Leave Tavis alone

Black people on the Internets generally can’t stand me, but then what have I ever done for the black community, other than provide some evidence that there’s at least one of us who reads, writes, and thinks on a regular basis?

(To think, I though I was doing you assholes a service.)

Tavis Smiley, on the other hand, has put ridonkulous amounts of time and effort over the years into trying to uplift the black community – hosting some of the few radio and TV programs that have featured intelligent discourse on the issues that we face, writing books, hosting conferences and what have you.

But all he had to do was run afoul of the black community’s new golden boy, Barack Obama, and now look at his standing in the black community. The supposedly intellectual jigs over on The Root are going off on him as if he was the one who canceled Girlfriends. Just because he had the sheer balls to ask Barack Obama to show up to one of his conferences.

Obama said he couldn’t go, supposedly because he was down in Texas trying to convince Mexicans to vote their emotions and not their race. (Let that one sink in for a bit.) But I think it’s obvious the real reason he didn’t want to go is because he doesn’t want to associate with black people. Lest the Mexicans get the wrong idea about him.

The other day, there was a story in the New York Times called “Seeking Unity, Obama Feels Pull of Racial Divide,” which suggested that Obama was trying to unify the country by not associating with other black leaders; but I think it’s obvious to anyone with the sense god gave geese that his strategy all along has been to prove to white people that he’s not too black by throwing other black leaders under the bus.

Which is why, a year or so ago, he scheduled the event to announce that he was running for president on the same day as another one of Tavis Smiley’s conferences. Then he tried to play the shit off like, “How was I supposed to be there, when I was in Illinois kicking off my campaign for the presidency?” But you wonder if there ever would have been a time that he was free, especially now that he’s pulled this shit again.

The Times story also goes into how, back when there were some issues in the black community with regard to whether or not he was black, Obama would send his South Side of Chicago-bred, occasionally tactless wife to give speeches to black audiences, rather than actually showing up himself. Which is the same shit he tried to pull this time.

But Tavis Smiley wasn’t going for it. He was like, fuck that shit. If you feel it’s important enough to be here, bring your black (-ish) ass down here. But don’t be trying to send your wife in your place, like you’ve been doing all along. In fact, she can’t even come. She’s not invited. (Of course I’m paraphrasing, but he did say his wife couldn’t come.)

And I don’t blame him. People have tried to make it seem as if this was some sort of dick-measuring contest between Barack and Tavis (no homo), but this is the second time Obama has done this. And yet, the Senator managed to find time this year to kick it with seemingly every third cracka-ass cracka in Iowa.

In a blog post over at – again – The Root the other day, my boy jimi izrael suggested that Obama was in the right, in that black community should be beyond looking towards Civil Rights-style leaders at this point. But this issue doesn’t strike me as a matter of Tavis Smiley trying to play the Rebb’n Al n’ Jesse role.

To me, it seems like Tavis Smiley has got some concerns about the extent to which Barack Obama will be willing to advocate on behalf on the black community. And based on the way he keeps giving Tavis and other black leaders the shaft (nullus), I’d say he might be onto something. I know Barack Obama has made it a point in his campaign to note that he’s running for president of the entire country, not just the black community, but I wonder if that’s what the black community really needs at this point.

Back in the 1990s, when which ever one of these black authors called Bill Clinton the first black president, she was derided for suggesting that he was black just because he seemed black, when all he was doing was cutting off welfare, throwing black kids in jail in record numbers, and blowing the shit out of Africa. My fear is that an Obama presidency is just gonna be like another Clinton presidency. We’re gonna feel all warm inside, because he’s “black,” but what are we really gonna get from it? Nullus?

  • JAY STONE

    Tavis Smiley is gay
    Vote for obama!!!

  • I REIGN SUPREME

    First! LOL! Great post BOL – Highly relevant information in the Black Community!!

    • http://almostanexpert.com missile 6000

      Pretty shitty post actually. I find it rather amusing that Tavis wants Barack to drop everything and rush to his conference. I guess Obama is not too busy just doing that silly “presidential campaign” stuff. If Tavis was smart he would have had his conference coincide with some of the southern primaries, when Obama was campaigning in the area. Not a month later, then get upset because he can’t make it. Maybe the problem is that these so called black leaders are feeling a bit jealous and left out. None of them embraced his candidacy in the first place. They all thought Billary more qualified, or more likely to win. Now that he is doing it with catering to the old guards of the civil rights movement there a problem. Running around acting like you are only for black folk won’t get you elected in America.

  • I REIGN SUPREME

    Life is CHESS NOT CHECKERS. And when I say that I mean Barack is playing CHESS right now. He has accomplish more in a short amount of time than any of them reverands oR other black church going people have done in years, and the black community is still hating on him. If Barack was to attend the meeting with Travis he would have segregated himself from the rest of his followers, please UNDERSTAND BARACK IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE USA, which includes BLACKs, WHITES and a series of other races, by going to the Travis smiley meeting, he’s ignoring the other races. I think he’s a very smart man BY NOT ATTENDING THE MEETING.

