Free the Jena Six?

Speaking of Mos Def, I see he’s headed down to Louisiana to rally in favor of the Jena Six. He may not be sure whether or not bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11, but he’s for damn certain this bullshit down in Louisiana is a miscarriage of justice, and he’s urging his fellow rappers to join him. Interestingly enough, I wonder if there isn’t a parallel to be drawn between the Jena Six and the terrorist attacks that took place six years ago today.

While Mos Def claims to not believe that Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda had anything to do with 9/11, you get the idea that he doesn’t give a shit whether they did it one way or the other, not unlike many black people’s view of the OJ trial. Indeed, when asked by Bill Maher to elaborate on why he’s so certain the official story re: 9/11 is BS, Mos mentions that he’s not the only one who believes that it is and then launches into a whole litany of things cracka-ass crackas here in the US are guilty of, and why aren’t we calling that terrorism?

As I mentioned here yesterday, I’m not sure how you can read this as anything other than him suggesting that the attacks of 9/11 were justified. Granted Mos Def is hardly the first person to suggest that the attacks of September 11th had to do with anything other than the fact that “they hate us for our freedom,” as President Sieg Howdy once put forth; similar arguments have been put forth by the likes of Ron Paul and Ward Churchill and even KRS-One. But I think Mos Def even goes them one further in that he almost seems to be aligning himself with the terrorists.

Where as I’m pretty sure those other guys meant to suggest that the murder of 3,000 (more or less) innocent people may have been justified in the mind of a crazed islamofascist, if not in a more general sense, Mos Def is careful not to draw any such distinction. Every time Bill would bring up the fact that there’s crazed Muslim fucks out there who would love to see us all dead, Mos immediately jumped to some shit someone else did that could be construed as terrorism, if not under the legal definition. You wonder what he meant to suggest.

Is it any wonder, then, that Mos Def would take up the case of the Jena Six as his cause du jour? As it occurred to me, over my morning coffee just now, there’s some obvious correlations to be drawn between the brutal beating of some racist cracka-ass cracka high school student and the brutal murders of 3,000 of the little Eichmanns of American economic imperialism six years ago today. Note that it’s definitely not my goal here to draw some sort of moral equivalency between those juvenile delinquents down in Louisiana and the terrorists, or to suggest that the railroading of the Jena Six isn’t yet another example of nasty, racist, Errol Morris-style redneck justice. I’m just saying.

Thanks to the liberal Jew-run media, it’s a little known fact that Osama bin Laden had reasons for knocking down the twin towers other than the fact that he hates us for our freedom, which I’m sure he does anyway. The main beef between al Qaeda and the US, as stated by the man himself back in the late ’90s, is the American imperial presence in the Middle East, particularly with regard to our support of Israel and our military bases in Saudi Arabia. Similarly, the origin of the dispute that eventually lead to the fateful ass whippin’ in the Jena Six case was a silly turf battle over black kids’ right to sit under the rather ironically titled tree of knowledge.

I think we can all agree that the idea of white kids having a tree that only they’re allowed to sit under is the kind of bizarre, racist bullshit that could take place in a rural, southern shit hole of a town like Jena, Louisiana. But is there a difference between these cracka-ass cracka’s “knowledge tree” and the terrorists’ “holy land” in the Saudi Arabia? Well obviously one is here in the US and the other is over in the Middle East, but I’d say the gist of these two issues is roughly the same: insane, bigoted fucks attempting to wield an ideology that’s based on intolerance and is ultimately founded in bullshit (i.e. Islam and white supremacy).

In both cases, maybe none of this shit would have ever happened had someone with some sense stepped in and attempted to sort this all out before it ultimately erupted into violence. In the case of the Jena Six, the superintendent was in the wrong for not expelling the students and reporting their hate crime to the proper authorities. Similarly, I know the UN has issued plenty of orders to Israel to cut out their apartheid bullshit, pretty much all of which they’ve ignored. And it couldn’t have possibly helped matters that the US elected President Sieg Howdy and his gang of oil-soaked ne’er do wells into office a mere matter of months before the attack.

And granted I think we were all kinda pissed to see Sieg Howdy take office, but does there not come a point where we put our foot down against violence, no matter how justified it can be perceived as being? I mean, how come Mos Def can’t just admit that it was wrong what those islamofascists did to us on 9/11? As I alluded to earlier, I wonder if there’s not a connection between this “enemy of my enemy is my friend” mentality and black people’s utter amusement with the OJ verdict and, now, this drive to free the Jena Six, as if they’re not guilty of beating a kid unconscious and then beating him some more. I’m not saying we’re in the wrong for taking up the cause of the Jena Six. I’m just saying.

  • Poop

    1st bitches!!!

  • these posts are racist

    Nothing justifies what happened on 9-11. While it is true US foriegn policy towards the middle east is messed up, assists Israel in its tyranny and oppression of the Palestinian people, etc. nothing justifies what happened on 9/11/01. Nothing. To suggest the contrary is wrong.

    BOL, your condemnation of Islam as a religion based on intolerance, etc. is also wrong, factually wrong. Islam is the most diverse religion on the planet and is factually and textually tolerant. Your fake analysis of Islam is simply wrong and sounded in pure bigotry.

    While I disagree with a lot of what Mos Def has stated he believes to be true, i think you are wrong for labeling him “with the terrorists”, as that is simply a McCarthy-esque tactic that stifles discussion and is used to chill people with different or non mainstream opinons from speaking out.

  • cc

    This is the first time I highly disagree with you. I respect Mos Def for saying what most just think. Free Jena 6!!!!!!!

  • god

    no, coon.

  • Around and Around

    dam there’s just to much to address in this bigot spew, so I’ll just say fuck you and everything you stand for bitch.

  • Fire

    This Jena 6 thing needs to be corrected. The terms that the judge laid down are excessive and violate the 8th Amendment of the US Constitution, which is this:
    “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”
    What they’re doing in Jena is a huge example of cruel and unusual punishment, and I hope it gets sorted out with the severe charges against the six being dropped. No one’s denying that they shouldn’t be punished for what they did, but facing jail for 20-100 years just because they retaliated against racist white kids? No. The punishment should be made to fit the crime. Those racist white kids should be punished as well.

