Goodnight, sweet prince

You get the idea that the real reason Saigon is retiring from rap music (or at least threatening to) is that he realizes he has no future in it anyway. Even on the Internets, where you’d expect an artist like that to be somewhat popular, people only seemed kinda interested in The Greatest Story Never Told.

As I mentioned here the other day, I ran a poll on my own site last week in which I pitted it against upcoming albums by the Wu-Tang Clan, Ghostface Killah, Nas, and Lil Wayne to see which was the most anticipated. The Saigon album came in dead last, quite a few votes behind Ghostface, who was competing with his own (fucking legendary) group.

Now, no one’s suggesting that Saigon, who’s only released a few mixtapes to date in his career, should be as popular as any of those groups (ok, getting blown by a tranny hooker should be more popular than Lil’ Wayne), but you have to look at these things in perspective. In an age when many are suggesting that the Wu-Tang Clan won’t shift more than 100,000 units its first week (I think they’ll do better than that), this Saigon album is just a monumental loss waiting to happen.

Which is probably why the album has since been pushed back from a Dec. 4th release date until… I’m not even sure when that shit’s supposed to be coming out. (In fact, in a video interview with OnSmash,com which was posted here yesterday, Saigon wasn’t even sure himself.) With as many prominent rap albums that are supposed to be released next month, I doubt he’d stand a chance. Never mind the fact that its single, which has grown on me a bit, has been out for a few months now, or that the video for it was released not too long ago.

Granted, I don’t doubt that Saigon has grown tired of having to go around beating the shit out of people because he doesn’t like what they said about him on the Internets, but come on. If there’s a dollar to be made, there’s a dollar to be made, personal turmoil notwithstanding. I mean, of all of the groups of people I could possibly write for, the assholes who “read” this website have rank right down there near the bottom, but you don’t see me retiring from my career of flinging ad hominems at people over the Internets. Why not take some money for some shit you’d probably be doing for free anyway?

And obviously part of the problem is that Saigon feels the best way to solve his various problems is to go around beating the shit out of people. Perhaps more so than anyone in hip-hop (except for that guy who ate a woman), Saigon strikes me as genuinely batshit. Listen to that interview he did with that Lipstick show on Sirius and tell me there wasn’t a genuine sense of fear that he might actually beat up a girl, live on the radio. This must be what Jay Smooth was talking about when he did that video about black kids who really are smart (really), but do stupid shit because they suffer from emotional issues.

Of course I’d suggest that the fact that they do stupid shit is evidence that they are, in fact, stupid. But you guys know I’m racist like that. As far as I’m concerned, stupid is as stupid does.

  • JAYSTONE

    I mean, of all of the groups of people I could possibly write for, the assholes who “read” this website have rank right down there near the bottom, but you don’t see me retiring from my career of flinging ad hominems at people over the Internets. Why not take some money for some shit you’d probably be doing for free anyway?
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    you are a hoe.You ain`t got no talent.All you do is bashing muslims,obama,lupe,jay z etc..i will be hoping for an opportunity to come on to your moms apartment to slap the shit out of you.

    • http://xxlmag.com Bol

      As if I was having a hard time proving my own point.

      • sp3

        man these fucking blogs suck. im gonna stop clickin on bols shit. he needs to chill.

  • JAY STONE

    People like you are the reason hiphop is dead.Saigon,lupe and papoose are the only rappers to hold down the torch when nas,jay z and common retires.

    • Mattzki

      the only rappers to hold down the torch
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      Ummm? Duh? Kinda backed up Bol’s arguement there, no?

  • og bobby j

    The only reason Sai is quitting is he understands when to cut his losses. He can spit, there’s no doubt about that, but Im sure he has realized (just as his label did) that there is no a large demographic for his music. Does anyone even give a shit? I kno most of the fruits on this site couldnt care less who was leaving…just who is cumming…fucking fruit pies

  • http://allhiphop.com God MC from Allhiphop.com

    honestly man, I hear what Sai is saying he only receives attention when he does some wild shit, but whenever he speaks about his Abandon Nation program or anything remotely positive like black empowerment he is turned a deaf ear. But at the same time these are not excuses for Saigon to be acting a ass like wanting to slap Buddens for a punchline or threatening to whip a women’s ass on Live radio. He needs to realize this is the rap game, full of fakes and bullshitters and he needs to conduct himself in the right manner to live through the bullshit but be happy with giving people the music. I root for Saigon because he is a dope rapper and but he been doing some of the dumbest shit.

