Do you know what that means?

Listening to this song “Independent” by Webbie featuring Lil’ Boosie the other day (it’s all they play on the radio here in St. Louis), it occurred to me: “Independent” is a club record that celebrates the kind of hard-working woman who doesn’t need a man to support her, but when would a woman with two jobs, her own house and her own car even find time to be in a club?

Working a series of soul-crushing minimum wage jobs, which is the kind of shit you have to do when you work here, I’ve come across my share of broads who work more than one job. (Not counting the check they get to have children.) Many of them work damn near the equivalent two full-time jobs, which makes me wonder how they even find time to sleep.

Lord knows, between the time I spend slinging ad-hominems over the Internets, and the time I spend playing the Nintendo Wii, I’ve been pretty short on sleep myself lately. And I only work every once in a while.

So most likely, the average broad who spends a lot of time in the club twerking it to “Independent” bears very little relation to the type of woman described in the song. But the main aspect of “Independent” that I found to be BS is that I think it sends out the wrong message.

I mean, on the one hand, there’s nothing wrong with a woman who can take care of herself.

For example, could there have been a Don Imus incident if it wasn’t in a woman’s nature to derive her sense of self-worth from a man?

And obviously any woman who’s looking to be with me (don’t all raise your hands at once) is gonna have to be self-reliant, if for no other reason than the fact that it’s not like I’m gonna be able to take care of her.

Last year, there was a story in the New York Times about these uber-successful broads who had trouble finding a man. They weren’t about to snag a man with a similar income, because of course a man of a certain means is gonna judge a woman on her appearance first and foremost. That’s Darwinism at its finest. So they’d end up dating these guys with average – or less than average – incomes, and invariably the relationship would end up failing.

Broads like that love to claim that a man who’s unable to pull down an income suitable for a man (which is becoming an epidemic these days, if you notice) is intimidated by a woman who makes more money than he does. But as I mentioned at the time, I know I wouldn’t be. And I doubt any other guy reading this would be either. Shit, I’d be celebrating!

Now, if she insisted on constantly calling you lazy and bringing up the fact that she makes more money than you do in front of your friends, then obviously that would be a different story. But in that case, the issue wouldn’t be so much the fact that she makes more money than you, but rather the fact that she’s an ignorant beeyotch who doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up.

But I digress.

As I was saying, on the one hand, no one’s discouraging a woman from learning a little self-reliance. The shit might come in handy one of these days. But on the other hand, if being independent is such a good idea, then how come only black women are doing it? White women and Chinese women have never been less independent, and I think they might be on to something.

Not to lay the entire blame for the state of the black community on a black woman’s independent streak (and hence let white people off the hook), but you have to wonder: Would things be quite as fucked up as they are if black women made more of an effort to include a man in their lives?

Take for example this story in the New York Times yesterday about all of these single black women in Baltimore losing their homes due to this subprime mess. A lot of those women really were the type of women described in the Webbie record, and look what’s happening to them: Back having to cut a check every month to someone named Goldstein or whatever.

Now obviously not every woman (certainly not every black woman) is gonna be able to find a man. And obviously not every man (especially if he’s black) is gonna be able to chip in much – though a man might at least have the sense not to try to cop some shit he can’t afford. But some of us probably could, and we’d probably be better off for it, regardless of what Webbie says.

  • Mr.Good Bar

    You should do more posts like these. They are a lot more interesting.
    -Mr.Good Bar

  • dmac

    yo thats real talk

  • Flymasta

    GOOD POST THAT’S ALL I CAN SAY GOOD POST

  • dameSTAtus

    She got her own house.

  • dameSTAtus

    she got her own car..

    A lot of those women really were the type of women described in the Webbie record, and look what’s happening to them.

    Funniest shiznit I’ve read in a minute, right up there w/ the comment section on that Tom Cruise Scientology video that leaked this week.
    (had to stop short on the TI joke, at work! you know how we do it ninja.)

  • ddubbzz

    For real though, my girl makes hmmm…40,000 more then me. And yes, she’s white. And she has NOOOO problem with that shit. Shiitttttt….she know’s i’m pimpin it hard. But i love the bitch though, and i give her good pipe game. So it evens out for the both of us. She never tries to clown, cus she’s white, and she knows i’ll put her in her place(no punching) So i guess it comes downn to you picking the right chick that makes more money then you do, and settle down with the bitch.