  • NoMamesBuey

    SMH at Bol’s hypocrisy of calling other than himself “insane, bigoted fucks”.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    You piece of shit. You don’t deserve to have such a medium. Why did you present the Jena 6 in a bad light. All they did was stand up against something that is wrong. They live in a racist town stuck in the 50′s and responded to the blatant racism that was displayed. Why didn’t you mention the black boy that got beat up at the white party. How about when a white boy pulled a shotgun out on them. Did he get charged? This is one sided justice or should i say injustice. The DA gathered all of the black students in a gymnasium and told them he could end their life with a stroke of a pen. These are juveniles not delinquents.

    I see no wrong in defending your land and way of life. So does America decide what is right and wrong. Who died and made them king. America is committing acts of terrorism as we speak. The 9/11 attacks was orchestrated as a catalyst to start a “crusade”. A crusade to change the middle eastern’s way of life including the government. Its called world domination. They want war because it serves to purposes. More money for them (the guys who build the weapons and loan the money to buy the weapons) and more chaos for the world. They want to force the people of this planet into submission and acceptance of a Totalitarian state.

    You twisted views on things allows you to filter out the truth and only believe what you want to. Its called mind control and propaganda. All you are doing is feeding air to that fire with this nonsense. Total mis-education.

  • younganswer

    word

  • NoMamesBuey

    “While Mos Def claims to not believe that Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda had anything to do with 9/11″

    I saw the clip, Mos never said that. Mos basically said he had doubts on the official Government story.

  • Fire

    This might be one of the first times I’ve ever done this, but I agree with The DJ Formerly Known As N-Credible. You have to look at both sides of a case and what led up to the event, and what he said in his comment was on point. The racist white kids provoked them, so why aren’t they being punished?

  • dream hampton

    great writer. thinker, not so much.

  • Dr Flav

    Im truly sick of seeing, terrorism, Islam, Muslim, Kanye, 50, Sept 11, and the other recycled bull that prevails on these boards. Y’all bitches should enlist in the Army or something, because some of us Americans have real American issues to deal with that are terrifying enough, besides the fact the Iraqi are getting along. One day you might wake up and see its about MONEY and using the fear and fighting of an intangible threat (terror), to fleece tax and gasoline money out of us common citizens.

  • LowEndofDaChi

    It’s amazing how something as controversial as the Jena 6 situation gets hardly no media attention but Michael Vick sponsoring a dogfighting ring or Lindsay Lohan wildin out that drunk tip gets over-publicized.

    I know that’s off topic, but damn.

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    I would go back into the post and highlight the parts where I said the railroading of the Jena Six was racist and wrong, for the NBreds of the world, but since when has what I actually said in the post ever been the issue?

  • N.O. 4 life

    in louisana those black dudes shoulda knew what was gonna happen afterward…this is the place where kids get shot by police after they are in cuffs…sep 11 was not deserved but its americas fault…these white folks are constantly making america a target

  • tgreen

    you got to be kidding me….if you r dumb ass look at the dvd Loose Change…you may change your dumb ass mind. 9/11 WAS A JOKE BACK THEN WHEN FLAVA FLAV SAID IT AND IT ITS A JOKE NOW….check out loose change and then tell me this shit wasn’t planned

  • smog

    insane, bigoted fucks attempting to wield an ideology that’s based on intolerance and is ultimately founded in bullshit (i.e. Islam and white supremacy). im really surprised no one gave you shit for comparing Islam to white supremacy.

  • Fernando

    Bol is a warrior of truth.

  • Worley

    I’m amused with this new trend of saying “while this is wrong, I agree with that.” Whatever man. Don’t try to sit on the fence. That only hurts ya ass. Take a position and hold ya ground.
    But never fear. After a comment like “the brutal murders of 3,000 of the little Eichmann’s of American economic imperialism six years ago today” we won’t be reading too much more from Bol.

  • unknown

    Jena 6 is a bad situation but homeboy does have a record as well. For other violent outburst but does not deserve this punishment. I just don’t like how our so call black leader (if you want to call them that) only jump for media driven issues. I don’t see them out here fighting for better education and more recreation for the inner city youth. Once this situation is over and done we will go back to the same ol living. This day and age the people of america has become very sensitive on a lot of issues. We got to many organization for too many problems. You can say this or do that without some one getting in there feelings and wanting to protest it. I think if we just own up to some things and stay in your own lane and stay focus on yourself, maybe then we can work with others. I think some people in the that are “famous” care but most are just another puppet. Al Shaprton and Jesse was on the new everyday about Imus story. Where are they now on this Jena 6 thing not as loud as Imus. For 9/11 that was Bad no matter how you look at it. There was babies and kids on those plans and buildings no child derserve that. I will say the government should have known that was coming we can’t play buddies with the whole middle east and not piss them off to the point of attack. We was allied to every country over there at one point it was bound to happen that one was going to get piss.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

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    Bol Says:

    September 11th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    I would go back into the post and highlight the parts where I said the railroading of the Jena Six was racist and wrong, for the NBreds of the world, but since when has what I actually said in the post ever been the issue?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Allow me to highlight where you posed them in a bad light…

    Bol says:
    …there’s some obvious correlations to be drawn between the brutal beating of some racist cracka-ass cracka high school student and the brutal murders of 3,000…

    BRUTAL…be careful with the words you choose…

    Bol says:
    …Note that it’s definitely not my goal here to draw some sort of moral equivalency between those juvenile delinquents down in Louisiana and the terrorists…

    DELINQUENTS…again be careful with the words you choose…

    Bol says:
    …the origin of the dispute that eventually lead to the fateful ass whippin’ in the Jena Six case was a silly turf battle over black kids’ right to sit under the rather ironically titled tree of knowledge…

    SILLY TURF BATTLE…tell me who was silly …the blacks…whites…or both…YOU STATEMENT IMPLIES BOTH…

    Bol Says:
    …as if they’re not guilty of beating a kid unconscious and then beating him some more…