    • Allen_J

      I cosign with you. I think that by going to this show or becoming the civil rights like leader he would eventually lose the support that he was originally trying to gain. And that may be white people, but as of right now white people (or crackass crakers) still run the world

  • Wesley Gibson

    Terrible analysis. At the end of the day B-Rock is running a legit national campaign with legit media sources. You don’t see white candidates having to show their face at every low budget news show in every town in america. If black people want to see their advocate they can look on CNN and be inspired just like everyone else. Tavis needs to sit down and Bol I think you’re with the terrorists.

  • Wells

    This is probably the most intelligent post of yours that I’ve ever read. However, I can’t help but wonder(and hope)if Obama is just playing their game by saying/doing what the majority of white voters would want i.e. distancing himself from other black leaders in order to calm their apprehensions and gain their support. Then once in office, we’ll all get our 40 acres and a mule. . . . or a Cadillac and gold fronts depending on your preference.

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  • The Spaniard

    Jimi’s right.

    Fuck a Tavis Smiley (on this issue at least).

    Obama’s has to play his cards right if he is going to pull this off (I still don’t see it happening) so Tavis, and the rest of the professional negros, need to play the background and follow suit.

    For the record, I’m not sure whether or not Tavis is doing anything of any lasting effect anyway…besides making his pockets fat from book sale royalties and I assume he isn’t hosting those television and radio shows for free either. I will reserve judgement on this issue until I find out if his writings are available, by Tavis himself, for free.

    The “black community” needs a leader who understands the purpose and power of the government to enable, protect, and defend it’s citizens on an fair & equal basis.

    What is Tavis proposing Barack should be an advocate for anyway? Probably some general bullshit he already supports anyway.

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      OK, so Tavis is a bad guy because he gets paid to do what he does. Is there anyone in the black community you would have approved of Obama going to meet with? Or is the issue that he shouldn’t be seen with any black people at all while he’s trying to win the election?

      I could see why that would be a good idea for Obama strategy-wise, but I’m at a loss for why the black community would even accept something like that to the extent that it has.

      The only explanation I can think of is the emotional impact of finally having a black candidate as a serious contender in a presidential election – and that strikes me as some ol’ Oprah Winfrey-type shit. So what if the guy’s black. We’re just coming off of 8 years with a black National Security Advisor, a black secretary of state and what have you.

      Do I need to run down the list of the issues facing the black community? It hasn’t even been three years since Hurricane Katrina. And the subprime lending crisis supposedly constitutes the single largest shift of wealth out of the black community since, like, slavery.

      So it’s not like we don’t have issues. He’s just been ducking black audiences because it wouldn’t be politically expedient for him to speak to them substantively. The guy’s playing a cynical numbers game, and the black community’s going right along with it. Based on emotion. At a time when it’s more important than ever that we actually act like adults.

      • The Spaniard

        “OK, so Tavis is a bad guy because he gets paid to do what he does.”

        I didn’t say that, although I can see how someone would infer that I meant that. I am of the opinion that if you are writing to help the people then make your wisdom available for free…as you do.

        “Is there anyone in the black community you would have approved of Obama going to meet with?”

        Someone who wouldn’t loss him support. I not saying that he would but obviously he’s doing something right.

        “The guy’s playing a cynical numbers game…”

        I agree and applaud him for playing the game the way it is setup and not playing how he wants it to be.

        “Do I need to run down the list of the issues facing the black community? ”

        Please do…and then explain how meeting with Tavis Simely is going to enlighten him on these issues (that he is, I assume, already aware of) and at the same time help him get elected.

        “It hasn’t even been three years since Hurricane Katrina. And the subprime lending crisis supposedly constitutes the single largest shift of wealth out of the black community since, like, slavery.”

        I see the these issues as social class problems. Racism has, in large part, contributed to the fact the blacks are disproportionally in the lower social classes but I addressed that also with the following…

        “The “black community” needs a leader who understands the purpose and power of the government to enable, protect, and defend it’s citizens on an fair & equal basis.”

        “He’s just been ducking black audiences because it wouldn’t be politically expedient for him to speak to them substantively.”

        Agreed.

        Personally, I don’t give a shit that Obama is black. Out of the candidates that are left he seems to be the one who lines up the most with my views. Not perfectly but close enough to merit my vote.

        I don’t give a shit what he does to get there as long as he champions the right causes and policies once he’s secured the office.

        My prefered candiates…

        Nader
        Kucinich
        Edwards
        .
        .
        .
        Obama

        The rest can all blow each other.

      • Beth

        “The guy’s playing a cynical numbers game, and the black community’s going right along with it. Based on emotion.”

        AMEN!

