Moment of Truth

In the past year or so, I’ve spent quite a bit of time discussing the upcoming presidential election, and hopefully I’ve been able to make a few of you that much more interested in the political process, if only for your own personal amusement – not so much because you think you can have any real effect on the system.

Because I’m not sure how much of an effect any of us can really have on anything, especially voting for either of the two major parties in one of these elections.

Take for example the Iowa Caucus, which is going on as we “speak.” Retarded though it may be, the Iowa Caucus is as important as shit. In 2004, it completely changed the course of the primaries and all but sealed the fate of humanity.

Going in, Howard Dean looked like the guy to beat. But then he came in second place or whatever and made himself look like a complete fucking nutjob. Which had the effect of making John Kerry, whom hardly anyone was particularly passionate about, seem way more electable. He got the nomination and, a few months later, more or less handed the presidency right back to his old Skull and Bones bro from college, President Sieg Howdy.

As important as they are though, I wouldn’t be surprised if hip-hop had literally no effect at all on the Iowa Caucus. As has been discussed in the press leading up to tonight, the average participant in the Iowa Caucus is white and middle-aged, if not older. Only about 2.5% of the state’s population is black, and probably not very many of them will be participating. Which is of course hardly representative of the nation as a whole.

Having gone to college out near the Missouri-Iowa border, and having spent the past few years corresponding with people from all over the place, I know a few young people from Iowa and even a few hip-hop heads, though no actual black people. However, I don’t recall any of them mentioning anything about going to caucus night. What about you fruits? By chance, are any of you from Iowa? And if so, are any of you headed to a high school gymnasium tonight?

The black (-ish) candidate might still scratch out a win anyway, to hear the polls tell it. And who are we even kidding? It’s not like the bulk of the support for Barack Obama is coming from black people, even in states that actually have black people. I’ve already broken down for you fruits elsewhere on this site how black women and the black political establishment aren’t necessarily riding with the senator heading into the primaries.

Jesse Jackson, for example, has yet to offer much in the way of support (at all), though I’m not sure what his official stance is at this point. And Al Sharpton, as recently as the other day, said he’s waiting until South Carolina, at which point he’s throwing his support to either Hillary Clinton or John Edwards. So not only is he not supporting Barack Obama, but he’s actively trying to throw Obama under the bus in a state he can’t afford to lose. Damn.

Other interesting endorsements:

-Ralph Nader, whom many accuse of spoiling the 2000 election for the Democrats, and who’s become somewhat of a pariah on the far-left, has endorsed John Edwards, presumably (based on his comments) to spite Hillary. For what it’s worth though, John Edwards (now that he wants something) is beginning to sound more and more like Nader circa ’04.

-In 2004, Dennis Kucinich threw his support to John Edwards after losing in Iowa, which had the effect of making a lot of the people who campaigned for him wonder why they bothered in the first place. And now this year he’s made the bizarre decision to sort of preemptively concede defeat and throw his support to Barack Obama, rather than John Edwards.

-Rounding out the trifecta of liberals who are actually liberal, Michael Moore basically said fuck all three of the leading Democrats headed into Iowa. He supported Hillary in the past, partly because he wanted to bang her, but now he’s pissed at her votes for the Iraq War and her being in the pocket of the health care system. And he says Obama is hardly better.

As wacky as these caucuses can be, it’ll be a while before we know what went down, and it might be a while still before we know what it all means. Barack Obama might win and it might not mean a whole lot, since, as I mentioned before, Iowa is hardly representative of the country as a whole. Or it could be a situation like in ’04 where one night ends up fucking someone’s whole shit up. For the sake of my own personal amusement, I hope it is.

Either way, like I said, the Iowa Caucus is fucking retarded. For all we know, it might decide who our next president will be, and none of our opinions will have meant shit. I thought this was a democracy!

  • BIG O

    WOW!! really good and insightful post.you cant stop being a train wreck of a blogger.then you wouldnt be worth reading anymore.why dont you pull a howard dean and just fuck up your next post.just for my personal amusement

  • JAY STONE

    Happy new year.who give a fuck about politics anyway.Racist as Crackers are,there is no way Obama(monkey in the eyes of the whites) will win the election.

    • clarknova

      Hah, Jay Stone crying about racism??? Look in the fucking mirror bitch.