    • big coop 25

      So I guess you are unemployed and she is the only one working, that would explain the 40,000 a year difference.

  • Hambone Deluxo

    the subprime crisis has reached a fever pitch indeed if it’s popping up in this blog

  • whiteman

    So true… First hoes

  • these posts are racist

    To suggest that black women simply do not want to be with a man, is just inaccurate. Black women have it the worst in this country. The combination of misogyny and racism they suffer is unmatched by any other group’s hardships.

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      Then how come there aren’t any songs by white women talking about how they don’t need a man?

      Also, I’m pretty sure black men have got black women beat in the oppression olympics.

      • these posts are racist

        If you are using the number of songs by black women which describe how “they don’t need a man” to argue that they, for reasons you fail to describe, simply choose to be single, then I can’t really argue with you. People however, tend to rationalize their situation. Due to various circumstances, high numbers in prison, poverty, etc. black women find it hard to find a black male companion, so they rationalize and say “they don’t need a man.” People “rationalize” things all the time, everyday. It does not mean they don’t want it, just that they’d rather lie to themselves and pretend they don’t want/need something that they actually do want/need, but cannot obtian. Cabeech?

        • http://xxlmag.com Bol

          So you’re calling black women liars.

          How very un-TPAR of you.

        • these posts are racist

          So you’re responding with a sarcastic one liner which is meant to effectively shut down the discussion and make you look cool and funny.

          How very Byron of you.

          Byron, if your argument is that black women do not want a significant other, please offer reasons for this belief.

        • http://xxlmag.com Bol

          >Byron, if your argument is that black women do not want a significant other, please offer reasons for this belief.

          Because they write motherfucking songs about it.

          Don’t play dumb.

        • Mr.Wang

          Damn ya’ll been at it all day.

          Oh and ddubbzz…you are soooo right my nigga.

          Wang up, pussies down.

        • Doobie

          TPAR I have to STRONGLY disagree with you here. First of all, the presumption that many black women are even looking for men that most rational people would consider an ideal mate is bullshit. Black women actively SEEK OUT convicts, career criminals, dope dealers, etc., so what the heck do they expect the end result to be? I know that this does not apply to all black women, but it does apply to a lot of them. Black women’s values and attitude about what constitutes a real man helps contribute a great deal to this cycle of bullshit that continues to be perpetuated, but they rarely get called out on it.

    • ddubbzz

      Black people in general have it the hardest, and black chicks have a huge chip on their shoulder

    • jimmyjoints

      what kind of ‘lawyer’, was never taught how to write?

    • QuEen k0n9

      Right on! First of all to blame the black woman reason for being single on her determintation and drive to achieve great things in life is completely stupid. So basically she is suppose to just do the ordinary..you know get have babies and get on welfare then depend on a man or another individal for her own prosperity…uuuummm no! I pride myself on being an educated well respected African/ Puerto Rican American woman with a fond love for Hiphop music but when I see bullshit blogs like this and dumb fuckers agree with it it pisses me off to see that ignorance even more bliss. It is not the sistah fault that your lazy ass is consistent with your a little above minimum wage paying job and apartment. Now if the sister is clowning you in front of your boys then thats messed up but if more African-American men can have a little bit ambition then maybe..just maybe she wont be clowing your lazy ass..(Drank)

      • Doobie

        “First of all to blame the black woman reason for being single on her determintation and drive to achieve great things in life is completely stupid.”

        You’re right, that is completely stupid–but so is being enamored with dope boys, street dudes and dead beats. Gangsta/pimp swag is all that matters to many of the black females that I’ve come across, they think that’s the definition of a “real man”. And it’s not just the ones that “do the ordinary”, lots of educated black women are the same way. The problem is that unless you’re a rapper, ball player or some type of entertainer, that same gangsta swag and the attitude and disposition that go along with it pretty much limits your options to either street hustling or doing intermittent work at shitty little above minimum wage paying jobs. So women are *asking* to be in that situation implicitly, even though their not explicitly asking for it, when they value that as being “manly” and attractive. Most black women don’t seem to grow out of that shit until they’re well into their 30’s, and by then it’s too late—-you wouldn’t fuck with a man UNLESS he was that way for all that time and now you want to complain about it? Collectively, our ideas of what’s “manly” and “womanly” are a large part of the problem. We can’t have the expectations that we have and fall into the roles that so many of us do and expect the results to be any different.