        And why? ‘Cause people just want a black(ish) face in the White House, no matter what?

        He’s using the black community, plain and simple. He figures he doesn’t have to work for black votes (then again, when has any Democrat thought he or she had to work for the black vote?).

  • The Spaniard

    Oh yeah…

    Vote Obama (like we have a better choice anyway!)

  • TheMailMan

    First off…Barack is not obligated to be on Tavis’ show just cause he is a black host!If Obama’s wife isn’t good enough for his show then F’ him.. That is what’s wrong with us! Barack is running for president to represent all people, not just black people. Tavis needs to realize that his show isn’t on CNN, Fox, etc. Barack must be on major broadcasts in order to compete for america’s attention. Tell Tavis to chill and wait in line…

    http://www.myspace.com/yelawolf

  • http://myspace.com/marko4aoc Marko-V

    I totally agree. It seems that I’ve been forced to question my own duty as a black man to vote for Obama when I’ve never really known about the dude. Now a couple of Jet covers and he’s the saviour of our race. I think whites are only going to vote for him because he’s black and they feel it justifies the acts of their ancestors. So in return blacks are going to vote for him just cause he’s black and it’s what we “should” do because we’ve been demanding it for so long. Look at Clarence Thomas. Sellout for life. How can I really vote for somebody who doesn’t fully acknowledge Hip-Hop? No sneakers in the VIBE article kinda killed ole boy n my eyes.
    Check me out on:
    http://www.myspace.com/marko4aoc

    • BIG O

      the funny thing is barack has tried to cater to the “hip hop”crowd.he even did some dumb ass half hour special on bet which he didnt have to.hes been seen meeting and hanging with rappers like ludacris and jay z.its one of those dumb ass damned if you do and damned if you dont things.bol you should be ashamed of yourself for buying into that garbage

  • render

    A nigga named Barack is gonna have a hard enough time getting in the white house without alienating uppity crackas that are only alright with black folks as long as they aint TOO black

    “My fear is that an Obama presidency is just gonna be like another Clinton presidency”

    So I’m guessing you’re voting republican….fuck outta here

  • http://lewco.net Audrey

    I have interviewed a lot of Black brothers, and 90% of them have been against Obama. Why? When are we going to realize that ‘HATING’ and ‘JEALOUSY’ hasn’t gotten us anywhere in this country. Every other race sticks together except us. Jealousy seems to be our motto. So unfortunate. Tavis is good people, but there will always be room for other intelligent Black folks. The old saying about “I was the ONLY Black…” or “I was the FIRST Black…” went out with the 60′s. Get over it! There are many good and intelligent Black folks around, so lets start supporting rather than hating.
    And remember that we ALL have some White or Indian in us, so don’t hate him for being bi-racial. Support him for being the strong and powerful young brother that he is.
    Your article is offensive, and it’s a crying shame that you couldn’t spend this time writing something more positive for our young children to read.

  • ireadwiki!(atleast)

    The word “race”, along with many of the ideas now associated with the term, were products of European imperialism and colonization during the age of exploration.

    That said (or cut and pasted), Indian or “reds” as they we so fondly called shortly after “contact” wld be the proper racial assignation for Mexicans, not white, as you so slyly imply. Descendants of Mayans (case u missed crazyassMel’s Apocolypto).

    Although Carribeans, who are descendants of slaves, Spanish-speaking slaveholders and natives indigenous to their islands (i.e. P.R., D.R. et al) lobbied long and hard to be folded into the new fandangled “race”, “Latino” (anything but Black!), Mexicans, who coincidentally live in states with Spanish names (California, Texas, Arizona)would in the old, racist, scientific system, be technically, regarded as “Indians.”

    But race is largely an invention. And a constantly shifting one at that. Nice try tho.

  • ri067953

    Yo, why waste time visiting the blaeks? We all know they don’t vote or can’t vote because they are conficted felons. He is using his time wisely, why show up at some conference where they will be discussing blaek issues? Becoming President means that he is responsible for the country, not just the problems of the blaek community. Lords knows, most of the issues facing blaek people can be solved without Barack showing up! In fact, most of the issues could be solved if the weed and cognac were put down and they picked up a book or two!

    • c. gabi

      I agree with BoL.

      And @ ri067953, you CAN vote if you are a convicted felon, you CANNOT if you are still “on paper”.

  • http://gepstangent.blogspot.com/ Gepedol

    YOU SILLY NEGRO! I gotta disagree with ya on this one homie and even worse, u have become my first victim. see the link below:

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  • http://hiphoponmymind.blogspot.com DJ Daddy Mack

    “In a blog post over at – again – The Root the other day, my boy jimi izrael suggested that Obama was in the right, in that black community should be beyond looking towards Civil Rights-style leaders at this point. But this issue doesn’t strike me as a matter of Tavis Smiley trying to play the Rebb’n Al n’ Jesse role.”