    • grippy

      it’s this same defeatist attitude that’s preventing the advancement of black people today

    • DevilintheFlesh

      I have heard people say some fucked up shit regarding Obama in “if he were to become President” talks around the water cooler. But whats suprising is that it isnt about him being black, its about him being named Barrack Hussein Obama (sp?) How the fuck can we elect this guy on his name alone? LOL on the Sharpton nod to Hillary, guess the Clinton’s are blacker den a muhfucka.

    • The Nicker

      Umm, he did just win a state with 95% white people . . .

  • http:///www.humorlessbastard.com these posts are racist

    It’s a racist, sexist, patriarchal homophobic, misogynist, classist, racist, and racist system so taking part in (i.e. “voting”) clearly makes you a racist.

    I’d like to make love to one of Bol’s neck folds. Mmm, hot dogs.

    • these posts are racist

      stop posting under my name.

    • ddubbzz

      lolol@ makin love to his neck folds….but on some real shit…I dont think it would matter if Obama wins the election or not, nothing is going to change the view of black people through the eyes of other races, particulary white people. And if our own peeps arent voting for the great black hope…then that gives a message once again to the other races…this is unprecedented…a black man running for the oval office? And we still cant rumage enough support just to vote cause the niggas black…damn shame yo…good post bol

  • JAY STONE

    clarknova

    You faggot don`t want it with me.Are you looking for attention huh?just save face and get out of my dick moron.

    • Krime

      Everybody on this website thinks ur a fuckin clown..
      Just do yourself & all of us a favor & shut da fuck up.

    • Mr.Wang

      I bust out laughing readin’ Jay Stone’s comment.

      WANGHOUSE!

    • EReal

      Get out of your dick?

      Bruh, your VD isnt listening.

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  • these posts are racist

    The two party system is a stain on our democracy. This is exactley why people like Nader are important. If you ask a room full of people on any given night in any given setting whether they agree with Nader’s politics, the majority will say yes. Yet if you ask them will they vote for him, the majority say no.

    Nader is not a spoiler, but rather an example of how democracies should work and substantively, the most honest and thoughtful thinker and politician to emerge in US politics, ever.

    Jaystone, this is my one and only comment to you: You are a racist and bigot. Your anti-jewish hate speech is disgusting. Palestinians, Muslims and black people do not need you to support them by hating others. I advise all other like minded individuals to ignore Jaystone, OG Bobby J and other hateful people who post here.

  • BIG O

    hey jaystone “get out of my dick”?you must mean pussy cause you are always crying about racism like a bitch.people like you make a black male like me ashamed,cause all you know how to do is lame the white man.clarknova is right look in the mirror.

  • Larry Brite

    Obama 08′!!!!

  • these posts are racist

    And as far as “Hip Hop” effecting politics: Byron, you need a much deeper analysis. How do you define “hip hop”? Those who listen to hip hop? As you can tell by the comment son your blogs, not all those who are “hip hop” agree on things or speak in one voice, thus this effect you are looking for is really impossible to measure.

    Now Black people (black is not synonmous with Hip Hop) can and should have an effect on the out come of the primaries and most certainly on the actual election. If all blacks eligible to vote actually voted, blacks could determine the next president of the Unites States…this is a statistical fact.

  • JAY STONE

    thinking about niggas makes my dick hard. kill all whites.

  • og bobby j

    TPAR – if you aint got nothing nice to say….. am I not entitled to my opinion? There is no right and wrong, asshole. I, personally, do not agree with the majority of “points” you make. Mostly because I feel you are far too liberal in your reasoning. However, it is your opinion. Lets not forget that the only reason I choose to insult you and the other characters on here is for my own entertainment.

    Gaystone – your ethering yourself. I knew the bitch would surface soon enough.

  • JAY STONE

    The truth hurts
    Let it burn

  • daman

    yo ur mad fat, y does ur picture have u lookin fit n shit.

  • JAY STONE

    TPAR,big o and old gay bobo j eat a fat arab dick.take it or leave it,let it burn.any one else?