        Nobody has it harder in this society than a young black male who’s striving to stay focused on a positive and constructive path. I think that black men in particular but men in general have been done a great disservice by the values of this post-feminist world that we live in. I read this post by a woman on a post-democratic debate discussion board that does a good job of summing up the situation:

        “It is not easy being a woman who leans toward the right as a libertarian. I guess after working in social services and schools, and being the avid reader I am, I see the truth. I know lots of females who do horrible things, yet they seem to come out ahead in family courts, and I see how we have neglected men (mainly Black men, who rarely benefit from these women with a kid programs). men’s suicide rates are off the chart compared to women, women get preferential treatment in shcools if they are single parents, and they now make up over half of med and law students. This is tremendous progress since the women’s lib movlement in the 60s, but men today are being marginalized and ignored. Black men have a better chance of being struck by lightnening than going to college. Aint just gals who suffer.”

        That part about having a better chance of being struck by lightening is obviously an exaggeration, but her point is still well made.

  • lAUGHIN@U

    ALL RIGHT CONGREGATION LET ME QUOTE FROM “I’MPPIMPINTHESE” CHAPTER 1 VERSE 12 OF THE GOLDY SLIDE POLE BIBLE; “I SAY i DON’T MINE YO’ NICKLES AND DIMES…ARRUHMM..LONG AS I GETS MINE!” AND IT CONTINUES “SHE CAN…GET DEGREE’S, SHE CAN…. GET THEM G’S, SHE CAN… GET THEM B.A’S ANDA DOCTRINES IF SHE PLEASE, LONG AS i GET PAID AND SHE HIT KNEE’S!” PIMP!,PIMP! CHUUUUERCH! IN OTHER WORDS SHIT LET THAT BITCH MAKE HER BREAD AND KEEP IT GREASY!

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  • c. gabi

    Historically speaking, Black women are used to not having a Black man. It’s one of those weird residual effects from slavery. Because the men (Black men) were constantly being sold off to other plantations and the breakdown of the Black family has been in existence since, well, the first ship sailed from the West shores of Africa on over to the Western Hemisphere—so is born the Black woman’s “independent” streak.

    The way I see it, as a Black woman, it’s more of a plight than anything to really be out here boasting about.

    But whatever, it’s a catchy song. Glad the brotha knows how to spell

    • http://www.myspace.com/sogentllc these posters are idiots

      Word. I take it that you are a black woman. You definitely hit the nail on the head though, as there never was much semblance of black family structure in America.

      What do you see as a viable solution, if you don’t mind me asking?

      • these posts are racist

        Is this the poster formerly known as “Lowendofdachi”?

        • http://www.myspace.com/sogentllc these posters are idiots

          Yeah, I had to steal the name, lol!

          But whats up, cold enough for you out here?

        • these posts are racist

          No prob. homey…You know how brothers from the Chi do. Yeah man, this weekend is supposed to be the coldest day of the year in Chicago. Hopefully I won’t have to work and I’ll just post up at watch the Wire on DVD.

          What’s up with all the Lupe Hate on this site man? Lupe is dope and all this attention will only help him, I think.

      • http://www.myspace.com/sogentllc these posters are idiots

        @c.gabi

        Please ignore the first sentence in my reply

        • c. gabi

          @ these posters are idiots

          Ehh, I guess the best solution to it is just accept one another as we are–with all of our faults, hangups, insecurities, shortcomings along with the strengths and everything else that falls in between. easier said than done, of course. i think we (Black men and women) give up on each other and run off to what’s easier.

          As much shit as some of us Black women talk about Black men, no one will understand you better than us (and maybe that’s why we talk so much of it, b/c we understand it)…this may be hard to stomach, but simply put.

          It’s all out of love and we really just want y’all to do better b/c we know you can. Everyday, Black women are encouraged to be better women–keep your physical appearance looking right (for those of us that can afford to), shop here, go to college, own a home, buy a car, climb the corporate ladder, etc. And in all honesty, what man or woman wants to be with someone isn’t trying to better themselves.

          What a lot of brothas don’t know is that we (Black women) may have all the trappings of an independent woman, but none of that really means shit at the end of the day. None of it asks us how our day went, rubs our feet, or can make us clench bedsheets and cum.