    I think that…
    One. People need to stop having their own agenda. We should unite.
    Two. Fuck these old ass Civil Rights leaders. We need a new Civil Rights Movement that unites everyone. We need new leaders. These old cats don’t know what its like for a young cat like me growing up in today’s world. Sure we can a long way, but we are shall behind because people wanna have their own agenda.
    I hope the my generation can and will make a difference cuz these old heads are fucking shit up.
    Three. Why are we all beefing? Why do Hispanics hate Blacks and vice versa? We face the same shit. We are both in the hood on welfare. We are both trying to get respect in the world. Why can’t we do it together? STOP BEING BITCHES AND UNITE.

    “Back in the 1990s, when which ever one of these black authors called Bill Clinton the first black president, she was derided for suggesting that he was black just because he seemed black, when all he was doing was cutting off welfare, throwing black kids in jail in record numbers, and blowing the shit out of Africa. My fear is that an Obama presidency is just gonna be like another Clinton presidency. We’re gonna feel all warm inside, because he’s “black,” but what are we really gonna get from it? Nullus?”

    I FEAR THE SAME SHIT U FEAR. I DON’T THINK THAT OBAMA CARES ABOUT THE HOOD CATS LIKE ME. THATS WHY I VOTED FOR EDWARDS. IM ONLY ROLLING WITH OBAMA CUZ SADLY I HAVE NO CHOICE (MCCAIN REALLY?). THIS TWO PARTY SYSTEMS KEEPS US DOWN. ITS A FORM OF SOME KING SHIT IF U ASK ME. AND VOTING DON’T MEAN SHIT ANYWAYS WITH THE RETARD FUCKING ELECTORAL COLLEGE BULLSHIT. DO I THINK THAT OBAMA WOULD BE A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN MCCAIN? YES. BETTER OVERALL? NO.

    AGAIN WE SHOULD BE UNITING TO GET OUR DEMOCRACY BACK. WE SHOULD BE UNITING TO FIGHT ALL HATE. THINK ABOUT THAT YA.

    • Beth

      DJ Daddy Mack,

      We need a new Civil Rights Movement that unites everyone. We need new leaders. These old cats don’t know what its like for a young cat like me growing up in today’s world. Sure we can a long way, but we are shall behind because people wanna have their own agenda.
      I hope the my generation can and will make a difference cuz these old heads are fucking shit up.
      Three. Why are we all beefing? Why do Hispanics hate Blacks and vice versa? We face the same shit. We are both in the hood on welfare. We are both trying to get respect in the world. Why can’t we do it together? STOP BEING BITCHES AND UNITE.

      Why would you keep doing the same things that aren’t working, then? Voting for Democrats, who take your vote for granted and play race-baiting games?

      You DO have a choice. (Yes, McCain, really.) It’s like you said, time for a new approach. Obama is just more of the same shit wrapped up in a prettier package. Nothing new under the sun with him, it’s the same tired “government knows what’s best for you folks” bullshit that takes power AWAY from you.

      • http://hiphoponmymind.blogspot.com DJ Daddy Mack

        the same thing would be voting for mccain. hes the next bush.

  • Dub Sac

    How about you go listen to the Gin Blossoms and stop acting like you yourself actually give a shit about black people.

  • shad

    BOL YOUR A FUCKING UNCLE TOM.

  • Fernando

    Tavis Smiley is a G.

    You could actually make a direct correlation with the demise of BET with the departure of the Tavis Smiley late night news/talk show. What the hell was BET thinking? “Lets remove our only smart show and replace it with re-runs of Moesha!”

    And to the point of Barack avoiding “black” sponsored events, I dont blame him. He actually has a real shot at making history and probably doesnt want to eff it up messing around talking about why black people cant get their sh!t together. Maybe if Tavis did a one on one piece of TV, but no kind of conventions or black town hall meetings would serve any purpose. Sh!t, Barack is already catching enough crap from conservatives just because he has a Pastor that speaks to a predominantly black church and they call him a “separatist” for preaching a black value system (whatever that is. Good Times?)

  • http://yahoo.com CaesarDuke

    Good post and if Barack obama does become president what are we gonna get from it? question of da day

    • Around and Around

      Answer of the day:

      ‘Satus Quo’

      ….so go vote for change!!!! SMH

  • mr.martin

    DJ DADDY MACK> newsflash. hood cats don’t care about hood cats like you either. Guys like Tavis , although I have huge respect for him, know exactly what he is doing. This is typical. If he wanted to bring light to the issues, he would invite a Clinton, Mccain and Huckabee as well, since any of those elected would have to be in charge of issues that affect Blacks.He would ask to be a panelist for nationally televised debates. What’s going on is tribalism, where they want Obama to get off his gameplan and give us preferential treatment by way of race. They are doing it knowing it’s a catch 22 and that it may cause controversy and be damaging. All these Black intellectuals know what they are doing and know that this will make them look better to the masses as really being for the people. And for dj daddy mack, you care about yourself. I have never heard or seen an American president that was truly for the people, so what’s to change now. Live your life

    • http://hiphoponmymind.blogspot.com DJ Daddy Mack

      Let me ask you a question: What can a hood cat do that can uplift his or her ppl? A whole lot and I’m an example of that. Please don’t speak for me with stuff like: “And for dj daddy mack, you care about yourself.” Cuz the fact is that this is not true at all. I care about society as a whole. This is why I mentioned unity over and over again. If people was to “Live [their] life,” nothing would happen. People would still hate others like its a dog eat dog world, which it is not.

