It Was All Good Just A Week Ago

Ski Beatz, who produced “Dead Presidents” and a bunch of other Jay-Z shit over the years, may be the victim of a flagrant beat jack on Jay’s new opus American Gangster.

What do you think, did Jermaine and No ID get Ski for his track or what?


Ski Beatz- “Ballin” (Instrumental)


Jay-Z “Fallin” (Produced by Jermaine Dupri, co-produced by No ID)

Upon hearing the track, Ski had the following to say:

“I did the beat first. That beat got played for so many people. I sent it out. [They] could have bit. But that doesn’t necessarily mean [he bit] when you fucking with samples; [they] could have just found the same one. I’ll let the people decide. I got my new artist Pittsburgh Slim signed over at Def Jam, [so] how ironic.”

  • clammy claude

    FIRST YOU FUCKERSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    o btw i am so sick of all u dumb ass fuck down south NIGGERZZZ yall r trash with ur dumb ass ring tone hits….

    • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

      Tell em why you mad son!

      BTW First sayers are with the gays.

    • E$

      You can hate….your girl don’t

    • shit

      fuck you clammy claude you ignorant bitch! Only reason why you hate niggaz is because your grandparents told you to.. Get your own brain bitch!!!!

  • http://www.tommyknox.com slick

    yo peep snoop dogg’s ballin
    from paid the cost to be the boss
    and tell me who had that shit first
    come on now’

    • mikenice

      oo shit ur right.. but they didnt sample nuttin jus they re sang that part.. but still u got a point

  • http://www.myspace.com/canaydamusic canayda

    MAN SKI IS MY HOMEY AN HE MADE REASONABLE DOUBT! AN CAMP LO! THATS A CLOSE CALL I THINK HOV HAD A TUFF DECISION BCUZ THE HOOK ON THE NEW TRACK IS CRAZY BUT TO ME SKI JOINT BANG BANG!! AN COME ON MAN THATS YA DOG! CLOSE CALL THO BOTH ARE INCREDIBLE TRACKS

    SHOUT OUT TO SKI AN EVERYBODY IN VA! NC MD DC
    WE NEED OUR TIME!!

  • BK Cyph

    Hell yeah JD and NO ID jacked Ski’s joint. Its clear as day. Ski is just playin politician cuz he got that Def Jam deal.

    While its geat to see Ski finally get his just do, it would’ve been ill to see him and Hov reunited again…

    its a dirty game!

    • Funny…

      Not too clear as day… When you hear the story how that song came together… JD did that one in the studio for Jay on the spot.

  • D Lux

    i think it was jacked. sounded like the juss lowered the pitch and took the beat. i gotta go back and listen to it if the drums sound da same

  • papi

    LOL!!!true
    but ski got f*ck sweet!!!!
    lol

  • yolanda

    well it ain’t the first time jiggas stole//.

  • Say Qua

    The drums sound better on No ID’s version. In this sense, who cares if Ski did it first. And to be clear, c’mon – let’s be real-Jermaine Dupri doesn’t sit around and chop samples…So this is No ID’s beat. Ski shouldn’t have taken the sample so clean and it prolly wouldna got jacked…plus it woulda been a good look for Jay to have a Ski beat on this album of all albums.

  • TK1

    Jack move! I think that was jacked DAWG!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    It’s like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.

    • Joey Wack

      *floor*

    • ill fittin

      did you just quote an alanis morrissete song?

    • http://www.xxlmag.com EReal

      Are you serious with this shit?

      Bol, you’re such a faggot.

  • j-rob

    WTF…..where’s story about T.I

    it’s friday the 26th write a story about the king.

    FREE T.I FREE T.I FREE T.I

    FREE T.I FREE T.I FREE T.I

    FREE T.I FREE T.I FREE T.I

    FREE T.I FREE T.I FREE T.I

  • j-rob

    T.I is FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

    HHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

    lil flip better run

  • hiphop

    I don’t know about bittin this shit, but this track is FIRE!

  • Tek

    IT’s different enough. People use the same samples all the time. Ski’s lost on this one. I like the No ID version better..