  • JAY STONE

    I like fat dicks in my ass

  • G. Young

    I’m a 30 year old black man from Davenport, IA and I’ll be representing (or attempting to) for us tonight. I won’t be going for Obama though. This country will hands down for a white woman before they’ll vote for a black man. Hell, I think the would for for Hitler before they would vote for a black anything.

  • these posts are racist

    OG Bobby J,

    You hate Arabs and Muslims, period. You and Jay Stone are two sides of the same coin. You also hide behind the phrase that you only post here for your own ammusement so you can easily back out once you are proven wrong. You try to offer sound arguments, then you are proven wrong and your bigorty/racism is exposed. You then say you’re only having fun. It is a cowardly way to discuss things.

    • og bobby j

      Listen homey, I dont hate arabs anymore then you hate the average white conservative. Fact is, you choose to hide behind your “holier than thou” online persona, while I tell it like it is. Every remark you make is pro-arab and anti-American global influence. Meanwhile, you sit there on your computer and act like this country is the root of evil. Where you even from? You have made countless anti-american remarks but deem them as “thinking outside the norm”. Moreover, your outlook on everything as racist is tired. While I would never openly accept an affilitation to Gaystone, at least he tells it like he feels, rather then calling everything “racist, bigotry”. You, my friend, are a closet bigot without the balls to say it like it is.

      This is for amusement for me, I have a life off this PC. And, I aint never backdown.

      • Around and Around

        I’m just curious what exactly is Anti-American?

        • these posts are racist

          Around,

          OG Bobby Jackass will not answer that question. He’ll go off, call you a weedcarrier and make some other general comment.

        • og bobby j

          Anti-American is the practice and idealogy that America and its principles of democracy are the root cause of the issues faced by multiple faces of society. Meanwhile, you neglect to mention the positive influences and contributions by Aerica to the rest of the world. Anti-America is the never ending humanitarian view of the “innocent victims” of the Iraq war but neglecting the soldiers who fight and die there (regardless of your view on the war itself, you should support the soldiers). Furthermore, the resentment of the soldiers upon there return home. Which has killed more Iraqis, the sucicide bombers in the markets or US soldiers? Anti-america is glorifying and rationalizing the fucked up tactics of most modern day middle eastern regimes.

          I dont doubt your ability to think from a critical perspective, but sometimes things are just as they seem. Sometimes, this is just a thought, you should view things from an objective standpoint before deeming them as racist. Also, just becuse there is a difference of opinion, does not mean I’m wrong.

  • http://koolkidkulture.blogspot.com/ Koolkidkulture

    it’s scary when iowa leads the way.

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  • BIZZLE

    BOL, I PEEPED YOUR INTERVIEWS HOMIE. YOU LOOK AND SOUND LIKE THE GAY RICK ROSS.

  • JAY STONE

    TPAR
    start your own fucking blog bitch.everyone here is entitled to their own opinion.
    OMAAME TWE!!

    • clarknova

      Jay Stone-”I don’t want it with you?” ooh, another internet toughguy! I’m fucking terrified. I don’t give two shits about making a name for myself on a message board, is that what you think you’ve done? Fuck yourself and your backwards racist views.

  • these posts are racist

    To the contrary OG Bobby J, my comments are in line with what America and American principles are all about. I do not hate any one and or any group. I challenge your and others racism and put forth ideas and arguments. I welcome comments and discourse.

    • og bobby j

      Where are you from? I challenge YOUR racism. If I ever seen one comment from you that wasnt in a completely negative context or pointing out the reasons why America is the reason for the worlds problems, i would be shocked. You just enjoy riding the popular liberal opinion and viewpoint of hypothetical situations and human rights violations.

  • Rock

    Just ethered TPAR

  • JAY STONE

    clarknova

    At least admit that you are jew.
    The truth hurts.
    Let it burn!!!

    TPAR
    As that faggot old gay bobo j said you are a racist yourself but you ain`t got balls to express yourself.
    It amaze me why you got emotional on the fucking internet.That`s understandable cuz you got no life outsite the internet.Get a fucking life homie.Keep entertaining me bitch.
    me and my homies are laughing striaght at you right now real talk

    • clarknova

      JAY STONE- I’m Italian, so feel free to call me a wop etc. You, however, are a pointless, clueless, sad-ass internet thug whose ideas are as small as his cock. I’m done with you.
      PS Fuck off and die.