        • http://www.myspace.com/sogentllc these posters are idiots

          Word, I can dig that. Especially the last line.

    • Around and Around

      I’m sorry that shit is fucking retarded…..You mean to tell me 30 years ago 70% of all black children born were born into single parent homes and this stat just hasn’t continued to get progressively worse?

      That’s about par for a zionist.

      • these posts are racist

        Word. Just say no to racist Zionists who destroy the lives of millions in their quest for racial superiority.

        • Dickrider Hater

          So, when are you two expecting? LOL!

          I see TPAR let Around the Nuttsachs to wear the pants today, LMFAO!

          Fuckin Fags!

        • Around and Around

          I see Dickrider Hater hasn’t given up on gaining my attention…so here I’ll type on you…Dickrider…..

          Happy, I typed your name.

          Dickrider AKA Buck-a-Fuck

  • South City

    Bravo Fat Boy, on showing a relationship between a forgettable hip-hop song and the current circumstance of a majority of black women.

    Many of these I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T broads aren’t the six-figure broads that come to mind, but the kinda broads that (in most cases) popped out a kid at an early age and has no other option to work these menial jobs.

    Bottom line, most of these independent chicks really don’t wanna be completely independent and their independence is a result of unrealistic expectations of a man.

  • http://THENUMBERTOO.WORDPRESS.COM THENUMBERTOO

    I DON’T KNOW, HAVING MORE THAN ONE JOB NOWADAYS IS SOMETHING THAT MORE AND PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE, JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

    BEING INDEPENDENT IS JUST THAT, BEING INDEPENDENT!!! NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO MAKE THOSE ENDS MEET, YOU ARE STILL AT THE END OF THE DAY STAYING ALIVE BY YOUR OWN RIGHT.

  • http://www.freshfeature.com Fresh

    Dude. I know the following is going to solicit a comment from OG Bobby. BTW stop using The N word. It’s okay for Fat Joe but not you.

    I hate to be one of those back to Africa motherfuckers but that’s how it goes. The Black family was separated. Black women were forced to hold shit down for the family. Making sure that kids were fed, supported and educated so that they would have a future. For the last two hundred years black women have been I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T. They don’t know anything else. It also has to be mentioned that women of a certain success are usually man-less. Drew Barrymore, Oprah and shit Kimora and Russell couldn’t even stay married.

    http://www.freshfeature.com

    • og bobby j

      truthfully, I wasnt goin in on this until you asked for it. But anyway, fuck a fat joe and I will say whatever the fuck I want, nigga. Next, I have never heard this alleged song as I choose to seperate my ears from lil webbie type bullshit polluting the airwaves and minds of the youth. Wipe that down.

      As for the independent black women, i think it is more prominant in the black community due to factors spoke of earlier, namely the large percent of black prisoners and high school drop outs. Also, lest we forget, the new phenomenom, white women with ass. However, i dont think that this is really an issue of race but of socio-economic status and, to be blunt, bitches with a bad fucking attitude.

  • really???

    black people get free food (welfare)
    black people get free housing (projects)
    black people get free clothes (salvation army)
    black people get free college (NCAAP)

    what do black people have to pay for besides condoms? oh yeah, they get paid to overpopulate the earth with kids they can’t take care of.

    i love black people, but i am really tired of hearing how rough ya’ll got it. everything is handed to you like you’re being baby fed and you still stay crying. ya’ll are definitely a bunch of babies.

    • Dub Sac

      Are you fucking stupid?

      As a WHITE person who’s been on unemployment and food stamps, let me tell you that shit doesn’t cut it. You don’t get rich off that shit – when I was on food stamps I was working AND selling plasma (you ever tried that – it’s fucking great) and I still had trouble making ends meet.

      Are you really (really???) trying to say that in areas of this country with tough job markets (like most metropolitan areas) social services are a viable way of making a living? You wanna just kick your feet up and move in to the projects cause they’re so fucking great? Dumbass. You really want to live off canned government food cause it’s so fucking delicious and wholesome? Dumbass.

      I hear the job market in the ghetto is fucking booming, so those blacks must just be lazy. And our colleges are just opening their arms to black people. It’s like Canada for black people, while us poor, poor white folk work so hard and get so little in return. It’s just not right, I tell ya.

