Enough with the back-slapping already

So Kanye West and Fiddy Cent sold a shiteload of albums last week. Whoopty frickin’ do. Unfortunately, this news is coming at a time in which several other developments suggest that hip-hop might really be on a permanent downward swing, regardless of a few TIs big payday this month.

First of all, I wouldn’t know, because why the fuck would I be watching BET, but I’ve heard that Rap City has been pushed all the way back to 1:00 in the morning.

Now, I can’t claim to have seen an episode of Rap City since way back in the days when Joe Clair and that fat woman who was in the Grand Puba video hosted it. I spent most of this decade living in the kind of town that doesn’t even get BET, and I hadn’t been watching it for a while before that. But this can’t possibly bode well for hip-hop, can it?

You have to think that Rap City was still an important venue for promoting rap music, since as recently as a week ago Fiddy was on there shilling for Curtis. Granted it probably won’t matter as much for the likes of Fiddy and Ye Toodles, since they can just go on TRL or 106 and Park or whatever, but what about the artists who aren’t quite on that Ye and Fiddy level, i.e. pretty much everyone else in hip-hop?

Which begs the question: why would BET move Rap City way back to 1:00 in the morning anyway? Is it that much less profitable than whatever they plan to run in its place. Obviously it would be hard to say, not being privy to their financial information, but let’s face it. Pretty much everything BET has come up with that doesn’t involve playing videos has been a complete and utter embarrassment.

In fact, you have to wonder what’s more of an embarrassment to the black race: the sight of some southerner with a mouth full of gold teeth waving a stack of money around in front of some grotesquely proportioned, half-dressed woman, or the fact that this is still the best thing the Ivy League diversity graduates who run BET have been able to come up with by a wide margin?

But enough about BET. I was also saddened to read, just now, that Scratch magazine will be going the way of the dodo bird (and, eventually, hip-hop itself) after next month’s issue with Fiddy and Timbaland on the cover.

Not that I ever read Scratch magazine myself, but again I wonder what the ultimate implication will be for hip-hop as a whole. And this one hits especially close to home, since Scratch was owned by the same TIs that own XXL. Hopefully, this won’t be a matter of, “First they came for the hip-hop purists,” if you catch my drift.

And I realize that the purist nature of Scratch is probably fairly debatable anyway. The buzz on the Internets is that it used to be really good, but then XXL took over and the whole thing went to shit. Though I’m sure the people over at Scratch would argue that they didn’t have any choice. They had to get paid, and how else are you going to get paid in the magazine business other than putting something sensational on the cover and hoping people are confused enough to reach for their wallets?

Finally, speaking of magazines and also the death of hip-hop, the cover of next month’s issue of XXL, with 12 guys who are supposed to be the next big thing in hip-hop, was leaked the other day. On the one hand, I suppose the good people at XXL deserve credit for not putting someone like Lil’ Wayne or Fiddy on the cover, even if it’s for no other reason than that they just couldn’t come up with an excuse for putting either of those two on the cover for the third time already this year.

On the other hand, if Lupe Fiasco and Rich Boy and Lil’ Boosie are the people we’re counting on to keep hip-hop alive now that Fiddy Cent is probably going to have to retire, then hip-hop really is in trouble. Nevermind Kanye and Fiddy selling a million and a half albums in a week, look at what we’re going to be left with once those two move on to become fashion designers or fake CEOs or whatever.

  • stoneyisland

    Bol, go kill yourself. You have become one lazy fat fuck. Your post are boring and childish not to mention down right silly. Go get a real job and move out of grandma’s basement, you fuck.

  • Fire

    Yeah, it’s bullshit that they got rid of Scratch and pushed Rap City back to 1 A.M. like it was some censored low budget porno infomercial. This Kanye vs. 50 thing was just a holdover, but hip hop does need to change in some way. Not necessarily by cleaning up lyrics, but having artists start to make good music again so the mainstream power of hip hop won’t be taken away.

  • whatever

    the thing that kills me is they be showin the wayans brothers reruns. i gotta believe that rap city gets higher ratings than that wack ass show.bet sucks and we should try do somethin to get rid of them because everything on that channel is garbage. they either showin soul plane or one of those wack friday movies on prime time.

  • Dollar Wells

    Hey Bol, I can read Nah Right and Breihan’s blog myself, nawwhaimeen?

    Post is lazy, dog …

  • Incilin

    Noz touched on this much better by noting that it’s the death of the marketablity of the hip hop head and not hip hop itself.