    Allhiphop.com is always #1 chumps

    • CEOSohh.com

      Illseed stay your gay ass on your site and don’t come here trying to sound intelligent.

      wack nigga

  • stoneyisland

    What did Common say on his Joint I want u? “half naked on your myspace page:)

    The only Saigon I am aware of was in Vietnam. So this is no lost and doesnt even deserve to be mentioned. If the brother wants to quit before he even gets started so be it. Good luck blackman, go back to school or be a male model:)

  • Doobie

    “I mean, of all of the groups of people I could possibly write for, the assholes who “read” this website have rank right down there near the bottom”

    Well, I say a blogger is as a blogger’s readers are, but maybe I’m also just racist like that.

    • daesonesb

      Wait. How does that make you racist? Bloggers are a race now?

      What you said would be true if XXL was JUST bols site. Its not. Most morons on here dont come here just to read him. The readership on here is way different than the readership on Dallaspenn.com, Byroncrawford.com, Cocaineblunts.com, illdoctrine.com, etc.

      And when I say way different, I mean way dumber.

  • b-ease

    Get the fuck outta here!!That nigga aint goin nowhere, what the fuck else is he gonna do?? Seriously.He really sounded like he had female genatalia on that myspace post. and how ironic is it that he’s bitching about the net, but he quits in a myspace blog. i mean, that’s just gay.also, if he is quitting, this is just damage control from his inevitable drop from Atlantic records (which he probably got wind of).

    If he does go (he’s not),but if he does i am going to miss him (pause).i guess his music was decent but im really upset because he looked like a likely inheritor of the saying insanse opposite of PC shit cuz its the first thing that pops into your head crown. But I guess 50′s gonna have that title a little longer. Which is fine by me, cuz that dude’s fucking hilarious. but this is all moot, cuz he aint quittin a damnedthing!

  • Saigon

    ** sigh **

  • Chad Biggz

    LOL!!!

  • http://pacemaker11.wordpress.com pacemaker

    Retirement

    On November 19, 2007 Saigon posted a blog on his myspace entitled “I QUIT……..”[3] stating he was quiting the music industry because of how the media spins what he says in interveiws and how they don’t care about his real message. Saigon said in his blog:

    Fuck this bum ass rap game anyway, its full of fake ass niggaz who pump poison to the kids, make a few dollars and act like theyre larger then life when they know their music is detrimental to their fucking communities, If it aint about sex, its about drugs or violence, where are the songs about getting an eduacation, or being responsible parents and shit, or stopping the Gang Violence…This shit is sickening………..SAIGON IS DEAD…Should I say Ill slap a rapper so they run and put it in all their news section and gossip columns..Okay Ill slap the shit outta EVERY Rapper hows that….I QUIT, Now I have time to focus on my non profit organazation, In Arms Reach/Abandoned Nation, Please if you get the chance, check out Inarmsreach.org and lend your support to the work we do for the children in NYC whose parent(s) are incarcerated, Thank You now I gotta figure out how Im gonna break this to Just Blaze……THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD….hahahahahahaha PROPHECY

    The entire blog can be read here. Later in the day Saigon gave a statement to HipHopGame.com confirming what he said in his myspace blog.[4] He told HHG that he was going to focus more on his nonprofit organization In Arms Reach and Abandoned Nation. An orginization that helps New York City kids whose parents are incarcerated. So far neither Atlantic Records or Fort Knocks Entertainment have confirmed the retirement rumors.[5]

  • mtlrob

    saigon is a bitch for quiting before even starting. he’s just one big cry baby.. him and joe budden have more in common than they think

  • The Nicker

    Co-sign B-ease. What the fuck is he gonna do now? His career is uhhh taking off, so to speak, not winding down.

    Besides, I thought the whole shit with underground rappers is that they love the hip hop (pause), and they’d be doin’ this shit with or without a record deal. So now he knows he ain’t going to sell and would rather retire than run the last mile of the marathon.

    These days, gettin’ dropped off the majors is practically a blessing. Retiring? It’s like Big L said: “I don’t understand it . . . How MC’s take this rap game for granted.”

  • http://www.theunderwriters.blogspot.com THE UNDERWRITER

    Saigon needs T-Pain.