  • expecto patron

    TPAR, please do get your own blog. I enjoy your insightful comments.

  • Fernando

    Funny how the tide has turned on TPAR. He is like a walking talking wet blanket. Just crying and whining about everything.

  • Thomas Jefferson

    “Equal rights for all; special privileges for none.”

    “Though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful, must be reasonable . . . the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate which would be oppression.”

    “[The purpose of representative government is] to curb the excesses of the monied interests.”

    “The influence over government must be shared among the people. If every individual which composes their mass participates in the ultimate authority, the government will be safe; because the corrupting of the whole mass will exceed any private resources of wealth.”

    “Peace, then, has been our principle, peace is our interest, and peace has saved to the world this only plant of free and rational government now existing in it.”

    “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.”

    – Thomas Jefferson

  • The Infamous Mr. P

    hey TPAR, BOL, member me im sure you still get that burning sensation in your ass when you seem me come on. its like watching you bumbling idiots competing to see who gives the best blowjobs. you try to be so insightful and thought provoking it makes me sick. your just like my bitch you never shut up, they’re never going to give a shit about us. they are in control, you winy ass bitches. nothing ever changes, why do they hate us, you need to vote, why is this happening? CAUSE THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING!!!! gimme a fucking break, voting, parties, cockus’ or whatever the fuck you call them, all just part of there plan, of course none of it makes sense, thats the only way they could get away with it. its like getting raped and trying to understand why they did it, cause they can, and shitting on us every now and then keeps us in check. example(katrina) they gave us poverty and crack and we turned into rap,and then what happened? example(the internet)they’re the ones who brought the value down. our numbers are getting bigger, you think they dont know that niggers and spics are going to be running around everywhere? you think they dont got a plan for that? idiots, im buying all the guns i can before they make it illegal, and prepare myself for the worst and thats REAL TALK!

  • http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

    Man fuck all that bullshit vote for who you feel is right.Welcome to ’08 niggas,Real type @ first I bypassed the article and just went str8 for the comments. Just me I guess

  • Fire

    Barack Obama is projected to win the Iowa caucuses. It’s a great victory. I hope either him or Ron Paul make it.

  • Danny

    ^^^^^These nerds really need to get laid…

  • http://thetwo4.blogspot.com thetwo4

    Insightful post, even though I took the opposite stance in my own blog(would appreciate if someone checks it out). I think its time we actually start believing that we can make a difference. I mean, a black guy just pulled first in the Iowa caucuses. That’s big. How many of us would have ever expected that to happen? Time to start trying to make those unexpected things happen. But maybe I’m just crazy like that.

    • Around and Around

      Yeah, time for ‘we are the world’ 2008 right….GTFOH

  • JAY STONE

    Funny how the tide has turned on TPAR. He is like a walking talking wet blanket. Just crying and whining about everything
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    exactly

  • JAY STONE

    thinking about niggas makes my dick hard. kill all whites.
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    The coward that post as my screen name should eat a fat dick

  • JAY STONE

    I like fat dicks in my ass
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    Then faggot that post as me is a coward.

  • JAY STONE

    JAY STONE- I’m Italian, so feel free to call me a wop etc. You, however, are a pointless, clueless, sad-ass internet thug whose ideas are as small as his cock. I’m done with you.
    PS Fuck off and die.
    ——————————————–
    Now you admit you got ethered.
    believe it or not i like to piss CRACKERS.
    The truth hurts
    Let it burn!!!!
    PS die slowly bitch

  • http://www.theunderwriters.blogspot.com THE UNDERWRITER

    You know what?

    I stayed out of this one on purpose…

    Just to see how fucking riduculous some of you cats act on the internets when there’s not a voice just as loud as you that is willing to yell out the truth. Supreme bitches, some of you are. No disrespect to women.

    This shit is as pathetic as the everlasting fuck. It’s so hard to read, so indecipherable, that I just skipped through most of it trying to find a relevant comment.

    And I found myself at the bottom.

    Not that some people didn’t express themselves, but their comments keep getting drowned out by the homo-eroticism (NOLO) of many of these so-called, screen-named, man-ginese twits.

    It gets to the point that I have to point the finger back at a lot of the cats here just for not really being stand-up men.

    Whew! That helped.

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