  • Tracy Lee

    Damn, thats some greasy work, shame on Jermaine for jacking that beat – its the kind of thing I would expect someone like Just Blaze to do – but not Jermaine.

  • Josh

    The real question for me is did Frequency (of Snoop Dogg – “Think About It” fame) get jacked? The beat he gave 6th Sense for “Untitled” on “Highing Fly” album is the same beat as “Sweet”

  • Around and Around

    Dam sounds pretty similar, they should at least send Ski a gift basket.

  • Cali Black

    Slick was right. Snoop had it first. Quite whinin bitch niggas.

  • Yo

    Minus the intro shit was bit. I mean its basically the same beat. not nearly different enough. I mean its hot. Its real fuckin hot but come on.

  • r

    Hey shit Happen but the track is hot. Hov is back.

  • Tony

    which came first snoop who paid the cost to be the boss or Reasonable doubt. I hat to tell you but Reasonable doubt is from 96 and paid the cost to be the boss wasnt untill like 99 or so maybe 98 So im thinkin yall idiots need to drop the snoop thing cause he isnt even in the discussion unless he jacked it to

    Peace

  • Trackflow

    A production team called Teknclips have the same sample…It’s called “This Ones for You” but teknclips came out with the sample first.

  • TAKE THAT

    SNOOP GOT THAT SAMPLE ON ON A SONG CALLED “FALLIN” ON THE CD WITH “BEAUTIFUL”, “PIMP SLAP”, “CHURRCH”, “PAID THE COST TO BE THE BOOS”?

  • bb

    sowhat if anything jay made it sound betta lol northsidebiz197 is the screenname

  • Tyler

    Yea’ dat shit don’t even sound like JD’s style even tho’ he is a beast. Dude got jacked on’dat one.
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  • tj

    o the song is the shit i think its better than ever song on the last album

  • SUN

    niggas even chopped the same damn way just made the drums heavier to try to hide it smh fuck biters man

  • SUN

    and to all the people talking and dont really know much about producing it isnt really the sample itself, its how its chopped & if u listen…niggas chopped it the same way as him…that’s biting

    but No I.D. is the man, i never thought he’d bite shit…probably bitch ass JD’s influence

  • streeetqize

    yea slick was right snoop had a song using the same sample produce by supercat or battlecat forgot dude’s name that shit was hot

  • 4one2

    yo that shit is exactly the same all the way down to the violins in the fucking background…ski is right jermaine is JACKINNN!!!! thats weak…get paid ski

  • Ty

    As I listen to the song, which is pure fire by the way, the story that Jay-z paints reminds me of the current TI situation.

  • Ty

    Oh by the way, in no way shape or form did JD produce this track. This track has NO I.D. written all over it.

    • BK Cyph

      Well actually NO ID is JD’s producer. JD talks about it in his new book babout his team of producers that he keeps under his wing. He likens them to session musicians on some quincy jones shit.

      • Ty

        Understood, but why is JD still named as a producer? I’m sure he probably told NO i.d. to adjust a level or two and considers that for production credit.

  • Louis Rich

    First off if anybody got jacked it was the dramatics so you can’t jack a beat when it was already bean jacked.

    the original is called “Falling” by The Dramactics

  • me

    THESE IZ FAKE AZZ PRODUCERS…WHY YOU CRYING FOR I DID THIS FIRST I DID THAT FIRST…FUCK EM REAL PRODUCERS DON’T SAMPLE…
    COME ON MAN BE ORIGINAL AND MAKE YOUR OWN BEAT FROM SCRATCH!!!

    • SUN

      this is why this blog shit is played out…stupid responses like this

      if you have nothing to say about the situation more than “blah blah real producers don’t sample” which makes no damn sense whatsoever than shut the fuck up and don’t say shit at all

      Like it or not this Hip Hop shit is built on sampling you faggot

  • Biggie

    quit whining muthafucka & even i he did take the beat, he did u a favor by not lettin u embarras yourself.

  • Depp

    Yo it’s a full time jack move…i aint gonna hate Ski said he shopped that shit round to everyone somebody esle picked that shit up gave it a spit shine…jay does what he does best…but what’s been leaked on the net aint the final album it’s missing 2-3 tracks from it…So go buy that shit on Nov 6 support real hip-hop! Church!

