And The Winner Of Producer Of The Year is….

Who watched the Grammys last night? Mark Ronson’s name came up a couple of times, he was obviously sitting pretty close to the front row. Plus Kanye West literally spoke to him from the podium, so every Kanye fan who never heard of Mark probably googled him two seconds later. Then he was announced, toward the end of the show, to have won the award for Producer of the Year, non-classical, which if I’m not mistaken, was an honor bestowed upon Rick Rubin last year. He went on to become the Co-Chairman of Columbia Records. Go figure.

This is not an “I Hate Mark Ronson” post. I actually think the dude is a pretty good producer, a good DJ, and having talked to him a few times, just an all round good guy. He even works with some pretty good rappers (Wale, Rhymefest) and some pretty good singers (Amy Winehouse, Lily Allen, Daniel Merriweather). So all is well in the world of Mark Ronson.

But are you seriously going to tell me that he had a better year than Timbaland? I can’t cosign that. Not only did Timbaland completely give pop music a make-over, he subsequently changed the entire direction of urban music in the process. Now you’ve got all these goofy r&b singers trying to make pop records. And every hip-hop producer sounds like they’re making wannabee Tim/Danjahandz beats. In one fell swoop of an MPC, traditional rap music has been made irrelevant. Keep your mid-tempo 808s and 2-finger synthesizer melodies. If Nas said hip-hop was dead, Timbaland put the nail in its coffin, from a sonic standpoint, that is.

I guess you could argue that Tim produced fewer records that actually came out in 2007, and Mark Ronson did do “Rehab” and “You Know I’m No Good” for Wino…err, Winehouse, and “Littlest Things” for Lily Allen. But nobody I know, and maybe i’m just a fucking weirdo, gave a shit about that Lily Allen joint, and Timbaland’s “The Way I Are” was a much hotter record to me than either of those Winehouse joints. Salaam Remi did a major chunk of that album too, why doesn’t anyone bring his name up?

Mark Ronson’s album of remakes, Version, vs. Timbaland’s Shock Value?

20 cool points to anyone who can tell me a song off that Version album.

  • Trey Stone

    Mark Ronson winning Producer of the Year + Herbie Hancock winning Album of the Year = cranky old men Grammys.

    • Fire

      Ain’t that the truth? Thought for sure they would have given it to Kanye to avoid a tantrum.

      • Cassius

        Screw you young niggas. Hancock is a guy that Kanye only dreams about sampling. Just cause his moms departed don’t mean he need to win the award out of sympathy. I’m sure he (should be) good with the 3 awards he did win

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  • Pierzy

    I never even knew that Ronson had an album out this year…and I’m white!

  • http://www.myspace.com Flo

    The only song that i knew he did 4sure was that joint with Daniel Merriweather called stop me. They had a video for it too. Guess it didnt get much play.

    Timbo Really did do his thing this yr, I was really expecting him to win. If it was kanye in Timbo’s positon that nigga woulda threw a fit.
    hehe I guess I get the cool Pointz!

    Get like me

  • blanquito

    valarie by amy winehouse on the versio album

  • http://www.myspace.com/big_dee_el Dee_el

    Word,

    I can’t front, the Mark Ronson album “Version” had {some} heat. My only complaint is that all the songs sounded almost identical. For real, from Valerie to Stop Me (if you heard this before). It wasn’t a bad album but it wasn’t that great. I think they gave him the shake for the work on the Wino record. I agree with your question about Salaam Remi. Dope shit.

  • Bmo

    Mark Ronsons Version is WAY better than timbos shock value
    My fave song is LSF and Valerie from that one.. the production is just top notch. The singles on Shock value have polished production and are actually pretty good, but the sub-par rock collabs and some straight up horrible tracks keep it from being a good album as a whole. Timbaland has changed urban music, and maybe he deserved to win over Mark Ronson on that merit alone.. but how good would lily allen or Amy winehouses albums been without his amazing production?

    lily allens album, is the perfect pop CD.. North american acts like Beyonce, Britney Spears and Ciara should definitely take note.