    That XXL cover is great and I love the fact that they went and did it. I can’t wait till 5 years from now when that cover is something to look back on. Now, it’s ture that Rich Boy & Lil Boosie should not be on that list (God knows how the hell they made it) but guys like Papoose, Saigon, Joell Ortiz, and Lupe (No matter how much you hate him) have real talent and might just come out with some great music in the near future. I don’t know enough about Gorilla Zoe, Piles, Young Dro, Crooked I to commment on them but you never know.

  • http://yahoo CaesarDuke

    I can tell u 2 reasons why they have rap city on at 1 o’ clock n da morning 1 people especially children are sleep at that time (school dayz) so they get less viewers so without viewers ur ratings go down and they have cut da show off from there program second reason in my opinion rap city only shows new music they don’t show old music like 106 n park does so without those new songs playing those rappers or singers don’t get heard by people so people can’t vote em in just my opinion

  • brebre

    GOOD STUFF, BOL. HIP-HOP AIN’T DEAD BUT THE MEDIA IS JUST ACTING LIKE IT’S DYING AND “WHITE PEOPLE” BUYING IT.

    AND YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT BET. HELL DATE? GHETTO MESS? IS THAT THE BEST THEY CAN DO? JUST RUN VIDEOS INSTEAD. WTF THEY MOVE RAP CITY TO 1AM? THE FUCK.

    ALL STUPID.

  • triplesixninja

    lil boosie is the coldest knicca in the rap game right now 4 the ones who know. and young dro is better than tip.

  • texasleen

    everyone always saying hip hop is dead or its gonna die or the future of hip hop is in trouble…old ass rappers just dont want to let go of the game they in a mid life hip hop crisis wooo

  • http://xxlmag.com new orleans 4-lfe

    soulja boy will save hip-hop!!!!

  • Fernando

    Not a bad post Bol.

    BET is the most embarrassing joke on TV. It has probably set black people back further than D4L, Crime Mob, and Hurrican Chris combined.

    Their news breaks have become nothing more than a 40 second blurb on “what excuse can we make for poverty this week” and “lets send Toccara to some crappy mall in Detroit so she can whore herself out and talk about affordable style for fat people”. Cousin Jeff is probably wondering what the hell happened to Tavis Smiley? How did he get dragged along into the abyss of embarassment that is BET?

    The College reality show / real world Rip-off looks like it is produced by a bunch of hack job community college interns, and 106th and park is probably the single most annoying show evar.

    Hip Hop is not dying though. There is plenty of good stuff to listen to if you take the time to find it. If you wait to get fed the next new artist like a baby bird waiting for its mother, then it probably looks pretty bad. BET is doing a dis-service to the world, and MTV is anything BUT music television.

  • texasleen

    wtf happend to Free…damn i miss her fine ass she need to come out naked already

  • Moe Real

    You mean Lil’ Boosie won’t save hip-hop?

    I’ve been lied to.

  • LowEndofDaChi

    Bol, regardless of the personal bias you may have against Lupe Fiasco, his skills and relevance to the new generation of hip hop culture are undeniable. Stop frontin man.

    RIP Scratch Magazine

    Can’t say the same for Rap City, though, as I stopped watching as it turned into a candy painted car show

  • Fire

    “Hip Hop is not dying though. There is plenty of good stuff to listen to if you take the time to find it. If you wait to get fed the next new artist like a baby bird waiting for its mother, then it probably looks pretty bad. BET is doing a dis-service to the world, and MTV is anything BUT music television.”

    “wtf happend to Free…damn i miss her fine ass she need to come out naked already”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Co-sign both comments. BET and MTV aren’t shit musically, and Free is fine! What happened to her?

  • Hov

    Bol you have got to be the biggest hater known to man. All you do is hate. Fake CEO’s? I knew you was coming at Jay-Z with that one because all you do is hate. I can agree with you about the state hip hop is in but damn dude! Are you upset that they got the job you wanted? Are you mad because they fuck chicks that your fat ass will never have? WHY THE FUCK DOESN’T XXL FIRE YOU!!!

  • Worley

    Rap City always had the worst hosts: Chris Thomas, Joe Clair, Prince Dejour, that little chipmunk dreadlock kid, Q45, Mad Linx, etc. N*ggas need to go find Fab 5 Freddy, give him 10 mil and have him conceive a show.

    106 and Park is straight trash. It’s like they only play videos in between commercials. Terrence and Rocsi are definitely two annoying pre adult looking suburb n*ggas.

    Kill all those coon show reruns if you gonna kill anything. Bring back UnCut.