  • http://myspace.com/grindmodemusic No ID

    Damn, don’t yall read what’s said about these things before yall start these rumors… JD did that beat and gave me co-prod because I gave him co-prod on my joint Success… I gave him some suggestions after he made the beat, and I don’t know Ski… This internet info is out of control… I’m a veteran… My track record speaks for itself… I don’t have to jack anyone, and I respect Ski as a producer… That’s where it ends… Go read the XXL about how all of the songs were created… As much work as I put in and people are doing my style, I should be the LAST one accused of jacking a sample.

  • http://myspace.com/grindmodemusic No ID

    FYI JD did fallin… He gave me co-prod because I gave him co-prod on Success… I gave him some suggestions, but that’s his beat… I saw him do it and so did Jay and everyone else in the studio. I have the utmost respect for Ski, but I have never met him or heard a beat tape from him. My track record speaks for itself… Never have jacked and I never will… I don’t even understand why my name would come up in something like this. XXL article breaks down the making of the album… I work with JD so we roll together… I thought XXL was a little more credible with their info than to push this like it’s true… But I guess anything for the ratings… But I take my craft seriously… I don’t JACK!!!

  • Brodiw

    I remember back in the summer aroubd the time when Ski put out the making of dead presidents where he said he was back in the stu with Jay…. coincidence ?

  • moresickaMC

    if Ski made that first. its clearly a straight jack….its chopped the same. shame coz its one of the better trax one AG

  • the doctor says

    come on man whats the odds of someone do the same sample like that….most people dont even know the orgiginal song. Its not an old popular song, so the odds say they heard his beat and bit it

  • Poster Child For Flyness

    Yall niggas is crazy arguin over who the damn beat for……listen to this track.. .Jay murked the shit out of it….this is one of the fewer mc’s that dont need a hot track from a hot producer for people to listen….a homeless person can be bangin on pots and pans in the background…call the album “KICKIN CANS FOR A LIVING”…and Im gone still buy his shit..ITS THE ROC BITCH HOLLA! OH AND FUCK THAT FIRST SHIT IM THE FLYEST NIGGA IN WEB HISTORY, YA DIG

  • UnderthaPurpleTrees

    C’mon… that is a literal Beat Jack (reminicent of Cube vs. Cypress hill and/or King Sun)… A sampler got sampled… ha.. Anyway JD is a producer…..and not a beat maker.. (So like Dr.DRE did to DAZ so many times… he probably picked that beat up and ran with it). and No ID is lazy … and probably took that shit just to get paid…..

  • Nic Diamonds

    Shit happens all the time I have the same beat as the Gossip Lil Wayne
    and I have been sending it out for a while but who can bitch its a sample.

  • sole1

    ahh u dicks, i didnt wanna hear that hov song yet
    say spoiler alert or some shit next time

  • Tha Real King

    Look even if it was or was not
    snoop had it first on ballin
    check it out if u dont belive me

  • Coop

    I’m sorry the JD Version is in a different world.

  • Depp

    Yo it’s a fulltime jack move!!

  • Ali

    yea dont really give a shit about tha point of this post…..but thanx 4 spoilin tha Hov song that shit is sick….I already heard 5 songs off American Gangster cuz of u muthafuckers

  • CULLI

    I DONT KNO…BUT MAN THAT TRACK WUS SICK REAL TALK AND YAH DOES KINDA REMIND YOU OF T.I.’S POSITION RIGHT NOW

  • LOL

    why the fuck do these N-WORDS KEEP TRYINA PUSH WHITE RAPPERS.

    WHITE PEOPEL LIKE RAP, WE GET IT MOVE ON , STUPID ASS HOUSENIGGAS

    ALWAYS TRYINA PUT THE WHITE MAN ON AND MAKE HIM HAPPY.

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    FUCKOUTAAHERE

  • dj Chowder

    so what. they used the same simple. who gives a fuck the song is sick. i dont care how they made it.