    You presented this with a one sided tone and you are a lot like Obamma, trying to keep his balance on the fence that seperates white america from black america

  • Bol needs to do more research

    First, one of the biggest “Liberal Jew Run Media” outlets in America, the New York Times, is actually at least 10% owned by Arab Interests. Second any Liberal media outlet almost by definition takes a Pro Palestinian / anti Israel stance on issues, and you would know that if you actually read press coverage rather than what others tell you on the internets. Second, “Israel needing to cut off that aparthied shit”? There’s no aparthied in Israel, no laws against Palestians and no treatment of Palestinians as second class citizens. The only reasons that there are checkpoints and profiling is because many Palestians have this annoying habit of routinely trying to blow Israeli shit up. Last week, they launched rockets at a day care center full of kids. A day care center. You tell me what part of the game that is. The fact is from the start of the whole Palestinian situation, violence has been the only method used by the Palestinians, and anything you see from Israel is a reaction to that violence. Non violence worked for Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement, it worked for Gandhi against the British and would sure as hell work for the Palestinians. But they’ve never given it a shot. And as far as the Palestinian situation being a cause of 9/11, don’t be foolish. If Israel was gone tomorrow, Osama would keep on attacking anyone who didn’t agree with his version of Islam, which is exactly what Al Queda is doing to other muslims in Iraq. Also, next time you want to talk about TI’s and the liberal “Jew run media” and how they oppress Black people you should know that the whole movement to stop the genocide of Black people in Darfur was started and has been maintained by a Jew, not a “cracka ass cracka”, not by a “jig” and not by an arab.

  • Fire

    “In both cases, maybe none of this shit would have ever happened had someone with some sense stepped in and attempted to sort this all out before it ultimately erupted into violence. In the case of the Jena Six, the superintendent was in the wrong for not expelling the students and reporting their hate crime to the proper authorities.”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Co-sign.

  • The Spaniard

    “the brutal murders of 3,000 of the little Eichmann’s of American economic imperialism six years ago today”

    Like it or not, this is a true statement. My only issue is with the death sentence imposed by religous nut cases. I am of the opinion that all religous people are “nut cases” relatively speaking. It’s just that some are more apt to kill you while some are more apt to lay their life down for you but over all most are prone to ignoring logic at any cost.

  • Mas

    DJ formerly known as N-Credible, isn’t the reason the US is so hypocritical is because we are so quick to label others terrorists while we act the same way? I think Bol’s point was that while the motivation of the Jena 6 was right their actions were still wrong and should not be condoned. Instead of blindly following that cause we should condemn the acts of retaliation with the same moral capacity we reject the actions of those racist kids.

  • these posts are racist

    “Bol needs to do more research”

    Israel controls the lives of about 10 million people. Half of those people are not given equal rights under the law. That’s apartheid you dumb bitch.

    During American Slavery, there was a guy named Nat Turner. He killed innocent white people, kids, mothers, etc. Did his immoral actions make slaver OK? No.

    How dare you use examples of Palestinian violence against innocent Isralies to justify the blataent tyranny, oppression and apartheid against Palestinians.

  • Around and Around

    To the Zionist..I mean ‘bol needs to do more research’ Here’s concrete examples of the Times biased to Israel (formerly known as Palestine)

    Not to refute you, but to show others your zionist bullshit.
    ———
    On August 2, Human Rights Watch released a report that documented Israeli attacks on civilians. The report was harsh in its conclusions, noting that Israel’s excuse for civilian deaths in Lebanon—that Hezbollah fighters hide among non-combatants, therefore endangering that population—does not explain some of the more deadly attacks, which have happened away from any alleged Hezbollah activity. The Times (8/3/06) relayed this information about halfway through a story headlined: “Civilians Lose as Fighters Slip Into Fog of War.” The subhead read, “Lebanese Deaths Show Dilemma for Israel.”

    Shortly after, an Israeli airstrike killed about 30 farm workers near the border with Syria. Those deaths were mentioned in the Times on August 5, under a headline that focused instead on infrastructural damage: “Israeli Raids Destroy Bridges North of Beirut.” An Israeli attack several days later on August 8 in the Beirut suburb of Al-Shiya killed dozens of people. But readers of the Times were left mostly unaware, save for a passing mention in the paper’s August 10 edition of a funeral for some of the victims.

    The Human Rights Watch investigation provided some key examples of Lebanese deaths that barely registered in the New York Times. On July 13, a Lebanese cleric and 10 members of his family were killed by an Israeli airstrike in Dweir. The incident merited one sentence the following day in a Times story headlined “Israel Blockades Lebanon; Wide Strikes by Hezbollah.” A massive series of airstrikes in the Lebanese town of Sreifa on July 19 merited a brief mention in the Times on July 20; dozens of civilians were thought to have been killed. (Weeks later the Times reported from the town to survey the damage—8/16/06.)

    By contrast, deaths in Israel—though much less common—often seemed to be deemed more newsworthy. When 12 Israelis were killed (eight civilians and four soldiers), the New York Times put the story at the top of the August 4 front page, under the unambiguous headline “12 Israelis Die; Sheik Threatens to Bomb Tel Aviv.” Three days later a Hezbollah rocket attack killed a group of Israeli reservists, which merited front-page placement under the headline “Rocket Barrage Kills 15 Israelis Close to Border.”

  • these posts are racist

    US support for Isralie oppression and apartheid against Palestinians does result in the world hating us. That’s a fact. Peep this to learn more about the isralie lobby and how support for Israeli tyranny and oppression is harming US interests.

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

  • krb

    you need to look at the history of the CIA when they was called the OSS. which means; OVERSEAS SERCET SERVICE! if you know the history, you’ll chance your mind on alots of things about this bully ass goverment!

  • http://xxlmag.com Bol

    >First, one of the biggest “Liberal Jew Run Media” outlets in America, the New York Times, is actually at least 10% owned by Arab Interests.

    Let me guess, your parents couldn’t afford cable back in the 1990s.

  • krb

    you need to look at the history of the CIA and when they was called the OSS which means OVERSEAS SERCET SERVICE! and you might chance your mind about our bully ass goverment!