      Why the fuck are you on this site? Oh, that’s right, you LOVE black people. Let me guess – you love them so much you came hear to prove how fucking stupid white people are, to demonstrate once and for all how callous we as a people can be to those we’ve uprooted and fucked over for centuries and then blame for not keeping up economically?

      You’re a fucking moron.

      • Fire

        Dub Sac,
        As a white person I feel you, couldn’t have said it any better myself. Co-sign to the fullest. I didn’t even know how to respond to that clown.

      • jimmyjoints

        twenty,

        food stamps pay for innanet connections?

        • Dub Sac

          Nah, but most public libraries have computers to get on-line.

          And thankfully I live in a place now where I have a job that covers my cost of living. I’m just saying that things aren’t always good and even hard-working people sometimes need help.

    • grippy

      @really???
      black people don’t get all that free stuff, Niggas do

  • gok

    You sound like a single middle aged man that doesnt get any pussie (not including those you’ve paid).

  • The_Shogun

    Got a job….OK, Got your own house….OK, Got your own car….OK….don’t need no man….WTF?!

    Just another form of divide and conquer. A song directed towards black women with a message that states, “fuck black men”. Basically, “I hate myself”

    Being able to be responsible and support yourself and your children if you have them is just being an adult, it’s nothing really to brag or boast about, it’s what your supposed to do.

    There is nothing wrong teaming up with someone of the oppisite sex to achieve happiness and success in life. Two heads are better than one.

  • gok

    and btw your obviously not listening to ass much white music as you usually do Bol. Theres loads of emo/rock/pop songs by girls saying that they dont need a man.

  • The Spaniard

    These droves of ultra paid, fine ass women are a myth…similar to big foot or the lochness monster.

    Where are they? Who on this message board has seen them? Not many I would suspect. Top notch, mentally balanced, attractive, and available women don’t have problems finding men…period.

  • thoreauly77

    “Then how come there aren’t any songs by white women talking about how they don’t need a man?”

    - apparently listening to the nothing but the gin blossoms circa 96 has left you unaware of bands like bikini kill, let alone new bands such as le tigre.

  • thoreauly77

    oh and co-sign spaniards 7:03 comment.

  • marlon

    Bols mom doesn’t love him

  • moresickaMC

    Black men have FAILED…period(and yes I’m a black male. I don’t blame the women

  • independentblkchick

    I have a great education. I own my home and my car. I have a pretty good job. I’m attractive. I take pretty good care of myself. I’ve heard this song (I’m from the south and I STILL can’t stand Webbie or Boosie or who the f** ever sings this mess). I think the point of this song is that an independent woman isn’t lookin for a handout from a man. BUT DON’T BE MISTAKEN. We still crave the the affection and attention of black men. Just because we don’t need your money doesn’t mean that we don’t want you!! I would love to have a supportive beautiful black man to hold me and calm me down when I want to scream after working with clueless white people all day. A great black father, there to teach and prepare our children for the harsh world that awaits them. And, yes, we can put our money together and have something even greater than I could ever have alone. After my parent divorced, I watched my under-educated struggle with a low paying job to raise my brother and I alone. After that, I promised to never be in a situation where, if left alone, I couldn’t support myself. But, I’m praying that I don’t find myself left alone.

    • Doobie

      It would be great if there were more women like you independentblkchick. I can tell by what you said about your father and what you said about wanting a supportive black man to be there for you, that you have a really healthy conception of manhood. You’re to be commended for doing as well as you’ve done, and any guy that consider’s that a con is insane (and has a *really* fragile ego). A woman like yourself with a healthy conception of manhood *and* that genuinely values a man’s support and companionship is a rare thing.

  • independentblkchick

    I have a great education. I own my home and my car. I have a pretty good job. I’m attractive. I take pretty good care of myself. I’ve heard this song (I’m from the south and I STILL can’t stand Webbie or Boosie or who the f** ever sings this mess). I think the point of this song is that an independent woman isn’t lookin for a handout from a man. BUT DON’T BE MISTAKEN. We still crave the the affection and attention of black men. Not needing your money doesn’t mean that we don’t want you!! I would love to have a supportive beautiful black man to hold me and calm me down when I want to scream after working with clueless white people all day. A great black father, there to teach and prepare our children for the harsh world that awaits them. And, yes, we can put our money together and have something even greater than I could ever have alone. After my parent divorced, I watched my under-educated mother struggle with a low paying job to raise my brother and I alone. After that, I promised to never be in a situation where, if left alone, I couldn’t support myself. But, I’m praying that I don’t find myself left alone.