      People are scared to put Presidents on the spot. They want to fight each other instead of uniting.

      Oh yea I aint knocking Tavis. I respect the man a lot. I just think people need to stop thinking about What can this Country do for me. They need to think about what can they do for the country.

  • icon

    (To think, I though I was doing you assholes a service.)

    Typos= self ether

  • b-ease

    I am fully aware that I am voting with my emotions. I have no illusion that Obama will focus anymore attention on the specific needs of Black-Americans than Bill Clinton did, hell, he might do less. Nobody that is actually electable is going to do shit. That’s just the way it works. But he’s Black. So fuck it, why not?

  • http://haterplayer.blogspot.com faker than fake

    geez you guys are such idiots. you guys say he needs to unite the country and represent EVERYONE. well that INCLUDES the black community. if he wants to unite everyone, he needs to address black issues AS WELL AS everyone else’s issues.

    basically you guys are saying it would be bad strategy to go to these black meetings and shit. well, what the fuck, what if it becomes bad strategy to represent the concerns of black americans at all? does that suddenly justify NOT representing their concerns? bol’s expressing a legit fear: if he’s gonna do whatever it takes to win and to maintain the presidency, what will he be sacrificing in the process?

    great post.

  • Allen_J

    Everyone’s basically saying let him get there first. After he gets there then he can “try” to help until then shit he’s a dream

  • moresickaMC

    I agree with Bol. Don’t give me that “strategy” nonsense…if Barack is ashamed to be seen in a black setting right now, then he will be ashamed of it when he is president.

    If him getting the presidency means he distances himself from the black community, then he can take a hike as far as I’m concerned. Last time I checked the Tavis Smiley Show isn’t some Black Panther sh&t and its on PBS. Charity begins @ home Obama, run away from your roots to gain something and you will lose everything. If America can’t handle him being on the Tavis show then that says more about America than anything.

  • master cheef

    i like rickey smiley, myself.

    *hi, my name lil darryl*

  • Da PartyStarter

    You know Bol, This IS the type of shit that has to be discussed. Kcuf Fat Joe, THIS is the proverbial”Elephant In The Room”…

  • Shawty J

    Okay, so let me get this right, Obama’s trying to get into the white house by separating himself from his race? While I can understand the method to his madness, I still wouldn’t consider it a wise move. If your own people feel like you’ve turned their backs on you, they may not support you.

  • Rizzop

    “That is what’s wrong with us! Barack is running for president to represent all people, not just black people”

    If you guys havent noticed that last uuum lets say 1000 years, the fuck you mean he doesnt have to rep black people??? ONE mutherfuckin negro EVER gets a sniff at running the country and he doesnt need to rep black folks? are ya’ll crazy? Yes, i agree he needs to get in touch with everyone, but the last 40+ presidents havent exactly been “pro- anyone of color”, so to say obama isnt THE single best chance to help people of color in this sorry excuse for a democracy is very,very naive to say the least. Shit i still want my life liberty and pursuit of happiness along with my 40 acres and a mule and not one president has given me chance at that, unless you call crack that (and we going right to jail that our taxes pay for after)

  • Rizzop

    And as for what can i do for this country…..SLAVES BUILT THIS FUCKING COUNTRY….for free, so yeah the one person that at least looks like us should fight for us. Unless you want to keep paying high gas prices, or help people make sure you move out the hood when they make the rent high as hell or better yet lets just keep everything the way it is…thats been working out just fine.

  • The Spaniard

    Obama is uniting with his race…the white genes that is.

    By the way, I just watch Tavis interview Obama on his show the other day. So much for him avoiding Mr. Smiley.