    20 cool points for me

  • yo

    Toxic (version revisited) Nice job throwing that Ol’ Dirty verse on that
    Oh my God ft lilly allen. ( nice kaiser cheifs reamke AND shouts to wale being in the video)
    Valerie ft Amy winehouse ( very good song. good to see her whoop ass at the Grammy)

    Shall I keep on?
    I bought it the day it came out.
    What Hip Hop heads cant listen to that type of thing? Please
    Better luck next time

  • bonen

    i first heard of him through his DJing background in NYC, his first album had some dope stuff like that song with Ghostface and Nate Dogg oooh weeee, and that mosdef/mop joint, from what i remember there isnt even any rap stuff on his new album, i think there was a busta rhymes guest verse to “oh my god remix”

    i dont understand how he is all of sudden producer of the year, rehab wasnt even a top 5 chart song, although it was record of the year at the grammys.

    btw mark ronson was also instrumental in discovering the rapper Saigon

  • winkie

    Mark Ronson’s productions were far more sophisticated than Timbaland’s this year..not sure if it was just the production or that fact that Amy Winehouse is one hell of a song writer, but I honestly knew for a fact he would win when I heard he was nominated..
    p.s. the fact that everyone copies a producer’s style doesn’t mean he/she should automatically become producer of the year much less that their sound is sonically superior to others,,it could probably be due to the fact that everyone copies Timbaland no matter what he does (big suprise there),,or maybe it’s because Timbaland’s sound was way easier to copy than Ronson’s this year, which incorporated more complex arrangments and live instrumentation,,his shit sounded less “for the moment” than most

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  • lukee lefty

    the Mark Ronson song i know of is called ‘stop me’ i actually thought it was dope….that being said im not a big Timbo fan since he made excercise music but i suppose he prolly should’ve one it

  • ship

    timbaland sold out let’s be honest here…the guy hasnt produced a god HIP HOP songin years…at least mark ronson sticks to hip hop and some soul shit

  • treats

    Anyone that works with 50 Cent is guilty by association in the eyes of the farts at the RIAA. “Ayo Technology,” was the nail in Tim’s coffin. Sorry Gooch.

  • http://myspace.com/sbwanddonp Chris Newberry

    Yo, Timbo had a good year, but Shock Value sucked as an entire LP. Mark Ronson took a relatively unknown singer and made her a household name(AND NOW SHE IS A DRUNK HUSSY, a clear sign of success!LOL). He is also doing his thing with Rhymefest and they ain’t even sell that shit. Don’t front on Ronson! And I will scream if someone brings up record sales. Not saying I validate the Grammy’s. On the contrary, the Grammy Awards are just a glorified popularity contest. But ever so often they get something right. Hey, atleast fifty ain’t get no awards!LOL

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  • Gooch

    I’m not saying Ronson sucks or anything, read the post. I said i like the guy. I fuck with his music.

    I really just don’t think he did much on either of those Lily Allen or Winehouse albums. Rehab he apparently co-produced with Salaam Remi, who did like the whole album. And lily allen, he did 1 song and a remix!

    Come on…

  • patkilpat

    Mark is cool I liked “Here Comes the Fuzz” (or whatever its called), but yeah I’d find it hard not to say Timbo and Danja did there thing. What about Ye hmm? He had a couple of co-producers Mark may have had some too I haven’t checked the notes yet.

    Actually when I heard he won I was like what? Oh he probably produced Winehouse. So yeah, I wouldn’t have gone with that.

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  • Trey Stone

    someone said Timbo makes “exercise music?” the fuck? lol

    as for the whole two-note retardasynth thing in the original post, i guess you got a point there, but i’d tend to blame the influenced more than the influenc…er in this case. don’t think you were implying Timbo’s beats sucked, but just saying.

    now i just want The Neptunes to make a comeback. healthy competition if ya will. and those two N.E.R.D. albums are dope and hilarious so hopefully this new one’ll be good

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  • beatz23

    “Salaam Remi did a major chunk of that album too, why doesn’t anyone bring his name up?”

    ….because Salaam Remi ain’t white

    • winkie

      maybe because that was the only solid effort that salaam was recognized for last year

      ever thought of that?

      you obviously don’t know shit about the grammy’s
      ..it’s about output as opposed to a popularity contest or favoritism..besides actual artists vote for nominees to some extent..bet you didn’t know that

  • KN

    I’m sorry but I can’t agree with this article.