  • Niggers are dumb

    Uh…wow. The comments section for this column never ceases to fail and be failed with myopic, people with completely wrong beliefs and views. Although, isn’t that the point? Isn’t this column just here to provoke response and you sheep here to dole out uninformed knee-jerk rants that lack nuance and perspective?

    Mos was embarrassing on Maher and I’m officially done with the nigga. Fuck him. My patience is through.

    Cornel West is incapable of even remotely hitting any target. “Blues people”? The fuck did that have to do with anything? I want to like him, but he reaches so far and talks so much faux-pluralist shit. And his record sucked.

    And yes, Islam is the worst religion in the world. Of all of the world’s cults, its the only one that you cannot question or criticize without fearing for your safety. Despite the bright-eyed ignorant view of a “religion of peace” it must be noted that all religions serve good and evil purposes depending on the wielder or majority, and Islam is majority evil these days. Religion is more of a political ideology than anything close to Godliness these days, so why act shocked? And also, deriding Islam isn’t deriding all the beautiful cultural achievements of arabs and other swarthy asian types. It’s deriding a fucking CULT. Get off it. Jeez.

    Also, Crawford is right. And the failure of what seems to be his main commenters to even blithely recognize satire or that he kids a lot is sad.

  • http://xxlmag.com houston’s finest

    free the jena 6

  • thoreauly77

    bol-
    more appropriate would be “islamic fanaticism and white supremacy”. the religion of islam is tolerant and that is why it is the fastest growing religion in the world. it is one of the only religions that allows it’s new followers to incorporate indigenous beliefs, hence it’s rapid growth.

    n-cred- good points in the first paragraph. it is important to know why they reacted the way they did in order to provide context for the rest of the readers here (and the exclusion is not honest).

  • these posts are racist

    US support for Isralie oppression and apartheid against Palestinians does result in the world hating us. That’s a fact. Peep this to learn more about the isralie lobby and how support for Israeli tyranny and oppression is harming US interests.

    Peep the John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt Paper on the Pro-Israel lobby in America and how powerful it is and how it influences the US govt. to do things that are contrary to US national interests.

  • Around and Around

    thoreauly77 Says:

    September 11th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
    allows it’s new followers to incorporate indigenous beliefs, hence it’s rapid growth.
    —–
    Thoreauly77, there’s no doubt Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, but I disagree with your statement. Allowing indigenous beliefs would be considered ‘bid’ah’ in Islam which means inovation. And this is most definetly not allowed in Islam. Maybe I’m taking your use of ‘indigenous beliefs’ wrong. Because Islam most definetly allows the incorporation of different cultures, but seperately held beliefs, no, the religion itself is considered complete.

  • Bol needs to do more research

    “Israel controls the lives of about 10 million people. Half of those people are not given equal rights under the law. That’s apartheid you dumb bitch.”

    Hey, I’d appreciate it if you would let me know what equal rights Palestinians do not have under the law. Israel is a DEMOCRACY. Just like in America, Palestinians can work wherever they want, live wherever they want if they can afford it and vote for whomever they want to vote for (as evidenced by the recent election of Hamas members), date whomever they want to date and the list goes on. Apartied is a state sanctioned discrimination and separation against people based on race. There is no such thing in Israel. Again, the only reason that there are checkpoints for Palestinians in Israel is because of the threat many Palestinians cause to Israel and because many people have and continue to try to sneak bombs over and harm innocent people. If all the rocket attacks and suicide bombings stopped tomorrow, there wouldn’t be any need for Israel to feel threatened by Palestinian terrorists and no need for such heightened security. In fact you can make the argument that Israel is extremely tolerant of Palestinian violence and extremism. Can you imagine what the reaction would be in the US if a group in Brooklyn was launching rockets DAILY into Manhattan and routinely sending people to blow themselves up? Everyone in that group would be locked the f up with the quickness and immediately sent down to Guantanamo Bay. Of course all Palestinians are not terrorists, which is why Israel doesn’t treat them this way and gives them the benefit of the doubt. Unlike Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and all their friends, Israel does not TARGET civilians and goes to great lengths to do everything they can to prevent civilian casualties, so comparing them to Nat Turner just kinda makes you look foolish.
    I truly believe that Palestinian people want peace, the only problem is that their leadership seems to go in the opposite direction. Between Arafat’s flashing of the peace sign with one hand and calling for intifada with the other (not to mention plundering of the assets of the Palestinian government to the tune of 1.3 billion for his own fortune according to Forbes Magazine. Oh wait, they must be part of the liberal Jew media too. Dang) to Hamas a) refusing to acknowledge that Israel exists b) vowing to destroy Israel it’s not hard to see why steps toward peace are not being made.

    TO AROUND AND AROUND:
    It’s funny you chose a Human Rights Watch report to back your claim when they have a funny policy of not condemning suicide bombings in Israel, Iraq and did not condemn Hezbollah for randomly firing Kassam rockets at Israeli civilians during the height of the war.

    To Bol:
    Nah son, I had cable during the 90′s, with mad channels too.

  • maxwell

    All of this discussion is just that…..discussion.Everyone is willing to state an opinion on what is wrong with the world. Great!! We have identified the problems, how about someone do something about. Plenty of people talk, none do.
    Complain about the world all one wants, but as long as nothing is done about it the only changes we will see will be the number of complaints.
    Message, people, it’s only going to get worse.
    See ya in 2012.

  • Bol needs to do more research

    “Peep the John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt Paper on the Pro-Israel lobby in America and how powerful it is and how it influences the US govt. to do things that are contrary to US national interests.”

    Last time I checked, fighting terrorism is pretty high up there for US national interests. I dunno, maybe it’s just me.

  • T.R.E.Y.

    classic Bol.

    anyone who pulls that kinda bullshit with 9/11 ain’t ever gonna be taken seriously politically in my book. it’s like when people talk about the relationship between Islam and suicide bombings, and your knee-jerk “anyone other than the U.S.” apologist goes “Christians bombing abortion clinics!” or maybe they’ll mention the Unabomber. clearly, not understanding the difference between a few deranged motherfuckers here, and a persistent mentality there.