  • Who dat?

    Funny you should bring this up Bol. I was at a strip club one weekend ( or it could have been inside the week ) and these uninspired strippers immediately jumped and started to shake their stuff ( some were writhing on the damn floor )when that INDEPENDENT song was blasted. I was so amused , in my drunk stupor,that these strippers thought THEY TOO are independent. HAHAHA …took a sip of my Heineken and threw the dollar bills on the floor…for these INDEPENDENT women to pick up. By the way ….this was an all black strip club.

  • http://www.myspace.com/sogentllc LowEndofDaChi

    @TPAR

    Yeah man, I’m still going out to Dekalb this weekend on some bullshit though. Chalk it up to youth.

    But as far as the Lupe hate, its understandable. His whole steez is a breath of fresh air for the game.

    The purists can’t stand him because they can’t put him in their own little box or call him the next coming of Q-Tip. The idiots write him off as a lame because they can’t grasp the concept of a song like Kick, Push being more about the youth dealing with adversity as opposed to actual “skateboarding”. They’d find it easier to accept dude if he was some sort of make believe drug dealer who used childhood icons like snowmen as a marketing tool.

    So yeah, its a lose-lose situation when you actually bring substance to the table. Especially when you refuse to be a make believe stan for a group who’s influence in Chicago’s inner city was pretty much nonexistent.

    As far as the Wire goes, I already got the first 7 episodes of this season on dvd. I’m on it fam!

    100

    • these posts are racist

      Co-sign. I could not have said it better. Great synopsis and perfect characterization of all the drama surrounding Lupe my brother.

  • Ali

    I wouldn’t wanna woman makin alot more than me…I don’t wanna woman responsible for my well being & have my life in her hands….if she makes more money than that’s what it is….she is takin care of you, u need her….i want my girl to need me i don’t wanna hafta rely on her….thats not pimp shit…thats embarassing

  • Ali

    I wouldn’t wanna woman makin alot more than me…I don’t wanna woman responsible for my well being & have my life in her hands….if she makes more money than that’s what it is….she is takin care of you, u need her….i want my girl to need me i don’t wanna hafta rely on her….thats not pimp shit…thats embarassing

  • http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

    1st if you are not black,come from a black home then STFU.See i’m not going to get in the nigga thing cuz all the peckerwoods on this forum wouldnt say nigga in public so i’ll deal with it this is the net and punk muthafuckas feel safe saying.Now for half these niggas on here its called self esteem ,no one can give it to you.Thats whiy its self esteem. If a female is making more than you and she’s with you no matter what ,and you feel disrespected cuz she’s in the 6 figs, didnt you know that before you married/dated her?SMH you niggas have issues go sit on somebody couch and grab some tissue

  • http://www.theunderwriters.blogspot.com THE UNDERWRITER

    Atlanta has more well-to-do Black women with houses, cars, church memberships and proper hair/nails game than could be fathomed.

    It gets to the point where a single Black dude, or any single guy for that matter, can luck the eff up and find a cake mami. You don’t even have to go to the club; you can find these women at Publix on the high.

    The most important independent quality that a woman can have is mental. Free thinking women rule.

    And for the record, Lupe is still a lame, for more than one reason. Mark my words, he’s going to end up being the Islamic Ma$e with a public access gospel rap show and a white wife.

    Let me chill; he’s been shooting Tec 9s since he was a baby…

  • http://koolkidkulture.blogspot.com/ Koolkidkulture

    good post.

    Boost Mobile Anthem 2.0
    Behind the scenes with Jeezy, JD and Mickey Avalon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3er-A6HsW8w

  • Cassius

    Rappers are trying to leave women pregnant and motivate them to be independent, LOL

    Child support can kill a nig

  • JAY STONE

    I’m no muslim and this does not have anything to do with the artice post by Bol.

    WASHINGTON – A high school track star has been disqualified from a meet because officials said the custom-made outfit she wears to conform to her Muslim faith violated competition rules.

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    Juashaunna Kelly, a senior at the District of Columbia’s Theodore Roosevelt High School, has the fastest mile and 2-mile times of any girl runner in the city this winter. She was disqualified from Saturday’s Montgomery Invitational indoor track and field meet.