  • texasleen

    id fuck rocsi no matter how dumb she is they should get rid of terrance and put Free there we’d have a older women and a young’n

  • Romare Basquiat

    Can anyone explain to me how this guy got this blog… So let me understand this, “Toilet” Bol’s spin on Kanye and Fif’s outstanding first week numbers is that the game is in the dumps and the key indicator being the fact that Rap City has been moved to 1am (est)…? We’re talking about a show which hasn’t had a credible host since Big Tigger… A show who’s current host is so utterly horrid he makes Prince DaJour look as skilled & distinguished as Charlie Rose (quite a feat)… Quite frankly Rap City should have been cancelled a number of years ago or at the very least totally revamped… The fact of the matter is many of you were made to believe the market was far too depleted to withstand two enormous debuts (within the same genre no less) during the same 6 day sells cycle… In fact Ye’, 50, & UMG proved these “so called” experts wrong… They shared the market and put up impressive numbers… Not to mention outselling one of country music’s biggest stars, easily… The correct spin on this story should be that indeed the marketplace has declined considerably since the late 90′s early 2000 “gilded era” but there are still extremely viable artists within hip-hop culture. Contrary to the onslot of negative press (this includes you “Toilet” Bol) and objectors Hip-Hop is still the number #1 vehicle that moves pop culture… Thus the reason haters, hate! Chesney never stood a chance!!!!!

  • BIZZLE

    BET IS NOW TRYING TO KILL HIP HOP…1AM ARE THESE PEOPLE SERIOUS? AND YES BRING BACK UNCUT.FUCK BET!

  • these posts are racist

    Lupe Fiasco, is one of the greatest emcees ever. His music, lyrics and flow is amazing.

    You’re hatred of him is just basless and certainly not based on any real criticism of his music.

  • Dan99

    You only hate Lupe Fiasco cause he called you a “bitch ass nigga”

  • Fernando

    Hot drop top, top drop hot, hoes drop it like its hot, yeah n!gga im the Sh!t !!! – Webbie

    Those are some cold a$$ lyrics right there!

    Rocsi could get it though. Her face looks busted sometimes but her frame is tight! Terrance looks like a B2K reject.

  • Jax

    LOL. yeah, unfortunately you may be right. i didn’t think the coalition of a few old, irrelevant civil rights era white apologist blacks could turn the tide so significantly. Maybe its the sign o the times. I’m ready for black rock. Van Hunt, Cody Chesnutt, Martin Luther etc. But what would that incarnation of XXL be called given said New Negro’s predilection for T-shirts of the Smedium variety?

    Riddle me that Master Bol

  • http://DDupointdos.state.fl.us Ghost of 2Pac

    What it is with the situation. Is that rap city could be headed for a cancellation. Could be. If yall remember uncut videos @ 3 in the morn. Its off the air. What the office trying to do is stop the viewers of watching, so they can wipe it off the program. When I was a live. I said” We need to come to together” ” And start our own nation!” If we ain’t going to work together, Stop with the bullshit!! Keepin’ it real!! And watching from above!
    PAC-

  • wab

    “In fact, you have to wonder what’s more of an embarrassment to the black race: the sight of some southerner with a mouth full of gold teeth waving a stack of money around in front of some grotesquely proportioned, half-dressed woman, or the fact that this is still the best thing the Ivy League diversity graduates who run BET have been able to come up with by a wide margin?”

  • the real N.O. 4 life

    i dont have any reason to watch bet ever now…why the hell they gonna do it 1′oclock…
    im already gettin in trouble for sleepin in class…and guess whats in the time slot BET Now and the 5ive…Rap city was straight especially before i had the net…i watched the other day and it played real rap, talib joel ortiz plus a few club bangers…it had balance (too many commercials though)…now the only rap i get to here is on the nets….what about the children?

  • Ace

    BET’s been culturally irrelevant for years. It has to be approaching a decade of futility. Even Video Hits One redeemed itself, albeit on the backs of broads embarrassing the shit out of themselves on national television and ironically themed nostalgia shows.

    BET moving rap city is just another move to show that they are trying to alienate the urban core that actually watched the channel and replacing it with bullshit buppy programming. I definitely now have no intentions of ever watching the channel again.

  • cHocolate Rain

    Hip Hop is dead…time for a new genre

  • Cuban Link

    Im thinking the opposite.I think that 50 and Kanye cuttin up the white boy is a good sign for hip hop.Now that we’re fucking with the great white hope for the industry called “Country Music” people will see that hip hop is dieing as fast as theyd hope.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=13898 WritersBlock

    lupe, rich boy, and lil boosie in the same sentence…..tell me which one doesnt belong

  • these posts are racist

    “lupe, rich boy, and lil boosie in the same sentence…..tell me which one doesnt belong”

    Clearly, Lupe Fiasco. BOL, have you actually listened to his music? His new “Dumb it Down”? Any of his freestyles on mixtapes? Any of his official tracks?