  • these posts are racist

    “Hey, I’d appreciate it if you would let me know what equal rights Palestinians do not have under the law. Israel is a DEMOCRACY. Just like in America”

    Ha! A democracy that controls the lives of over 4.5 million people but denies them the right to vote or hold citizenship, purely because they are not jewish? Hilarious.

  • Around and Around

    Zionist,

    Yeah every American should peep the John Mearsheimer & Walt paper, and also research the USS Cole and how Israel (Fomerly Known as Palestine) Bombed a US Ship with no justification.

    Israel(Fomerly Known as Palestine) is not a democracy, it’s a state for Jewish people only, last time I checked that’s not a inclusionist democracy. Sorry you stay losin. Everything you wasted your time writing is all lies, every single thing, facts are as Jimmy Carter said it is aparthied, Palistinian’s have no control over any of their land their resourses or their lives they’re completely dominated by Israel(Fomerly Known as Palestine) the most racist disgusting country since the Nazis. Just look at the death count it tells the entire story.

    And typical Zionist propaganda, actually Human Rights Watch did condemn Hezbollah on July 18, 2006.

    This is an issue every American should be concerned with our Gov’t subservience to Israel, (Formerly Known as Palestine) read the Mearsheimer/Walt paper.

  • bpeez

    first of all, Those young men down there did NOT beat that white boy unconscious. you’re saying it as if those boys deserve 20 years. c’mon dude. you need to read up on the facts before you start going off on an ignorant rant as you just displayed. Not intelligent at all.

  • jeff

    It is hard to know where to begin with a lot of black people and their thoughts. My father always taught me that a misdemeanor by a black man becomes a felony to a white court room. I believe that a lot of us end up in courtrooms because we act so hotheaded when it comes to certain situations. Black people fear being broke and white people fear a black planet, so with that being said…they are ALWAYS going to be in control when we are in the wrong. Whatever chance they have to throw us in the penetentiary for life or kill us, they are going to take full advantage of that. Truth be told, those six guys probably were trying to kill that white boy. Nat Turner and Denmark Vessey did, so how do you know that they weren’t? Had this been 150 years ago, the Jena 6 would have been hanged. I can respect beating a honky’s ass for all of that racial shit, but along with that comes a price. You either down for the cause, or u ain’t. Don’t ask for a pass. Be a man about it and inform the world that you were trying to make a statement. Nat and Denmark didn’t make no excuses. Don’t 6 to 1 a motherfucker and then say you weren’t trying to kill him. The fact that those white boys werent expelled for hanging those nooses and yapping those slurs shows you a lot about this country. If the law isn’t gonna admonish them for those acts, what makes you think that you can beat their asses without it backfiring on you? You can’t take certain matters in your own hands without being crucified. This ain’t a white man’s world, but it’s white man’s laws. The laws are created for them to remain on top. We are still documented as 3/5 of a human being in this country. How can we have a black candidate running for president and he doesn’t mention that? We are much too irresponsible and ignorant when it comes to actual fact/reality. Black people need to take a stand and stop letting these racist people get under your skin for everything. All changing flags, marching, etc. does is let a racist know that they’ve gotten inside of your head. When someone knows they can make you itch, they just waiting for you to scratch them. I understand wanting to kick a white boy’s ass (because i had several racial altercations in my life), but it ain’t worth it in the south. Vick fought them dogs below the mason dixon, genarlow got head below the mason dixon, and Jena, Louisiana is below the mason dixon. White folks are serving justice amongst themselves and their people when it comes to the law and prosecution, but it’s revenge against black people when it comes to the law….especially if we are beating up white boys and laying pipe to their daughters. Them dudes that fucked Emmitt Till up didn’t even get found guilty. The cops that whooped Rodney King’s ass didn’t get found guilty until after Los Angeles started rioting. History speaks to us, but we reject it because we are in 2007 and we don’t think people are racist anymore. We must be smarter. 1 white boy getting jumped = 6 black boys in jail. do the math. If this happened in every state in America once a year, we’d have 300 black men in prison. Ain’t worth it. Imagine 5 or 10 years from now. On top of that, we are killing each other over hoes and materials also. We aren’t even the majority in this country, so we don’t need to be canceling each other out.

  • therealwayno

    Bol u definitely should have kept these two issues separate. Ur whole dialog kinda low balls (nullus) the seriousness of the Jena Six. More shit went down than black kids sitting under a tree and white kids talking shit. Both sides took ass beatings but only one side got tried for murder by use of a deadly weapon made by Nike.

  • May

    @Jeff:

    That is the realest post on this blog. I commend you for that.

  • Bol needs to do more research

    “Everything you wasted your time writing is all lies, every single thing, facts are as Jimmy Carter said it is aparthied, Palistinian’s have no control over any of their land their resourses or their lives they’re completely dominated by Israel”

    First off, using Jimmy Carter as a reference for anything is a bad look, especially since he’s considered one of the worst presidents in American history and didn’t last more than one term. Not only did he completely wreck the economy and set a horrible precedent by negotiating with terrorists in Iran, but his weak foreign policy gave rise to the brutal regime of the Ayotollah in Iran and the need for the U.S. to back Saddam Hussein in Iraq as a buffer against Iran’s extremism. Second, is it me or did Palestinians just not elect Hamas to power? They vote for their own leaders, control their own government, create their own curriculum in schools, control their own schools, have their own television networks, businesses, etc. Tell me that one of these things is not true. It’s okay, I can wait. It sounds like they have plenty of control over their lives. The issue is not they don’t have control over their lives. The issue is that they use the control that they do have for negative actions like terrorism and extremism, which only makes their situation worse.

  • zionism is racism

    Zionist bitch.

    Israel controls millions of Palestinians’ lives as TPAR said and denies them the right to vote and doesn’t grant them citizenship. It is a colonial state, which will give a jew born and raised in Russia full citizenship while denying citizenship to a Palestinian born and raised, simply because he is not Jewish.