  • http://xxlmag.com The King

    Listen you butt fucking faggets, your missing my mans BOL whole point. Saigon signed to Just’s label which ain’t shit, but at least he gets paper, I’m sure he’s a few hundred thousand in (okay 150,200 max) but he is on tv and shit. He talked about how they only played certain parts from that interview to make him look like a typical rapper. Well dumb ass of course its the whole point of interviews, they try to get you to say outlandish shit, I am a fan of Saigon, since ’04, when his buzz was huge and rappers still sold records (somewaht). Rappers play themselves, your job is hard, stresses you out, you rhyme words dawg, beautifully I might ad, and you thousands of people whole praise you. I do surveys on the phone for 9 hours a day for 6.75-8.75 depending on quota, and I appericate it, I’m a young, hispanic dude with semi good health (I smoke, I drank), but I would not quit my job because people gave me shit, because I know shit could be worse. Saigon gets to make Hip-Hop, HIP-HOP, and with Just Blaze beats, I’m sure the politics of the rap game are a bitch, hell I read about em’, but if shit is that bad quit, don’t anounce your quitting just quit, go away.

  • http://xxlmag.com The King

    Listen you butt fucking faggets, your missing my mans BOL whole point. Saigon signed to Just’s label which ain’t shit, but at least he gets paper, I’m sure he’s a few hundred thousand in (okay 150,200 max) but he is on tv and shit. He talked about how they only played certain parts from that interview to make him look like a typical rapper. Well dumb ass of course its the whole point of interviews, they try to get you to say outlandish shit, I am a fan of Saigon, since ’04, when his buzz was huge and rappers still sold records (somewaht). Rappers play themselves, your job is hard, stresses you out, you rhyme words dawg, beautifully I might ad, and you thousands of people whole praise you. I do surveys on the phone for 9 hours a day for 6.75-8.75 depending on quota, and I appericate it, I’m a young, hispanic dude with semi good health (I smoke, I drank), but I would not quit my job because people gave me shit, because I know shit could be worse. Saigon gets to make Hip-Hop, HIP-HOP, and with Just Blaze beats, I’m sure the politics of the rap game are a bitch, hell I read about em’, but if shit is that bad quit, don’t anounce your quitting just quit, go away.

  • yaboy

    saigon is the truth.

    go listen to ‘stocking cap’ ‘the color purple’ ‘the letter P’ ‘ desperados’ and any other track you can find…

    if sai is really done its a loss for hiphop…

  • King B

    Foreal I think Sai will drop his album but after that I think we won’t hear no more new music from him unless he pulls a jay-z

    • http://xxlmag.comyourassoffthissite The Real KIng

      This motherfucker right here… cock boy drop the name before I have to ether your ass off this site! I’M THE THREAD FATHER BITCH BOY!!!!

    • http://xxlmag.com The Real King

      This guy is a queer, a but fucking faget! No one gives a shit what you think fake ass king!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • Ghost Deini

    Of course he’s gonna poll last. He never put out an album, and all those names are LEGENDS except Wayne, who’s the hottest rapper out right now(I don’t know why). Fuck what he does behind the scenes, his music is great. Everybody else can see that he’s a great talent, EXCEPT YOU and all the other wayne dickriders. Your views are trash, you’re so quick to call somebody “the ghey”, you’re all about “shock value”. I can’t even be that mad though, if i was a 350 pound black virgin speaking like Michael Jackson I’d prolly hate everything too.

  • LOL

    He spits on more than just a mic

  • LOL

    i mean just more than a mic

  • LOL

    i mean….ahh fuggetit

    • Cuban Link

      lmao

  • Manwhich

    I know how to fix all this. We all get on our Hitler shit and just erase ever rapper from the face of the planet and then continue to just start the fuck over. Maybe then rap will go in the right direction if we press the damn ‘reset’ button. Go head, call me a hater and an evil person, fine with me. Better yet, we can do it Hostel style. I’ll pay a couple hundred thousand to torture Chingy or Soulja Boy till they promise to never rap again. Apeshit.

  • DirtDogggy

    I never gave this bitch any props even though all the Stans kept his dick in thier slobering mouth rotation. He talks like he’s Mike Tyson in his prime with the slap/fist game.

    So Sy-gone for ever, you know there’s more money to be made in boxing rite ? so let’s see it, show us the mac mittens game, I’m sure you’ll have fun getting your ass wooped in the ring when your true skills come out, I mean it won’t be woman or 100lbs Progy in there with you, but give it a go, I’d pay to see that. For real though your rhymes are ave and your fist game is ave, please prove me wrong.

  • T.R.E.Y.

    Bol’s running out of ideas.

  • moresickaMC

    No denying Saigon is one of the most exciting rappers out now(no homo). My theory is that something happened to him in jail(pause) where he spent most of his life and he tries to cover it up…its aint hard to tell by how he acts.