    Mark Ronson did an amazing job on both Amy and his own record. Not taking anything away from Timbaland, but his sound was something of a 15 mins of fame that will eventually die a terrible death. It sounds like plastic, and was just WAY too over used with Justin, Nelly Furtardo and his own album.

    Ronson created something timeless with artists that may have not been as well known as those that Timabaland worked with.

    Listen to Versions as a whole album, its amazing, the drum breaks are crazy, the use of the brass band is amazing, something that will live on for a long time.

    As for naming songs of Versions, have you heard Stop Me and Valerie? Absolutely amazing tracks

  • Tyler

    Fellas, sorry but yea’ the Grammy heads got this one right. I mean for being able to keep that CrackHead Amy Whino up right long enuff to record a whole album he should have gotten an award for that fact alone. Not 2 mention her album is hot 2 def, top to bottom and it’s different. What a chance he took by making it sound like that sonicily. Tim is just a beat guy. Not a great producer. He ain’t done a hot album top to bottom since Ginuwine’s 1st album or Aaliyah’s 1st album which the real word is he didn’t do those album alone it was some other cat behind the scenes name Robert Reives giving them that extra flavor that made it real hot but Tim took the credit. . Dat dude worked wit Jodeci too, not Tim.

  • http://reverbnation.com/klasick klasick

    this some bullshit from nelly furtado to justin timbo been blazing fire fock the granny

  • http://xXLMAG jb-da b.stuy reppa

    R.Kelly did Aaliyah’s 1st album. Not Timbo. However he did deserve to win the award. Who been in the top 20 and on radio more then timbo this year. Not just for hip hop but r&b too. Who the hell votes for these awards. lol!!!

  • GAZM

    version shat on shock value, n Ronson produced 6 tunes on Amy’s albub, remi did 4… sure timbo destroyed radio. but ronson produced a better range of ish

  • GAZM

    nah, version shat on shock value, n Ronson produced 6 tunes on Amy’s albub, remi did 4… sure timbo destroyed radio. but ronson produced a better range of ish

  • andrew

    Do you have any actual evidence as to how Timbaland put the ‘nail in the coffin’ besides his piece of shit album, Shock Value? Timbaland was more revolutionary ten years ago when he was producing for Missy and himself. Dont make generalized statements unless you have actual proof.

  • London Boy

    if you’ve ever been to a party where mark ronson is deejaying then you know he’s a coke head too

  • ak-47

    mark ronson is good but timbo been doin this 4 at least ten years makin hits so i vote timbo

  • killa hills

    “stop me” daniel merriweather was my joint and winehouse’s “valerie” was the shit too. but i see your point…plus where was salaam remi in all of this? was he even there? susty homes…susty.

  • CMoney

    Timbaland has always done his thing, but 2006 was a wayyyyyyyy better year for him. Both the Justin Timberlake & Nelly Furtado which has some of Timbaland’s/Danjahandz best work. He did his thing in 2007, but Mark Ronson really did his thing in 2007. Granted, the Back To Black originally came out in the UK in 2006, but didn’t come to the US until February 2007. That is one of the best albums I’ve heard in a long time & there have been many great albums. Amy Winehouse is to singing, what Eminem is/was to rapping. If ya’ll don’t believe me, look online & download the “Back To Black” instrumentals. Listen to it carefully & you’ll see why he won Producer Of The Year. Plus, the album actually use real instruments, which is always better.

    2006 = Timbaland’s year
    2007 = Mark Ronson’s year
    2008 = Up for grabs

    Shoutout to Salaam Remi who also did some work on Back To Black! 8-)

  • tone dibiase

    i guess + 20 cool points for me.