    Israel kills, tortures and imposes apartheid on innocent civilians on a daily. You’re attempt to rationalize all of this is disgusting.

  • Father Figure

    “Israel is a DEMOCRACY.”

    I look forward to seeing how Gaza votes in the next Israeli “election.”

    “If all the rocket attacks and suicide bombings stopped tomorrow, there wouldn’t be any need for Israel to feel threatened by Palestinian terrorists and no need for such heightened security.”

    Yes, and if your wife quit back-talking, you wouldn’t have to hit her so hard. Why won’t those pesky Palestinians just accept Israeli domination of their homeland? Jeez, some people won’t learn.

    “Unlike Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and all their friends, Israel does not TARGET civilians and goes to great lengths to do everything they can to prevent civilian casualties”

    Yes, Israel does a wonderful job minimizing casualties by dropping bombs into crowded markets. What peaceful people.

    “Last time I checked, fighting terrorism is pretty high up there for US national interests.”

    Yes, it is quite logical to spend billions of dollars fighting terrorism that our mindless support for Israel’s brutal occupation causes.

  • geico lizard

    im glad you touched on this topic more people need to hear about it and do something to keep the word out until they are free of all charges. RACISM IS STILL ALIVE IN AMERICA DONT LET MTV AND HOLLYWOOD FOOL YOU LIKE IT ISNT

  • thoreauly77

    around- substitute “customs” for “beliefs” then if it avoids a semantic argument. west africa is a perfect example of this idea in action, wouldn’t you say?

  • A Man From Jena

    some people really need to go and check their facts before they speak on shit that they do not really understand.

  • Father Figure

    “First off, using Jimmy Carter as a reference for anything is a bad look, especially since he’s considered one of the worst presidents in American history and didn’t last more than one term.”

    Boy, when you turn on the ignorance faucet, the garbage really comes out, doesn’t it? The “people” who dislike Jimmy Carter are conservatives, and radical anti-Palestinians. He was a wonderful President for the poor and the middle classes; he wasn’t so great for the rich, so I guess he was anti-American.

    “Second, is it me or did Palestinians just not elect Hamas to power? They vote for their own leaders, control their own government, create their own curriculum in schools, control their own schools, have their own television networks, businesses, etc.”

    Yes, Hamas ran on a platform of taking down the roadblocks that are situated throughout Palestinian territory. Their secondary issue was disallowing the settlements that criss-cross across their territory. The Palestinians were pretty foolish to erect those roadblocks and foreign-dominated settlements in the first place. Silly Palestinians!

    “The issue is that they use the control that they do have for negative actions like terrorism and extremism, which only makes their situation worse.”

    Your wife’s constant back talk to you (like asking to get a job! The nerve!) only make her situation worse. She should do more constructive things, like trying to find creative ways to justify your marriage, and new ways to please you.

  • http://xxlmag.com Kane Corleone

    That shit only happens down south,white boys north,east,midwest,westcoast know waaaaayyyyy better than to even think of trying shit like that,Fuck that punk ass DA,”end your life with a stroke of a pen”,eat a dick,in other parts of this racist ass country we wish,we wish a muthafucca woouullldd try some shit like that!! Free Jena 6,Let Osama go there and blow they shit up.

  • eTHUG

    bol aka bol shit is a warrior for gay (yes homo)you bitch ass 1st hoes im callin LAST

  • T.R.E.Y.

    nah, Carter being an awful president is pretty much a fact.

    or since we’re on a hip-hop site, a wack president. a true disgrace to the name of Shawn and Dwayne Carter.

  • OG

    Where’s Skinhead Bob when you need em??? Haha!!! What???

  • maxwell

    Bol, I thought you were black. I apologize for assuming that the picture shown above your column was your picture. Honestly, how can you even begin to defend this blatant act of racism? Firstly, the white kids jumped two of the black kids and the attack on the white kid was retaliation for that act. Secondly, no charges are being filed on the white kids. Thirdly,no matter what, you should realize that you are a black man before anything else. The rest is just a label. Unbiased journalist; label. Rational thinker; label. Uncle Tom; label. You were born black and will die black, no matter how much you nay wish otherwise.
    Oh yeah, Israel is not a democracy. It is the same thing America is, a republic. Recite the pledge of allegiance to yourself,” And to the republic for which it stands,…..”. A republic founded for the Jewish people in 1948. It was formed by a UN charter and established through the same practice as the US. They took away the brown peoples’ land,Palestinians owned that land and had it taken away from them by Europeans. All so that Western nations would have a foothold in the volatile and oil-rich Middle East.
    The Middle East has been a thorn in the side of Western Civilizaton for over a millenium. Why? Is it filled with individuals who repeatedly try to conquer and take the lands of other peoples? No. Because other peoples (Europeans) keep trying to take their land. Tell you what Bol. Keep sucking off White America until they skeet in your face, please. You and people like you are the reason why some people call theirselves niggers are dumb. He’s right, black people are some of the most creative and intelligent people on Earth. But, niggers like you are just plain dumb. I can’t wait till you get shot over some bullshit ,while, you keep it REAL!!

  • Da Ryder

    Bol! U ARE the TRUTH!!!!!!!
    TPAR is the REAL MCCARTNEY, u cant put a lid on the truth…
    Islam is a warm and friendly religion, but no other religion has so many fucked up followers..People using their religion to fuck things up. FUCK THAT!!!
    Bol- keep speaking the trurh, the world deserves it!!!!

  • kritiq

    rac·ism –> belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    why do people allow to be lied too like little kids can’t people think for themselves without having to belive all that propaganda bullshit in the media?.

    why should Americans care about whats is happening in the middle east with enough problems in their own backyards?. why are Americans so kean to solve world problems when there is enough problems in America?.The corruption in the U.S.A may be the worst in the world but it’s hardly talked about simply beacuse a majority of white people are wealthy and happy.

    if you think racism does not exist in this country than I seriously suggest you lay off that fox news,cnn and all that bullshit media because you need a reality check.