    You were and are so wrong to dismiss him, based on your own bigoted agenda.

  • DANJA29

    I feel like Rap City has degenerated to a hot garbage show, BUT it deserves much better than this, given its history and its importance to BET’s history. Even if the plan is to kill the show off (and it appears that IS the plan), they coulda given it a better send-off than this.

    The shit that’s replacing it is a regular block of videos, which has been moved from its normal spot. What’s the show that’s being put in the video block’s place? FUCKIN’ COMICVIEW. That right there shows you how much BET (and Viacom) gives a fuck about Rap City. Hip-hop is gettin’ dicked somethin’ serious by BET right now.

  • http://blackmenvent.com professionlism

    Hip-hop is not just another form of pop music. Real hip-hop has been killed by sellout artist and the senseless masses who will buy/listen to anything that has “fem” appeal.
    The only music that gets media attention today is club music (which all sounds the same) which is designed to appeal to females and females only.
    No more lyrics, no more talent, no more dejayin, no more meaning. Just “club bangers” which are designed to get the broads’ attention.
    “I don’t knoe what dey be sayin but I likes me a hot beat!”

    All forms of music have merged into one big mess of “Pop culture” whimsical nonesense. To become a artist or entertainer these days only requires that you have a crew, backup dancers, and a club beat that has been used, reused, and abused.

    Today’s music is the very reason why we should have never stop supporting the arts in public schools.

    I’d rather listen to squirrels fuck than turn on my radio.

  • THESE POSTS ARE RACIST

    I like Lupe Fiasco because he is a Muslim. Since I would like to be in a romantic relationship with Lupe, I was very happy to see him on the cover of XXL. I will cut it out and hang it above my bed, next to my other boy crushes, who are all terrorists = muslims.
    I dislike this site so much bit for some odd reason, I come back everyday, to spread a big verbal shitload to make sure the Muslim anti american agenda is promoted.
    Yes, I have been left alone in life too much but that would at least explain my hatred for everything American.
    I have found my purpose in antagonizing Bol on this blog because this will lead finally to digital jihad and maybe some e-virgins will come along and say hello.
    Not that this works, it should be male virgin, hey.
    I like to ognore that homosexuality is punishable by death in Islam, but hey, I can pick what I want, right while I have my finger UP MY ASS.

  • the real N.O. 4 life

    TPAR why are you always complaining about something that bol says…and lupe is not the savior of hip hop he about to quit and hip hop is still gonna be here(i got his cd) but get off his nuts….and boosie and lupe aint that different they are just a depection of their upbringing…also known as hip hop

  • Rizzop

    The sad part is none of these dickhead kids that come on here notice what is happening to the very culture they live in. Rap city was bascially ALL hip hop had on the airwaves since yo MTV raps and this will basically force you to have on demand/internet service to see whats going on in young black folks world. We should be more outraged that BET is going to show Hell date more than actual black entertainment…..Its our iwn fault though, we sold it to the cracka ass crackas

  • Tyler

    Great post BoL, all great points.
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  • ThingAlec

    I totally agree about that new XXL cover. Why not put Wu Tang on there topromote 8 Diagrams. Or Talib Kweli who ended up selling more albums that Swizz Beatz. YN should be fired.

  • clarknova

    TPAR, I gotta ask: why on earth would you say that Lupe is one of the greatest emcees ever? Based on his one record? “Kick, Push” etc? What am I missing that puts him in a league with Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G. Rap, Jay, Nas, etc? And you can’t use his religion or his politics, I’m talking about skills.

  • these posts are racist

    Clarknova,

    I would never use religion or politics alone to define a great emcee. Lupe is up there with all the people you mention. He’s younger and hasn’t been in the game as long, but “right now” he is one of the few greatest emcees in the game. Of course to be considered a great like Rakim, you and your rhymes have to stand the test of time, and by definition, only time will tell if Lupe will be a “legend” on par with all those you mention.

    But as far as “who got now”, Lupe is hot. If the only Lupe track you’ve listened to is “kick push”, then I highly recommend you search out more tracks from this brother, he is an amazing lyricst, his flows; the rhythm and content are flawless.