  • Tyler

    BoL, it looks like U are on the wrong side of the right issue once again my fat little 20 piece meal eating friend. Great comments from REIGN SUPREME also The Spaniard. I am with U guys on this subject. Mr. Smiley is playing himself right now. Shit, it ain’t like he is Oprah or something. He ain’t been hot for a minute or relavant. B Rock is the hottest thing in the streets right now next 2 a sexy whitebitch with a seriously phat ass or crackcocain. Once Obama gets in the whitehouse which he will he should pay Mr. Smiley and every hater like BoL he ever came within earshot a little visit. Meaning either slide thru with his secret service detail and ask all them 2 talk that shit 2 his face. Or he could send some of the off the books spooks to past thru in Black Helicopters. It is all about playin’ chess and right now ‘dat nigga B Rock is winning at the toughest game in the world. Where he is at is worst than the Drug Game so he has done well to make it this far and still be alive and every Black person should celebrate this fact. We all have earned this one in our own little way. So ride or die for this nigga. 2pac would. Biggie would. So what are U gonna do?

  • Tray

    Bol, blacks are never going to get a truly pro-black president until they’re no longer a small minority. I’m white, and I don’t want my taxes to get hiked so I can pay to fix your people’s schools, your mortgage crisis, or welfare, and I’m not really in favor of any big changes in our sentencing law. That’s not racism, that’s just self-interest, and most whites feel the same way. Since we are still the majority in this country, how do you expect a truly pro-black-interests guy to win? Obama’s as close as you’ll get. 40 years from now, whites will no longer be the majority and American politics will be very different. For now, I’m afraid symbolic change will have to do.

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      Jews are an even smaller minority than black people, and I don’t seem them having any problems wielding their influence on our government.

      And as far as your little self-interest argument, I bet every candidate you ever vote for will support the Zionist cause at the expense of your self-interest.

      But black people who actually live in this country can’t even get a fair loan?

      • Tray

        Jews have no problem wielding influence because their interests don’t really come into conflict with non-Jews’ interests. Also because we’re well off. As a Jew I don’t really have any specific political interests – Israel isn’t a big deal to me, but it doesn’t come at non-Jews’ expense. Most people outside the black community would admit that Israel’s a necessary bulwark against total Arab control of the region. You can believe that we’re in Iraq because of Israel if you want, but that’s really all full of shit.

  • Script

    I’m not sure if anybody watched the speeches after the primaries Tuesday…but all I saw was black people filling up a rally for Obama in Houston…whoever said that about Tavis Smiley’s show not being on a major network is correct..I think if Obama gets elected he’ll show him some love…and am I the only person who caught that line about mexicans thinkin they’re white that shit is true they can blend in anywhere they want to try and bitch about illegals, I’ve never seen anything about a hate crime being committed against a mexican

  • Da barbarian

    b-ease, you defined the matter better than anyone else commenting on the matter.

    Obama being elected would be symbolic as Hell, but those “Romanticizing” this cat to death, or expecting some sort of “Revolution”, are going to be bitterly disappointed.

    He’ll be a President with a Liberal stamp just like the Clintons, and things will bang along as they have always banged along.

  • AJG Da Aviator

    It took yo azz awhile but u finally done Bol! Interesting blogpost. As for me, I have no comments, simply put(and im not ashamed to say this)politics doesnt interest me.

  • Youngz

    SERIOUSLY, WHY do people call Obama a BLACK candidate..? Hes mixed, was raised by his white mother and white grandparents, hes from a cracka up bringing, he went to harvard, STOP calling him black.

    Anyways, he is the best candidate, fuck Hilary!

    • lookadeez

      What rock have you been hiding under since, say, JIM CROW asshole?!

      Barack, mixed as he is, don’t pass the paperbag test. He was informed of that fact as a young boy. He has ben putting in work in the skreets of the CHI for umpteen years dude, wake up. He’s addressed ALL of the issues that we claim to be concerned with.That’s Black enough for me.

      Read the whole article that you keep skimming through and really get the whole picture before you type stupidity

    • these posters are idiots

      LMAO@Youngz

      So somehow a Harvard education detracts from dude’s “blackness”?

      Wow.

    • Impulse 187

      So wait. Just because he has a Harvard Degree and maybe grew up in the suburbs makes him “Not black enough”?
      Are you fucking serious?
      Just cus he doesnt slang, has an education, doesnt sell drugs or some shit, hes automatically not black?
      Get your shit together. YOU are fuckin up everything everyone has been fighting for.
      Just cus he set himself up for a good future, and you didnt does not make him any less of a man, or any less black.
      Black is just a skin color, no more, no less. It’s how you go along with it which determines who you are. not cus he has a white mother. you better learn some shit you ignorant retard.

  • lookadeez

    Bol, the biggest hole in your dumbass devils advocate argument is the fact that Tavis himself is bucking against the hopes and desires of the black community by going against Barack at this time. You fear that Barack may be like the Clinton years, when he’s going against a CLINTON in the primary, and MCCAIN in the election.

    You just sit around and wonder what you can think of next to sound like you A) merit your tiny blogger paychecks and B) give two shits about yor beloved back community.

    Tavis is making the major mistake that his predecessors made before him: he is now feeling himself, and thinks he speaks for all of us, despite the overwhelming evidence of the will of the people. I like Tavis, but he’s fucking up here and everyone but him can see it, cuz he’s drunk with his litle ‘COVENANT” POWER.