    How ever America tries to bury it’s dirt under the rag the truth will eventually come out.

    to all those critising mos def I say eat a dick and you are just a dumb ass.I give props to mos def for diverging the issue right back to American backyard and pointing out how really America is not such a free country and there are people who are still under oppression
    that was a very good tactic on he’s side.

    America should start by cleaning it’s own backyard before they try and solve other people’s problems start with these racist cracka’s calling themselves patriot’s.

    free jena six

  • Around and Around

    Da Ryder Says:

    September 12th, 2007 at 2:57 am
    Bol! U ARE the TRUTH!!!!!!!
    TPAR is the REAL MCCARTNEY,
    ———————-
    Ha! This is the type of person who is riding with you Bol!??!?! ‘The real mccartney’ TPAR you down with Paul

  • Around and Around

    Mr. Zionist says,
    is it me or did Palestinians just not elect Hamas to power? They vote for their own leaders, control their own government, create their own curriculum in schools, control their own schools, have their own television networks, businesses, etc. Tell me that one of these things is not true
    ———
    And what was Israel’s (Formerly Known as Palestine) response? Orchistrate a campaign from the EU to the US to not even attempt to work to the Hamas Gov’t, withhold their taxes needed to pay workers, and basically place an embargo on the people. And this is the DEMOCRACY your racist bigot ass speaks of? Israel=real terrorist

  • Da Ryder

    Around n around=white boy zitty Geek, sits around with no life, just blow up doll and a laptop, jumping on everything= TPAR STAN, Go fuck yourself u lowlife faggot REDNECK!!!!!!!!

    MaCarthy, my bad…

  • Around and Around

    Yeah all that Mccartnism is killing these days isn’t it DA Ryder? The Beatles running wild….You did that shit on purpose ‘DA’ youngin

    Truth about crazy religious zealots, they’re in every religion, Catholics got child molesters, Babtist got people cheering on war and killing in the middle east thinking it’s going to bring back the messiah, hell Jewish people now seem to even have neo-Nazi’s, point being they’re all a very small minority and don’t characterize the religion, that is unless you’re a ignorant closet dick ‘DA’ ryder.

  • SUPREME BLACKMAN

    BOL YOU ARE STILL FULL OF YOUR OWN SHIT AND THAT’S A LOT OF SHIT TO FILL YOUR FAT ASS WITH.

    CRACKA ASS CRACKA WANNA BE

  • LowEndofDaChi

    These boards need to institute a brief competency assessment before allowing some people to post their senseless drivel. Aruge w/intelligence as some people have done here so far. If I see one more “oh you must be a nerdy cracka”, “you masturbate in your mother’s basement”, or “you’re flaming and like inserting objects in your ass” comment I may be tempted to throw up.

  • CINCINNATI BITCHES

    free the jena 6.

    where the fuck is Al Sharpton??? gettin a perm, chasin ambulances???

  • Content

    If you want to argue political, moral, and humanitarian issues go to CNN.com. Last time I checked this is a hip-hop website.

    XXL.com,

    WTF, and you wonder why the amount of views have been going down.

  • NOLA

    Why is every1 getting on Al Sharptons case?? How about u look it up! He is also apart of a group that is going down there. As well as plenty more celebs such as Steve Harvey, Micheal basiden, radio personalities (setting up bus rides), etc.

  • Around and Around

    Mole Says:

    September 11th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
    around and around, STFU. you do not know arabs, do not talk about arabs being fucked aboutl. i grew up in dubai,
    ———-
    Mole definition: A mole is a spy who works for an enemy nation, often within local government. Much like “Mole,” the slang term “Fink” originated in the 1920s, to describe a spy or an informer.

    -Anyone using the term Mole is a snitch ass cracka, and if you truely did ‘grow’ up in Dubai, you’d know it’s common knowledge that those Gulf Arabs are elitest and fucked, and you’d also know that Emaritis make up 20% of the population which mean there are a lot of other people there taking advantage of the subcontinent cheap labor. And if you did ‘grow up’ there I’m sure you and your bitch ass family also had their servants and drivers. But you probably didn’t because you a mole and you grew up in Colby, Kansas or some shit, and are currently trying out for the remake of the move White Boyz….

  • Moe Real

    I like the new UGK album. Not as great as everyone says tho.

  • krb

    you need to know the history of the CIA when they was called the OSS which means the OVERSEAS SECERT SERVICE! then you’ll get an understandin about how much of a bully our goverment is! and then you will understand why people like mos def will say what they say! so read boi and get an understandin bro!

  • Black Genius

    9/11 and the Jenna 6 are no where near the same issue.They should have killed that redneck cause they gettin time like they did anyway.

  • Tyler

    BoL, take an hour out of your life and check out LooseChange 9/11 bro. U sound like a caveman when U speak about this issue so U need 2 be brought into the light.
    SolutionsGlobalMedia.com aka SGM7.com
    Love it or Hate it, Tell a Friend.

  • http://www.myspace.com/ga420 Cornell South

    What are you sayin’? That “Mos Def even goes them one further in that he almost seems to be aligning himself with the terrorists.” Who gives a seconds notice to what Mos is doing? How many other “rappers” (if that’s what you’re tryin’ to call him) are involved in anything political? Most (not MOS) are upholding the public perception of black ignorance through this thing they call “rap”.

    I see no mention of when Mos got locked up in NY for attempting to perform “Katrina Clap” as a sort of political protest. Most (not MOS) are arrested for violence, drug, or gun possession during or after their performances. Does this mean Mos has received “equal” treatment as a”rapper”?

    What are you “just saying”? It reads as if you have some ulterior motive for this particular rant about the appearance (and fall out) on the Bill Mauher joint. Come on, are you really that outraged? What have you done significant about any of the issues you seem so concerned about? The Jena 6? This country’s mentality toward poor people and its’ subsequent methods of “civilization” are rooted in violence. Obviously that is the only language these savages understand. Martin stood for non-violence because he knew that there had to be another way, but they shot him from a distance. Malcolm stood for what they told him, until he found out there was more to believe in, then they shot him from up close. Tupac shoot for more than he was willing to rap about (with consistency), yet they shot him to. Christopher Wallace stood for his daughter, and they shot him with no “political” agenda. Yet, the hip-hop police were trailing him and his “mafia” but didn’t see (or report) a thing.