  • moresickaMC

    Bol, whats your op of the 60′s, early 70s music resurgence(dap kings,american gangster,winehouse,anthony hamilton song).

    think 60s can come back? personally im lovin the sounds

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=16541 WritersBlock

    simon says saigon stomp the shit outta suckas/
    slam his head on the cement and stomp it until he suffers/My son says your son scared of societies shit list/
    Sick as the second stage of siphylis and swift as the Savior’s scripture/

    (**whoo kid gun shots*)

    ill cop saigons cd before all those dudes

    • http://www.liveagl.com AlexDelarge

      How unfortunate..
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  • Cuban Link

    First of all, think how many people ACTUALLY read your site Bol.Thats not the best place to get your facts from, and plus people probably dont vote for it because noone actually believed it was gonna come out.I didnt at least, and it turns out Im right.

    Second, Saigon already beat the shit out of a woman, remember?I think it was his ex or some shit

    And last, I think this shits getting deeper than just Saigon PMSing again.Check out Just Blaze’s About me on his myspace

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=41456655

    Sounds like hes pissed at something

  • http://www.liveagl.com AlexDelarge

    This is unfortunate, I think he could of sold something but i guess when your buying a dude’s cd your not just buying the music your buying the image and his image was just like everybody elses..(boring like..)..but who knows if studied the game, he could of done it instead of quitting (WHO THE HELL QUITS RAPPING LIKE THAT UGHH..)

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  • http://www.rizzleworld.blogspot.com allnice

    Saigon never said anything that stuck with me and I have been listening to his mixtape songs since last year. Even the Pain In My Life song was a little too brutal for me even though Ludacris pretty much remade it into a much smoother track. I don’t think that he is batshit because even “smart” people lose it when they are cornered, but I do think he is a loser if he quits.

    Why would he quit when he is so close to coming out? All he has been doing lately is whining and complaining about his release date instead of getting his hustle on. I guess since he got signed he thinks he has the right to kick back and not do anything. While he is kicking back, he must have saw everyone else getting their stuff finished and released because they are grinding son. Entourage and a few false promises do not equal success in the rap biz homey.

    He can’t be crazy if he is this much of a pussy. Crazy would be throwing T.V.’s out the window and threatening people’s lives if you don’t release the album. Instead of beating up cats like Prodigy, why doesn’t he slap the shit out of some label executive?

    Only losers whine and complain like a bitch. Winners step their game up, challenge themselves, and everyone around them. They adapt to the game and make a real change. That song he released was wack, simple as that. He needs to get back in the study and stop masturbating his own ego with slick rhymes that don’t cut it anymore. Just make a good record with some catchy shit people will like, blow up, and then do the Jay-Z woe-is-me-I-was-a-hustler deal when you are already famous. Makes sense to me…..

  • http://www.theunderwriters.blogspot.com THE UNDERWRITER

    Saigon needs T-Pain. Or Akon.

    Tell me I’m wrong… You know you’d bump it. Nolo.

    • blacker cracker

      dude, i thought u would quit posting after you got ethered by og bobbyj. i mean, if you would have got ethered by tpar, at least it could been like you got schooled by a jay or a nas. but that shit was like gucci mane getting sonned by young jeezy.

      and no, i would listen to it UNTIL u put tpain on it

  • bidness mayn

    underwriteer
    i pay losers like you $20 at parties to reverse felch(wikipedia it) my diarrhea for a good laugh. you stay losing doggie

  • http://www.theunderwriters.blogspot.com THE UNDERWRITER

    Wait a minute…

    Are you still awake, Cracker?

    If I have to pull my pecker from your Mom’s ass one more time to send you back to bed, you’re going to boot camp in the morning.

    And stop trying to get me in an argument. You know I put the hurt on your gay lover Hoe-G Bobbing for Johnsons. Misdirection only works on you.

    You really wanna be next?

    Go head.

    • blacker crakcer

      fo real do, all joking aside, let’s get together on thanksgivin so you can gobble my turkey, yoiu gravy guzzlin fruitcake, i like your style and want to hang out wit you, if you’re in atlant , im in jacktown

  • Ryan

    FREE BIG LURCH!!!!

  • underwriterisgay

    how did this keyboard ass bandit underwriter get so tough ? on the mean streets of microsoft street no doubt god i hate black people

  • http://xxlmag.com King Ben

    YEAH FREE BIG LURCH!!!!!!!!!!

  • CHICAGO “G”

    Fuck Saigon, southside Chi ain’t feeling dude i’ve never heard anybody bumping him in they whip in this hood… Saigon is using this as a promotional tool to get people talking and blogs written in a desperate attempt at generating interest for his album… Honestly some of his stuff is ok but outside of NY saigon has no future…

  • j

    bol your stupid