    Kelly was wearing the same uniform she has worn for three seasons while running for Theodore Roosevelt’s cross-country and track teams. The custom-made, one-piece blue and orange unitard covers her head, arms, torso and legs. Over the unitard, she wears the same orange and blue T-shirt and shorts as her teammates.

    The outfit allows her to compete while adhering to her Muslim faith, which forbids displaying any skin other than her face and hands.

    “It’s not special,” Kelly said. “It doesn’t make me perform better.”

    But meet director Tom Rogers said Kelly’s uniform violated rules of the National Federation of State High School Associations, which sanctioned the event. Uniforms are required to be “a single-solid color and unadorned, except for a single school name or insignia no more than 2 1/4 inches,” he said.

    Rogers said that he knew Kelly was wearing the uniform for religious reasons and that he offered her several options to conform to the rules while still respecting her faith, including placing a plain T-shirt over her unitard and then wearing her team uniform over it.

    Kelly’s mother, Sarah, and Roosevelt Coach Tony Bowden disputed that account. They said officials made several demands of her daughter before Rogers made his decision.

    “First, they said she had to take her hood off,” Sarah Kelly said. “Then, they said she can’t have anything with logos displayed. Then, they said she had to turn it inside out. When I told them that there weren’t any logos on it, they said she had to put a plain white T-shirt on over it.”

    Juashaunna Kelly has worn the same uniform for three years without any problems, including at last year’s Montgomery Invitational. Rogers said officials must have missed the uniform last year.

    “It wasn’t a problem last year, and it’s a problem this year? Make me understand why,” Bowden said.

    Kelly, whose 1,600-meter time of 5 minutes 17.49 seconds and 3,200-meter time of 12:00.81 are the fastest of any D.C. girl, was hoping to run fast enough at the Montgomery Invitational to qualify for the New Balance Collegiate Invitational in New York on Feb. 8-9.

    Bowden said the team has no other meets scheduled that would allow her to qualify for the event, which attracts dozens of college recruiters.

  • livefromthe225

    as a native and proud Baton Rougean I never in all my days thought that a Webbie song would cause an intellectual debate on the state of Black relationships, but hey, y’know shit happens…

    the premise of this record is based on chicks (particularly those who live in this area) that run around flossing their call center pay stubs in nigga’s faces, usually niggas that are one broken mop away from unemployment and one strike away from permanent incarceration…women who truly support themselves and believe in building sustainable wealth know the value of having a financially adequate counterpart to ensure that the bread don’t go no where…don’t believe everything that comes on the fuckin radio

  • http://XXL JACOB

    I AGREE WITH YA BOL…I’M 29 YRS OLD…AND I LIKE TO THINK I HAVE MY SHIT TOGETHER…I’M MARRIED TO A VERY GOOD WOMAN, WHO COULD BE INDEPENDENT IF WE WERE NOT TOGETHER, BUT WE WORK AS A TEAM. SHE MAKES MORE THAN ME, BUT NEVER MAKES ME FEEL 2ND FIDDLE…BUT BEFORE I GOT MARRIED…I DEALT WITH ALOT OF WOMEN (PLAYED COLLEGE BALL,AND A YR OR 2 OF PRO BALL)…THEY SAY THEY WANT A MIX OF A GOOD DUDE, AND A THUG…AND THERE LIES THE CONTRADICTION. I’VE SEEN ALOT OF WOMEN LOOKING FOR “DAT NICCA DAT BE ON BET” (LIL WAYNE, FABO, ETC) IN ALL DA WRONG PLACES…THEN COMPLAIN WHEN DA NICCA AIN’T BOUT NOTHING. WOMEN (NOT ALL, BUT ALOT) NEED TO WAKE UP AND STOP LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD, AND SAYING THERE ARE NO GOOD BROTHERS OUT THERE..THAT’S A COP -OUT.

  • bofo

    that song by lil weebie is hot fire lava smoke fresh ill dope nah mean?

  • star treatment

    shit

  • Ayigansta

    GODDANM THIS “DIGITAL WHITE BOY” BOL START TO SOUND INTELLIGENT.

    THE “INDEPENDENT WOMEN” MANTRA IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL BALM FOR WOMEN WHO HAVE VERY LITTLE OPTION WHEN ITS COMES TO FINDING A DECENT PENETRATOR.

    RIGHT ON TARGET

  • barbarian over the wall

    Weed-carriers need not apply?