    How is it one of the only active “consious rappers” gets so much salt. With the execption of “Get Ya Hustle On” by Juve, “Katrina Clap” was basically the only real “rap” song to address the issue. Whatever their motivations were, Dr. West and Mr. Def accepted the call to come on to the show, and stood for something. What did Mr. Giles do on Bill O’ Riley besides act ignorant? Dame did his best to clean up, but O’ Riley has his own agenda to uphold.

    Mauhr, does comedy (sort of). I mean, seriously (Bigfoot?) is it possible that both are monsters created to control the population through fear? (I’m just sayin’) Maybe the reall issue is the creation of a false climate in which you feel justified having personified Willie Lynch and nullify the ignorance rampart in our community?

    I guess nobody told you that Christianity was also founded on some bullshit. The root of the word religion is “religio” which basicallly means “to divide” in Greek or something. Any “religion” that professes that there is One creator of all men, yet can take anothers’ life for having a different culture is hypocritical.

    “Do you fools listen to music, or do you just skip through it” Goto ohhla.com or youtube.com and look up “The Nature of the Threat” by RAS KASS and learn about what REAL HIP-HOP can do. Then respond. If you can’t take 4:20 to learn something, don’t retort, or I might burn somethin’…
    -Cornell South

  • Ryan

    kritiq Says:

    September 12th, 2007 at 6:49 am
    rac·ism –> belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others

    ^^^^
    It’s funny that you, of all people would post this. You, LOL and Purple Hulk are examples of biggotry and racism.

  • Around and Around

    Cornell South nice boast brother.

  • Mega

    “bigoted fucks attempting to wield an ideology that’s based on intolerance and is ultimately founded in bullshit (i.e. Islam and white supremacy).” I don’t think you can include Islam as an ideology in the same vein as white supremacy.

    Also, in response to the Jena 6 situation it is no where near similar to 9/11. That should be kept as it’s own issue. Terrorism on behalf of whites towards blacks with no type of government intervention has always been an issue in America. The Jena 6 incident was a result of a continued lack of justice resulting in the frustrated subjects of injustice to lash out. After all, there was a black student jumped by whites and they are not on trial. The ridicule of this black student by a white student using racial taunts and slurs is what facilitated the other fight. Basically it is a bunch of backwoods white boys thinking that intimidation, racism, and violence is cool. Then when one of them is subject to that same type of violence their racist world is shattered. When the oppressed people fight back is when it becomes a problem that requires serious legal action. Basically I am glad that they whooped that white boys ass, and all of the attention that it has received. True niggers are ignorant, and all these so called black people who say that racism is dead are the real niggers. Ignorant and living in a dream world. The truth is that the fight for injustice is still real, and I am glad that “By any means necessary” someone stood up for our people. Now it is up to us to support them, and let it be known that justice must be applied equally to all people. That no longer will we sit by and let these racist machinations continue. This is a wake up call… Stop sleeping and being niggers, wake up and get your shit together. Know that your enemy never sleeps and has changed very little. The battle is the same, the tactics have just changed.

  • LowEndofDaChi

    Nature of the threat is one of the most important songs in Hip Hop to date. Great comment Mr. South.

  • The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE

    Thank you Bol for your ignorance. IT is b/c of your ignorance that all was shared in this thought provoking and inspiring comment section. I now know that I am not alone and not all people are zoombies slaving for the beast/machine. See truth and the spirit shall guide you. Let go of your worldly views and perceptions. Look within for answers not the news. WAKE UP!!!!!!!

  • kritiq

    @ Ryan is that all you see in my posts?,for your information I did not have to wait for the jena six incident to see the seriousness of the racist situation in the U.S.A.

    The only reason you are trying to label me as a racist is because I was one of the few who tried to bring this situation to light while you Around and all those ignorant fucks tried to ignore the racist shit that goes on in the real world,go back and re-read my post you will see clearly that this is the sort of shit that I was trieng to point out, the only reason I started to use those racial slurs is because many of the white readers started to post igorant shit which got into my nerves.

    Ryan you and other morons in this post do not even see the seriousness of this situation yet you are in a hiphop website,trieng to point fingers.I do not even know what are you views on this situation for all I know isyou might be siding with them judges so what gives you the right to try and point me out as a racist?.

    stop pointing fingers and wake up

  • gnixs

    Why is it that ignorant ass niggas (not black people) always have a venue to express their ignorant ass views. This is some shit you should have kept to yourself.

  • Real Talk not from Bol

    Bol needs to do more research from what you wrote you must work part time at the New York Times

  • Jimmy Jump

    BOL – YOU REALLY ARE A PIECE OF SHIT!!! I agree with DJ N-Credible & Supreme BlackMan.

    Bol says – this drive to free the Jena Six, as if they’re not guilty of beating a kid unconscious and then beating him some more. I’m not saying we’re in the wrong for taking up the cause of the Jena Six. I’m just saying.

    What are you saying??? The same kid went to a party that same evening! Then he tries to cover his ass with this…

    Bol says – I would go back into the post and highlight the parts where I said the railroading of the Jena Six was racist and wrong, for the NBreds of the world, but since when has what I actually said in the post ever been the issue?

    I no longer read your post but, I was forced to when I saw that you mentioned the Jena 6. Nothing has changed you Jackass!!

  • Frank

    brother, you need to go back and do some research on your own about the jena six case as well as the history of islam and organized religion for that matter. You are spouting some BS.

  • Neil

    Mos Def isnt siding with terrorist. He is simply stating the facts. If youve done any extensive research on 9/11 you would know that our government is responsible for what happened, Thus the Patriot Act comes into play. You are the exact kind of misguided journalist that convinces people to keep giving more power to the Executive branch. And how the hell did you become a journalist for XXL. Arent you guys supposed to be liberal. Well anyway do some more studying. Quit slandering Mos for speaking the truth. And if you happen to be black, Nigga quit being a voice for white people. I cant stand House Boys. Get Free!!!!!!