gold spent on thumping & killing the murderous, loon behavior of a failed Islamic relgion and culture than seeing it pissed away trying to create & prop up some idealistic, fantasy structure that the American people would be forced to dismantle due to the fantastic costs and the need to finance other priorities in an ever heavy, changing world.

    If Obama were to swing it, and politics is always the art of the possible, at least he has given indicators that he can alter his views toward a more reasonable, logical approach when unpleasant facts & events kick in him in the ass hard enough(and they most certainly will!).

    Obama = vague as Hell, but not straightjacketed by Liberal philosophy

    Hillary = a tried, known quantity, but wrapped solid in Progressive desires and not equal to the challenging times ahead.

    • clarknova

      Barbarian= Moron who will vote for the same party who spent the last 8 years fucking up literally everything they touched.

      • Liam

        He even used the word ‘nannystate’, which i’m pretty sure is the most over-used conservative cliche ever.

  • stoneyisland

    If hilary and obama arent careful their ambition is gonna split the ticket and let Mcain sneak in and win this shit. As a black man my instincts say vote for obama but this cat does not have enough politcal experience, he should run as th vice pre, get some real political time under his belt then have the entire party behind him in 4 or 8 years. I still say AMerica will vote for a man hating white women before a qualified brother.

  • Maddolies

    Its Funny dat Boosie can say all dat bout Bol wen he is himself a closet Homo Virgin hu Likes Fat Men Sitting on his face.

  • Maddolies

    Its Funny dat Boosie can say all dat bout Bol wen he is himself a closet Homo Virgin hu Likes Fat Men Sitting on his face.

  • mike

    Fuck the Clintons. Minority people have suffered under them just like any of the other Presidents that have ruled this country. Bill Clinton is the one that signed that 3 strikes your out bill. Putting black people away in record numbers. America has the biggest prison population in the fuckin world. More than China, more than Darfur, and definitely more than any other European country. And another little policy that has been flying under the radar, but got passed with the 3 strikes your out bill, is the little clause that allows housing to throw a family out of they’re home if someone in that family catches a felony. So in other words a sickly grandmother who owns the house, can be thrown out if one of her grandchildren does something wrong. What the fuck is that? If that is not a form gentrification, I don’t know what the fuck is. I’m not for no laws that would help this government make it easier to displace the masses of poor. And that is what we have been living now for the past few years, and nobody on here cannot tell me that they do not see the effects these laws have had on black people, and minorities as a whole. All under the watch of the Clintons, and yet no other President, besides maybe Kennedy, has enjoyed so much of the black vote, and black support than the Clintons. Fuck the Clintons, that much is for sure. And this bitch Hillary voted for the war, a fabricated war, built on a lie. Right now there are young black americans, young white americans, young brown americans, and young yellow americans fighting over there, while we are on these internets, getting hands blown off, losing their feet, or just plain getting killed! 19 years old, 20 years old. And while they may be all different colors, alot of them share the fact that they come from poor families, and the lower economic scale of this country. Let’s be real, ain’t no rich people going to allow their children to go to war. So there are alot of people going to fight this war,not because they believe in the cause, but because they need paper. Clintons are not for black people, I don’t give a fuck if Bill Clinton has his offices on 125th street in Harlem. He done signed laws that help poor people get thrown out of their homes, and make it easier to throw poor folk into jail, so I really don’t understand how the Clintons enjoy so much support from poor people. Fuck em and the horse they rode in. He’s an adulterer, so you know he know how to lie, and she lives with an adulterer, so you know she know how to deny. That is not the characteristics that will make a good executive cheif, that is good to run the C.I.A., or FEMA or some shit, but not to run the country. All I can say, is trust me, I have a funny feeling that no matter who wins, black people, poor people, disenfranchised people is fucked from here on out. The new order is in effect, and has been in effect, and the Clintons had a hand in setting up the atmosphere that would help this new order.

  • willie

    BUD BUD BUD…
    HISPANICS AND ASIANS DIDN’T VOTE FOR OBAMA, NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE RACISTS AS YOU PUT IT MY YOUNG SIR, BUT BECAUSE THEY AREN’T IDIOTS. I THINK THATS A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT, MY YOUNG SIR. OBAMA HAS NO SUBSTANCE, HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY AND IS LACKING ALL SORTS OF EXPERIENCE, MY YOUNG SIR. HOPEFULLY THE REST OF THE NATION WILL WAKE UP ONE MORNING ( HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS NOMINATED) AND SMELL THE COFFEE, AND COME OUT OF THE BRAINWASHING BARACK OBAMA HAS BEEN DOING. ALL HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IS WAVE HIS HANDS IN THE AIR, SAY “HOPE” IS COMING, AND CLAIM HE IS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH RIDICULOUS THINGS WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION OF HOW HE WILL GO ABOUT IN ACCOMPLISHING AND RESOLVING CERTAIN ISSUES…

    BUT I MUST SAY, I DO LOVE A GOOD FIGHT, AND MY HAT GOES OFF TO HILLARY AND OBAMA…

    MAY THE CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST EXPERIENCE WIN.

  • Tha Weatherman

    Hey I live in denver co, and we have a lot more black people than you think. Probably not angry though.haha

  • Karl!

    “I’m pretty sure Obama is the Anti-Christ.

    With that said, I am still voting for him.”

    yo that’s exactly what i’m thinking.

  • nastynas

    jeff chang is such a joke

  • Redd

    fuck hilary clinton.