    When it comes to substance, i say he beats Jay and Nas, hands down. When it comes to flow, he’s on the same level as Rakim and Jay. The only thing Lupe doesn’t do and the reason he’s not as famous as jay-z is he “Flattely refuses to Dumb it Down”.

  • Jason Murk

    Fuck Rap City. That show has been wack for years. Bet needs to BRING BACK UNCUT. And when they bring it back, they shouldn’t show any videos by artists with major deals.

    Uncut was like a pornographic, rap version of american idol.

    You get entertained by the good, unknown performers who really should be stars. I think The Lil Jon “bia bia” video actually started off on Uncut.

    You laugh at all the weak ass rappers and their shitty songs. Like “The Bailbondsman” and his classic “Let me see that ass drop.” And who can forget “Black Jesus” and his masterpiece “What that thang smell like.”

    But the greatest thing about Uncut is that there was ass & titties everywhere.

    Yes, Uncut may be the greatest show ever. Nelly and those super feminist lesbians from Spellman University fucked it up for us all.

  • Bang

    They trying to really control the shit, its not even hidden. 106 rap and shit will be the only thing an artist could shoot for in terms of any exposure. Game got wack, and it’s not that much different. Now the commercial part of Hip Hop can die slowly in peace -

    In a few months when Rap City gets taken off the air completely, since no one will watch that shit

  • T.R.E.Y.

    Kanye flows better than Lupe.

  • Fire

    TPAR,
    I like how you promote what you believe in and don’t take crap from anyone else, but this statement is without a doubt ridiculous.

    “When it comes to substance, i say he beats Jay and Nas, hands down. When it comes to flow, he’s on the same level as Rakim and Jay.”

    Are you serious? I mean, I like Lupe Fiasco, but he can’t touch any of those MCs as far as talent. That doesn’t mean he isn’t good (his lyrics when on point are fire), just not near as good as the people you mentioned.

  • clarknova

    TPAR, thanks for clarifying “in the game right now” in regards to Lupe. I actually have heard the whole Lupe record, as well as many of his guest shots etc and while he’s a good emcee I never thought he was anything special. I would argue that Nas over the course of his career has quite a bit of substance and meaning in his music, by the way. We all have our favorites for various reasons and only time will tell if they are “the greatest.” For my part, Lupe doesn’t hold a candle to guys like Ghostface, Biggie, Outkast (the list goes on)….yet. Also, his idiotic “beef” with Bol really turned me off of him. But this is just me.

  • BirdsFlySouth

    There’s no reason to watch rap city any more b/c all the freestyles are on youtube now. So why bother watching all the other crap?

  • MEMPHIS TN

    WELL AT LEAST I GOT TO SEE CASSIDY RIP THE BOOTH THE OTHER DAY. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND THAT?

    HIP HOP IS DYING!!!

  • Ryan

    I loved the rap city episode where Ghostface and Rae were on it, and they were being asked what was in the briefcase and didn’t want to respond. They kept telling Tigger or Joe Clair (I forget who was hosting) “nah, don’t worry about that”. He kept pressing them and all you see is a hostile look on Rae and Ghost’s faces and an instant cut to a commercial break. Rap City sucks now, the videos are garbage……

  • Nadeem

    Nas said it “hip-hop been dead we da reason it died”

  • Fernando

    TPAR is a loser.

    If he thinks Lupe is even in the top 50 emcees right now, he is a damn fool. That guy is SUPER -AVERAGE. Thats about it.

  • http://www.xxlmag.com/?p=13898 WritersBlock

    Fire Says:

    September 19th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
    TPAR,
    I like how you promote what you believe in and don’t take crap from anyone else, but this statement is without a doubt ridiculous.

    “When it comes to substance, i say he beats Jay and Nas, hands down. When it comes to flow, he’s on the same level as Rakim and Jay.”

    Are you serious? I mean, I like Lupe Fiasco, but he can’t touch any of those MCs as far as talent. That doesn’t mean he isn’t good (his lyrics when on point are fire), just not near as good as the people you mentioned.

    —————————————–

    then you dont understand what hes saying…content and lyrics wise, lupe has passed jay and nas of today.

  • Gutta

    Cut the BS already man, You are gettin corny, well i guess you always were corny but now you are not hiding it as well these days…step it up…(just some friendly words of advice.

  • Fire aka LOL Silencer

    WritersBlock,
    I definitely understand what he’s saying. I like intelligent music that challenges people. With that said, Lupe is nowhere near as good as Nas, Jay (pre Kingdom Come), or Rakim, though he has good lyrics at times. Don’t assume things you don’t know.