  • FLIP

    “I know Barack Obama has made it a point in his campaign to note that he’s running for president of the entire country, not just the black community, but I wonder if that’s what the black community really needs at this point.”

    Regardless of their actual intentions, no one would be stupid enough to run on a front to uplift the black community. It’d be a gauranteed loss.

  • Dizzy

    Bol, I see your point, but it’s weak. Obama is doing what he’s supposed to be doing. Showing up at Tavis’ little shindig would be nothing more than ammo for the opposition. As you noted and Obama has said before, he’s running for President of the country, not for president of black people. We already have to many fake a$$ people trying to so-call lead the black people. Your article brings nothing new to this issue. If Tavis is so concerned about the state of the black people, then have his A$$ come to Detroit and help mobilize people here, if not…who give’s a shyt about what Tavis’ thinks about this particular issue. By the way, this is Tavis’ party, so don’t get it twisted like Tavis doesn’t have his own agenda.

    Trivial bullyshyt

  • DETROIT

    I understand exactly what Bol is saying. i also understand the people who disagree. That being said…BOL IS RIGHT ON! if he has to ignore us to get into office, then why wouldn’t he ignore us while in office? it’s all about politics right? do you think he’s gonna steer away from all black causes on the road to the white house, but then as soon as he gets in flip the script. Bol is correct, clinton had niggas on this same shit, but in reality he was doing us as bad as anyone before him. the thing is, if he doesn’t address black issues, then he should be viewed in the same light as everyother candidate, color should not be an issue either way….meaning, you should not vote for him just because he’s black if he’s not gonna address any black issues. DEVILS COME IN ALL COLORS! and throught history, the white man has always sent blacks to destroy other blacks as far back as slavery.

  • okay

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-09-13-tavis_N.htm

    Tavis didn’t only come down on Barack, he speaks out on any candidate that doesn’t show up at his conferences.

  • datroof

    Bol ain’t right on sh1t! There is a time and place for everything. Tavis like anyone, understands this. Obama man has a chance to make history, and Tavis wants him to take time off of the close campaign trail to come to one of his PBS pickininny conferences? Lets be real, none to few of you were gonna watch it, any dam way. All you do is make whites remember why they never wanted us in office in the first place. This is whats called “grandstanding” on Tavis’ part. Sit down somewhere, fix your kool g rap lisp, and wait until the brother is elected. Then hold all the conferences, u want. What is Tavis gonna “save” us from him by “exposing” him? No thanks, Obama knows he’s black enuff and is doing fine w/o u, jesse, al and the like.
    Tavis exhibited black crab syndrome, and he will have to account for it shortly. People, dont do anything to this brother that you dont do to the white candidates! Once Obama
    gets in office, he can do all he wants for blacks, till then sit down and wait.

    As for you Bol, if people from all walks of life despise you, that should be a prime indication that you are outta touch bro. Obama was in Iowa, where Hil was. And he won it. What would he have gained for kicking it with Tavis during that time? Are you really that stupid, Bol, to post this drivel? Throwing the black leaders under the bus? They (jesse, al, tavis, ect)had each other, when Obama was unheard of, and nobody could get elected. BO gets the closest, alone, and now, everyone wants to give advice or host debates. I would expect your stiff pseudo white boy a#$ to understand this more than most. Half the brothers cant even vote! If u r real B, explain to the board, what our options would be, if not Barack.. Mc Cain? Hil? If he wont listen, nobody will. 43 other white presidents proved that. So BO is the man. Is Tavis on team Hillary or something? Or whats Tavis’ strategy? “Since he won’t come, let me help get Hil elected”? Screw the overwhelming populace. Tavis and our old guard hillary senators know best… lol

    p.s. if obama wins your district, (ATL) and an old school John Lewis/Sheila Jackson like dude/lady, uses their super delegate, for the opposite candidate.. vote their OLD a@#es out!

  • yodel234

    test

  • South City

    Some of the stupidity in this comment section is fuckin’ astounding. It seems that some here are so stuck on that pro-black shit that they can’t see the forest for trees, nor have the capicity for rational thought. As has been echoed many times, this shit is chess, not checkers. Has it ever occured to some of you numbnuts that the strategy of a black candidate showin’ preferential treatment to other black people in a political environment that is already adversarial to black people is Presidential campaign suicide? The fact is that we are still a minority in this country, 13% of the population if I’m not mistaken. He absolutely can not afford at this time to alienate the base that he has fought so hard to win the favor of. The margin of error that the Obama campaign has is minimal, if any at all.

    With that said, don’t make it seem like Obama is some Alan Keyes Uncle Ruckus ass nigga. Dude put in some serious time in the streets of the Chi as a civil rights attorney. And anybody with the intelligence that God gave a postage stamp knows that with his Harvard education, G coulda made an ass can of money. Bein’ a civil rights attorney in one of the shittiest hoods in America (Shout out to 95th and Woodlawn!)is takin’ a substantial pay cut.