  • NIG

    IM A PRODUCER/MUSICIAN AND A MEMBER ……MARK RONSONS YEAR WAS GOOD ALSO TIMBO HAD AN INCREDIBLE YEAR BUT MARKS PROJECTS WON THE MOST GRAMMYS SO THE WAY THEY VOTE SOME OF THEIR PREVIOUS VOTES HOLD A LITTLE WEIGHT FOR THE OTHER.. ITS A STUPID SYSTEM BUT THATS HOW IT WORKS…. THIS YEAR ME AND MY MUSIC GROUP BOYCOT THE GRAMMYS…

  • Boat Ride

    what’s sophisticated about Mark Ronson’s production? biting Holland-Dozier-Holland? wtf Elvis ass nigga, Tim’s stuff wasn’t so original but I don’t get the hype over Mark Ronson or that basehead Winehouse

  • Tyler

    February 12th, 2008
    at 1:30 am

    jb-da b.stuy reppa says:

    R.Kelly did Aaliyah’s 1st album. Not Timbo

    My bad. I meant Aaliyah’s 2nd album which Tim didn’t do ‘dat by himself he just got most of the credit for it.

  • trikdd

    Who watched the Grammys last night? Mark Ronson’s name came up a couple of times, he was obviously sitting pretty close to the front row. Plus Kanye West literally spoke to him from the podium, so every Kanye fan who never heard of Mark probably googled him two seconds later. Then he was announced, toward the end of the show, to have won the award for Producer of the Year, non-classical, which if I’m not mistaken, was an honor bestowed upon Rick Rubin last year. He went on to become the Co-Chairman of Columbia Records. Go figure.

    This is not an “I Hate Mark Ronson” post. I actually think the dude is a pretty good producer, a good DJ, and having talked to him a few times, just an all round good guy. He even works with some pretty good rappers (Wale, Rhymefest) and some pretty good singers (Amy Winehouse, Lily Allen, Daniel Merriweather). So all is well in the world of Mark Ronson.

    But are you seriously going to tell me that he had a better year than Timbaland? I can’t cosign that. Not only did Timbaland completely give pop music a make-over, he subsequently changed the entire direction of urban music in the process. Now you’ve got all these goofy r&b singers trying to make pop records. And every hip-hop producer sounds like they’re making wannabee Tim/Danjahandz beats. In one fell swoop of an MPC, traditional rap music has been made irrelevant. Keep your mid-tempo 808s and 2-finger synthesizer melodies. If Nas said hip-hop was dead, Timbaland put the nail in its coffin, from a sonic standpoint, that is.

  • b-ease

    Salamm should get more credit for the Amy album (even though Mark did the more popular songs) and more credit in hiphop in general for The Fugees and Nas’s God’s Son (Nas’ most underrated album).

    With that being said, I can see the argument for Tim over Ronson, but to say that Mark didnt deserve is crazy. The Lily Allen album was dope as fuck, Winehouse’s is a future classic, and what I heard of Version was damn good.

    Alot of Shock Value just…sucked.

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  • bklyn2cali

    Dilla should’ve been on the ballot and won the award.
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  • Trey Stone

    let’s be honest, Shock Value‘s way better than people’re saying. the first six tracks are pretty much flawless — gives ya every individual angle of each Timbo “sound,” if you will. i could’ve done without about half of the rock “experiments,” but otherwise, shit was hot.

    and people are faking not liking “Bounce.” really now.

  • Trey Stone

    as for the kid saying Timbo was taking credit for other people’s work from day one. first, the fact that none of his supposed “ghost producers” other than Danjahandz (who’s been credited with him on everything they’ve worked on) have a career should be telling. second, plenty of hip-hop producers who don’t sample have instrumentalists. Storch and The Neptunes are the only two big exceptions i can think of.

  • http://brandonsoderberg.blogspot.com brandonsoderberg

    This is a pretty dopey conversation, but if one is going to suggest Timbaland’s style is less “Creative” or whatever-ive than Ronson’s…well, ‘Version’ is a COVERS album- ‘Stop Me’ is a cover of a Smiths song- that was undoubtedly a cash-in on his Winehouse production, which you know is this purposeful throwback sound that Grammy types love. Ronson’s “production” is the musical equivalent of Urban Outfitters’ fake vintage Ts…and I don’t even really like Timbo!

  • http://polytechnicofnamibia,com westcoast

    timbo was the best overall producer since he producers for jt, nelly faturdo, paula dianda and even fifties hit ayo technology, so i think the gramy’s suck big time and they r only for whites, stupid bastards

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