  • Jizzumagician

    Ski’s beat was good but to sloppy
    it may be a bite as far as a sample
    bite but the latter (new) version is
    way better & I don’t thnk jay would
    knowingly jack ski..but then again
    jay is a gangsta right? LMAO hotness

  • paychexx

    well its clear who bring the best out of hov. ski-beats and premier. the song is sick as fuck!!! all you other rappers fall back. hov is holdin it down until nas get ready. peace

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  • Rodjilius

    well looks like it is a real similar beat i guess he did get jacked still hot track

  • premiere1

    It dont matter if a billion people used the same sample, those billion other people are not associated as closely to each other as Ski Beats and Jay-Z are to No ID and J Dupri. In other words its more than a coincidence that of all the samples No ID could have used for Jay-Z, he just happened to use one that was shopped to Jay-Z by Ski Beats? Even if Snoop or his baby momma’s cousins sister used the same sample? C’mon!!!!

  • KARMA

    right ski…let the people decide…the shit jigga’s been doing is going to get thicker and hit the fan sooner than you think….stay tuned!

  • H-LO

    HOV is back – motion picture shit (wait, he said that over a Ski beat 10 years ago)!

  • emanthefirst

    snoop dogg used this song back in the day

  • patkilpat

    Man fuck biting but this seems like they came acrossed the same sample. Fuck man if it were just Jermaine I’d raise my eyebrows but No ID digs.

    I think SKI flipped it better.

  • Apex

    “Rap is an art, you can’t own no loops
    It’s how you hook it up with the rhyme style, troop”
    -Guru

    • SUN

      YEA TRUE BUT THE NIGGA TOOK THE SAME CHOPS HE DID THAT AINT NO DAMN COINCIDENCE THATS BITING

      I DONT GET WHAT U CATS DONT GET ABOUT THAT IT AINT NO DAMN COICIDENCE U CAN TELL HOW SKI CHOPPED THE DAMN SAMPLE ALL NO ID DID WAS TAKE HIS CHOPS N ADD HEAVIER DRUMS THATS SOME WACK ASS BITIN SHIT

  • http://www.myspace.com/skibeatzmusic Ski

    Thats the risk you run when you sample i made that track two years ago im not mad
    I think JD & No ID did the damn thing with the track Much respect to you guys

    GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE!!

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  • yo son

    thats a flagrant faul all the way

  • http://www.myspace.com/dluxnyc D.L.U.X

    Definitely used the same drums and arrangement. But this sample is about 5 years old from Snoop’s album. With the original artists. Everyone’s gonna get paid!!!!! So it doesn’t really matter.

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  • Dumass Deep East Oakland.

    What the fuck are you clowns talking about how the hell can you jack someone’s beat when youre using a fucking sample?!?!?!?!?!?!

    what kind of dumb shit is that?they used the same sample ok…. who gives a shit it happens when you start ur beat from an un-original idea to me jd’s version is hotter so aye its whatever how many times has the isley brothers between the sheets sample been used? like a fukin gajillion times come on now get real.

  • http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/BIGRAM201 ImbIGyAdIG

    hell yeah he got jacked…but wit samples its hard to cliam shit

    for real shit check this
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  • purple tape

    This is gay …everyone knows JD is a fucking biter anyways

  • bitterfrshness

    Did he get jacked? Yeah, he did BUT it’s hotter when Jay got it. Samples is like fair game now a days, sad but true.

    JD is trash, & it don’t sound nothing like the usual garbage he produces. I thought it was Kanye actually.

    Sorry but Ski makes the sample seem cheap, Jay livened it up.

  • http://WWW.HOODINTELLIGENCE.COM Dj Victorious

    my shit is this. dude’s giving co-producer to people who aint do shit on the beat. that’s cool and that’s love and shit..but that right there ruins the integrity of alot of shit.
    you cant even believe credits no more.

    and like some body said. it was a sample.
    when its a sample..you cant blame nobody.
    oh yea…and no i.d. is one of the best to ever do the shit.

  • fg

    yo ths beat is ridicuous.but jays current version is bloodstained cocaine.it cant be fucked with.

  • mikenice

    nah , it could be a coincidence because the sample is too obvious , besides no id’s sounds way better , ski’s shit sounds sloppy , but no id’s sounds cleaner