    Tavis Smiley is an intelligent cat, but it seems as if Tavis Smiley is too concerned with Tavis Smiley. This shit is bigger than him and his agenda. We’re talkin’ about a black man bein’ “leader” of the free world. Now let that man do what he has to do to get there.

    • these posters are idiots

      Word, Southside!

      43rd and Indiana all day (sorry had to get that out of my system).

  • DETROIT

    so can some one explain one thing to me….what is the point of having a black president if he doesn’t represent black issues? How will it help us as a race? How would we benefit, other than white people saying that racism no longer exists! also, has obama been to new orleans yet? he talks more about iraq than he does terroism that is happening in HIS country to HIS people!

    shit’s crazy man!

  • Tray

    And as for the subprime lending crisis, I think this. Of course the people involved need to be punished and there needs to be way more strict regulation of deceptive lending practices. I don’t think Obama would disagree with that. However, if it becomes a thing where you want the government to subsidize poor black people getting credit that they couldn’t otherwise get, that’s not something I’m going to be for.

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      >Jews have no problem wielding influence because their interests don’t really come into conflict with non-Jews’ interests.

      You can’t be serious.

  • datroof

    South City, you ate there man!

    Barack! Stop your campaign,cuz DETROIT is not impressed. Lets vote for Hil because Detroit feels BO has never been to N.O. or because he is not addressing “his people”!! No, quit because “we will lose the “race card” if u win. You are buggin! What are you a KKK/Hillary plant, or something?

    can some one explain one thing to me….what is the point of having a black president if he doesn’t represent black issues?

    (How old are you 16? Read South Citys post too!)

    1. it makes history: gives young brothers a higher goal to aspire to.

    More importantly, now is not the time to find out either. How do I know? Because if BO were not in the race, and it were 2 white guys. You’d be home playing with ur game cubes and your uncut “man WII”. And not asking these stupid a#$ questions

    2. The reason you wouldnt is because Tavis’ lazy tongue ass would never invite the 2 white candidates, cuz he KNOWS they would NEVER come to his all black forum. Thus, you wouldnt be on Tavis’ meat, and collectively, yall would have nobody black to try to pull back down in the barrel with you crabs.

    Got a question for you… Why now? You didnt hear a peep outta Tavis when Bush was stealing the election, not visiting the NAACP, nor for getting them audited for supporting his rival. Didnt see you blogging about it either.

    SO now the brother is running and doing well, and your wannabe objective a#$ wanna think you are asking the question of the day?

    2. How will it help us as a race?

    Honestly, even if it doesnt, how have the other white presidents done by you? You sound so silly, partly because I know you werent asking these same questions of Bush, or Clinton. You act like past presidential treatment of blacks even warrant the discussion of whether or not the brother is the one to take a chance on this time. Did you know that under the clintons, you lost the ability to get financial aid 4eva if you got caught and plead to poss of a dime sack of chronic? The brother has to prove to me, he would do us crusty like the “1st black pres, Bill”

    Qualified as any of the white candidates, and black… Even if he doesnt listen, he “looks” like the one that would listen most. Its a chance I am gonna take… 44 more times if it presents itself. Time for a change, he’s got my vote. Its his race to lose, in my eyes.

    • DETROIT

      1. actually, i’m 30 years old, have a masters degree, make 70+ per year, and have never supported any of the other candidates you have mentioned. These elections are a joke, that’s my point…black, white, or other. and if you don’t deal with the REAL issues, you ain’t shit…black or white!

      2. “it makes history: gives young brothers a higher goal to aspire to.”

      aspire to be a fake ass nigga that doesn’t acknowledge his people? if he were mexican, would he avoid mexicans? only blacks are capable of these types of actions, because we have been robbed of our culture! Lastly, they can aspire to be like Fred Hampton or Marcus Garvey…a title don’t mean shit…real is real!

  • iliveonce

    Here’s a problem with the BLACK COMMUNITY; we never unite over anything. I LIKE TAVIS SMILEY AND BARACK OBAMA AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE ALL GAVE THE FIRST !! THE FIRST BLACK MAN TO GET THIS CLOSE TO BEING THE PRESIDENT A CHANCE TO GET NOMINATED!!!… LET HIM FUCK UP AFTER BEING NOMINATED….LOOK WE HAVE HAD 40 PLUS WHITE ASSOLES AS A PRESIDENT AND LOT OF YOU UNCLE TOMS VOTED FOR THEM!! LIKE BUSH.. WE NEVER HAD A BLACK PRESIDENT!! GOOD OR BAD! YOU AIN’T FUCKING PERFECT why do you want a perfect president… encouraging him and let him grow..we always tear each other down before we get anywhere..